brocab:
If you believe Christ is God's master worker, then how come you refuse to believe in {John 1:1}?

1. Good to know you accept that jesus is God's master worker.
2. Did I ever tell you or say that I do not believe John 1:1?, brocab stop making false accusations ok!

It really shows you have not understood Paul's statement, Paul didn't say Jesus was created-He said Jesus was the first born of all creation {Colossians 1:15-21}
So allow me to correct your statement "The first born of all creation.
I will start by saying-Christ relationship to His Father begins with the phase "the Image of the invisible God" The word image" meaning, copy or likeness,expresses Christ deity, This word involves more than a resemblance, more than a representation. He is God, although He took on human form, He has the exact nature of His Father {Hebrews 1:3}

1. you yourself read that he is the image of the invisible God, common sense should tell you that jesus is not that invisible God, your image is a reflection of you, your image is not you.
2. I'll give you an example about image from the scriptures below
Ge 5:3Adam lived for 130 years and then became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and he named him Seth.

Did you read that verse, do you see it that seth is the image of Adam? Look at the following facts
1. seth is the image of Adam
2. seth is a human just like Adam
3. seth is not the same human as Adam
4. seth is not the same man as Adam
5. Adam and seth are both humans but not same human
6. Adam was not said to be seths image, why? cus Adam is before seth!

APPLY THIS FACTS ABOVE TO JESUS BEING THE IMAGE OF GOD AND COME TO A BETTER UNDERSTAND!

The word of {John 1:1} is a divine person, not a philosophical obstruction, in the incarnation, the invisible God became visible in Christ, deity was clothed in humanity {Matthew 17:2}

Are you saying that jesus and the invisible God are the same person?
moreover the scriptures never said it was the invisible God that became flesh, it was the word, who was with God , that became flesh.
The invisible God became visible?, how come, cus jesus himself said no one has seen God AT ANY TIME!
We know God sent someone, we know God did not send himself!, so the notion that the visible God became visible is a BIG LIE!, THE SCRIPTURES NEVER TAUGHT US THAT!

God is in Christ, Visible, audible, approachable, knowable, and available, All that God is, Christ is.

1. If God is in Christ, it automatically means that God is not Christ!
2. All that God is jesus is? BIG LIE, God cannot die, jesus died, God cannot be killed, jesus was killed.

The description "first born of all creation" speaks of Christ preexistence. He is not a creature, but a eternal creator {John 1:10} God created the World though Christ, and redeemed the world though Christ {Hebrews 1:2-4} Note that Jesus is called the first born-not the first created, the "Word first born" Greek word {"prototokos"} signifies prior.

1. God created the world through Christ it means that Christ and God are not the same person.
2. jesus was called firstborn of all creation, not just firstborn. This signifies that among those created, jesus was the first!, first to be created. God created jesus in the beggining!
King James Version
Re 3:14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God

3. Strong's Concordance

prototokos: first-born

Original Word: πρωτότοκος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: prototokos
Phonetic Spelling: (pro-tot-ok'-os)
Short Definition: first-born
Definition: first-born, eldest

4. The first born of a beast is a beast
the firstborn of man is a man
the firstborn of creation is a creation
you cannot be firstborn without BEING BORN!

In the culture of the Ancient Near East, the first born was not necessity the oldest child, first born referred not to order but to rank. The first born possessed the inheritance and leadership. Therefore the phase expresses Christ sovereignty over creation. After resurrecting Jesus from the dead, God gave authority over the earth {Matthew 28:18} Jesus created the world, saved the world, and rules the world, He is a self-existed knowledged head of creation. Finely the phase recognise Him as the Messiah, I will make Him {Christ} My first born, higher then the kings of the earth {Psalms 89:27} 6 times is declared to be the first born of God {Romans 8:29, Colossians 1:15, 18, Hebrews 1:6, 12:23, and Revelation 1:5} These passages declare the preexistence, the sovereignty and the redemption that Christ offers.
It's silly, for you to try explain the Telragrammaton without any providing evidence. Your say isn't good enough. I suppose you won't answer this one correctly either.
The name Jehovah is mixing different words and different alphabets of different languages.

1. Yes, the first born is not necessarily the oldest child, but the firstborn is a child!, a child of who he is the firstborn, he is firstborn cus he was born!
2. If it refers to rank , it revers to rank of those who where born!
3. Christ possessed the inheritance and leadership because God gave it to him, to bring all thing to himself, subject all, including jesus to himself!
4. since you cannot inherit what you already have, it shows that jesus is not God!
5. If God gave jesus authority over the earth, it means jesus is not the God who gave him authority!
6. No verse in the scriptures has ever jesus self existed, you always have to put a lot of man made theories that cannot be proven with the scriptures.
7. jesus has a head! his head is God, jesus is not the head of himself!
8. brocab, you refuse to tell us who made jesus his first born!
9. In that post, I made no mention of YHWH, Nor did I mention "jehovah". so stop trying to accuse me of explaining something I did not talk about in the post, if you want explanation, go to the post where I gave explanation of God's name.

note: it can be seen that you could not say anything about the fact that your one God is different from the one God of jesus and the disciples!

johnw74:


lie lie dolphinheart

amazing, all the same repeated lies over and over again that have been adressed
and what confusion, you should read your own posts
but you lie lie love to take after your god the father of lies and accusing
I of course don't waste time replying over and over again to your same repeated over and over again lies


you lie continually
you falsely accuse
and much more that is evil under the sun

you always deny it, which is just more lies from you lie lie
you are fully entrenched in lying.

don't deny it , further denial will only show your true character the more , I've provided you with date and time that you made a false accusation against dolphin heart, it has been proven to be false accusation, a Christian should apologise when shown his wrong ways.

Just a couple of recent examples of your lying accusing and confusion oh entrenched one

johnw74: "Jehovah doesn't mean God"

dolphinheart: "I never said Jehovah means the name of God!,"

If it's true that Johnw74 made that statement you ascribe to him, pls show us where by telling us the time and date such statement was made
secondly do you agree with such statement?, that jehovah does not mean God?
I'll like to know if Johnw74 truly made such statement( TIME AND DATE SO IT CAN BE CHECKED), and if you believe such statement.

Secondly, dolphinheart is right to say he never said those words, therefore Johnw74 accusation that he made that statement is false!
johnw74 accusation on Nov 6, 6:13 pm reads: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha" 
johnw74 accusation above have been proven to be false.

ha ha forever confused

then you added "pls pls stop lying against me!"

always the confused lie lie and false accuser



dolphinheart: PLS DO NOT DENY THAT JEHOVAH IS NOT THE NAME OF GOD, FOR YOU WILL BE WHAT THE PSALMIST PRAYED AGAINST!
Pr 30:9So that I do not become satisfied and deny you and say, “Who is Jehovah?” Nor let me become poor and steal and dishonor the name of my God.


ha ha, I will continue to deny that yahweh is not the name of God, because Yahweh is the name of God
or it is "a" name for God anyway

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36

Good that you accept that jehovah is the name of God, the God of jesus, the most high God, the one who jesus sits beside , the name of the one who exalted jesus, WHO JESUS IS SUBJECTED TO, THE HEAD AND GOD OF JESUS, THE ALMIGHTY GOD

johnw74:


bro, lying comes naturally to dolphinheart

the Word was not created

God and the Word is God, John 1:1
God is a Spirit, John 4:24
God and the Word(two persons)is that one same Spirit that is God


Wisdom-the word has always existed in God
before creation when all there was, was God, God bought forth the Word from Himself,
an exact image of Himself. That Eternal Spirit(God) became two persons.

The Word had a beginning as a seperate person to God,
but being that Eternal Spirit of God He had no beginning.

THE ONE SPIRIT THAT IS GOD BECAME TWO PERSONS

Pro 8:22  The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
 
"posessed" can mean make-create, God made the word who has always existed in God, a seperate person

Pro 8:23  I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

"setup" same as verse 22, poured out of God-made a seperate person
 
Pro 8:24  When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

"brought forth" God bought forth the Word out of Himself,
it's described in some ways similarly to a woman giving birth
I have to add for oh confused one: "God does not have a womans body".

bought forth
H2342
חִיל    חוּל
chûl    chı̂yl
khool, kheel
A primitive root; properly to twist or whirl (in a circular or spiral manner), that is, (specifically) to dance, to writhe in pain (especially of parturition) or fear; figuratively to wait, to pervert: - bear, (make to) bring forth, (make to) calve, dance, drive away, fall grievously (with pain), fear, form, great, grieve, (be) grievous, hope, look, make, be in pain, be much (sore) pained, rest, shake, shapen, (be) sorrow (-ful), stay, tarry, travail (with pain), tremble, trust, wait carefully (patiently), be wounded.
Total KJV occurrences: 58

also similarly, the Word-Jesus Christ was bought forth from Mary, as a man(flesh), and who is that Eternal Spirit(God).
 
Pro 8:25  Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 
Pro 8:26  While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 
Pro 8:27  When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 
Pro 8:28  When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 
Pro 8:29  When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 
Pro 8:30  Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 

I can imagine the joy of God(God and the word).
God was delighted, and the Word was rejoicing,
now being two identical persons sharing their joy and love.

Then God(God and the Word) created the Angels, the World, man etc, to further share His love with

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

unfortunately, I don't think brocab agrees that that verse is referring to jesus, let me help you ask him , BROCAB, ARE THE THE VERSES(PRO 8: 22-30) REFER ING TO JESUS?

johnw74:


No he isn't, but you very well maybe

I have showed you many of your lies and you cannot even see them, oh blinded one
you deny them, which is even more lies

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


your posts lie lie, are full of your lying and false accusations etc
they are full also of your denying previous lies and false accusations etc

ha ha talk about being fully entrenched in lies.

I asked you a simple question who is the god of this world, the Greek word for God in that verse is theos, up till now you refuse to answer!

solite3:
[ wat do u mean?

some statements found in your post when quoting you are mine, don't add my posts to your posts when responding!

what did i expect Jehovah says there are no other gods. So you dolphinheart are trying to prove Jehovah wrong? Smh

We will know if this is true after you have answered the questions about God being in the midst of God's , about Pauls statement of God's in heaven!

it is evident that you have been doldging questions and throwing baseless accusations

we will soon see if my accusations are baseless.

read very well i never mix your words with mine.

yes you do!

EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE OTHER STATEMENTS , YOUR POST ENDED HERE WHEN I QUOTED YOU, PLEASE GO AND EDIT THE POST SO THAT REMAINIG PARTS OF YOUR POST CAN BE SEEN WHEN ONE IS QUOTING YOU, AS IVE SAID , I TIRED OF DOING COPY AND PASTING YOUR POST SO AS TO BE ABLE TO REPLY YOU.
Please just take time and edit it okay, so I will be able to reply all you said!
Once again, pls edit it so that the remaining parts of your post can be visible for one to reply to!

Lets prove how wrong you are-I will ask you this question {John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.
Or {John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was a god.
Which of these have you denied from the past?
Read {Revelation 3:14} again, Jesus was there at the beginning of creation of God-He wasn't created by God.
Shame on you Dolphinheart because you don't believe in truth-and because you own bible doesn't produce any-you would rather twist the word of God, trying to sound right for you.
{Isaiah 9:6} For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the Government shall be upon His shoulder, and His NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, the everlasting Father, The Prince of peace.
Every verse, every scripture, and every Word that shows that Christ is God, I believe...
Haven't you heard-Fear not them that kill the body, but can not kill the soul, but rather fear Him, which is able to destroy both soul and body in Hell {Matthew 10:28}
I am saying I and the Father are One..
And the scriptures did teach us that, the invisible God became visible, can't you read, the Word was with God, and the word was God
And you are claiming you haven't denied {John 1:1} Hmmmm..
And a Son shall be born, and He shall be Called Immanual-meaning God with us.{Matthew 1:23}

dolphinheart:

1. Good to know you accept that jesus is God's master worker.
2. Did I ever tell you or say that I do not believe John 1:1?, brocab stop making false accusations ok!


1. you yourself read that he is the image of the invisible God, common sense should tell you that jesus is not that invisible God, your image is a reflection of you, your image is not you.
2. I'll give you an example about image from the scriptures below
Ge 5:3Adam lived for 130 years and then became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and he named him Seth.

Did you read that verse, do you see it that seth is the image of Adam? Look at the following facts
1. seth is the image of Adam
2. seth is a human just like Adam
3. seth is not the same human as Adam
4. seth is not the same man as Adam
5. Adam and seth are both humans but not same human
6. Adam was not said to be seths image, why? cus Adam is before seth!

APPLY THIS FACTS ABOVE TO JESUS BEING THE IMAGE OF GOD AND COME TO A BETTER UNDERSTAND!




Are you saying that jesus and the invisible God are the same person?
moreover the scriptures never said it was the invisible God that became flesh, it was the word, who was with God , that became flesh.
The invisible God became visible?, how come, cus jesus himself said no one has seen God AT ANY TIME!
We know God sent someone, we know God did not send himself!, so the notion that the visible God became visible is a BIG LIE!, THE SCRIPTURES NEVER TAUGHT US THAT!


1. If God is in Christ, it automatically means that God is not Christ!
2. All that God is jesus is? BIG LIE, God cannot die, jesus died, God cannot be killed, jesus was killed.


1. God created the world through Christ it means that Christ and God are not the same person.
2. jesus was called firstborn of all creation, not just firstborn. This signifies that among those created, jesus was the first!, first to be created. God created jesus in the beggining!
King James Version
Re 3:14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God

3. Strong's Concordance

prototokos: first-born

Original Word: πρωτότοκος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: prototokos
Phonetic Spelling: (pro-tot-ok'-os)
Short Definition: first-born
Definition: first-born, eldest

4. The first born of a beast is a beast
the firstborn of man is a man
the firstborn of creation is a creation
you cannot be firstborn without BEING BORN!


1. Yes, the first born is not necessarily the oldest child, but the firstborn is a child!, a child of who he is the firstborn, he is firstborn cus he was born!
2. If it refers to rank , it revers to rank of those who where born!
3. Christ possessed the inheritance and leadership because God gave it to him, to bring all thing to himself, subject all, including jesus to himself!
4. since you cannot inherit what you already have, it shows that jesus is not God!
5. If God gave jesus authority over the earth, it means jesus is not the God who gave him authority!
6. No verse in the scriptures has ever jesus self existed, you always have to put a lot of man made theories that cannot be proven with the scriptures.
7. jesus has a head! his head is God, jesus is not the head of himself!
8. brocab, you refuse to tell us who made jesus his first born!
9. In that post, I made no mention of YHWH, Nor did I mention "jehovah". so stop trying to accuse me of explaining something I did not talk about in the post, if you want explanation, go to the post where I gave explanation of God's name.

note: it can be seen that you could not say anything about the fact that your one God is different from the one God of jesus and the disciples!

STILL BLAMING OTHERS LIKE YOU DO WITH OTHER BIBLES.
Since you like playing the blame game so much-write your example {Rubbish} again.

dolphinheart:


again I repeat, an example was giving in that same post, but you removed it when quoting me!
It is a fact that you removed the example i gave when you quoted my post!

Your god is of this world..
Our God isn't from this world-haven't you read, what Jesus said: His Kingdom is not of this world. {John 18:36}

dolphinheart:


I asked you a simple question who is the god of this world, the Greek word for God in that verse is theos, up till now you refuse to answer!

As silly as you sound every time you quote, everything is always a problem to you.
Can't you read God said let US make man in Our own image-who was God talking too?
Who was Adam preferring too-when He said: he saw the Lord God walking in the Garden-how many People did Adam see?
And the scriptures tells us no-one has seen God at any time, so who did Adam hear and see?
{Proverbs 8:22-30} is above your mentality-the word is God {John 1:1}
{Genesis 1:1} At the beginning the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, and God said let there be Light.
{John 1:1} The word is God...

dolphinheart:


unfortunately, I don't think brocab agrees that that verse is referring to jesus, let me help you ask him , BROCAB, ARE THE THE VERSES(PRO 8: 22-30) REFER ING TO JESUS?

Peacefullove:


Am following you, and NL linked me with this post of yours

Me I want to ask sef : who exactly is the Almighty God ?

God Almighty is the creator of heaven and earth

brocab:
As silly as you sound every time you quote, everything is always a problem to you.

Oga, calm down ... Let's see your lies

Can't you read God said let US make man in Our own image-who was God talking too?

His master worker - Proverb 8:31

Meanwhile the verse identified God as the one speaking ... Not so? U need to tell me if its two people speaking as God in that scripture ?

Who was Adam preferring too-when He said: he saw the Lord God walking in the Garden-how many People did Adam see?

Liarrrrrr, Show me where the scripture said Adam saw God ?

And the scriptures tells us no-one has seen God at any time, so who did Adam see?
Who was at the beginning of time{John 8:58}

Oga , show us where Adam see God ?

Another Lair bites the dust, here is the Scripture-{Genesis 3:8} And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the Garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the Garden. Presence means, one or many.
If I was to stand in the presence of somebody openly he will see me, if I was to hide from them, I am either looking at them, or I know which direction he is coming from. Because I am feeling His presence. And with common sense-I can't be hiding if we are having along conversation with each other..
{Genesis 3:8-11}Not only was the Lord God in the garden, the devil was also in there too.
If the scriptures tell us no-one had seen God at anytime. Then who was it, that Adam hid himself from their presence.
{Genesis 8:22} The Lord God said the man has become like One of Us, to know good and evil. For a JW, you should have all the answers to this verse {One of Us?} First of all-He said let Us make man in our own image
Does this scripture ring a bell {John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God-and the word was God.
And the word is Jesus {John 1:14} But of course you wouldn't believe in such truth. "Dickhead" show me where in {Proverbs 8:31} it said the master builder? Not even your bible say's Jesus is the master builder?

Jozzy4:


Oga, calm down ... Let's see your lies



His master worker - Proverb 8:31

Meanwhile the verse identified God as the one speaking ... Not so? U need to tell me if its two people speaking as God in that scripture ?



Liarrrrrr, Show me where the scripture said Adam saw God ?




Oga , show us where Adam see God ?

dolphinheart:

some statements found in your post when quoting you are mine, don't add my posts to your posts when responding!


We will know if this is true after you [/b]have answered the questions about God being in the midst of God's , about Pauls statement of God's in heaven!


we will soon see if my accusations are baseless.

yes you do!

EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE OTHER STATEMENTS , YOUR POST ENDED HERE WHEN I QUOTED YOU, PLEASE GO AND EDIT THE POST SO THAT REMAINIG PARTS OF YOUR POST CAN BE SEEN WHEN ONE IS QUOTING YOU, AS IVE SAID , I TIRED OF DOING COPY AND PASTING YOUR POST SO AS TO BE ABLE TO REPLY YOU.
Please just take time and edit it okay, so I will be able to reply all you said!
Once again, pls edit it so that the remaining parts of your post can be visible for one to reply to!

@bold dolphinheart arguing with Jehovah.


Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: [b]before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.[/color]

Isaiah 43:12 [color=#990000]I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.



Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: [/b]I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for[b] I am God, and there is none else.


These are not my words but Jehovah's words yet false witnesses are arguing with him.

Christians are the true with witnesses because we hold the truth.
Only Jehovah is the true God all others are false the god of this world is a false god just a mere idol nothing more but false witnesses loves to call him God because he is their god.
Dolphinheart you are a wolf in sheepclothing deceiving the ignorant and simple.
Your father the devil is truly proud but know this that you will be destroyed with your god if you dont repent.

dolphinheart:


don't deny it , further denial will only show your true character the more , I've provided you with date and time that you made a false accusation against dolphin heart, it has been proven to be false accusation, a Christian should apologise when shown his wrong ways.



If it's true that Johnw74 made that statement you ascribe to him, pls show us where by telling us the time and date such statement was made
secondly do you agree with such statement?, that jehovah does not mean God?
I'll like to know if Johnw74 truly made such statement( TIME AND DATE SO IT CAN BE CHECKED), and if you believe such statement.

Secondly, dolphinheart is right to say he never said those words, therefore Johnw74 accusation that he made that statement is false!
johnw74 accusation on Nov 6, 6:13 pm reads: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha" 
johnw74 accusation above have been proven to be false.



Good that you accept that jehovah is the name of God, the God of jesus, the most high God, the one who jesus sits beside , the name of the one who exalted jesus, WHO JESUS IS SUBJECTED TO, THE HEAD AND GOD OF JESUS, THE ALMIGHTY GOD

lie lie dolphinheart

of course the same continued lies false accusations denials copycatting twisting etc etc
from you the great un ashameable lie lie himself

Yahweh means God, but I agree with you that your jehovah does not mean God

Yahweh is a name for God, but I agree with you that your jehovah is not a name for God


Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

dolphinheart:


unfortunately, I don't think brocab agrees that that verse is referring to jesus, let me help you ask him , BROCAB, ARE THE THE VERSES(PRO 8: 22-30) REFER ING TO JESUS?

lie lie dolphinheart

of course those verses are referring to Wisdom-the Word who became Jesus Christ
I told you that long long many moons ago lie lie
the only truths you know are those told you by Christians, most you don't believe

you are so un knowledgeable that you don't even know that the Word is God

an antichrist say's that the Word is "a god"
an antichrist says that "God and the Word is a two headed god"

referring to my God "God and the Word" you said lie lie dolphinheart

"your god is a two headed god"

John said God and the Word is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

such a pharisee blasphemer antichrist you are oh lying one

dolphinheart:


I asked you a simple question who is the god of this world, the Greek word for God in that verse is theos, up till now you refuse to answer!

lie lie dolphinheart

duh, have you just noticed that I don't answer most of your repeated confusion lies false accusations twisting etc etc

duh again, satan, your father, your god, is the god of this world

duh duh again, theos means god, satan is the god of this world,
does that clear up your confusion?


2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat 4:8  Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Mat 4:9  And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 

false jw dolphinheart thinks Yahweh is the god of this world

lie lie your god satan is the god of this world


God will become God of this World when Jesus Christ returns defeating satan and you his followers:

Rev_11:15  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Jozzy4:


Liarrrrrr, Show me where the scripture said Adam saw God ?

look at these bad mouthed accusers taking after their father, their god

satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36

and these bad mouths think they are jehovahs witnesses
well they are but they witness a false jehovah, a false jesus, and they witness everything that is false,
false doctrines, false prophecies, etc.

lie lie dolphinheart

it takes you lie lie a couple of days to think up all the lies to put
in your posts
and wow do you think up some

Facts people should know about false jw:

they preach that the Word is "a god"


the Word had a beginning only as a separate person to God
when there was nothing at all but God.

Having been always in God, the Word had no beginning.



John said: God and the Word is God, John 1:1
John said: God is a Spirit, John 4:24
God and the Word is that Eternal Spirit who is God.

Rev 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 

I know that false jw dolphinheart and jozzy and the likes, are just taking after their god
in falsely accusing the brethren-believers-Christians, day and night.

Facts people should know about false jw:

false jw say that God and the Word are two seperate god's
an almighty god, and a mighty god

Christians can plainly see that the terms almighty and mighty, when referring to God in the Bible, are referring to the one true God

God and the Word is God, not two god's as false jw preach


2Co 4:1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2Co 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

lie lie dolphinheart God's word talks of you again, you do all those things that Christians don't do
walk in dishonesty, craftiness, and deceitfully

and no lie lie, the god of this world is not Yahweh but satan

anangboy:
I have always been receptive to Jehovah Witnesses. They are one denomination i can always sense the sincerity of purpose and unalloyed zeal to preach thei[b]r faith. They are more about reaching souls than the growth rate of their church. [/b] And to me, they have the best thought-provoking publications, whether the topic is on Molecular Biology, Quantum Physics or Epistemology.

Their simplicity, yet delicateness, chides me of my own failings and strengthens my resolve to bridle my excesses. They are always welcome to my door.

@bolded, the preaching is about growth and increase.

brocab:
Another Lair bites the dust, here is the Scripture-{Genesis 3:8} And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the Garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the Garden. Presence means, one or many.
If I was to stand in the presence of somebody openly he will see me, if I was to hide from them, I am either looking at them, or I know which direction he is coming from. Because I am felling His presence. And with common sense-I can't be hiding if we are having along conversation with each other..
{Genesis 3:8-11}Not only was the Lord God in the garden, the devil was also in there too.
If the scriptures tell us no-one had seen God at anytime. Then who was it, that Adam hid himself from their presence.
{Genesis 8:22} The Lord God said the man has become like One of Us, to know good and evil. For a JW, you should have all the answers to this verse {One of Us?} First of all-He said let Us make man in our own image
Does this scripture ring a bell {John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God-and the word was God.
And the word is Jesus {John 1:14} But of course you wouldn't believe in such truth. "Dickhead" show me where in {Proverbs 8:31} it said the master builder? Not even your bible say's Jesus is the master builder?

Liarrr where did you see master builder in my post ? U better go and get glasses Sir


Adam hear VOICE , the bible never said he saw God ... Liar

johnw74:


look at these bad mouthed accusers taking after their father, their god

satan
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as'
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: - Satan.
Total KJV occurrences: 36

and these bad mouths think they are jehovahs witnesses
well they are but they witness a false jehovah, a false jesus, and they witness everything that is false,
false doctrines, false prophecies, etc.

Adam saw God ? bunch of liars

Are you serious, what you can't read your own quotes, lies upon lies-and its written in front of you, and still you lie against the truth. Listen to this Jozzy4 deny's saying Master builder.
Talk about blindness "how do you live without having common sense?{Genesis 3:8-22} The Lord God had a complete conversation with them, and the Lord God had even made tunics of skin for them to wear-and you claim they said all this without seeing each other. Hmmm?

Jozzy4:


Oga, calm down ... Let's see your lies



His master worker - Proverb 8:31


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Liarrr where did you see master builder in my post ? U better go and get glasses Sir


Adam hear VOICE , the bible never said he saw God ... Liar

brocab:
Are you serious, what you can't read your own quotes, lies upon lies-and its written in front of you, and still you lie against the truth. Listen to this Jozzy4 deny's saying Master builder.

Haaaa confirm liar , you need glasses, quote where I said Master Builder ?


Adam said he saw God liarrrs .

[quote author=Jozzy4 post=51179653]

Oga, calm down ... Let's see your lies



His master worker - Proverb 8:31

Meanwhile the verse identified God as the one speaking ... Not so? U need to tell me if its two people speaking as God in that scripture ?

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and where did you see Master builder in that post ?


If your eyes function properly, you would have seen I wrote Master Worker NOT Builder . but u won't na since to lie is your hubby

ARE YOU REALLY THIS BLIND? JW's call Jesus either the master builder-or master worker..
[quote author=Jozzy4 post=51179653]

Oga, calm down ... Let's see your lies



His master worker - Proverb 8:31

Meanwhile the verse identified God as the one speaking ... Not so? U need to tell me if its two people speaking as God in that scripture ?

Jozzy4:


Haaaa confirm liar , you need glasses, quote where I said Master Builder ?


Adam said he saw God liarrrs .

Jehovah himself created all things by his own hands

Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

There was no worker
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;


these verses reveals that Jehovah is the only worker there was none with him.

brocab:
ARE YOU REALLY THIS BLIND? JW's call Jesus either the master builder-or master worker..

I would have said You are stupid , but to be civil ... what Did I write ? Master worker or Master Builder ?

solite3:

Jehovah himself created all things by his own hands

Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

There was no worker
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;


these verses reveals that Jehovah is the only worker there was none with him.

Jehovah is the Creator , so he alone deserves all the praise and credit as this verses said.


Jesus is wisdom personified , He was beside him as a master worker - Proverb 8:31 said so . Jesus is only doing the will of Jehovah his Father .

He himself later said : My father is working until now , and I am working according to John 5:17