TV01:
Bukatyne you won't greet me before you rain queries on my head


I do not believe OP is and I certainly do not. However, best clarify with OP. Who by the way has agreed with my original rejoinder.


Cultures - not necessarily religion - supported polygyny for many reasons. High mortality, family labour, yes, even prestige, and even the libido differential between men and women. Even then, numbers alone (approx. 106 men to 100 women) meant that not all men could have many wives, and it was men at the lower end who would be the biggest losers, having no-one. Typically lower status, they would be doomed to live short-brutish, servile lives.

Beatings happened, but I don't know of a culture that upheld it as normal & desirable. I would imagine in most, it was actionable by the women.


And that is what Feminism and progressive liberal ideology seeks to do. The biggest two are the removal of biological reality and the casting off of moral restraint.


I only mentioned "higher responsibilities", which covers all nature of forms of male/female relationships. Do girlfriends customarily support their boyfriends financially .

In terms of achievements, accomplishment, being established, education, social level, and of course finances. Where money is not such a driver, other more cosmetic things may come into play.

Yes. Yes I am. It's evidenced even here on NL. More than an unfaithful man, perhaps even more than an abusive man, women reserve the most opprobrium and anger for "irresponsible men" - not taking ownership & responsibility for the welfare of their families. Are you seriously saying you cannot see that?

Building a home in that sense is more about giving your husband the support he needs to carry out his role. Not being un-submissive or antagonistic, or dragging headship. It's not about turning sole provider, or even major provider. I appreciate economic dynamics and some individual situation may change things, but a man should always be responsible in this regard. Whilst it should never be more than optional/situational for women.

Women typically go for dominant, leadership type traits. Evidence of ambition, drive and success. It's even noted physically in the typical desire for "taller men" like. Note conversely that for most men the main - and sometimes the only - driver - is physical attractiveness. Followed by femininity, nurture.

Many guys don't get why the girls are attracted to the loud, flashily dressed guys in their circles, when they know them to be lousy. But women are viscerally drawn by sight as well, just not so much to physical appearance, but appearance of status.

It's why women are always confused as to why their accomplishments don't impress men. Or deem them scared of successful women. Men typically are not checking for that. It's more of a selling point when things are hard or the man is impecunious to a degree. But all things being equal, highly accomplished but unattractive women, will always be behind beautiful and/or young women.

well said sir!

checkengine:

Rebellion hasn't yielded in any clime being it in the pre-historic days or this modern age as has been inferred by us any bankable result. Thus your handle seem to reflect your demeanour in reality. No insult intended.

What does my handle have to do with anything? Learn to see the forest for the trees.

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I can reel out offhand, twenty acts of rebellion and revolutionary jumps from the annals of history that have yielded positive results. What precisely are you talking about?

Having said that, till the end of time, the society wether in the eastern, western, northern or southern hemisphere will never quite absorb the quest for gender equality.

They will. In a thousand years from now if this current trend sustains, they will.

Gender equity will make for a better infusion into the fabrics of the society than the present war by feminists

Only insecure and retrogressive men consider gender equality to be a war. There is no war here. Such paranoia! I guess this is where ignorance worms its way into the frame.

The breaking down of all the value systems entrenched by the early occupants of this space called earth that ensured life and living was more meaningful has been eroded by the warriors of gender equality

Were the early occupants of earth infallible deities? What value system(s)? Highlight them.

and unfortunately, since it's a war, they are ashamed to concede defeat and so the war rages on and the ladies of this generation are swallowing it line, hook and sinker. If this isn't flushed down the dustbin of history just like the German quest to conquer the world as pioneered by Adolf Hitler, the worst is yet to come.

To be honest, you're but skipping like a broken CD.

Make me understand you, what part of gender equality makes you uncomfortable?

IAmOged:

mtcheeww......

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You need deliverance from low self-esteem

Pidgin2:
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You need deliverance from low self-esteem

This is no low self-esteem grandma....this is not dehumanizing atall.......
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its reckoning with the natural order...
....so stop being an hypocrite online here...we have had enough of failed marriage or relationship rampant all around us this modern times....


meanwhile....

DarkRebel101:


It's one of those kids who have managed to steal out from the puerile caves of Romanceland.

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His tone grows softer and he comes across as feminine only when he quotes those who agree with him. But he becomes combustible when he is opposed and bewrays himself in the process.
The true identity of a man is revealed in the face of opposition.

He needs to up the ante on his acting skills, even a gumshoe with a broken nose would have sniffed out the deceit right from the word go.

what's this?

How do people manage to be so funny but when I try, I end up flat on my face?

cococandy:
what's this?

How do people manage to be so funny but when I try, I end up flat on my face?

I took up battle-rapping as a pastime as early as JSS 3, and to be a force to be reckoned with in the rap-battle circuit, your freestyled bars had to be witty and dripping wet with humour. Humour was the prime determinant in every battle.

I think I picked up the habit from there, howbeit I consider myself more sarcastic than funny.

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Maybe you weren't genetically wired to be funny. Maybe you were wired to be a stict, code-adhering schoolmarm.

TheArchangel:
A fvcking sh!t load of abominable hogwash.

Tell me about it. I had to scroll up to see the gender of the writer. She must have low self-esteem and to add salt to injury, she quotes Trump, a known womanizer and abuser.

IAmOged:

“Wives, be submissive to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands.” Ephesians 5:21-24

“Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet woman will be saved through bearing children, if she continues in faith and love and holiness, with modesty.” 1 Timothy 2:11-15


let the truth be our friend.

So your bible quote is confusing me. Clarify something for me please, if a woman holds a higher position than a man, has this woman somehow commited a sin? Or lets say, a female leader in the church, has this woman commited a sin by preaching to men?

Masikay:


So your bible quote is confusing me. Clarify something for me please, if a woman holds a higher position than a man, has this woman somehow commited a sin? Or lets say, a female leader in the church, has this woman commited a sin by preaching to men?

Yes she has.

The bible is clear, women are not to take authority over, or teach mature adult men in a church setting. And shouldn't at home either.


TV

TV01:

Yes she has.

The bible is clear, women are not to take authority over, or teach mature adult men in a church setting. And shouldn't at home either.


TV

Oh.... Is your argument for male superiority restricted only to marriage and in the church? And you didn't answer the first question.

Masikay:


So your bible quote is confusing me. Clarify something for me please, if a woman holds a higher position than a man, has this woman somehow commited a sin? Or lets say, a female leader in the church, has this woman commited a sin by preaching to men?

am sorry ma, if you couldnt even grasp the simple truth in dose sacred words den even an explaination in 7folls thesis wouldnt help either...

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cos you are deep embroiled in your own subjective opinions which doesnt change d truth and d reality....

IAmOged:

am sorry ma, if you couldnt even grasp the simple truth in dose sacred words den even an explaination in 7folls thesis wouldnt help either...

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cos you are deep embroiled in your own subjective opinions which doesnt change d truth and d reality....

Ey.. Don't go all dictionary words on me. I was asking a question because I was a little bit confused. And someone has answered me, you can chill now.

Masikay:


Ey.. Don't go all dictionary words on me. I was asking a question because I was a little bit confused. And someone has answered me, you can chill now.

Gud to hear you ve grasp these truths ma...

IAmOged:

Gud to hear you ve grasp these truths ma...

Nah.. Actually I haven't. Because the person hasn't answered me. Are you saying males are superior to females in all ramifications or just Christianity and marriage?

Masikay:
Oh.... Is your argument for male superiority restricted only to marriage and in the church? And you didn't answer the first question.

Authority, not superiority. Perhaps "seniority" would be better.

If a woman is senior to a man in their place of work or professionally, or has authority over him in those realms, no problem.


TV

IAmOged:

This is no low self-esteem grandma....this is not dehumanizing atall.......
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its reckoning with the natural order...
....so stop being an hypocrite online here...we have had enough of failed marriage or relationship rampant all around us this modern times....


meanwhile....

Granddaughter, is low self-esteem your only antidote for failed marriages, is your brain or any part of you less developed than males, how come they are superior to you? I feel sorry for your female offspring

I never heard God say men are superior, only some online key board champion calling herself a lesser being

TV01:
Authority, not superiority. Perhaps "seniority" would be better.

If a woman is senior to a man in their place of work or professionally, or has authority over him in those realms, no problem.


TV

So what would a lady who has the gift of prophesy do? Prophecy to only females?

Masikay:


Nah.. Actually I haven't. Because the person hasn't answered me. Are you saying males are superior to females in all ramifications or just Christianity and marriage?

pheww...
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pls Take a stroll back to page one ..then...
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read and digest forward, comments to comments..
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by the time you get here back
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your curiosity should have been half-solved...if not all ma

Masikay:
So what would a lady who has the gift of prophesy do? Prophecy to only females?

...is prophesy leading or taking authority over men?


TV

TV01:

...is prophesy leading or taking authority over men?


TV

Someone who prophesies is referred to as a prophet. Or pastor or whatever. And you are saying female leaders are sinners. So what is a female, who was called by God to preach his gospel supposed to do?

sisisioge:


Alright, will have to leave alone. You went off rails entirely. By the way, I hope your husband is cool with him taking up your name? As in Mr. Cococandy? God forbid you take his to foster oppression . Pls enjoy your day

Muslim women are not obligated to take up their husbands names, it wasn't written any where in the Bible, it is a western law and nothing else, Africans adopted it with the coming of Christianity.

TV01:

...is prophesy leading or taking authority over men?


TV

But the founder of first square gospel church is a woman, was she a sinner? Also Katherine Kulhman led a ministry where men were under her, God used her to perform numerous miracles, why did He?

Masikay:
Someone who prophesies is referred to as a prophet. Or pastor or whatever. And you are saying female leaders are sinners. So what is a female, who was called by God to preach his gospel supposed to do?

Prophesying is not an office. Offices - in as much as they still exist, and that's a whole different discussion - are occupied by men. The office of pastor is reserved for men. Preaching the gospel is not the same as taking authority or teaching mature Christian men.

Failures on the part of men may mean a woman has to act, but that is not Gods perfect will, or else he would give his approval to single-motherhood .


TV

Pidgin2:
But the founder of first square gospel church is a woman, was she a sinner? Also Katherine Kulhman led a ministry where men were under her, God used her to perform numerous miracles, why did He?

Starting churches or performing miracles are not noted as signs of Gods approval or evidence of a righteous Christian life. I'm not judging anyone, and not that we sometimes act in ignorance. I am merely stating what the bible clearly teaches.

Matthew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


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Pidgin2:


Granddaughter, is low self-esteem your only antidote for failed marriages, is your brain or any part of you less developed than males, how come they are superior to you? I feel sorry for your female offspring

I never heard God say men are superior, only some online key board champion calling herself a lesser being

No dey argue without fact...
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Wetin concern or bring ma offspring for dis marra now.....you dey mad?
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you go just dey argue blindly after u don drink ur feminism concortion finish....
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that one change reality? ....everyone na sexist...make we all know our weak points and strengths and leverage on that...hypocrite.
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that one resemble low self esteem/oppression/dehumanisation for your face
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not the head2head authority una want with ya husband....

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No just dey front ya mouth for online here...
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if you are married or in a serious relationship....enh....

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if you dey vex or wan prove ur opinions...go sit down ur husband and talk about it....biko

TV01:

Starting churches or performing miracles are not noted as signs of Gods approval. I'm not judging anyone, and not that we sometimes act in ignorance. I am merely stating what the bible clearly teaches.

Matthew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’


TV

Acts 19:11-16, please read it. You cannot progress for long especially when delivering people from bandage without being disgraced by the devil if you are fake

God performed countless miracles through both women's ministries without such incidents as the above ever occurring. The same God that does not discriminate in giving His spirit to both genders, does not discriminate in manifesting the gifts of His spirit through them.

IAmOged:
[s]No dey argue without fact...
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Wetin concern or bring ma offspring for dis marra now.....you dey mad?
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you go just dey argue blindly after u don drink ur feminism concortion finish....
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that one change reality? ....everyone na sexist...make we all know our weak points and strengths and leverage on that...hypocrite.
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that one resemble low self esteem/oppression/dehumanisation for your face
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not the head2head authority una want with ya husband....

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No just dey front ya mouth for online here...
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if you are married or in a serious relationship....enh....

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if you dey vex or wan prove ur opinions...go sit down ur husband and talk about it....biko[/s]

Granddaughter, you no get respect, what type of upbringing did you have abi you no dey fear elderly people? If I see any more insult from you eh, you will use an alternate moniker, be warned.

TV01:

Prophesying is not an office. Offices - in as much as they still exist, and that's a whole different discussion - are occupied by men. The office of pastor is reserved for men. Preaching the gospel is not the same as taking authority or teaching mature Christian men.



TV

Females can prophecy but they can't be prophets? Be clear. I'm actually a lot confused.

Pidgin2:



Granddaughter, you no get respect, what type of upbringing did you have abi you no dey fear elderly people? If I see any more insult from you eh, you will use an alternate moniker, be warned.

Ederly My Poo Poo...
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No elder woman who have seen what life/relationship entails dey argue like you dey do...
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I resemble your mate ni.....
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ban abi? try am now.....
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dem tell u say i carry mat come sleep for here...huh?...
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Go sleep jor Mama Arugbo

TV01:

Yes she has.

The bible is clear, women are not to take authority over, or teach mature adult men in a church setting. And shouldn't at home either.


TV

And by this logic, female teachers and lecturers are sinners too abi. In fact add female entrepreneurs, managers, any female with male subordinates...

Men have been trying to suppress women since bible times.

Dumbest thread of the year 2016.
Let me exit it. Stewpidity is contagious.

InformedLola:


And by this logic, female teachers and lecturers are sinners too abi. In fact add female entrepreneurs, managers, any female with male subordinates...

Men have been trying to suppress women since bible times .

And successfully too if I may add.

Yet they are still paranoid and afraid of women.
Always seeking new means to enforce their oppression even if it means masquerading as females online.

One wonders why.