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| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:13pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul: bros why you wan spoil show now.. you no know na trick hin de trick all them athiests here... you wan break am na |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:23pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
I guess you don't want people to see the bolded, you don't want them to know that placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading are the secrets behind this . Just as tricks are the secrets of magic.hope i quoted you HARDMIRROR Are the bolded natural or supernatural... medical or magic? ![]() |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by damogul: 12:24pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
uvalued:I am just carrying out my civil rights of truthful interrogation ![]() |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:26pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul:yeah oh freedom of expression at its best.. HARDMIRROR please tell damogul da name of da dude that died from fasting...biko nu ... |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 12:29pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
maka go dat thread where damogul pointed and ask my question on supernatural and magic. https://www.nairaland.com/3477844/christians-point-out-hardmirrors-lies/1#51296013 maybe hin go answer me |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by PastorAIO: 12:40pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
You are missing the point. Nobody is arguing about whether there is an afterlife or not. Paul in that passage is arguing that there has to be an afterlife (a resurrection of the dead) if christianity is to be valid. That doesn't even come into this argument because it is already assumed that there is a resurrection of the dead. The point is who will we meet in the after life. Is it Osiris? Is it Allah? Is it Jesus? Or is it an atheist's nothing? Considering the endless possibilities, Pascal's wager (which Dopeman is espousing) is not a reasonable approach to take. uvalued: uvalued: |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by damogul: 1:08pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror you mentioned names here.... Morning everyone.But when it comes to mentioning the name of the alleged Brother who died via fasting related complications you go cold and silent. How come? This brother you claimed died has been dead since 2010. Will he rise from the dead to slap you if you simply mention his name? Pls His name is very vital to this investigation. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(op): 1:15pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul:Hahahaha So now you want to believe my story? Lol. Abeg, you are so sure it is a lie, you don't need no evidence. ![]() |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by damogul: 1:19pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror:I honestly do not know how my post gave you this conclusion All i did was offer you where you mentioned names but you refuse or run away from or dodge mentioning the name of the fictitious CACCF brother who died in the manner you claimed. If you feel that my line of question endorses your claims then indeed you have acceptance issues because it does not. Back on track.....answer my question pls. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gift101(m): 1:21pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror:Bro whether you believe it or not it won't change the fact that God exists. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by damogul: 1:23pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
Gift101:He actually believes that he is the litmus test to the existence or lack of existence of God. Delusions of Grandeur is what it is called. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uzoexcel(m): 1:26pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
"You have to work on yourself" Good point Bhaelarkush: |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(op): 1:27pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul:So now he is fictitious? Lol I am enjoying this. Get ready to eat your words anyway. I am still waiting for the acclaimed futa alumni, let's see the report he brings |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(op): 1:28pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
Gift101:lwkmd |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by damogul: 1:31pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror:I think you are a bit slow on the uptake! Everything is fictitious until proven. You graduated from FUTA did you not? Yet you do not understand what fictitious stands for? |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gift101(m): 1:35pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
From pastor to athiesm, lol... That pastor better repent or else his own part of hell will be very hot. And the pastor should be ashamed of himself. It means the pastor wasn't a dedicated servant of God. Do you think because you're a pastor that life will now be sweet ? The bible teaches us that the moment we give our life to God and repent, we'll begin to face trials and temptations that'll affects our lives in such a way that'll make us not to believe in God. If Jesus passed through trials and temptations, then who are we and how holy are we that will be enough for us not to pass through that phaze ? John 16:33 "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." Galatians 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering(patience), gentleness, goodness, faith," If that pastor were serious with God, he would've been encouraged with these bible passages. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by debbydee(f): 2:02pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror:@ OP Assuming you were Job in the bible what would you have done? |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by tunene66: 2:07pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
@hardmirror I believe that in the interest of making things plain n clear, u can safely answer the question on the name of the person who died. U mentioned other names to buttress your points. Mentioning the name will add more credibility to your story Trust u will do d noble n honourable thing If u refuse, which you have the right to do, then it will allow for speculation n uncertainty on your story As I have earlier posted, let all b civil polite n mature. The truth is out there, the truth will prevail |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 2:09pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
Gift101:
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| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 2:40pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul:Oga calm down now. You asked somebody a question. wont you give him time to do his research and come up with the answer? Na wa for you o! |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gift101(m): 2:41pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
The funny fact is that one of the main reason why people go into Athiesm is because of the stories they've been hearing about the Last Day And Hell. My brothers and sisters no matter how hard you try to deceive yourself that there's nothing like God so that event is a tale and lies that people use to frighten and deceive humans, it can't still change the fact that it'll come to pass. Rasture will take place soon and i'm sure ur so-called scientist will deceive you all that it's an alien attack and that is why hollywood is deceiving you all that there's something like ALIEN INVASION by acting films that shows that when aliens attack, they can use their machine to teleport humans above the sky to their space ship. If you guys are sensitive enough you'll know that they're trying to deceive you that if such an event takes place, it means that it's nothing else than an ALIEN INVASION and it means the visitors are enemies. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gift101(m): 2:49pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
Seun and all athiest, can't you see that these scientist are trying to deceive you all that there's no God or Hell ? If there's no hell for punishment then what's the reason for us to be good people when there's no eternal punishment for it after death ? Can't you see scientist are deceiving you all of what the bible has been warning us about ? 1. That the universe forms by itself; can something comes from nothing. If there's a source to how the universe created itself, then what is the thing that created that source ? 2. That the last day for earth is not now because our solar system is going to explode 3billion years from now and that before then they must have advance in technology to find a new safe planet. This is just to deceive you not to believe in anything like judgement day. 3. That there's nothing like spiritual powers. If you don't believe in God and spiritual powers then i would like you to believe in magicians (not illusionist). How can a man walk on top of water ? Is that natural ? |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by damogul: 2:50pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
chrmn1:Did you say i should give him time to do his research? What research? His story is 6yrs old so where is the research required to do when he is an eye witness? He says he knew this person in his school days so did he research before saying so? Contrariwise i am the one who needs to carry out a research and not him. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gift101(m): 2:53pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmYnl7FBEPo 4. That there's possiblity of alien existence. If you can believe that alien does exist and they're more advance in powers and technology than us, then why can't you believe that God does exist ? Why don't you think it this way that Maybe the alien you believe in are the ones that created and form this planet, then created the first man and woman ? |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gift101(m): 3:04pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
You all will see it, there'll one world government and one world money currency. By the time you all hear about this, you should know that RAPTURE and THE END is close just as the prophesy is in THE BIBLE |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by ishow2005(m): 3:09pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
And the debate will continue for as long as possible but it appears our xtian n Muslim brothers r not just sincere enough. Agreed, there is God, there is Christ... Have u tried to ask why each religion to claim to be the truth?Have u reason it at all? Dont u think something is missing somewhere? I have no issue with Christ or Muhammed and infact am a muslim n won't stop bin one but I still maintain, Islam and Christianity that we r made to accept got mixed with politics in a way and alas |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Icon79(m): 3:35pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror:HardMirror, I haven’t really had the time to go through all your incoherent ranting, but let me briefly try to deconstruct your hubris based on the few portions I have read. First of all, you are not a born again Christian. Never has and never was. And here I will tell you why you were never a Christian even if you claimed to be one. Speaking in tongues does NOT make one a Christian. Demons also do speak in tongues, but they are not Christians. Are they? Those of us who have been in deliverance ministry know that it's very common to see demon possessed folks burst out speaking in tongues during deliverance ministrations. Hence, speaking in tongues is not the mark of a born again Christian. Satan can fake tongues. Performing exorcism (I chose to call it exorcism in this case) does not make one a Christian either. Even in the scripture, the 7 sons of Sceva were performing exorcism, remember? (see Acts 19:11-20). And many white garment churches and many Roman catholic priests do perform exorcism, but I am not sure that most of them are born again Christians if you know what I mean. Further more, having a spirit of divination (you called it word of knowledge, but I will call it spirit of divination since I am sure that you didn't manifest the real thing) does not make one a Christian. In the Bible the slave girl from Macedonia also had the spirit of divination; so should we call her a Christian too? (see Acts 16:17). And I can go on and on and on to deconstruct all your claims to justify calling yourself a Christian, but I don’t have the time right now. But here’s the bottom line, I think you were possessed by the religious spirit and was able to masquerade amongst Christians for so long that you started lying even to yourself. You were never born again and have never had the Spirit of God in you. You were only faking Christianity. Unfortunately for you, you can only fake Christianity for so long because, eventually, your sin would find you out (Numbers 32:23). You were the amongst the people whom the Lord Jesus Christ was referring to when he prophesied: Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness. (Matthew 7: 21-23). Listen, I have news for you. You’re not even an atheist either. I think you’re just a confused young man who stumbled into the ministry without having any personal relationship with God and then got entangled by the religious spirit. You have never been sincere in serving God, that’s why the Grace of God has not reached you yet. I pray and hope that the Lord Jesus Christ may have mercy on your soul eventually and deliver you from this bondage. I said this hoping that you have not committed the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit yet. Anyway, I will keep praying for you! You will understand the real thing once you have an encounter with the Lord. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by tunde233(m): 4:35pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror:This is your first lie but continue |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by bennyann: 4:40pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
damogul:The one you quoted is funny. Maybe he meant you should give him time for research so he can correct his story or defend the loopholes in it. Don't you think so? Because I also don't understand the research someone giving his own life story wants to carry out in order to give a believable conclusion. If he needs a research then it's a story and not a real life experience. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 5:31pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror:i don't personally know an amputee but i have had one who had a leg badly shorter and leaner than the other healed. It was by prayer and the power of God. No placebo, adrenaline, hypnosis, derangment, delusion, hallucinations, intelligent forecasting, cold reading involved. If that's not miraculous enough, what is? |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by tunde233(m): 5:34pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
HardMirror:Your second lie detected. I am coming |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Seun(mod): 5:37pm On Nov 23, 2016 |
Gift101:Jesus said he would come back soon but it's been 2000 years and it hasn't happened. Throughout that time all Christians believed, just like you do, that Jesus would arrive during their lifetimes and it didn't happen. What makes you so sure that you will be right when so many others who felt the same way you feel, have died of old age and nothing ever happened? |
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