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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Alfamann: 4:42pm On Apr 30, 2016
HardMirror:
CONTINUATION...
I was very patient with Azo and even though he was older than me, he was more like a younger brother to me. I had to take time to teach him the bible, we discussed logic, we discussed science and had a lot of philosophical puzzles about life we talked about.

This is the thing with xtians. When they wave that their pre-historic book, they feel very superior to others. With condescending attitudes and moral high grounds. I love bringing them down fast.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 4:48pm On Apr 30, 2016
Oga hard mirror come out and continue your story jare. U are just putti g every body on hold cheesy grin

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:41pm On Apr 30, 2016
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:42pm On Apr 30, 2016
CONTINUATION
Life in school was like living a fantasy!
Now, Note I was not a regular christian, I had so many people looking up to me and the burden was not easy. So I had to have friends of like mind, friends that shared the burden with me. Friends I also shared their burden just as the bible encouraged us to bear each others burden.

Akindeko Moto park was our war zone. If I tell you how we prayed you may find it hard to believe. We could pray for 12 hrours straight NONE STOP. You don't believe me? Ask those who know Baba Ogundare or Pastor Charlse of Dream Center church a spiritual son of Pastor shola Areogun. Speaking in tongues made 99% of our prayers.

I had 3 friends I always prayed with. 2 of them were from deeper life and one from Love Domain. Now this is sort of contradictory. Love Domain don't take doctrines and laws as serious as deeper life members.
The deeper life brothers were only interested in soul winning, but the love domain brother was all about working of miracles and working in the supernatural. He hated our "morning cries".

I remember the day he said we should go to akindeko Mosque (don't know if the mosque is still there) and challenge them just the way elijah challenged the prophets of baal.
His proposal was for us to get a mad man and take to the mosque and ask them to cure the mad man, if they can't then we will cure the man and they will know we serve the true God. cheesy

I recall how we kept quiet that midnight (about 3am) only 4 of use in the dark at akindeko Park. Listening for the Holy Spirit to direct us to go ahead or withdraw from this suicide mission.

We have had clashes with the moslims at this mosque because we were very stubborn and radical. We were always disturbing them with our preachings. They almost stabbed one of us at a time.

There was this guy, Alfa Christopher (real name) and Alfa Civil (real nick name) who were are arch enemies then. Alfa civil was very popular in the whole engineering school.

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/1#45188943

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:48pm On Apr 30, 2016
We had to drop the Love Domain brother from our group. The guy was always doing ridiculous things.
Had a lot of spiritual sons and daughters that treated him the way Pastor Adeboye and Co are treated. He was called daddy. He had them serve him all because he is their "daddy in the lord". They paid for his bus fares, they gave hime food etc. He believed that once you are born again, you can never lose your salvation. So we stopped taking him seriously.
So we never did the mad man stunt and he never did it himself after we dropped him from our group.

Continued: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/1#45190303

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:50pm On Apr 30, 2016
CONTINUATION. MIRACLES! Yes miracles were real to us. VERY REAL! And yes I saw and performed a lot of miracles.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:52pm On Apr 30, 2016
urahara:
Oga hard mirror come out and continue your story jare. U are just putti g every body on hold cheesy grin
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:53pm On Apr 30, 2016
Alfamann:


This is the thing with xtians. When they wave that their pre-historic book, they feel very superior to others. With condescending attitudes and moral high grounds. I love bringing them down fast.
Smart guy. You are on point there. This are all sub conscious psychology that makes christianity work.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nelsonoba: 5:54pm On Apr 30, 2016
HardMirror:
CONTINUATION
Life in school was like living a fantasy!
Now, Note I was not a regular christian, I had so many people looking up to me and the burden was not easy. So I had to have friends of like mind, friends that shared the burden with me. Friends I also shared their burden just as the bible encouraged us to bear each others burden.

Akindeko Moto park was our war zone. If I tell you how we prayed you may find it hard to believe. We could pray for 12 hrours straight NONE STOP. You don't believe me? Ask those who know Baba Ogundare or Pastor Charlse of Dream Center church a spiritual son of Pastor shola Areogun. Speaking in tongues made 99% of our prayers.

I had 3 friends I always prayed with. 2 of them were from deeper life and one from Love Domain. Now this is sort of contradictory. Love Domain don't take doctrines and laws as serious as deeper life members.
The deeper life brothers were only interested in soul winning, but the love domain brother was all about working of miracles and working in the supernatural. He hated our "morning cries".

I remember the day he said we should go to akindeko Mosque (don't know if the mosque is still there) and challenge them just the way elijah challenged the prophets of baal.
His proposal was for us to get a mad man and take to the mosque and ask them to cure the mad man, if they can't then we will cure the man and they will know we serve the true God. cheesy

I recall how we kept quiet that midnight (about 3am) only 4 of use in the dark at akindeko Park. Listening for the Holy Spirit to direct us to go ahead or withdraw from this suicide mission.

We have had clashes with the moslims at this mosque because we were very stubborn and radical. We were always disturbing them with our preachings. They almost stabbed one of us at a time.

There was this guy, Alfa Christopher (real name) and Alfa Civil (real nick name) who were are arch enemies then. Alfa civil was very popular in the whole engineering school.

Can I tell you something Mr NEW ATHEIST? We are not in a competition with atheists.......nobody is begging you to do God a favour by believing in Him. If you believe in God and the death and resurrection of Christ for your sins, you are merely doing yourself a favour of saving your soul. You will certainly discover if you or me is the FOOL here by the time you die and get into eternity to face judgement. Let's leave the answer to that till we both close our eyes here on earth and open them in eternity! No need to argue with you.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:59pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Can I tell you something Mr NEW ATHEIST? We are not in a competition with atheists.......nobody is begging you to do God a favour by believing in Him. If you believe in God and the death and resurrection of Christ for your sins, you are merely doing yourself a favour of saving your soul. You will certainly discover if you or me is the FOOL here by the time you die and get into eternity to face judgement. Let's leave the answer to that till we both close our eyes here on earth and open them in eternity! No need to argue with you.
Can you kindly quit stressing yourself?
Now I want to use this guys post to point some things out to the intelligent people here.
1. Notice the words he used all caps for:
-"MR NEW ATHEIST"
-FOOL
Now this is psychology, tho he is doing it subconsciously. He is using the "mr new atheist" tag on me in order to down-size my confidence and make me feel inexperienced or feel I am new so I don't really know what I am saying. Nice tactics there. Always works when preaching. You have to make your target feel they don't know much about life. They have to have little confidence in themselves. This makes it easy for them to listen to the so called "superior" argument you bring.
-he subtly used the word "fool" but he made sure I noticed it by typing it in Caps. This is to further break down my confidence in myself or what I think I know.
Then he finishes with drawing my attention to something that is a threat to me. What lies in wait for me after death. Now this is a very smart move.
Why?
-he feels it would be hard for me to disprove punishment awaiting me after death.
- he is using threats.
- fear of the unknown could make me succumb to his solution (being born again).
These are the essentials.
More of this as we go on.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Alfamann: 6:06pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Can I tell you something Mr NEW ATHEIST? We are not in a competition with atheists.......nobody is begging you to do God a favour by believing in Him. If you believe in God and the death and resurrection of Christ for your sins, you are merely doing yourself a favour of saving your soul. You will certainly discover if you or me is the FOOL here by the time you die and get into eternity to face judgement. Let's leave the answer to that till we both close our eyes here on earth and open them in eternity! No need to argue with you.

Colonial bullshiit. Thank doG I'm more exposed than my grand daddy.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 6:08pm On Apr 30, 2016
Hhmmmmm looks like i nearly missed this to be ground breaking story... well i am here now **Grabs seat near OgundeleT** "guy give me pop corn and stout abeg cool

Little suggestion Pastor HardMirror, you need not reply the mentions from heart broken vulnerable Christian brothers that has been raining down pleadingly on this thread..

simply ignore and focus on your story which is why we are here..

Contunu **sips a cup of atlantic ocean**

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 6:09pm On Apr 30, 2016
I sight you my boss davien...

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by davien(m): 6:12pm On Apr 30, 2016
johnydon22:
I sight you my boss davien...
lol, just reading through... it's an interesting thread and I want to see where it goes..
As usual all anyone who disagrees with him here can do is only insult or say "you never were a true Christian because... " or say he's "lost", they have to cripple him in their minds to dissuade from doubting themselves..

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 6:16pm On Apr 30, 2016
promise101:
Wow, a new wise fool!

I pray that you will be smiling while dying on your deathbed.

I think you'll make a good atheist soon, just let it all out now, soon your ringtone will change wink

**Grabs my slippers and runs for my life** grin grin

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:16pm On Apr 30, 2016
johnydon22:
Hhmmmmm looks like i nearly missed this to be ground breaking story... well i am here now **Grabs seat near OgundeleT** "guy give me pop corn and stout abeg cool

Little suggestion Pastor HardMirror, you need not reply the mentions from heart broken vulnerable Christian brothers that has been raining down pleadingly on this thread..

simply ignore and focus on your story which is why we are here..

Contunu **sips a cup of atlantic ocean**
So glad to have you bro.
I want to put it to rest once and for all here that not all atheist were unserious christians. They keep trying to tag us all as christians that were babes in christ. Let other christians or muslims who are struggling with the forced identity of christianity know the truth.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nelsonoba: 6:18pm On Apr 30, 2016
HardMirror:

Can you kindly quit stressing yourself?

Do I sound stressed to you? I'm certainly not! I don't belong to the class of some religious people who hate others and try to fight for their god. My God is not under any threat from you or anybody, He is God all by Himself, He doesn't need your approval of Him or your recognition of His sovereignty for Him to be God. What I feel is not stress, but great horror at the sight of what awaits you in eternity for the boldness to openly challenge the Almighty with the same brain and logical reasoning that He created and gave to you. One thing I know the devil for is the fact that he will use you and DUMP YOU! You are feeling cool with yourself because of the excess knowledge you think you have? Don't worry, God has seen and dealt with your type before, and your case is not new to Him. You will not be the first to deny Christ, and you will not be the last either, but like I said, by the time the devil is done using you and he feels he has no further need for your services, HE WILL DUMP YOU LIKE poo IS DUMPED IN A TOILET! By the time you find yourself after death in anguish and torment in hell and you see the same devil you are working for now being the one adding to your torment, you will swear and curse the day you denied Christ.

Like I said, I feel horror at what I know awaits you, not stress.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Alfamann: 6:18pm On Apr 30, 2016
promise101:
Wow, a new wise fool!

I pray that you will be smiling while dying on your deathbed.

Whether you are smiling or crying, you'll still die.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by davien(m): 6:19pm On Apr 30, 2016
johnydon22:


Same here boss.. the guy above is so angry always throwing insults and vulgar words at anybody who doesn't believe in his version of god.

well not my problem though, i only hope he doesn't come down hard with depression cheesy grin cool
It's just that with them... not believing in their god is a problem... they have to belittle you for it before you outline how ridiculous their beliefs are...

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by davien(m): 6:21pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Do I sound stressed to you? I'm certainly not! I don't belong to the class of some religious people who hate others and try to fight for their god. My God is not under any threat from you or anybody, He is God all by Himself, He doesn't need your approval of Him or your recognition of His sovereignty for Him to be God. What I feel is not stress, but great horror at the sight of what awaits you in eternity for the boldness to openly challenge the Almighty with the same brain and logical reasoning that He created and gave to you. One thing I know the devil for is the fact that he will use you and DUMP YOU! You are feeling cool with yourself because of the excess knowledge you think you have? Don't worry, God has seen and dealt with your type before, and your case is not new to Him. You will not be the first to deny Christ, and you will not be the last either, but like I said, by the time the devil is done using you and he feels he has no further need for your services, HE WILL DUMP YOU LIKE poo IS DUMPED IN A TOILET! By the time you find yourself after death in anguish and torment in hell and you see the same devil you are working for now being the one adding to your torment, you will swear and curse the day you denied Christ.

Like I said, I feel horror at what I know awaits you, not stress.
That's a whole bunch of CAPS for someone not stressed..

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Alphanancy: 6:21pm On Apr 30, 2016
Hmmmnn... Op please continue and while you are at it, do well to ignore those who still live in delusion. I mean the christians. I gave up on christianity few months ago after being born again for over 20years. Though i still believe in the existence of a supreme being/creator.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nelsonoba: 6:21pm On Apr 30, 2016
Alfamann:


Colonial bullshiit. Thank doG I'm more exposed than my grand daddy.

I can see how "exposed" you are......no wonder you a human being is thanking "doG"

You will know on your deathbed what you've done to yourself all your life.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 6:23pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Can I tell you something Mr NEW ATHEIST? We are not in a competition with atheists.......nobody is begging you to do God a favour by believing in Him. If you believe in God and the death and resurrection of Christ for your sins, you are merely doing yourself a favour of saving your soul. You will certainly discover if you or me is the FOOL here by the time you die and get into eternity to face judgement. Let's leave the answer to that till we both close our eyes here on earth and open them in eternity! No need to argue with you.
embarassed embarassed allah is waitin for u.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 6:28pm On Apr 30, 2016
promise101:
Wow, a new wise fool!

I pray that you will be smiling while dying on your deathbed.

I understand u. U are pained that no one blivs in ur god . so u just threaten the op just to vent out your frustration about the fact that some people have just grown about ur babyish god construct yahweh.

Dont worry. It shall b well with u my brother

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zzzzy: 6:28pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Can I tell you something Mr NEW ATHEIST? We are not in a competition with atheists.......nobody is begging you to do God a favour by believing in Him. If you believe in God and the death and resurrection of Christ for your sins, you are merely doing yourself a favour of saving your soul. You will certainly discover if you or me is the FOOL here by the time you die and get into eternity to face judgement. Let's leave the answer to that till we both close our eyes here on earth and open them in eternity! No need to argue with you.
i was reading the book of romans recently and i came across this part, in chapter 1 vs 21-22
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
and also this
2 Timothy 4:3-4 ...'For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.'

This verses opened my eyes to see exactly what is happening. Sadly, we(christians in General) aren't worshipping God they way it should be. Our thinking is becoming futile and our lusts have made us turn away from the truth. We think we are wise whereas we are fools. It's just sad.
I am not surprised many people are disagreeing with you, calling christianity all sorts of names like fairy tales and the like. We are departing and the world is ending embarassed

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 6:30pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Do I sound stressed to you? I'm certainly not! I don't belong to the class of some religious people who hate others and try to fight for their god. My God is not under any threat from you or anybody, He is God all by Himself, He doesn't need your approval of Him or your recognition of His sovereignty for Him to be God. What I feel is not stress, but great horror at the sight of what awaits you in eternity for the boldness to openly challenge the Almighty with the same brain and logical reasoning that He created and gave to you. One thing I know the devil for is the fact that he will use you and DUMP YOU! You are feeling cool with yourself because of the excess knowledge you think you have? Don't worry, God has seen and dealt with your type before, and your case is not new to Him. You will not be the first to deny Christ, and you will not be the last either, but like I said, by the time the devil is done using you and he feels he has no further need for your services, HE WILL DUMP YOU LIKE poo IS DUMPED IN A TOILET! By the time you find yourself after death in anguish and torment in hell and you see the same devil you are working for now being the one adding to your torment, you will swear and curse the day you denied Christ.

Like I said, I feel horror at what I know awaits you, not stress.


kiss hw cute

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nelsonoba: 6:33pm On Apr 30, 2016
johnydon22:


I think you'll make a good atheist soon, just let it all out now, soon your ringtone will change wink

**Grabs my slippers and runs for my life** grin grin

Johny, shebi our paths have crossed again here? In case you don't know it; I don't hate you or our NEW ATHEIST who has joined your club. Jesus died for every human being including the people that crucified him. It was his love for us all that made him die for us even when we didnt love him. I represent him so I cannot hate the people he died for out of love. I only warn them of the danger ahead because I know it is real and if it wasnt real, Jesus would never have bothered to come to earth to pay the high price he paid to give us a chance of escaping the damnation ahead. You can make fun of me together with your NEW ATHEIST man, but I have at least told you a truth you will certainly confirm while on your death bed as you exit this world someday.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Alfamann: 6:33pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


I can see how "exposed" you are......no wonder you a human being is thanking "doG"

You will know on your deathbed what you've done to yourself all your life.

I already know how I will spend eternity: with Satan in Hell.

My fear will be finding myself in heaven after insulting doG and his gay son.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 6:36pm On Apr 30, 2016
nelsonoba:


Johny, shebi our paths have crossed again here? In case you don't know it; I don't hate you or our NEW ATHEIST who has joined your club. Jesus died for every human being including the people that crucified him. It was his love for us all that made him die for us even when we didnt love him. I represent him so I cannot hate the people he died for out of love. I only warn them of the danger ahead because I know it is real and if it wasnt real, Jesus would never have bothered to come to earth to pay the high price he paid to give us a chance of escaping the damnation ahead. You can make fun of me together with your NEW ATHEIST man, but I have at least told you a truth you will certainly confirm while on your death bed as you exit this world someday.

Lol grin

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:38pm On Apr 30, 2016
CONTINUATION...
MIRACLES!
Yeah! I mean it miracles were real. They don't happen always, but they did happen and still happen.
Also most of the gift of the spirit (Note GIFT of spirit is different from Fruit of the spirit). So I had the gift of word of knowledge strongly at work in me. I could easily tell people what was going on in their lives. This made me rise very fast in my school fellowship then and I was highly revered.
This gift made me the perfect candidate to anchor revivals and preach during our out reaches (crusades).
I am not good at teaching scripture, tho I was very vast. But I made sure I used my gift at every opportunity. Reason why it was easy for me to have so many converts.
When I preach people end Up rolling on the floor crying.
By the way I was a member of Anglican Student Fellowship. But I was nothing of the typical Anglican. I was a man of the spirit.
I preach with my eyes closed. I hardly open my eyes. I just go on stage and start delivering the word as the spirit lead. I start revealing the problems people are going thru, I start revealing the sins people were commiting in secret and before you know it the whole fellowship is crying . People will be rolling on the floor crying.
How could Bro...... Now end up being an atheist?

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