thedarkside:


who did i refered to again??

i dont remember...

Love the sarcasm...you know you remember
You are wicked!!!

Oya why do your partner in crime like this now? Tell am say you were delusion when you said that or better yet blame it on ipob.
Don't be like this....remember the code...bigots gotta stick together na

Ikechu101:


Chei this one can't even read or understand English

Out of nowhere he came swinging left and right to defend his bigot in crime w/o even understand wtf he read.

Chei. Just negodu

We'll I give you props on trying to defend your bigot partner in crime even though you ended up making yourself look like an idiot that has reading comprehension problem. At least he can't say you didn't try to defend him.

whatever...

mrvitalis:
First of all i am against Biafra reason being i believe we have more to gain in a united Nigeria than Biafra.... i will be glad if West Africa becomes one nation even

In all fairness Port Harcourt should be the capital or say uyo

Biafra offers resources control in it 25 provinces so Niger Deltans have nothing to fear

The centre is designed to be more of ceremonial as it will be mostly concerned with defence and external affairs

If we have provinces that's are strong there will be no dominated group

Igbos for a fact want the south south not for oil but for added population and access to the sea that's the truth

Igbos want SS not because of oil per se but population n access to sea is the highest truth I have heard abt Biafra struggle. You just said it all, igbos can always survive other wise we would not be enjoying the best standard of living we are enjoying now in Nigeria going by the precedence n scheme of things in naija.

Ikechu101:


Love the sarcasm...you know you remember
You are wicked!!!

Oya why do your partner in crime like this now? Tell am say you were delusion when you said that or better yet blame it on ipob.
Don't be like this....remember the code...bigots gotta stick together na

was it you i meant..??

i realy dont remember..

i didnt went back to read the comments...

i dont want to get an headache on a thursday morning..

drss2:
anoda sponsored article of bad bellerism.
isn't it funy dat pipul who ar not from south south who hates GEJ, a niger delta son ar telling niger deltans dat they ar better off with dis cesspit called nigeria dan bia..fra wat a joke.
dat d writter even make claims about bia..frans dominating d rest of niger deltans in case of bia..fran independence like wat happened in the north with d fulani domination of hausa lands in d 18th century is anoda cofirmation dat dis writter is an addent follower of buari's daura govt.
for d records, south east pipul do not have d ideology of kill, dominate n conquer born to rule mentality like fulanis up north. neither do we have extremist views on religion or culture to force on anyone's throat. bia...frans ar liberals who believe in tenets of fair play, rule of law n democratic principles.
d writter of dis daura article should take his lamentations to sambisa forest.

Tackle the open question and leave sentiments. Smh

thedarkside:


was it you i meant..??

i realy dont remember..

i didnt went back to read the comments...

i dont want to get an headache on a thursday morning..

Chei

See am...just dey play innocent

See how you dey do your partner in crime...you are wicked ooo.
Even after he cheerleaded you throughout this thread...na so you do am...You are wicked ooo

Remember the code. Remember the code

Nwogeh:




Igbos want SS not because of oil per se but population n access to sea is the highest truth I have heard abt Biafra struggle. You just said it all, igbos can always survive other wise we would not be enjoying the best standard of living we are enjoying now in Nigeria going by the precedence n scheme of things in naija.

i said it already..
nigeria is like el dorado for igbos...

you come from your village in the east and in weeks you are already running your own business..

i saw this happen many times...

pazienza:
1. Biafra proposes a form of government where each province will have total control of her resources and only contribute to the centre.
In Biafra, smaller groups like Oron, Eket, Andoni can unite and have their own province with full resource control and pay tax to the central government.
There won't be any land use decree.
IPOB had stressed on this times without number. Even Ojukwu Biafra was divided into provinces,with non Igbo speaking tribes having their own distinct provinces with indigenous administrators.
You need nobody to checkmate Igbos under such arrangement.
And moreover, naturally, Igbos exist in clans that do checkmate each other, there have never in history been a period when Igbo groups United to conquer a non Igbo speaking people.

2. Why should the capital location be an issue, since it's not going to be a case where people were milked dry so that FG can go build up Lagos and Abuja?
It will be all province for themselves.
We can apply the three capital system of RSA. The legislative in one Province, the judiciary will be hosted by another province and the Executive by another, all these can be negotiated.

3. This is totally irrelevant. Truth remains that Ndiigbo had never annexed non Igbo lands in the past. Arochukwu was only one that was annexed, but when you factor in the fact that Arochukwu was won by a union of Aro, Ibibio and Akpa( Ekoid) people, then it could hardly be termed annexation.
Ndiigbo are not empire builders. Annexation and expansionism is not our trait. We are republicans by nature.
No Nigerian state government was ever going to approve being part of Biafra, even. Enugu state government denied Biafra. So citing Delta state government response is quite irrelevant to the issue of Biafra. Nobody expected any different response. But IPOB and their Biafran ideology is well received by the commoners in Enu ani, which is why Asaba is an IPOB stronghold.

4. This again is a trivial matter. Each province will have their own language and English as their official language.
English will remain the lingua franca.
But this is quite funny. You are scared of an Igbo national language, but comfortable with an English non African lingual franca.

The scenario you painted of someone being denied position because of ethnicity will not happen with the structure Biafra intends to run on. The provinces will be stronger and more lucrative than the centre. It won't be the case of Nigeria.
Moreover, I personally don't subscribe to a Biafra with Ijaw, Edo and Edoids( Urhobo, Itsekiri, Isoko), when I think of Biafra, I think of Igbo, Igboids and AkwaCross, cos these are people we share similar ideologies with.

Infact, I'm only replying you because you stated that you are from AkwaCross area .
So my use of Biafra during the course of my reply represents strictly Igbo, Igboid and AkwaCross and maybe Ogoni.

5. Igbos are often the subject of caustic attacks by those groups you mentioned, which I personally don't consider part of Biafra.
Go to Ijaw facebook pages, Radio Niger Delta, and even here in NL and see the amount of hatred towards Ndiigbo emanating from those quarters.
How many times have you seen Igbos hurl insults at AkwaCross people? Rarely. Why? Because you hardly get Igbophobia in AkwaCross area. AkwaCross people are all over Aba, they understand the Igboman and the Igbo man understand them, they don't show us hate, and in return we don't show them hate.

This generation Of Ndiigbo know better. We will not allow Igbophobic elements whether from
Ijaw, Edo, Edoids or Yoruba go unpunished. We will reply them with so much hate that even lucifer will marvel. Actions must be met with reactions.
So, if you think we are hurling insults at those children of hate, then you are John snow, cos what you are seeing is only just the beginning.
Peeps must be forced to learn that Igbophobia will not be tolerated by Ndiigbo, simple.
I have no intent of sharing Biafra with those people, it's only natural that they stick to their Arewa masters, you know what they say of birds of same feather.

6. Again Nnamdi had made it clear he has no political ambitions in Biafra. Even if he does, the kind of structure Biafra intends to run on will make the centre only ceremonial, it won't be same all powerful Nigerian president.
Ndiigbo had no problem with Obong of Calabar rulling the Eastern region house of Chiefs ahead of Eze Nri , Eze aro, Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Nnewi, etc. We had no problem with Eyo ita ruling the Eastern region , Adaka was voted by Ndiigbo in UNN as the SUG president, we voted a Fulani as the first Mayor of Enugu, we all voted an Ogbia man, GEJ and stood by him when all abandoned him even Ijaw men like Clark abandoned him since.

We are more than capable of voting non Igbos.
By the way, remove Urhobo here, I don't consider them part of Biafra.

7. How exactly are Igbo leaders the most corrupt in the country? What did you smoke?

Are thieves like Ibori, Amaechi, Silva, Abacha, Obj, IBB Igbos? Please don't provoke me with this Igbophobic statement, cause you won't like the outcome.

Biafra will be structured in such a way that government will be too close to the people. No more Abuja jamboree, that alone will curb the excesses of the politicians. They will be under closer scrutiny by their people,and since each province is going to be ran by what they produce, it will force leaders to think outside the box.
The abrogation of the dubious Obj created land use decree will hand the lands back to the natives and the government must serve the owners of the land and not the other way round. All these will change the political orientation and task leaders to be more productive and transparent to earn the people support and trust.

8. Again stop dragging Edoids and Ijaws into this. You gave the impression that you are from AkwaCross area, but so far, you keep raising issues about the Edoids.
Not once have you made mention of the Oron struggle for independence , Obolo and Ibeno struggle for total control of Akwa Ibom coastline wealth, the Ekoid land disputes with Ikwo and Ezza clans of Igbo, the land disputes between Ndokis and Ibibios, these are real issues surrounding the AkwaCross Igbo relationship, instead you are focused on issues occurring in distant non related lands.
Don't give me the impression that you are an impostor claiming AkwaCross.

As for your question on utopia. Biafra will have the richest of human resources in Africa, it will have access to enormous natural gas deposits in Imo and Anambra, Coal in Enugu, crude oil reserves in Imo, Anambra, Ndoki, Etche, Asa. As well as those in AkwaCross area if you guys decide to join the party.
It will also have an enormous patriotic diaspora population spread all over the world ready to come and invest home as well as attract foreign investors, as the Biafran government will create the enabling environment for business to thrive.
The possibilities are endless.
Keeping the country peaceful is equally part of why I don't fancy having the Edoids and Ijaws in the Biafra, as doing that will unbalance things and create chaos.

9. That is just a proposal. I don't consider Itsekiri and Urhobo parts of Biafra, any body that put then on the Biafran map is merely fishing for their reactions.

We don't share same life ideology with those people. I see no basis for unity with them. We can't be running away from a mad house( Nigeria), only to end up creating another mad house in Biafra by inviting bitter people with whom we share little with to form a nation.

When you know you are going to be running your province with whatever you produce, and that there won't be monthly allocation coming from Abuja, you wouldn't be bothered about those creating 1 million provinces for themselves, since they would have to run them with their own resources and not yours.

That's the great thing about the Biafran proposed structure. It eliminates the things that turned Nigeria into a failure.

10. Biafra is not going to be a parasitic state, so there won't be any need forcing any unwilling group into it.
If an ethnic group within the proposed Biafran area votes against Biafra , then they are free to go their way. It's as free as that.

As for electoral manipulation, you can't rig where you are not popular, it will cause chaos. IPOB is too resolute and more than capable of securing the votes and ensuring no such manipulation occur.
The Biafran structure will take care of Igbophobia, by first ensuring that overwhelmingly Igbophobic elements as found in Ijaw, Edo, Edoids don't become part of Biafra.

The total resource control to the provinces and decentralization of the government, that will create will a very weak centre and strong regions will eliminate the. thoughts of phantom Igbo hegemony that exist only in people's mind.

NB: I personally subscribe to an Igbo speaking only Biafra first and foremost, but not aversed to a Union of Igbo speaking people, Akwa Cross( with Andoni of course) and maybe Ogoni too.

Forgive my quoting ur whole epistle. I read it twice with so much interest. It is obvious u have ur information well and solid. U started well but finished badly, giving ur readers the impression that u are tribalistic like most common yorubas. I say this cos I grew up with yorubas from my mums part of the equation so I know, though my dad is igbo.
The structure u built was interesting, it gave quite a picture but there are still buts. Like u ruled out the edos and Urobos but failed to about the deltans (anioma, ndukwa e.t.c). They too don't agree to be igbos though share lots of similar culture with igbos.
Anyway we will still watch and see but if am allowed my opinion I was say and still insist that I still find no seriousness aming the ipob group. Till a time they get serious their numbers could swell.

thedarkside:


you are insane..

i think this thread made you loose it completly..

now i start remembering..

a ipobian said afonja..
and i said his father is a afonja too...

i dont remember who...
and i am not going back to read who it was...

Now he started remembering all of a sudden

And he did as I said...blamed it on IPOB.

Finally he remembers the code....bigots gotta stick together

; D

drnoel:


Forgive my quoting ur whole epistle. I read it twice with so much interest. It is obvious u have ur information well and solid. U started well but finished badly, giving ur readers the impression that u are tribalistic like most common yorubas. I say this cos I grew up with yorubas from my mums part of the equation so I know, though my dad is igbo.
The structure u built was interesting, it gave quite a picture but there are still buts. Like u ruled out the edos and Urobos but failed to about the deltans (anioma, ndukwa e.t.c). They too don't agree to be igbos though share lots of similar culture with igbos.
Anyway we will still watch and see but if am allowed my opinion I was say and still insist that I still find no seriousness aming the ipob group. Till a time they get serious their numbers could swell.

WTF is with you animals always dragging anioma in whatever BS you lots what to screech.

Wth is you people problem?

When the hell did we make you lots our speaker?
Can we have a day without having to deal with you diseased rats trying to create a conflict between anioma and SE.

When did we make you rats our voice that's what I want to know

urhobo beat igbos 1:0...

kii... ..

Ikechu101:


Now he started remembering all of a sudden

And he did as I said...blamed it on IPOB.

Finally he remembers the code....bigots gotta stick together

; D

you lost it...seriously....

Ikechu101:


WTF is with you animals always dragging anioma in whatever BS you lots what to screech.

Wth is you people problem?

When the hell did we make you lots our speaker?
Can we have a day without having to deal with you diseased rats trying to create a conflict between anioma and SE.

When did we make you rats our voice that's what I want to know

ohhh my..

someone is pissed off...

thedarkside:


you lost it...seriously....

Instead of thanking me for assisting him in not leaving his partner in crime hanging, he's here screeching...I bet you na ipob cause am too. Have you blame ipob yet?

Ikechu101:


Instead of thanking me for assisting him in not leaving his partner in crime hanging, he's here screeching...I bet you na ipob cause am too. Have you blame ipob yet?

calm down..

ohhhhh my...

wetin i do you??..

did i stole your lolly?...

thedarkside:


ohhh my..

someone is pissed off...

Yes I'm pissed off. You animals need to stop dragging anioma to your BS.

[size=18pt]We no send una!![/size]

thedarkside:
urhobo beat igbos 1:0...
kii... ..

and math001 ran away and deactivated

thedarkside:


calm down..

ohhhhh my...

wetin i do you??..

did i stole your lolly?...

Just ask ipob.
Have you blamed ipob yet?

GMbuharii:


standing victorious with his foot upon the fallen cracked head of the enemies is
03xtr09r
math001 was squarely flogged he had to deactivate his account..lols
the other busybody mallam has laudated himself back to zamfara..
Op,we niger deltans and ipob are one and together.

sooo..na mathy una wan wake up again??..

kikiki...

its clear to the rest of nigeria that ipob clearly lost this..

but whatever..think what you want..

just dont come into the delta..
you are not welcomed...

Ikechu101:


Just ask ipob.
Have you blamed ipob yet?

thunda fire ipob and kanu cooling off in prison..

kii.. ...

happy now..??

GMbuharii:

and math001 ran away and deactivated

you people are obsessed with mathy..

he realy spanked you guys badly...

Ikechu101:


Yes I'm pissed off. You animals need to stop dragging anioma to your BS.

[size=18pt]We no send una!![/size]

now you lost me.....

i never mentioned anioma...
i dont even have contact with this tribe...

what are you talking abut..

the guy was saying,aniomas dont feel like igbos according to what he knows...thats all...

you are even the first anioma i communicated with till now sef...

soo..

ndoeyopbennet:


Obviously, the map your people have released have made it my matter. Akwa Ibom is included in the map, Ibibioland is included there. I am a full blooded Ibibio man from Ukanafun so by that logic, I am included in the map. Please address my issues if you can.

Mr Man, i put it to you that you are not from Akwa ibom because if you are really from there you will know UKANAFUN is ANNANG and not IBIBIO.

I put it to you that you are an afonja that served in Akwa ibom as a youth corp member or you worked there.

thedarkside:

you people are obsessed with mathy..
he realy spanked you guys badly...

and he ran away and deactivated his beaten account,what shame lols

drss2:
anoda sponsored article of bad bellerism.
isn't it funy dat pipul who ar not from south south who hates GEJ, a niger delta son ar telling niger deltans dat they ar better off with dis cesspit called nigeria dan bia..fra wat a joke.
dat d writter even make claims about bia..frans dominating d rest of niger deltans in case of bia..fran independence like wat happened in the north with d fulani domination of hausa lands in d 18th century is anoda cofirmation dat dis writter is an addent follower of buari's daura govt.
for d records, south east pipul do not have d ideology of kill, dominate n conquer born to rule mentality like fulanis up north. neither do we have extremist views on religion or culture to force on anyone's throat. bia...frans ar liberals who believe in tenets of fair play, rule of law n democratic principles.
d writter of dis daura article should take his lamentations to sambisa forest.

The stupid OP claim to be from Ukanafun in Akwa ibom without knowing Ukanafun is an Annang town and not Ibibio. that alone should tell us that the OP is an Afonja.

drnoel:


Forgive my quoting ur whole epistle. I read it twice with so much interest. It is obvious u have ur information well and solid. U started well but finished badly, giving ur readers the impression that u are tribalistic like most common yorubas. I say this cos I grew up with yorubas from my mums part of the equation so I know, though my dad is igbo.
The structure u built was interesting, it gave quite a picture but there are still buts. Like u ruled out the edos and Urobos but failed to about the deltans (anioma, ndukwa e.t.c). They too don't agree to be igbos though share lots of similar culture with igbos.
Anyway we will still watch and see but if am allowed my opinion I was say and still insist that I still find no seriousness aming the ipob group. Till a time they get serious their numbers could swell.

Igbo denials are mainly in Ika and Ukwuani area.
Yet there are strong Igbo nationalists from Ukwuani and Ika. The admin of proudly Anioma, Proudly Igbo facebook page is an Ukwuani person. Osita Mordi, whose many Articles on Ndiigbo I had posted on this forum is also an Ika that is strongly pro Igbo.

A referendum will be conducted to determine the final stand of Ika, Ukwuani and other Igboids in River and Edo.

If in the end they chose to go with the Igbophobic elements in ND, then good for them. After all, not all German speaking people are part of Germany. The Swiss, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, Austrians are all German speaking people, yet are not part of the Great Germany.
It's no big deal to me.

I have the feeling that what Ukwuani and Ika crave is distinct identity from the SE, if we can guarantee them that in Biafra, alongside total autonomy and resource control, I think they will come around.

I don't know about my being tribalist part. I just know that I'm rabidly Igbophilic and show total hate and disdain to any Igbophobic group or persons. Does that make me a tribalist? You be the judge.

thedarkside:



sooo..na mathy una wan wake up again??..

kikiki...

its clear to the rest of nigeria that ipob clearly lost this..

but whatever..think what you want..

just dont come into the delta..
you are not welcomed...

me is Delta and we know what to do to impostors like u pretending to be southerners..

Op,niger delta and ipob are brothers..

Olu20090:


Afonjas claiming Akwa Ibom. This people need help...go and focus on your Oduo Republic and stop worrying about our own struggle. I have never seen a people like this before in my life.

Exactly, he is an Afonja, imagine he claiming to be an ukanafun man in akwa ibom without knowing that Ukanafun is Annang and not Ibibio that is to tell you how gullible Afonja's can be.

GMbuharii:


and he ran away and deactivated his beaten account,what shame lols

what?,?..

he deactivated because of una,you say?..

ohhhh my....

okay..we will give you some slack...

we bashed you peoples mercilessly...

make una play...enjoy..

you like to hang around us like mosquitos anyways..

dragonking3:
My friend keep shut!!

Are you guys not the ones forcing everyone from left right and centre to join biafra? Better take your time o as I don't wanna get cocky with you this morning.

https://www.nairaland.com/3481903/ipob-lists-6-states-join#51313465

ehn, that was before. Right now, we don want una. Case close...
And how do you mean by "get cocky" are you gay Inapu utele If you are, pls, keep off from me, cuz I'll put a bullet on ya head.