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brocab:
I find even in your own teachings, theirs is a large twist, how God is described.
You can't seem to get your head around "Who is, who was, and who is to come, you are either reading the Watchtower magazines and receiving your teachings from them, Or you have gone after your own.
You believe God is a person? "But you don't believe He came Hear as a Man. You believe No-one had seen God at anytime-but you don't believe Jesus was seen and lived among us as both Man and God.
You had actually described God coming to Earth as a person, but you don't recognise who He is. You have read God created all things in the universe, but you don't believe Jesus created all things in the universe.
You believe their is only one Father but you don't believe Jesus said He and His Father are One the same {John 10:30} I and the Father are One.
The Jews knew exactly what Jesus had said, look at their evidence they wanted to stone Him. But a question for you is, was Jesus lying?
You had described God as Jesus coming to earth {Colossians 1:16} All things were created through Him, and for Him..Jesus created everything that was created.
Which of course you can't believe Jesus is coming in the clouds 'that every eye will see Him, but you can believe God is coming in the clouds 'and every eye will see Him.
{Acts 1:9} After He had said this He {Jesus} was taken up before their eye's and a cloud hid Him.
You say this is God in {Revelation 1:7-8} Every eye will see Him coming. Same God said no-one has seen Him at any time?
{Acts 1:10-11} They were looking intently into the shy as He was going up, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. Men of Galilee they said; why do you stand there looking into the sky? This same Jesus who had been taken from you into heaven, will come back the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.
{Mark 16:19, } Says it all who was taken up into the clouds and who's returning the same way.
And let me say Jesus hasn't made His final leap yet, His time is still to come.

dolphinheart:
EVERYONE CAN SEE YOUR DECEPTIVE TACTICS, YOU LEAVE THE POST DIRECTED TO YOU AND QUOTE THE POST DIRECTED TO OTHERS, SAME TACTICS USED BY THE OTHERS PERSON. AND EVEN WHEN YOU QUOTE THE POST YOU FAIL TO RESPOND TO THE ISSUES, QUESTIONS AND SCRIPTURES FOUND THEIR.
well ,since the post posted to you has exposed your false doctrine, the best next thing is to leave it alone, cus quoting it will only expose you further!


there are no twists, large or small.


I've used the scriptures to Identify to you him who is who was and who is coming, you could not refute what I showed you, neither could you qoute and explain those scriptures I used.


sir, the scriptures say no one has seen God at any time, but people saw Jesus, therefore Jesus is not the God no one has seen at anytime.
If you had taken time to read that verse to the end , you would have noticed that Jesus is not the God who was being mentioned their.
try to quote that verse fully next time, it will help.



hope you have read heb 1:1,2, read it and learn!


the bold is a lie!, the verse never said so!

What evidence, the one based on wrong understanding of what jesus said?
Jesus did not lie, it's you that is lying againSt jesus, calling him what he did not call himself
did Jesus call himself God ? no ! he said

Joh 10:36[u]do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world,[/u] ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?[/u]

YOU REFUSED TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS CALLED HIMSELF, WHO THE ANGEL TOLD MARY THAT JESUS IS, YOU REFUSED TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT THE FATHER, YOU PREFER CALLING JESUS THE FATHER!

[b]Joh 5:20[u]For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him all the things he himself does,[/u] and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.

Joh 14:28You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.

Joh 10:25Jesus answered them: “I told you, and yet you do not believe. The works that I am doing in my Father’s name, these bear witness about me.

YOU PREFER TO BELIEVE THE PHARISEES, CUS THEIR BELIEVES RHYMES WITH YOURS, YOU REFUSED TO LISTEN TO WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT THAT BELIEVE

Joh 5:46In fact, if you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.

what did Moses write about Jesus, did he say Jesus is God?no , did he say God himself is the one coming? no .

Moses said:

De 18:15Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him.

Lu 24:44He then said to them: “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written about me in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms must be fulfilled.”

Joh 1:45Philip found Na·thanʹa·el and said to him: “We have found the one of whom Moses, in the Law, and the Prophets wrote: Jesus, the son of Joseph, from Nazʹa·reth.”


you are a liar brocab, no wonder you could not quote where I made such description.
you refused to quote that verse, probably because quoting it will prevent you from twisting it. The previous verse has clarified who god is
King James Version
Col 1:3We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,



stop lying againSt me brocab!


you are a liar brocab , the lies has eating deep into you. This is what I said :

the verse (rev 1: is talking about God, the Father, the almighty, the most high! and below is what the verse said :
New International Version
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

English Standard Version
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

BROCAB, YOU HAVE PERFECTED THE ACT OF NOT QUOTING MY POSTS SO THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO LIE, STATING THAT I SAID AND BELIEVED THINGS I DID NOT SAY OR IMPLY.

THE ABOVE IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU REFUSED TO RESPOND TO THE POSTS IN WHICH MY EXPLAINATIONS ON REV 1: 1,4-8 REV 3: 2:12 AND HEB 1:9 IS GIVING.



the scripture has told you the truth brocab, stop twisting it !

johnw74:
Lie Lie dolphinheart

Last time I done a search for lazy antichrist dolphinheart,
he then denied it for many posts, saying one lie after another,
page after page, even though I gave the link to him saying it,
false jw twisted and lied about what he said.

I have to admit false jw's are good at one thing:
using every means known to lie, twisting what is said, taking away from what is said, adding to what is said, etc, etc.


false jw dolphinheart said about God and the Word:

dolphinheart:

Ohiozoje:
jehovah witness my foot. keep your filthy religion to yourself. don't come to my door step. why can't people keep their religion to their-self. why must you convert people. who told them people are not save without jesus.

solite3:
Jehovah witness cannot defend their teachings

I have not seen a witness that could stand up and defend their ideology.
what is happening?
Dolphinheart has exhusted his/her lies
Catholics are more united than witnesses plus they have more members, more organised and engage in more humanitarian services. Jehovah witness do not even come close.

achorladey:
Ask him yourself. I am very sure he will give you a reply to your question.

achorladey:
Ask him yourself. I am very sure he will give you a reply to your question.

achorladey:
Jesus(the Almighty God) didn't come to reveal himself as Almighty God his mission was to come as a servant to do his Almighty God's will. Do you know that once the Almighty God becomes a servant he needs help?
Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
How well do you understand the phrase 'his Almighty God' s will'?

achorladey:
You have repeated the statement again 'supported their thinking'. Do the pharisee believe Jesus was equal to God. (Yes/No) What understanding do the pharisee have about Jesus? Maybe I can get you clearly.

dolphinheart:
EVERYONE CAN SEE YOUR DECEPTIVE TACTICS, YOU LEAVE THE POST DIRECTED TO YOU AND QUOTE THE POST DIRECTED TO OTHERS, SAME TACTICS USED BY THE OTHERS PERSON. AND EVEN WHEN YOU QUOTE THE POST YOU FAIL TO RESPOND TO THE ISSUES, QUESTIONS AND SCRIPTURES FOUND THEIR.
well ,since the post posted to you has exposed your false doctrine, the best next thing is to leave it alone, cus quoting it will only expose you further!


there are no twists, large or small.


I've used the scriptures to Identify to you him who is who was and who is coming, you could not refute what I showed you, neither could you qoute and explain those scriptures I used.


sir, the scriptures say no one has seen God at any time, but people saw Jesus, therefore Jesus is not the God no one has seen at anytime.
If you had taken time to read that verse to the end , you would have noticed that Jesus is not the God who was being mentioned their.
try to quote that verse fully next time, it will help.



hope you have read heb 1:1,2, read it and learn!


the bold is a lie!, the verse never said so!

What evidence, the one based on wrong understanding of what jesus said?
Jesus did not lie, it's you that is lying againSt jesus, calling him what he did not call himself
did Jesus call himself God ? no ! he said

Joh 10:36[u]do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world,[/u] ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?[/u]

YOU REFUSED TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS CALLED HIMSELF, WHO THE ANGEL TOLD MARY THAT JESUS IS, YOU REFUSED TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT THE FATHER, YOU PREFER CALLING JESUS THE FATHER!

[b]Joh 5:20[u]For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him all the things he himself does,[/u] and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.

Joh 14:28You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.

Joh 10:25Jesus answered them: “I told you, and yet you do not believe. The works that I am doing in my Father’s name, these bear witness about me.

YOU PREFER TO BELIEVE THE PHARISEES, CUS THEIR BELIEVES RHYMES WITH YOURS, YOU REFUSED TO LISTEN TO WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT THAT BELIEVE

Joh 5:46In fact, if you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.

what did Moses write about Jesus, did he say Jesus is God?no , did he say God himself is the one coming? no .

Moses said:

De 18:15Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him.

Lu 24:44He then said to them: “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written about me in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms must be fulfilled.”

Joh 1:45Philip found Na·thanʹa·el and said to him: “We have found the one of whom Moses, in the Law, and the Prophets wrote: Jesus, the son of Joseph, from Nazʹa·reth.”


you are a liar brocab, no wonder you could not quote where I made such description.
you refused to quote that verse, probably because quoting it will prevent you from twisting it. The previous verse has clarified who god is
King James Version
Col 1:3We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,



stop lying againSt me brocab!


you are a liar brocab , the lies has eating deep into you. This is what I said :

the verse (rev 1: is talking about God, the Father, the almighty, the most high! and below is what the verse said :
New International Version
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

English Standard Version
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

BROCAB, YOU HAVE PERFECTED THE ACT OF NOT QUOTING MY POSTS SO THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO LIE, STATING THAT I SAID AND BELIEVED THINGS I DID NOT SAY OR IMPLY.

THE ABOVE IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU REFUSED TO RESPOND TO THE POSTS IN WHICH MY EXPLAINATIONS ON REV 1: 1,4-8 REV 3: 2:12 AND HEB 1:9 IS GIVING.



the scripture has told you the truth brocab, stop twisting it !

Sarang:
There is only one God Jehovah
John 17:3 Jesus himself called him the only true God.

Dolphin is right

Sarang:
They didn't neither did Jesus. He never said he is equal to God

Sarang:
Jesus is not the almighty. Stop putting words into his mouth. He never said he is.

Sarang:
Jesus is not the almighty. Stop putting words into his mouth. He never said he is.

Sarang:
You are right about population but unity? nah.

I asked a member here if they did christ the king,alas! She does not even know what means.

Sarang:
Because in as much you hate them,they love you.

brocab:
Leave achorladey alone he/she is learning from darkness into the light.

Sarang:
And you don't know,Jesus can not make a leap without Jehovah's approval.

Unlike Satan, Jesus know who Jehovah really is and willing to obey.

achorladey:
URGENT!!! URGENT!!! URGENT!!!
Brocab is not my spokesman. Speak for yourself dont speak for me.

brocab:
If you truly believe you are Christian, then be proud another Christian is supporting you.

dolphinheart:
I've said I will handle the scriptures you feel are omitted, removed or altered one by one, I've checked Matthew 17:21, it has been discovered that it's the key that's at fault. I've given you what is said about that verse while you have not been able to give any explanation in defence of the kjv.

If you have no evidence to present concerning Matthew 17:21 , but still feel their are other verses you have issues with, plus present one of them ,we will be handling them one by one. so I will wait if you will put up another verse to claim it's been omitted.


haha, I know it pains you that you can find the name of God in your bible, but there is nothing you can do about it, you can refuse to quote that verse , but it is there. moreover, whichever translation I use, as long as it exposes your false beliefs, you will have issues with it, you are now finding fault in my use of the kjv to expose you.


yes, because in this case, the kjv did not translate correctly(read the prove given by the scholars)


where was the 1611 bible copied from?. One good thing about how Christians handle knowledge is that if their find some things to be false , they leave it!, more and more translators and scholars are finding out that the kjv contain some false translations, or contain additions made by scribes who copied the manuscripts.


Google is your friend


1. support your statement with prove
2. You don't need to be a christian to examine the authenticity of certain manuscripts , he might not have faith in what it says, that does not mean he cannot spot a false addition.
I might not know french, but I surely know if a word is written in blue or red ink!
he has checked the older manuscripts and came to the same conclusion other Christians (some who believe in trinity have)


thank you.

you have a right to say so, you have a right not to believe the truth supported with facts.


Brocab, when one person or group of persons bring a translation out and claim it's accurate, and another person or group brings another translation out ,also claiming it's accurate. You look at the two translations and you find that in some verses, what is written is totally different, what should a sensible person who searches for the truth, blindly believe one over the other or try and search for which one is accurate and which one is false.

I do not believe everything this scholars says, but I do try to look deeper into their conclusions to arrive at my own conclusion.
If you feel that what one of them says is false simply because he is not a christian, then it shows how deep your refusal to accept truth is.
I believe you are educated, do you disagree with what you are taught simply because the teacher does not believe in what he or she is teaching you?
moreover, I quoted more than one scholar, who hold the same view, are all of them atheist!

achorladey:
You want me to allign with an individual that cannot reason well. Oga answer all the questions addressed to you. As for the support, no think am at all.

Sarang:
Even calling someone a lier without proof is lying

brocab:
I have but you don't understand the truth about Christ-nor do you understand the bible-this is why you feel I haven't answered your questions, because you believe in another doctrine, a doctrine that only you could understand it.

dolphinheart:
You can continue as long as you want to deny your bible, refusing to quote that verse even after numerous requests have been made to you to quote it.
Most people know what psalms 83: 18 says, it tells us that God's name is Jehovah!

dolphinheart:
good you agreed that Satan is a god, a "thoes".

achorladey:
Are you sure? It will be better you go back and check through all the questions raised so far.

dolphinheart:
does he agree with you that proverbs 8 :22- 30 is referring to Jesus?, if no is the answer, have you tried to tell him the truth? if you have tried to tell him the truth, has he accepted?

I'm not talking about jesus is God in the flesh, I'm talking about proverbs 8 :22-30 .

Sarang:
Even calling someone a lier without proof is lying

Sarang:
To his disciples Jesus is also a Stronger,a master and it is not unusual if they refer to him as our lord. Jesus is mighty in power too..
But no where in the bible was he referred to as the ALMIGHTY. Jehovah is almighty ALONE.

Sarang:
Literally it is impossible to be someone and be with that person. No two people are one. The idea itself is preposterous. And Jesus knows that.