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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Mimzyy(f): 10:34pm On Nov 27, 2016
SalomonKane:
Isn't it funny?.
Dear, I don't find it funny at all.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by joseph1832(m): 10:34pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
We officially have a "God" of Nairaland.

If nairaland could have over twenty rules, it makes me wonder how this complex universe could operate on so many principles and laws, yet without a designer... grin grin grin
Still you've felt the whip lash of the 'God' of Nairaland countless times.

Now, have you felt the whip lash of the designer of the universe?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by ephi123(f): 10:35pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:
Let us all calm down. Damogul cannot be banned. How do you ban someone with so many accounts here?
I am not a soothsayer so cannot say which other account(s) damogul has. It is only fair that his known moniker used to create the other thread be allowed to finish what it started.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(op): 10:36pm On Nov 27, 2016
Mimzyy:
I'll speak type for myself 'cos I don't know the motive(s) of others. When I came across your thread, I found myself glued from the beginning to the point where u stopped the story. I followed keenly cos I believed everything you posted . Matter of fact, that's why I followed you 'cos you sounded so intelligent and mature.

It came to me as a rude shock when threads began to surface debunking some parts of your story. Damogul's thread piqued my interest and I was keenly watching 'cos I wanted to see truths revealed. I follow Se.un, so it was very easy for me to know when he closed the thread and I just cant help but wonder WHY?? If anybody breaks a rule, why not ban the person instead of outrightly closing the thread? I think nairalanders deserve to know the truth so it is only fair for him to allow people come out and say whatever they know and not just silencing them with bans.
So if you have been following, why have you failed to see many confirmations of the story?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Mimzyy(f): 10:36pm On Nov 27, 2016
SirWere:
Hey, hey, calm down. Hold your horses.

Damogul's thread was a nightmare.

41 pages with just a few investigations going on; the other theists were just running up and down the place screaming LIAR!! With alternate accounts.

Although; I do not support the locking down of that thread.
Neither do I agree with the banning of damogul.

But seriously; theists have been screaming Blue murder since with not one of them man enough to take up the task of actually unravelling his supposed lies.

damogul's thread was NOT going to die a natural death; anyone who's stayed for a while in the religious section know folks tend to suck up a lot to threads like that.
We are on the same page as regards the emboldened...
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 10:38pm On Nov 27, 2016
joseph1832:
Still you've felt the whip lash of the 'God' of Nairaland countless times.

Now, have you felt the whip lash of the designer of the universe?
If the Designer of the universe was anything like the 'God' of Nairaland, maybe the 'God' of Nairaland wouldn't even be alive to play 'God'.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Seun(mod): 10:39pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Nobody deconverted from Christianity grin grin grin .
joseph1832:
Are you sure anyone converted? Fine, I know many Nigerians are gullible, but heck, converting because of the testimony of someone you don't know.

Come on...
Well, it's their primary concern. I have to address it whether or not I think it's realistic. In their defence, testimonies are surprisingly powerful.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by joseph1832(m): 10:39pm On Nov 27, 2016
Mimzyy:
Dear, I don't find it funny at all.
Well, I believe the amount of logic and reason I witnessed in this thread by many is hypocritical.

They can use logic and reason to call out a man's lies, but fail to use the same logic and reason to call out their pastor's lies.

Doesn't that reek of massive double standard?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by KingEbukaNaija: 10:40pm On Nov 27, 2016
Ferruccio:
[size=16]Lol. The other thread has been shut down, and this one is still alive and kicking!

The best way to deal with Sean is deactivating your accounts one by one. Let him remain in this pitiful forum by himself, and his sidekick Mirror. Clearly, he's taking y'all for granted![/size]
Lol . Nobody became an atheist after this thread . So no biggie grin grin

We are expecting winner01 anytime from now for the next round of attacks . cool cool
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 10:40pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:
You mean stealing peoples question and taking the center stage as if he was the one who asked the question?
C'mon, you can do better.

Just how analice07 kept insisting she had evidences that I was never a student of futa. 3 days now she has failed to present any of the evidences. They are all the same. Noise makers
At least he's able to arrange the statements from Howmon and Other CaCF members well. He actually gave a damn and had a whatsapp chat with Howmon and the other said fellowship members.

I followed the thread keenly; from the first thread created by hopefulLandlord to the one he created.

He is not such a stellar questionnaire but compared with the other theists who just want to shout and claim facts (analice; sadly, being a case in point) he's Sherlock Holmes.






Well; Seun, you've banned damogul.
Care to continue with HardMirror's cross investigationhuh
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by joseph1832(m): 10:41pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
If the Designer of the universe was anything like the 'God' of Nairaland, maybe the 'God' of Nairaland wouldn't even be alive to play 'God'.
Well isn't that why the designer of the universe is docile? So much that he allow men play god?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Mimzyy(f): 10:42pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:
So if you have been following, why have you failed to see many confirmations of the story?
I'll be blunt. A part of your story was said to be a lie and you haven't even tried to debunk it with facts/evidence. I find that worrying. While that part is not the most important part of your story, it makes me question the authenticity of the rest of the story. You're the only person that can clear the airs. Of truly someone died and they have claimed that nobody died, then provide proof or something since you have repeatedly said that you still stand by your words that the said person truly died. It can't be that hard...
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(op): 10:43pm On Nov 27, 2016
SirWere:
At least he's able to arrange the statements from Howmon and Other CaCF members well. He actually gave a damn and had a whatsapp chat with Howmon and the other said fellowship members.

I followed the thread keenly; from the first thread created by hopefulLandlord to the one he created.

He is not such a stellar questionnaire but compared with the other theists who just want to shout and claim facts (analice; sadly, being a case in point) he's Sherlock Holmes.






Well; Seun, you've banned damogul.
Care to continue with HardMirror's cross investigationhuh
Don't worry, seun has done no damage. Damogul is amongst us now and commenting.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 10:44pm On Nov 27, 2016
Seun:
That's a very naive and disastrous idea. He has repeatedly shown us that he doesn't care about the rules. I hope he starts obeying them soon.
Well; the FSM help you; cause you're gonna have to handle a whole lot of turd from nairaland religious section....




In the intrests of keepung the investigation going; may I suggest that YOU take over and continue the cross-examination?
Keep in mind that we now have FUTARIANS who can corroborate or discredit hardmirror.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Mimzyy(f): 10:45pm On Nov 27, 2016
joseph1832:
Well, I believe the amount of logic and reason I witnessed in this thread by many is hypocritical.

They can use logic and reason to call out a man's lies, but fail to use the same logic and reason to call out their pastor's lies.

Doesn't that reek of massive double standard?
I agree. Especially our famous tbjoshua's blind followers but that's not the bone of contention here. If you were tagged as a liar for something you said and you have evidence at hand to prove that you didn't lie, would you provide it or not ?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(op): 10:45pm On Nov 27, 2016
Mimzyy:
I'll be blunt. A part of your story was said to be a lie and you haven't even tried to debunk it with facts/evidence. I find that worrying. While that part is not the most important part of your story, it makes me question the authenticity of the rest of the story. You're the only person that can clear the airs. Of truly someone died and they have claimed that nobody died, then provide proof or something since you have repeatedly said that you still stand by your words that the said person truly died. It can't be that hard...
What you choose to focus on. Probably what damogul has been doing too. You find facts supporting the story, you brush it away
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 10:45pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
If the Designer of the universe was anything like the 'God' of Nairaland, maybe the 'God' of Nairaland wouldn't even be alive to play 'God'.
make I hear... undecided
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 10:46pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Lol . Nobody became an atheist after this thread . So no biggie grin grin

We are expecting winner01 anytime from now for the next round of attacks . cool cool
Where is that winner dude; by the wayhuh
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by KingEbukaNaija:
Seun:
Well, it's their primary concern. I have to address it whether or not I think it's realistic. In their defence, testimonies are surprisingly powerful.
Realistic ? Lol . Its more of chimerical

This is Hardmirror on the last day

Matthew 7:22
22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

grin grin grin

And you have not replied me on THAT Thread . How far you na undecided You scared ? grin
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Mimzyy(f): 10:49pm On Nov 27, 2016
HardMirror:
What you choose to focus on. Probably what damogul has been doing too. You find facts supporting the story, you brush it away
You don't seem to understand my point/stance. It's fine.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by joseph1832(m): 10:49pm On Nov 27, 2016
Seun:
Well, it's their primary concern. I have to address it whether or not I think it's realistic. In their defence, testimonies are surprisingly powerful.
Times like this I love to quote that flawless quote by Damian Wayne. "Faith is belief base on the absence of data, and it invites disaster".
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 10:49pm On Nov 27, 2016
joseph1832:
Well isn't that why the designer of the universe is docile? So much that he allow men play god?
Maybe.....but one day, you will eat your very words.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by KingEbukaNaija: 10:50pm On Nov 27, 2016
SirWere:
Where is that winner dude; by the wayhuh
The same fate as damogul

But he is ready to come back stronger

I think you should be scared . wink
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by kevoh(m): 10:50pm On Nov 27, 2016
SirWere:
The rest of them are just ranting up and down.
..
GBAM! It's basically what I noticed. A thread has been opened by a mature theist to address the main issue but it has not gathered much viewership. Here's one of my comments on that thread:

GeneralTee:
I saw something about his reporting a brother died of fasting in 2010 and no one in FUTA being able to corroborate the story. And in one fell swoop his whole story is false.

OK. I'm relaying a story, reeling out lots of info and in an unorganized way, I very well can miss some details or relay a few from inadequate memory. It doesn't make my story untrue.

You guys will do a little more to prove he's a fraud that just little information slip. I really don't have the time to look up other lies. Pls paste the links here.
Don't lose sleep over those threads. The phrases I have ''bolded'' pretty sums up what all the noise is all about and leads nowhere than bunch of people throwing emotions everywhere. The underlying question(s)/points as posed/raised in this thread still remain unanswered and you can not wish them away over some information slip or fabricated lie by HardMirror [s]depending on which side of the divide one is[/s]. Here's some of such questions/points :

The man who gave us Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, is a raving atheist. But all of us religious people use his invention to promote our views. In my first interview with Edmund Obilo, he confessed on live Radio that he cannot remember when last he was in church. There is no better broadcaster than him in Ibadan. I remember approaching some senior citizens to invite them to attend my fellowship. They told me that religion sets people back. It deters their thinking. It doesn’t promote intellectualism. I just sat there watching.

You cannot sell signs, wonders and miracles to 21st century thinkers – it is just simply out of date. And my findings shows that even the God of the Bible has outdated miracles. Instead he has blessed man with such resounding knowledge that if my generation will spend less time at Redeem Camp and other prayer camps, we will find the cure to AIDS, Cancer and other debilitating diseases of our time. While at the same time adding to the science revolution and increase our nation’s gross productivity. Thereby creating jobs and wealth for the people. This is the type of work the gospel encourages; work that produces better feeding! He that will not work cannot eat!! Let us wake up. The atheists are challenging us.

I am not promoting atheism here. I am simply saying that Pentecostalism and many other religion that thrive on the subjective are adding nothing to science and modern thinkers have no time for such nonsense. I am also saying that the true Christian faith is highly intellectual. It appeals to the mind as it convinces the sinner of a need for a Savior.
Much emphasis on this particular phrase of yours : ''You cannot sell signs, wonders and miracles to 21st century thinkers – it is just simply out of date''.
Since all other threads have been closed, I will advice theists to go to that thread and address a pertinent issue raised by a theist.here's the link : https://www.nairaland.com/3482747/inviting-hardmirror-discission-christianity#51317934
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by KingEbukaNaija: 10:52pm On Nov 27, 2016
joseph1832:
Times like this I love to quote that flawless quote by Damian Wayne. "Faith is belief base on the absence of data, and it invites disaster".
Science says the universe has a beginning and a cause

The atheists say the universe is eternal IN THE ABSENCE OF DATA , isn't that faith ? Isn't their action inviting disaster ?

Isn't it delusion ?

Isn't it the atheist delusion ?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by joseph1832(m): 10:52pm On Nov 27, 2016
Mimzyy:
I agree. Especially our famous tbjoshua's blind followers but that's not the bone of contention here. If you were tagged as a liar for something you said and you have evidence at hand to prove that you didn't lie, would you provide it or not ?
My dear, it depends. If I want to provide such proof, I'll provide it to those who matter. Cos the foolish and the haters will never believe you, even if the proof is shoved up their ass.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 10:56pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
The same fate as damogul

But he is ready to come back stronger

I think you should be scared . wink
Scaredhuh Of whahuh Same old, same old. Fallacies and special pleadings as usualhuh Abeg swerve jorr angry
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by MrMontella(m): 10:56pm On Nov 27, 2016
so you guys later found out who damogul was on that thread? Lol...i found out in the early hours of today!
someone should update me oo... Any new inconsistensies? Or affirmations?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by KingEbukaNaija: 10:58pm On Nov 27, 2016
SirWere:
Scaredhuh Of whahuh Same old, same old. Fallacies and special pleadings as usualhuh Abeg swerve jorr angry
You atheists just quote random fallacies to appear smart grin grin grin . If you don't know what logical fallacies are please don't embarrass yourself , keep quiet cheesy cheesy
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Mimzyy(f): 10:59pm On Nov 27, 2016
joseph1832:
My dear, it depends. If I want to provide such proof, I'll provide it to those who matter. Cos the foolish and the haters will never believe you, even if the proof is shoved up their ass.
Exactly. Even if he doesn't wanna make it public, he can at least show se.un. But oh well, what do I know smiley. My bed keeps urging me to come on top of it smiley nanyt.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by joseph1832(m): 11:01pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Science says the universe has a beginning and a cause

The atheists say the universe is eternal IN THE ABSENCE OF DATA , isn't that faith ? Isn't their action inviting disaster ?

Isn't it delusion ?

Isn't it the atheist delusion ?
Still, the absence of data lead to disaster, be it scientist or atheist.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by joseph1832(m): 11:02pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
Maybe.....but one day, you will eat your very words.
Well if those peeps who make a misery out of the lives of people haven't eaten their words, I wonder how I'd eat mine? huh
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