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KingEbukasBlog:
Where in the bible did Jesus say that ?

promisechuks:
if you don't have better things to say, then STORM OUT.

ifenes:
Can you see why you will never be smart. You think being smart is forbidden. Just as the people misunderstood your boy Jesus, you will always misunderstand me too. I heard he said what he did you can do better. But this slave mentality is s big issue.

ifenes:
Can you see why you will never be smart. You think being smart is forbidden. Just as the people misunderstood your boy Jesus, you will always misunderstand me too. I heard he said what he did you can do better. But this slave mentality is s big issue.

ifenes:
So elude me next time yeah. Fix your mind and you will see that there is nothing outside of you. You will know that the Musician and his Song are one, the Painter and his paintings are one. A polluted mind can only reflect his mind. Let me say it in your language using god. A god and his world/ creation(s) are one. A perfect god creats a perfect world and imperfect god creates an imperfect world. Substitute god with mind, you will meet the holy grail. All the best!

KingEbukasBlog:
Revelations 21 : 3 - 6

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

foladara777:
Lemme spell it out for you... If I had a purpose to fulfill and I had all needed resources at my disposal, if there are alternative methods or processes to fulfill that purpose and one of those methods will cause misfortune to someone, I will choose the other method that does not require hurt to anyone, that's if am a good person... However, if the only way of achieving that purpose is by hurting someone, then am not omnipotent, because I can't achieve that purpose the way I like it I.e without hurting anyone...
So it's like this:
Could God have created this world without imperfections?? If your answer is yes, then he's not a good God
If your answer he is no then he's neither Almighty nor omnipotent...

4everGod:
Did you know i was a genius at age 13? I was given awards as a gifted child and it was in the national papers. I grew with that intelligence and yes i am smart but sometimes force myself to reason slower for the benefit of others (fact).

I do not read articles, i skim through them and every word is seen, read, understood and committed to memory and this sometimes scares me.

I know me so you do not have to talk to me about being smart. You always repeat this "slave mentality" language like its supposed to make you feel real good about yourself.

Focus on the OP and if you cannot mentally cope with that then move along instead of trying to spread your delusion around like a virus.

foladara777:
I don't see how this addresses the issues raised in my comment... Plsss can u explain??

promisechuks:
thank you!

though I don't go by all you said, but you made more sense than dishonest guys who claim EVERYTHING came from NOTHING.

promisechuks:
#delusion 1: intelligent design equals perfection.
who taught you this delusion. No insult intended please.

#delusion 2: all powerful, benevolent God equals perfection of earth creation.

please drop them, they don't work that way.

jonbellion:
why why why must you quote me
What was business in what I said
Did I refer it to you
Why are daft

KingEbukasBlog:
I expected you to read through and understand how it disproves your assertions .

NinjaX:
God probably drank all the water.

jonbellion:
you do know if there is a God
It does not PROVE the Abrahamic God
That's why there are Diests

KingEbukasBlog:
The human mind is finite , how can it be God

4everGod:
such blissful delusion

promisechuks:
WTH, with all your self acclaimed intelligence, will you come into a thread as thoughtful as this and start to scream "not again... ". what for?

is something wrong with your head? do you smoke weed?

ifenes:
But you will believe it if Jesus had said it tho. That is your problem

KingEbukasBlog:
I don't think you think for yourself . You read too much garbage online . There are atheists in the past who have made ludicrous definitions and upheld them as truth .

If this happens , then God is not that
If that happens then God is this

What hogwash , who are you to determine what is good and what is evil ?

foladara777:
Lemme spell it out for you... If I had a purpose to fulfill and I had all needed resources at my disposal, if there are alternative methods or processes to fulfill that purpose and one of those methods will cause misfortune to someone, I will choose the other method that does not require hurt to anyone, that's if am a good person... However, if the only way of achieving that purpose is by hurting someone, then am not omnipotent, because I can't achieve that purpose the way I like it I.e without hurting anyone...
So it's like this:
Could God have created this world without imperfections?? If your answer is yes, then he's not a good God
If your answer he is no then he's neither Almighty nor omnipotent...

NinjaX:
I'd rather go with the existence of heaven and earth (as absurd as it sounds) than accept that the universe simply exploded from empty air.

How can they explain the concept of space and time and try to rationalise it with the series of actions that gave rise to all there is.

Why did the big bang happen at that specific time? What conditions necessitated it? Is it like a tree that bears fruits at its season?

Can it be related to the concept of an egg that hatches after undergoing its due process?

jonbellion:
It however is more than obvious you are on LSD nixed with crystal meth with a dash of camel piss

promisechuks:
here he goes, as the DING-DUMB boy never disappoints.

lol, don't get pained yet because you ain't seen anything yet.

promisechuks:
how did he drink it?

foladara777:
This hypocrisy, u expect conclusive evidence of the big bang but believe the creation story without a shred of evidence

ifenes:
Can you see why you will never be smart. You think being smart is forbidden. Just as the people misunderstood your boy Jesus, you will always misunderstand me too. I heard he said what he did you can do better. But this slave mentality is s big issue.

4everGod:
Just in!

Everyday we get hit by a barrage of people who declare that the world has absolutely no intelligent design attributable to it which means the earth was not created and neither was the universe but it just happened by chance.

Well daily scientific discoveries are proving them wrong and showing that purposeful complexity cannot be a product of Chance. Well as a Geography and regional planning graduate this article struck me as awesome.

Please to the open minded i would like you to read the Below article regarding this latest discovery about the earth and note the highlighted parts then form your opinion or conclusion.


[b]A trove of water may be hiding more than 250 miles (400 kilometers) beneath your feet.

That's where the Earth's mantle meets the crust. Geoscientists had long thought that below this transition zone (starting at 255 miles, or 410 km, deep) a water-filled mineral called brucite was unstable and so decomposed, sending water molecules flowing toward the planet's surface.

But new research suggests that before brucite — which is 50 percent magnesium oxide and 50 percent water — decomposes, it transforms into another, more stable 3D structure. The finding, detailed online Nov. 21 in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, means there's a stash of water located deeper in Earth than was previously thought.

"[This finding] was not entirely expected," said study co-author Andreas Hermann, a lecturer in computational physics at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. "[That's] because people have studied this material for decades and nobody ever thought of looking whether there would be another phase before it eventually fell apart."

Probing deep Earth

Scientists previously believed that brucite remained stable only as far as the transition zone, a 155-mile-deep (250 km) layer just below the upper mantle. In part, the mineral's structure informed this view. Brucite is a layered material in which the molecules in each layer are strongly bound to each other but weakly connected to other layers. A material like this, if squeezed with enough pressure, must undergo some kind of change. Researchers previously assumed that in response to transition zone pressure, which reaches about 200,000 atmospheres, brucite would crumble. (One atmosphere is approximately is the pressure at sea level).

Unable to probe the deep Earth directly, Hermann and his co-author, Mainak Mookherjee, a professor of geology at Florida State University, used quantum-mechanical calculations, analyzing various possible structures for brucite in deep-Earth conditions.

"This is big-data computing," said Hermann. "We create thousands of structures, optimize them all and do calculations accurate enough that if something stands out as more stable than something else, we can reliably say that it is so."

Brucite is a well-studied and relatively simple mineral. Even so, Hermann said that the key to the new calculations was ignoring existing assumptions about brucite. After several months of running various structures through their computer program, the researchers found a previously unknown phase of brucite that would be able to withstand the high pressures found in the lower mantle.

Even with this new phase of brucite, scientists are still unable to directly measure the amount of the substance in the mantle or how much water the mineral holds. However, Hermann and Mookherjee did work out the elastic properties of the new phase of brucite. Knowing this, said Hermann, seismologists may be able to detect how much brucite is in the mantle because the signatures of earthquakes differ based on the elasticity of the rock through which they travel.

Why brucite matters

Current estimates suggest that the deep Earth may hold as much water as all the oceans on the planet's surface combined. This reservoir of water, and the additional trove brucite may also hold, are vitally important to the movement of materials through the Earth. As water-containing minerals travel down through the Earth's layers, the materials eventually decompose, releasing the water that makes its way back to the surface, often through volcanic activity.

Water is essential to the recycling of minerals through volcanism and plate tectonics, because it provides the lubrication needed for the various rock materials to move past each other, as occurs in subduction zones. It also helps some materials dissolve as the move through the rock cycle. Without water, said Hermann, the planet would come to a geologic standstill. This means no new crust or soil, and a halt in volcanism; these changes could have catastrophic effects on the planet's land and atmosphere.

Aside from potentially changing scientists' understanding of water reservoirs far below the Earth's surface, Hermann said this research champions a new way of thinking about the deep Earth in general. The researchers would not have found this new phase if they had favored the accepted version, he said.[/b]

Now that you have read the article and noted the particular highlighted portions please note that the article talks about a massive oceanic pool of water inside the earth which is as good as being the size of all the oceans on the earth put together.

Now compare this with what happened in the days of Noah and the very words contained in the Bible in Genesis 7: 11

When Noah was 600 years old, on the seventeenth day of the second month, all the underground waters erupted from the earth, and the rain fell in mighty torrents from the sky.

How did the men of old who were inspired to write the scriptures know about this massive underground ocean which scientists are discovering today?

Ponder on it and let me know your conclusion.

For a more detailed reading of this article you can visit

http://www.livescience.com/46292-hidden-ocean-locked-in-earth-mantle.html

4everGod:
Let me put this simply so you would get it.

Are you Omnipotent? NO

Are you Omniscient? NO

Until you experience for a minute what God is experiencing and yet being able to keep everything in balance both within the planet and outside it then you can judge him.

Your case is like the case of Job who kept asking God similar questions as yours so let me show you what God told Job in Job 38

[b] 1Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said,

2“Who is this that darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?

3“Now gird up your loins like a man,
And I will ask you, and you instruct Me!

4“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding,

5Who set its measurements? Since you know.
Or who stretched the line on it?

6“On what were its bases sunk?
Or who laid its cornerstone,

7When the morning stars sang together
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

8“Or who enclosed the sea with doors
When, bursting forth, it went out from the womb;

9When I made a cloud its garment
And thick darkness its swaddling band,

10And I placed boundaries on it
And set a bolt and doors,

11And I said, ‘Thus far you shall come, but no farther;
And here shall your proud waves stop’?


12“Have you ever in your life commanded the morning,
And caused the dawn to know its place,

13That it might take hold of the ends of the earth,
And the wicked be shaken out of it?

14“It is changed like clay under the seal;
And they stand forth like a garment.

15“From the wicked their light is withheld,
And the uplifted arm is broken.

16“Have you entered into the springs of the sea
Or walked in the recesses of the deep?

17“Have the gates of death been revealed to you,
Or have you seen the gates of deep darkness?

18“Have you understood the expanse of the earth?
Tell Me, if you know all this.

19“Where is the way to the dwelling of light?
And darkness, where is its place,

20That you may take it to its territory
And that you may discern the paths to its home?

21“You know, for you were born then,
And the number of your days is great!

22“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow,
Or have you seen the storehouses of the hail,

23Which I have reserved for the time of distress,
For the day of war and battle?

24“Where is the way that the light is divided,
Or the east wind scattered on the earth?

25“Who has cleft a channel for the flood,
Or a way for the thunderbolt,

26To bring rain on a land without people,
On a desert without a man in it,

27 To satisfy the waste and desolate land
And to make the seeds of grass to sprout?

28“Has the rain a father?
Or who has begotten the drops of dew?

29“From whose womb has come the ice?
And the frost of heaven, who has given it birth?

30“Water becomes hard like stone,
And the surface of the deep is imprisoned.

31“Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades,
Or loose the cords of Orion?

32“Can you lead forth a constellation in its season,
And guide the Bear with her satellites?

33“Do you know the ordinances of the heavens,
Or fix their rule over the earth?

34“Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,
So that an abundance of water will cover you?

35“Can you send forth lightnings that they may go
And say to you, ‘Here we are’?

36“Who has put wisdom in the innermost being
Or given understanding to the mind?

37“Who can count the clouds by wisdom,
Or tip the water jars of the heavens,

38When the dust hardens into a mass
And the clods stick together?

39“Can you hunt the prey for the lion,
Or satisfy the appetite of the young lions,

40When they crouch in their dens
And lie in wait in their lair?

41“Who prepares for the raven its nourishment
When its young cry to God
And wander about without food?
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NinjaX:
Why not ask him yourself? Prayer is the means of communicating with God. Pray to him and he might just provide you answers.