benzics:


Religion and science, we all know.. Over the years, religion have claimed to know everything about the existence of man, religion even claims to know how life began on earth, but that isn't the sad part, the sad part is that there are actually people out there who believe that a book written over a thousand years ago by some con artist, is all they need to know about life, is their daily guide to a peaceful and "sin-free" coexistence.


Below is an illustration comparing the knowledge held by science and religion.


Religion believes that yes, it has attained all that is to know about the world and therefore there are no room for improvements or additions, that's why it's borders are closed.

Science on the other hand is still learning about the world, and looking at the lines for science, they are infinite (no limit), science knows a better deal about the world, but that isn't it, it still has a lot to learn and there are always room for improvement.


Look at the environment around you, the device that you use, what if man have been praying over the course of the years? Would we have gotten this far? NO! Because well we all know, prayer is equivalent to doing nothing!

Now, religion is a CULT of people who DON'T THINK! Religious people tend to disprove logic when it comes to matters concerning religion, but if it doesn't concern religion, well, "WE NEED PROOF". These people act paradoxically without even thinking for a moment, "what am I doing".

When the topic is religion, they tend to not use their brains, but once it's science, these people then turn Einstein, and start asking useless questions like, "where is the proof"..

Now go to a church and give testimony of how a handsome man in white drew you out of the car when your car was about to crash, but then after you were saved from the accident, you didn't see the man again, then watch how the whole congregation will be like "praise Jehovah, thank you Jesus", without anyone questioning the logic behind this ridiculous story.

Now go tell the same people a story of how aliens came to you with their UFOs, and were communicating with you... Then watch them go "where is the proof, don't you have a camera? Where are the photos and videos? You think we will just believe that Nonsense?".

Lol actually how these people fail to see the irony in their actions baffles me a lot.

Now, religious people believe in an INTELLIGENT DESIGN, because well, the DNA is TOO COMPLEX to have formed on it's own.

It's funny really, how you believe that the DNA, a complex structure, must have a creator, but a more complex structure, "God", doesn't have a creator.. Lol, take a look at this.
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Fil: Science has found god.

Me: really? How?

Fil: it has discovered that the DNA is too complex, so it must have a creator.

Me: lol but the DNA could have easily existed by mistake.

Fil : Now I know atheism is a mental disorder, how can you say that the complex DNA has no creator? Bro can you listen to yourself, bro sorry to say, but you are a fool.

Me: lol so anyone who believes that complex things came by mistake is a fool?

Fil: a fool, no doubt.

Me: between DNA and God, which is more complex?

Fil: Mysteri....

Me: shut up and just answer me.

Fil: God.

Me: so you, your father, your mother, your whole family, your pastor, your bishops, your overseers, they are all fools for believing a complex god had no creator.

FIL...

Me: fil, are you there?
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Dan: what if you are wrong and there is God, and you burn in hell for eternity for being an atheist.
Me: what if you are wrong and also burn in hell for being a Christian and not a Muslim?
Dan: Christianity is the true religion.
Me: I've heard that from many people from different religions, so who am I to believe?
Dan: my religion.
Me: so said everyone..
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This is how little religious people think, they don't see the bigger picture, they love to center around their useless books, instead of actually discovering and seeing the world as it really is.

The only way a religious person can think, is to finally break free from the shackles of religion, but is that really possible when they have all clouded their judgments with myopia?? I don't think so....

4evergod, EyeHateGod, jonbellion, kingebukasblog , hopefulLandlord e.t c

hopefulLandlord:


if you have any rebuttal to his post, kindly present it

empty, angry anodyne words like the one you just posted make you look asinine

benzics:

That's Exactly what indoctrination does to people...

benzics:

Ya right, they're called raelians not atheists! Atheism is no belief!

benzics:
It is a state of mind where one says NO to assumptions, and pursue facts! At least, reasonable things!

benzics:
For you to believe in an intelligent design, you are no free thinker

benzics:
because the idea of the intelligent design was embedded in you by your superiors

benzics:
I can't believe in an unproven assumption, that's atheism!

AlfaAce:

they coined god? I agree that religious extremism and dogma has caused more harm than good(if any at all),but you shouldn't go to the extent of saying they coined 'GOD' .God's existence is far too evident to be denied.It takes real logic to fully come to terms with the fact that not everything can be humanly rationalized.

hopefulLandlord:


if you have any rebuttal to his post, kindly present it

empty, angry anodyne words like the one you just posted make you look asinine

rhektor:

Most scientific breakthroughs and discoveries are achieved by curiously reading the Bible and trying to either prove or disprove the bible.

Every history written in the Bible is with landmark /landscape or description of a place which some scientists in the past had thought to be lie, however recent archaeological evidences are proving most to be right.

Note this those who believe in evolution simply because they thought they had evidences against the creationist account of the book of Genesis has not find any fossil(s) of any specie of animal or plants that they could say existed after human being. And we have this in Genesis that after the six creation day God rested from his works of creation. Have you heard of any new specie discovered ?
Next time you want to criticise religion please don't commit hasty generalisations, it is fallacious.

KingEbukasBlog:


Raelians are atheists because they don't hold any belief in deities . Those atheists believe that aliens created life on earth . They reject evolution .



Atheism is still a belief anyway and the belief there is no God is a supposition . The existence of God is factual , Atheism is denial more like rejection of God . As far as you reject gods or deities you are an atheist . That means an atheist can believe in witchcraft , superstition , reincarnation , veneration of ancestral spirits , magic etc .


It depends as what you see as intelligent design. Theistic evolutionists see natural selection as a mechanism for creation . Life is intelligently designed , the contentious issue should be , by what mechanism .



Funny enough that's what the raelians who like I mentioned before are atheists . They believe this idea of intelligent design has been passed down from generations for 6,000 years .



Actually that's fallacious reasoning - appeal to ignorance fallacy . You surmise that God does not exist because of the supposed lack of contrary evidence . If that is what you call atheism, then no wonder it is illogical and repulsive to logical beings like me .

foladara777:

The evidence of God is factual?? Kuku kill me!! Do you even know the meaning of factual

KingEbukasBlog:


Don't use words when you don't know their meanings . I don't wish to engage in a logomachy with you but "anodyne" means innocuous - not offensive . That means if his words are not offensive then they shouldn't make him look stupid .

You can say the use of invective makes one look stupid - that's much better .

hopefulLandlord:


I didn't find his word offensive but "dull"

do you even know the origin and deeper meaning of the word?

shift abeg, I no get time for idiotic derailing

keep what you term as "correct grammar" to yourself, afterall you're myopic enough

rhektor:



Your assertions are myopic, in fact your attack on religion is borne out of your ignorance. How could you claim that the religious books are written by corn artists? Isn't this statement of yours preposterous? You think religion is all about dogma alone. The Christian religion has given everyone the grace to prove and disprove everything written in the Bible. "search all things and hold on to what is true"
Most scientific breakthroughs and discoveries are achieved by curiously reading the Bible and trying to either prove or disprove the bible. Every history written in the Bible is with landmark /landscape or description of a place which some scientists in the past had thought to be lie, however recent archaeological evidences are proving most to be right.
Note this those who believe in evolution simply because they thought they had evidences against the creationist account of the book of Genesis has not find any fossil(s) of any specie of animal or plants that they could say existed after human being. And we have this in Genesis that after the six creation day God rested from his works of creation. Have you heard of any new specie discovered ?
Next time you want to criticise religion please don't commit hasty generalisations, it is fallacious.

Observe the following images and respond please I would like to hear from you

hopefulLandlord:
I'll ignore the earlier part of your post


is this what you tell yourself to make yourself feel better?

why not name 10, just 10 of such "Most Scientific breakthroughs" achieved by curiously reading the buybull? I'll wait

nonsense, even most fictional books use real places, doesn't prove anything, you're displaying what's called "Confirmation Bias"




is that why there are two contradicting creation stories in your hole-ly buybull? think brother, is not a sin, is it?

rhektor:

How contradicting let's talk about it.

hopefulLandlord:


http://www.leighb.com/genesis.htm

rhektor:


Are you that lazy that you cannot write it here? If this is what you do and call yourself enlighten mind or logic mind then you've got a real big problem

hopefulLandlord:
I'll ignore the earlier part of your post


is this what you tell yourself to make yourself feel better?

why not name 10, just 10 of such "Most Scientific breakthroughs" achieved by curiously reading the buybull? I'll wait

nonsense, even most fictional books use real places, doesn't prove anything, you're displaying what's called "Confirmation Bias"




is that why there are two contradicting creation stories in your hole-ly buybull? think brother, is not a sin, is it?

KingEbukasBlog:


He runs to the site that claims the bible has contradictions . You have to pause and wonder if he understands the so-called contradictions or he just showed repugnant gullibility .

rhektor:


Are you that lazy that you cannot write it here? If this is what you do and call yourself enlighten mind or logic mind then you've got a real big problem

hopefulLandlord:


http://www.leighb.com/genesis.htm

rhektor:




The Second Law of Thermodynamics Confirms Psalm 102:26
First, let us consider the science of thermodynamics: In Psalm 102:25,26, we read, "Of old hast Thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of Thy hands. They shall perish, but Thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt Thou change them, and they shall be changed."

In verse 25, we find, restated, the fact that God is the Creator of all that exists. Verse 26 then tells us something highly significant, not about the initial, created state of the universe, but about the present state of the universe. According to this Scripture, written three thousand years before the dawn of modern science, we learn that the universe is like a suit of clothes that is wearing out. In other words, the universe is running down, deteriorating, constantly becoming less and less orderly.

That is not what most people believed when this Scripture was recorded. According to human observations, the universe was unchangeable. The statement that the universe is constantly becoming more random, less orderly, is a scientifically testable statement. The fact that the universe, in its present state is deteriorating, has been fully verified by modern science. Everywhere we look, from the scale of the galaxies down to the scale of the atom, we find a universal, natural tendency of all systems to go from order to disorder; from complexity to simplicity. Thus, clusters of galaxies are dispersing as the galaxies move away from one another.

The rotation of the earth is slowing; the magnetic field of the earth is decaying. Erosion constantly wears down the features of the earth. Our bodies wear out; we die and decay to a pile of dust. Our houses, our machines wear out and are finally abandoned and replaced. Many atoms decay to simpler products, and it is even being postulated that sub-atomic particles, such as the proton, decay, though ever so slowly, into energy.

You can continue here
http://www.icr.org/article/modern-scientific-discoveries-verify-scriptures/

Blitzerz:
Another one.

foladara777:

Yeah, I remember we did two accounts of the creation story in CRK. Two accounts written by the same man and dictated by the same God... Ayaf suffer woh

hopefulLandlord:


oga, is this what we asked for?

Foladara777 abeg, na wetin we ask for be dis?

rhektor:


What did you ask for?

hopefulLandlord:


you're actually the one that sounds lazy, I've provided a link where it was presented in such a way that is easiest to understand
go to the link and read it, don't be lazy and stop this psychological projection of yours, its too easy to see through

hopefulLandlord:


why not name 10, just 10 of such "Most Scientific breakthroughs" achieved by curiously reading the buybull?

hopefulLandlord:


oga, is this what we asked for?

Foladara777 abeg, na wetin we ask for be dis?

rhektor:


Stop being sarcastic, appeal to emotions do not win arguments. You think by trying to rigmarole you'll be seen as intelligent? This only show how shallow you are. Goodnight

foladara777:

Boss, I tire for this people... They opened a thread on that scientific discovery article, all of them were shouting God is great until I asked a simple question showing contradiction with other verses of the bible and they all dissappeared like smoke... If u can argue with Christians successfully, the long suffering u have is more than the one holy spirit gives as a fruit of the spiritspirit