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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by tosan200(m): 8:15am On Dec 15, 2016
tammie24:
you are the one that's ignorant here


I didn't say it helps the economy, I said it's helping people with the economic situation in the country. The government should be happy this is happening now to be honest otherwise things would have been worse for people
Helping people how? Robbing peter to pay Paul. Please help me understand. Can the scheme thrive without new members? If paradventure the amount of people getting help are more than those providing help, can these scheme survive? If the system crashes, those people you think this scheme is helping are those who will suffer it the most because they will end up giving the little they have and getting nothing in return.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Nobody: 9:42am On Dec 15, 2016
tammie24:
One can't deny the fact that MMM has help a lot of people, I'm not a participant of MMM but from what I've seen around it seems to be the answer to the prayers of people especially with the current economic situation in the country. I've observed that most of the people that want mmm gone are people that are well to do that like people to remain below them and never become something in life. When you realise that the person who is always asking you for money stops, you start getting jealous and angry. I hope MMM comes back though but they need to do serious damage control!
eyaa sorry.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by komonibo(m): 10:06am On Dec 15, 2016
mmm haters re u aware is not dsame day all mmmites provide help?It is still not dsame day dey get help?nd still not dsame day dey get matched?Ask urself dis questions nd continue wallowing in ur ignorance ND confusion...pple dat re not participating hav much 2 say about d scheme more Dan even doz dat re participating undecided Nigerians I dey hail ena o...kip waiting 4 d downfall of ur brothers...1love mmmites

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by MrKang: 10:31am On Dec 15, 2016
komonibo:
mmm haters re u aware is not dsame day all mmmites provide help?It is still not dsame day dey get help?nd still not dsame day dey get matched?Ask urself dis questions nd continue wallowing in ur ignorance ND confusion...pple dat re not participating hav much 2 say about d scheme more Dan even doz dat re participating undecided Nigerians I dey hail ena o...kip waiting 4 d downfall of ur brothers...1love mmmites
Oh my Lawd, people like you are so irritating.
I can't just believe people like you can be so optimistically DUMB. Chai sad

Well sha,y'all are still in the denial stage and very soon when Reality don slap una, una eye go clear

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by vizkiz: 10:34am On Dec 15, 2016
MrKang:

Oh my Lawd, people like you are so irritating.
I can't just believe people like you can be so optimistically DUMB. Chai sad

Well sha,y'all are still in the denial stage and very soon when Reality don slap una, una eye go clear

Leave him to his ignorance grin

Like you said... Denial stage (stage one)

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by MrKang: 10:49am On Dec 15, 2016
vizkiz:


Leave him to his ignorance grin

Like you said... Denial stage (stage one)
As you can see majority are entering Stage Two= ANGER
They start attacking those they perceive as "MMM Haters" ,lmao grin .

I just don't know how they turn off part of their Thinking Faculty just to give themselves false hope,even when Reality states otherwise?
Gosh,I refuse to have descendants of these breeds of Humans.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by nabiz(m): 11:18am On Dec 15, 2016
Gambling is a game. You only study when play and when to walk away. I know this will happen in this december that a good analyst should have walk away since November.

Mmm has made more money that they offer. They only help the wise few. Do u know that 80% of the players reinvested the money the made in order to compound their money.

Mmm was too good to be truth. And is likely to be fraud.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by bjdon: 11:45am On Dec 15, 2016
MMM is not a fraud per se. It is simply a ponzi scheme. The people who enter early make money, those who enter late loose. That's the way these things ALWAYS work. I bet you another scheme will emerge within the next 12 months and the exactly the same thing will happen. Ultimately these type of schemes can only flourish in failed states like Nigeria.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by TRIXIA: 12:16pm On Dec 15, 2016
cramjones:
As always, I would comment on contemporary issues that affect the Nigerian populace. All for love of Nigeria. Even though I believe that Nigeria as it stands is close to a failed state, we can all do more through visionary leadership to emancipate our country from the cesspit that has gutted it. That said, I have followed closely the MMM phenomenon since it came to my attention, and as it is normal of my analytical mind, I have taken time to study the trend, review historical facts, and all other data available to me. After this review I have therefore, come to the following conclusions on the fate of MMM.

1. For those that are hoping MMM would suddenly resurface in January because the Nigerian planter's wife said so in a note, are definitely setting themselves up for depression. Nothing of such would happen. This is the deal, MMM is not an investment it is a gamble. The money is only redistributed therefore the system would crash when two conditions occur - something that has already taken place - and these conditions are as follows:

-When new comers or "help providers" exceeds those who want to receive "help" it sets the stage for a crash

-When those withdrawing exceeds a critical amount needed to keep it rolling regardless of the number of people joining, then the system would crash.

I believe these two conditions have been met. Christmas time is a time no one wants to give money, rather they want to be helped, with the overwhelming withdrawals that far exceeded the "help providers" the system had to be shut down, because money does not grow on trees.

2. If MMM ever have a blinker to open, which I doubt very much in January as stated in their later, there would be a state of panic withdrawals, and there would be sharp decline of the new people that would have otherwise joined. This panic withdrawals, would lead the MMM handlers to shut it down completely and take with them whatever is left of the system.

3. The other reason MMM had to shut down early December is more likely than not to ensure maximum "cash outs" by the handlers. At this time there is an all time high of money in the system because people put in most of what they had to ensure they get good cash for the Christmas, this high would not happen any other time of the year, so this was the best time for the handlers to cash out big, and I believe they already did.

Finally, the MMM phenomenon further shows the failed system of Nigeria. This system only flourishes in this magnitude in failed countries. It thrived in Russia during the collapse of the Soviet Union, failed Zimbabwe, thrived in failed parts of South Africa, like Soweto. People have lost hope in any decent labor or lack of jobs thereof. Other are greedy and sometimes plain dumb.

Good luck to everyone "waiting" in trepidation to get help. I wish you luck.

God Bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria

-CramJones

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by komonibo(m): 1:13pm On Dec 15, 2016
MrKang:

Oh my Lawd, people like you are so irritating.
I can't just believe people like you can be so optimistically DUMB. Chai sad

Well sha,y'all are still in the denial stage and very soon when Reality don slap una, una eye go clear
bro we re 2 different pple wit entirely different tinx involved....i do what I 1nt 2 do ND nt wat u 1nt...nd ur quoting is highly not nidded ere...u re nt bin forced 2 b a member or persuaded 2 b 1...ND nxt tym don't quote me cos I don't think I will have d time 2 reply u...ND I don't think u have any quality dat wil match mine in a superior way in terms of anything

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by maslong(m): 1:25pm On Dec 15, 2016
DeanAmbrose23:
Oh really?? Calling the mods to come lend credence to your stupidity? If you so love attention, why not try running naked into the market and see if you won't be front page news! Nonsense!

E PAIN AM grin cheesy
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Nobody: 3:37pm On Dec 15, 2016
MMM has helped many lives and was built to last as long as there is at least plus 50% or percentage of investment coming into the system every given cycle.
It lasted because people were bringing the fund there were making back to the system but now they have decided to spend there monies elsewhere, Recession is bound to affect it and coming back can only be successful if people would be paid in batches and not at once.
The only fear is that many other lucrative schemes are springing up every now and then that 2017 will be full of different types of online investment schemes.
To me, I prefer MMM bitcoin.you don't have to worry yourself about payment confirmation, just search the transaction for the transaction details on blockchain and you will find it and it is open to anybody that care to know if the payment is true or fake.
Meanwhile, Any investment more than 5k. count me out. check my signature for the best investment for 2017.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by DeanAmbrose23: 11:40pm On Dec 15, 2016
maslong:


E PAIN AM grin cheesy
E suppose
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by FlyboyZee: 6:20am On Dec 16, 2016
tammie24:
One can't deny the fact that MMM has help a lot of people, I'm not a participant of MMM but from what I've seen around it seems to be the answer to the prayers of people especially with the current economic situation in the country. I've observed that most of the people that want mmm gone are people that are well to do that like people to remain below them and never become something in life. When you realise that the person who is always asking you for money stops, you start getting jealous and angry. I hope MMM comes back though but they need to do serious damage control!
Don't feel like a superstar trying to sound off. NO POOR MAN, I repeat, NO POOR MAN participates in MMM. The only motive for participants is greed and the lure of quick money and not poverty please.

Poor people do not even have the money to eat, not to talk of putting it in a scheme and waiting 30 days for 30% return on investment. No way. A poor man would rather use the little money he can raise to buy/sell fast moving goods, so that he can raise a little money to at least feed him/herself everyday.

Do you also realize that it can be roughly put that N200,000 is the average amount invested per person in the scheme. Where poor man wan see that kind money. Think of all those women selling okra, tomatoes and pepper in the market, think of all those guys hawking their wares in wheelbarrows. Think of all those hawkers you see on the streets and try to convince yourself that they are 'Providing Help' and 'Getting Help' and then reread what you wrote up there that MMM has helped the poor. It is a scheme for the greedy, by the greedy and sustained by greed...

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by FlyboyZee: 6:25am On Dec 16, 2016
cupidFlint:
We were warned to invest with our spare money which I personally did. am not even disturbed. if it comes back on in January, which I doubt it would, then good for us, if it doesn't so be it. The greatest blame should be on the present government cos if our economy had been buoyant these folks wouldn't have come in the first place.
Very reasonable participant. Not all those dumb people trying to act as if e no pain dem, but dey find where to borrow money take rearrange things.

You are a wise one my dear...

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by tammie24: 6:57am On Dec 16, 2016
FlyboyZee:

Don't feel like a superstar trying to sound off. NO POOR MAN, I repeat, NO POOR MAN participates in MMM. The only motive for participants is greed and the lure of quick money and not poverty please.

Poor people do not even have the money to eat, not to talk of putting it in a scheme and waiting 30 days for 30% return on investment. No way. A poor man would rather use the little money he can raise to buy/sell fast moving goods, so that he can raise a little money to at least feed him/herself everyday.

Do you also realize that it can be roughly put that N200,000 is the average amount invested per person in the scheme. Where poor man wan see that kind money. Think of all those women selling okra, tomatoes and pepper in the market, think of all those guys hawking their wares in wheelbarrows. Think of all those hawkers you see on the streets and try to convince yourself that they are 'Providing Help' and 'Getting Help' and then reread what you wrote up there that MMM has helped the poor. It is a scheme for the greedy, by the greedy and sustained by greed...
I know lots of students that are into it and young jobless youth
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by zikter(m): 7:39am On Dec 16, 2016
Atiku2019:



10years is too far bro, surely in the next three years another will emerge wink
many are still active presently
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by zikter(m): 7:44am On Dec 16, 2016
MrEverest:
I doubt you really did research on MMM as you said op, your analysis is wrong. I hope you wont eat your words when they come out again in january.
I need your analysis on mmm pls. may be I will register when and if it comes back. but for now, op has more credible and educative information, pending when you dish out your own here for comparative analysis.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by gameboyo: 7:51am On Dec 16, 2016
Atiku2019:



10years is too far bro, surely in the next three years another will emerge wink
It does take 10 or close to 10years . Umana Umana's own was 1989,then came Speed link and it's affiliates in 1999,then we got the 'forex' ponzi scheme in 2009,before this.
It's always 10years
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by gameboyo: 7:52am On Dec 16, 2016
MrEverest:
I doubt you really did research on MMM as you said op, your analysis is wrong. I hope you wont eat your words when they come out again in january.

With which invested funds will they use to pay this accumulated debt?
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by gameboyo: 7:55am On Dec 16, 2016
Atiku2019:



grin grin MMM created accounts that just receive without providing help. Thats where their founders and promoters made several Millions of Naira grin

Exactly. This is the fact.
Someone once asked in this forum;
Who were the first set of people that provided help and who did the provide the help to. No one seems to get an answer to it
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Atiku2019: 8:00am On Dec 16, 2016
gameboyo:

It does take 10 or close to 10years . Umana Umana's own was 1989,then came Speed link and it's affiliates in 1999,then we got the 'forex' ponzi scheme in 2009,before this.
It's always 10years



Omo you don run your analysis on how it works oh grin grin

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by zikter(m): 8:01am On Dec 16, 2016
FlyboyZee:

Don't feel like a superstar trying to sound off. NO POOR MAN, I repeat, NO POOR MAN participates in MMM. The only motive for participants is greed and the lure of quick money and not poverty please.

Poor people do not even have the money to eat, not to talk of putting it in a scheme and waiting 30 days for 30% return on investment. No way. A poor man would rather use the little money he can raise to buy/sell fast moving goods, so that he can raise a little money to at least feed him/herself everyday.

Do you also realize that it can be roughly put that N200,000 is the average amount invested per person in the scheme. Where poor man wan see that kind money. Think of all those women selling okra, tomatoes and pepper in the market, think of all those guys hawking their wares in wheelbarrows. Think of all those hawkers you see on the streets and try to convince yourself that they are 'Providing Help' and 'Getting Help' and then reread what you wrote up there that MMM has helped the poor. It is a scheme for the greedy, by the greedy and sustained by greed...
bros, am impressed with your intelligent submission. there is no connection btw mmm and the poor. greed, greed and greed is the fuel to mmm fire.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Jesusloveyou: 9:12am On Dec 16, 2016
cupidFlint:
We were warned to invest with our spare money which I personally did. am not even disturbed. if it comes back on in January, which I doubt it would, then good for us, if it doesn't so be it. The greatest blame should be on the present government cos if our economy had been buoyant these folks wouldn't have come in the first place.
that your spare money would have save one soul in the hospital.
Meanwhile, this present government is not the cause of your problems, your problem started since 1986.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by MrEverest(m): 9:22am On Dec 16, 2016
zikter:
I need your analysis on mmm pls. may be I will register when and if it comes back. but for now, op has more credible and educative information, pending when you dish out your own here for comparative analysis.
1.Majority of the old members who have been making money from mmm from 2 months & above, still have faith in mmm & are still PHing. 2. By pausing GH, the admin continues to accumulate PH & the latter is likely to outstrip the former, on or before 14/01/17 which will balance the system. 3. The admin have already extending the period of maturity for GH from 14 days to 30 days which would drastically reduce the pressure of GH. 4. Recession is still biting hard & many Nigerians would rather take risk on mmm with hopes of getting good returns than remaining hopeless in hunger and penury. 5. The massive media & government attack, bad as it may seem on the face value, will even end up helping mmm when they bounce back.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Jesusloveyou: 9:31am On Dec 16, 2016
komonibo:
mmm haters re u aware is not dsame day all mmmites provide help?It is still not dsame day dey get help?nd still not dsame day dey get matched?Ask urself dis questions nd continue wallowing in ur ignorance ND confusion...pple dat re not participating hav much 2 say about d scheme more Dan even doz dat re participating undecided Nigerians I dey hail ena o...kip waiting 4 d downfall of ur brothers...1love mmmites
how will those that provide help for those that get help with additional 30percent interest, get their own help even without additional 30percent interest, since mmm use Peter money to pay Paul.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by victorking: 10:13am On Dec 16, 2016
The funny thing is that all mmm participants praying for mmm to pay them their money dont realise that they the participants are actually with the money. Its just your will to return the money you earned so that others will chop too.

Reality check is that for every 500 participants that benefit, 100 participants have lost their money forever.

New money is the only way to keep sustaining the system and for how long, cos every new money is entitled to 30% interest too.

Now this is the money that leaves participants
hands for every PH made:
30% PH interest;
Registration bonus;
10% referral bonus; 3-10% video testimonial bonus;
Money paid to guiders for organising an event like seminar and posting on youtube;
Guiders bonus which has a very long tree; Leadership bonuses and other hidden perks.

All these monies come from uninvested PH of participants. This is the reality check.

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by zikter(m): 11:00am On Dec 16, 2016
MrEverest:
1.Majority of the old members who have been making money from mmm from 2 months & above, still have faith in mmm & are still PHing. 2. By pausing GH, the admin continues to accumulate PH & the latter is likely to outstrip the former, on or before 14/01/17 which will balance the system. 3. The admin have already extending the period of maturity for GH from 14 days to 30 days which would drastically reduce the pressure of GH. 4. Recession is still biting hard & many Nigerians would rather take risk on mmm with hopes of getting good returns than remaining hopeless in hunger and penury. 5. The massive media & government attack, bad as it may seem on the face value, will even end up helping mmm when they bounce back.
OK, wishing every mmmite good luck in their adventure.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by komonibo(m): 11:14am On Dec 16, 2016
Jesusloveyou:
how will those that provide help for those that get help with additional 30percent interest, get their own help even without additional 30percent interest, since mmm use Peter money to pay Paul.
dats u re saying all mm mites don't have oda works doing
??
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by PaPPi1: 11:41am On Dec 16, 2016
I know the OP IS A GOFE BALL DIDNT BOTHER TO READ THE TRASH. LIKE I SAID TRASH!!!!!!!! CAME UP WITH YOUR STUPID ANALYSIS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO CREAT A THREAD IF YOUR NOT INTEREST IN THE SHCEME DONT TALK ABOUT IT. BY THE WAY I PH 80K ON TUESDAY EVEN WITH THE NEW NOTICE. THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PARTICIPANT ARE THE ONCE WAILING.

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