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damogul:
Dalaman since you do not believe in RELIGIOUS creationism what creationism do you believe in?

dalaman:
I don not believe in religious creationism.

dalaman:
My position is that something or somethings could be responsible for the existence of the universe. Since nobody has produced and incontrovertible and objective evidenceevidence am happy to say that I do not know. No one truly knows how the universe came.about we can only guess. The reality is we don't know.

damogul:
They say theists are dumb, We shall see.

In furtherance to this dalaman since life has individual meanings yet you say grizlybears individual meaning to his life is a false one can i also say your individual meaning to life is a false one?

DoctorAlien:
I will now show you that life has a universal meaning.

1. Why is life existing? If you can provide no answer, it means you agree that there is no purpose for life, and that there is no purpose for living. Therefore being alive is a waste of time.

But we are alive. And it follows that no human being, as a rule, engages in what he truly knows is a waste of time/of no purpose or benefit.

Therefore the universal meaning of life consists in actively trying to prove that one is not alive for no reason. In other words, we are alive to show that we are not alive for no reason, as atheists/nihilists claim.

But life has no meaning without GOD i.e. reason for living/meaning to life is found only in the Creator of life. Therefore universal meaning to life consists in acknowledging/worshiping GOD.

dalaman:
Yes to me it is false just as you also believe that the meaning muslims ascribe to to life is also false.

damogul:
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So since you do not know how then can you be sure of a purpose you do not know about? If you say life has individual meanings, how can you be sure of your own meaning to life IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW YOU GOT HERE AND WHY?

dalaman:
Which purpose? What is the universal purpose of life? Life's meaning is what you chose to.make of it and it varies from.religion to religion and from individual to individual. What is the universal purpose and meaning of life that is accepted by all human beings. Tell me.

KingEbukasBlog:


Abraham Lincoln , Thomas Jefferson are deists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deists

And Donald Trump is a Christian , well that's what he says .


According to Lenin , Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism . And then Marxism–Leninism holds that religion is the opium of the people, in the sense of promoting passive acceptance of suffering on Earth in the hope of eternal reward (Religion here regards to the one involving the belief in God ). Therefore, Marxism–Leninism [COMMUNISM] advocates the abolition of religion and the acceptance of atheism.

https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

Atheists and their lies .


I will rubbish whatever nonsense you have there later - suffused with lies and distortion of facts .

damogul:
You keep using religion to offer pointers. Stick to atheism ..this discussion is on atheism.

So since you do not know how you got here which means you do not know WHY you got here why then do you paint a purpose you are not sure of?

dalaman:
What has purpose God to do with why I got here? The purpose of my life is what I chose to.make of it. I can not stop using religious example because that is the only way I can explain to you and make you understand that you have no point at all. What is the purpose of the life of a muslim ? It is to submit to Allah's will as a loyal slave. What is the purpose of life of a Buddhist? To achieve nirvana. Life own is own has no purpose the purpose of life is what ever you chose to make of it. That is why life has different purpose to different individuals. If you disagree then tell me the universally accepted purpose of human life and show me how it is universally accepted.

dalaman:
What has purpose God to do with why I got here? The purpose of my life is what I chose to.make of it[b]. I can not stop using religious example because that is the only way I can explain to you and make you understand that you have no point at all[/b] . What is the purpose of the life of a muslim ? It is to submit to Allah's will as a loyal slave. What is the purpose of life of a Buddhist? To achieve nirvana. Life own is own has no purpose the purpose of life is what ever you chose to make of it. That is why life has different purpose to different individuals. If you disagree then tell me the universally accepted purpose of human life and show me how it is universally accepted.

damogul:
So since you do not know, how then can you be sure of a purpose you do not know about? If you say life has individual meanings, how can you be sure of your own meaning to life IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW YOU GOT HERE AND WHY?

The above is the question i asked you which you are trying to answer with a question. Answer my question directly. You say you have your own meaning to life which is personal to you. WHY?

You say you do not know how you got here on earth..which means you do not know why as without a WHY the HOW is useless. So how can you justify your personal meaning to life?

orunto27:
Mad people you see in the streets are not dead. They have imaginations too. Atheists imaginations are illusions not made real like those of mad people.

felixomor:
Actually, u keep giving religious examples because personally, your life has no meaning.
Better define it now.

#Fact #Honestly

hopefulLandlord:
that awkward moment when this description fits theists more than atheists

dalaman:
My life has meaning. Am a humanist and I find meaning in that philosophy of life. A hedonist finds meaning in hedonism. Life has no universal meaning and it seems that reality keeps paining you.

damogul:
Hasty generalization! Please answer my question directly and stop being dodgy

felixomor:
Do u know the origin of humanism?

orunto27:
Atheists are dead. They are walking corpses. Mad people you see in the streets are not dead. They have imaginations too. Atheists imaginations are illusions not made real like those of mad people.

jonbellion:
lol
KingEbukasBlog can distort ehn
And he's studying computer science
He's the kind of person that will modify the host file of your computer and post your URL addresses to an unreachable IP
Or he would argue that python is the best programming language in the world
Forgive my geek

dalaman:
No I don't. You tell me.

dalaman:
I do not need to know how I got here to give my life purpose. I find meaning and purpose from the things around me. Am a humanist and I do not need to know why I am here to give my life meaning and purpose. The why and how I got here has nothing to do with humanism. You have to show me why my life must ONLY have meaning and purpose when I know why and how I came into existence. You must show how that applies to all humans and if all humans agree to that.

felixomor:
Actually, u keep giving religious examples because personally, your life has no meaning.
Better define it now.

#Fact #Honestly

damogul:
Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, [b]which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives[/b]

So why did you call grizlybears meaning to his life a FALSE ONE?

if you have the right to give meaning and shape to YOUR OWN LIFE how then are you able to rate your rights and your wrongs and is a humanistic view not subjective? Can your meaning to life not be meaningless to another humanist? Can your idea of right not be wrong to another humanist? If a humanist decides to become a serial killer because that gives MEANING AND SHAPE to his life is he wrong?

felixomor:
So u chose a meaning for your life without querrying its origin?

Ok o.

Is this not what damogul was asking, that u kept dodging?

Edenoscar:
If you think this statement is wrong "there is no acceptable universal meaning of life,the meaning of life is what every individaul makes it to be" can you tell me the universal meaning of life.

dalaman:
What has its origin got to do with anything.

hopefulLandlord:
another appeal to Baron d'Holbach

stop this mental gymnastics brother, its not good for your health

atheism is

1 lack of belief in deities

2 rejection of deities

3 proclaiming no deities exist

I know you desperately wish the first one away but it's a fruitless adventure

Edenoscar:
on the contrary i think theist are the walking corpes you keep waiting for an afterlife life that you will never get to.

I value this life more as an atheist because i know this is the only one i have