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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 7:14am On Dec 17, 2016
68816419:


i knw you would brig the pride of Kenya "Thika Extra super high way grin" a road been maintained by your Chinese master, well their
here are few high ways of Lagos

The reason i brand some Nigerians among the continents idiots in terms of intellectual capacity is mainly because of comments such as this.... How or why is it bad/not good to use roads constructed by "our chinese masters" paid by the Kenyan taxpayers to build, maintain and ensure that Kenyan taxpayers get the best quality of what is paid for. Its a suprise since the biggest importers and consumers of China made merchandise in Africa are Nigerians yet you are here egoistically puking verbose that makes least sense.
For me i would love it if the Chinese would also venture into the Kenyan real estate and more public infrastructure since the consumers who are Kenyan citizenry will benefit from the efficiency of massive Chinese foreign direct investment portfolio.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:17am On Dec 17, 2016
Kenyans please understand Nigerian ignorance. Apart from about seven who are doing legitimate business in Kenya, the rest are illegal immigrants who do not get out of their houses. That's why some forged tales here about Kenya are even shocking us grin

Apartments in Muthaiga undecided Indians and whites in kahawa grin that was funny grin and Nigerians live in the most affluent neighbourhoods in Kenya shocked he he that is Roi Sambu grin grin and Umoja grin

cheesy Ignorance is BLISS I tell you grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:40am On Dec 17, 2016
Boyedex:
Nah. You are the stupid ass licker here with no sense of decorum and civilized conversation. Obviously, arguing without insults is a stupid thing in your world. So much for whatever university and environ baked you. You'll always be an indictment to that school you pseudointellectual. Don't worry, I've given up on you as I know you still won't be sensible after this.


This is the hundredth time you're giving up on me yet you keep coming. Come back with some substance and I will treat you with respect otherwise I'll see you as the poop you are.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Boyedex: 7:48am On Dec 17, 2016
Dunno if some of these had already been shared but I'll reshare anyways. Random Nigeria street photos and Lifestyle






















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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:24am On Dec 17, 2016
mkenya254:


I did not say it is the largest brand in Lagos. I said it is one of the largest. You see discounting banks, most of the other large chains are international chains not local chains. For example, KFC is very big in Lagos(I saw very many) but in Nairobi it does not even feature in the top 10 restaurant chains.

I also mentioned Shoprite since it is the anchor stall of one of the largest malls in Lagos if not the largest. Some mall in VI whose name I can't remember. Just remember that it had a Nike shop next to Shoprite and there was another KFC is my memory serves me correct as well as LaPorte, Hugo boss on that mall. You have been there so your probably know it. I also saw a few other Shoprite. Another I saw was in Lekki on the way to the beach. It would seem to be an equivalent to Kenya's Nakumatt which is the largest retail chain here


Who told you KFC is the biggest in Lagos? grin

E bi like say you dey lie. grin

Chicken Republic (branches in Ghana), Tantalizers, Tasty Fried chicken, Sweet sensation, Mr Bigs, Kilimanjaro, Mama_Cass ( with branches in UK), Club Quilox (most expensive club with restaurant in Lagos), Yellow Chilli, Bogobiri House, Café nero etc are the most popular brands in Lagos and they are all owned by Nigerians.


Shoprite is very popular in Lagos but you should also know that Jumia and Konga are also very well known brands in Nigeria. Nigerians do a lot of e-commerce. Is e-commerce popular in Kenya?


Apart from that, do you think Shoprite, Hugo Boss, KFC etc are the movers and shakers of Lagos economy? grin

Are they the biggest brands in Lagos? grin

You must be joking. grin

http://www.financialnigeria.com/taking-a-bigger-bite-out-of-the-nigerian-qsr-industry-blog-17.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by shizzy7(f): 8:37am On Dec 17, 2016
solbil:


it appears the guy wasn't even a drug cartel in the first place.

To steal from a Nigerian, all the kenyans have to do is tell the world he is a drug lord. What nonsense!
The story is shady.
If he is found guilty, the Kenyan government has a right to confiscate his property.
There are some things these drug traffickers can't try in Asian countries.

Their rule of law is not transparent just like in every african countries.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by shizzy7(f): 8:40am On Dec 17, 2016
forgiveness:



Who told you KFC is biggest in Lagos? grin

E bi like say you dey lie. grin

Chicken Republic (branches in Ghana), Tantalizers, Tasty Fried chicken, Sweet sensation, Mr Bigs, Kilimanjaro, Mama_Cass ( with branches in UK), Club Quilox (most expensive club with restaurant in Lagos), Yellow Chilli, Bogobiri House, Café nero etc are the most popular brands in Lagos and they are all owned by Nigerians.


Shoprite is very popular in Lagos but you should also know that Jumia and Konga are also very well known brands in Nigeria. Nigerians do a lot of e-commerce. Is e-commerce popular in Kenya?


Apart from that, do you think Shoprite, Hugo Boss, KFC etc are the movers and shakers of Lagos economy? grin

Are they the biggest brands in Lagos? grin

You must be joking. grin

http://www.financialnigeria.com/taking-a-bigger-bite-out-of-the-nigerian-qsr-industry-blog-17.html
chicken Republic has been bought by a South African. Branches are owned by Nigerians were franchised.

Tantalizers and Mr.bigs are as good as dead.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by robosky02(m): 8:42am On Dec 17, 2016
all I see in Kenya is

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by shizzy7(f): 8:44am On Dec 17, 2016
robosky02:
all I see in Kenya is
grin grin grin grin the monkey is dancing skelewu...... Watsup....
Who eventually won the copa Lagos
Abegii give us sports update ooi.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by robosky02(m): 9:02am On Dec 17, 2016
shizzy7:
grin grin grin grin the monkey is dancing skelewu...... Watsup....
Who eventually won the copa Lagos
Abegii give us sports update ooi.


shizzy bae.................. tongue cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:15am On Dec 17, 2016
shizzy7:
chicken Republic has been bought by a South African. Branches are owned by Nigerians were franchised.

Tantalizers and Mr.bigs are as good as dead.


No, The South African company only bought shares.

You are right, but they are still trying.

Chicken Republic’s Parent Company Partners South African FMCG For Better Services


food concepts
Food Concepts Plc, a market leader in the West African food industry with top brands including Chicken Republic, Butterfield Bakery and Free Range Farms, has announced a partnership in its Baked Good Division, with Pioneer Foods; a leading South African Fast Moving Consumer Goods (FMCG) company.

Speaking on the partnership, Phil Roux, CEO Pioneer Foods said; “Butterfield provides an ideal opportunity to leverage our expertise to grow the bread category. Pioneer aims to be a leading FMCG company in Africa and Nigeria is a key market for any food company in search of growth,”

Chairman of Food Concepts Plc, Deji Akinyanju, said the partnership will benefit from the combination of the respective strengths which will be used to tap into the vast opportunities in the Nigerian FMCG sector to deliver extraordinary value to customers

Food Concepts was founded by Akinyanju, an entrepreneur, in 2001. The company, whose shareholders include International Finance Corporation (IFC), a World Bank member, and Development Partners International (DPI), a UK based private equity firm focused on African investments, continues to evolve in a remarkable story of a revolution in the Nigerian food sector.

The company recently demerged its Baked Goods Division into Food Concepts Pioneer Limited (FCPL). Pioneer Foods acquired 50.01% of FCPL while Food Concepts Plc retains 49.9%. FCPL will house Butterfield Bakeries, a baked goods business specializing in bread and sausage roll production. This will allow Pioneer Foods to leverage existing infrastructure and brand recognition — both crucial elements of consumer packaged-goods companies. Pioneer Foods will implement several operational changes to the Butterfield bakery to increase its efficiency and consistency.

Pionner Foods PTY Ltd is a leading South African FMCG company with a market cap of $3bn, it has globally trusted brands like Ceres Juice, ProNutro, Weet-Bix breakfast cereal etc. Pioneer already has a significant export footprint in a number of African countries, and the conclusion of this partnership with Food Concepts Plc creates an in-market presence for Pioneer Foods in Nigeria.


http://bizwatchnigeria.ng/chicken-republics-parent-company-partners-south-african-fmcg-for-better-services/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kongobi: 9:33am On Dec 17, 2016
when someone has been defeated or his ego has been deflated they resort to insults and name calling to ease the pain of facts

deep down they know the truth that will set them free towards a progressive society like Kenya that recognizes its problems and works to solve them

but they have a delusional ego attitude that only hurts them, where they push all the flaws under the carpet, and live in denial ,a perfect utopia that exists in their minds,

but the rest of the world sees , the rest of the African continent that they insult knows ,that its a nation that has a very narrow economic base, among the least diverse economies in the continent ,their economy is not proportional to their population compared to other African nations,

they import almost everything even their own oil is refined abroad, a slump in prices sends the entire thing into recession,

their retail,telecoms,mining even their newest cities is owned by foreigners yet they want to point toothpicks at others, there a big log in their eye remains.

nothing but a big man syndrome ,zero substance.

respect is not demanded it is earned,

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 9:46am On Dec 17, 2016
For a country like Nigeria that patronizes even basic food commodities is a clear indicator of a retrogressive backward nation. All other African countries are seemingly moving forward so fast yet Nigeria is stagnated in the 1980s rhetoric of we are giANT of Africa crap.... Am surprised the only notable bragging right most Nigerians have are in terms of poor population control and lack of family planning methods.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:49am On Dec 17, 2016
NairobiWalker:


Kenya is better than Nigeria in many but not all aspects. You beat us in things like population size, economy size, football, ugly people etc while w e have better living standards, better electricity supply, better education, better cities etc.


How many planned cities do you have on this list? None. grin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_community

How many universities do you have out of 200 best universities in Africa? grin


Remember, We have 54 countries in Africa. So, we should expect at least two top universities from these countries. Meaning 54 × 2 = 108, Substrate 108 from 200, it will remain 92 universities.
How many Nigerian universities are in the top 200? 16. Remove the initial 2, it remains 14.
Now, let us Substrate the 14 from 92 universities left to be shared among 54 countries, we have 78 remaining. Distribute it across 54 countries, it remains 25. Distribute it across the developed countries in Africa, as expected South Africa, Egypt, Algeria, should have the lion share but unfortunately, Kenya was able to get 2. 3 + the initial 2, Kenya has only 5 universities out of 200 universities. grin

Which country education is better between Nigeria and Kenya?

Obviously, Nigeria. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:38am On Dec 17, 2016
kongobi:
when someone has been defeated or his ego has been deflated they resort to insults and name calling to ease the pain of facts

deep down they know the truth that will set them free towards a progressive society like Kenya that recognizes its problems and works to solve them

but they have a delusional ego attitude that only hurts them, where they push all the flaws under the carpet, and live in denial ,a perfect utopia that exists in their minds,

but the rest of the world sees , the rest of the African continent that they insult knows ,that its a nation that has a very narrow economic base, among the least diverse economies in the continent ,their economy is not proportional to their population compared to other African nations,

they import almost everything even their own oil is refined abroad, a slump in prices sends the entire thing into recession,

their retail,telecoms,mining even their newest cities is owned by foreigners yet they want to point toothpicks at others, there a big log in their eye remains.

nothing but a big man syndrome ,zero substance.

respect is not demanded it is earned,



This is for you who is claiming our mining is controlled by foreigners, this for you who is claiming our telecommunications is controlled by foreigners (when we know Kenya only has 60 % in Safaricom the only... grin), the is for you who is claiming foreigners control our retail industry in Nigeria when we know Shoprite is only located in 10 cities out of 50 cities and several towns in Nigeria. shocked grin This is for you you who is thinking there no other sectors even bigger than the ones you listed. As you can see, we have indigenous companies more than Kenya in every sectors, sorry. grin


My final verdict on the strength of MNCs owned by Nigerians and Kenyans in every sectors which includes Oil and gas, Banking, Insurance, Retail, Hospitality, FCMG, Telecommunication, Technology, Engineering, etc is that Nigeria is ahead of Kenya in every sector of MNCs except Hospitality and.... . grin

First of all, let us start with Oil and gas.

OIL AND GAS

Kenya's best oil and gas company Kenolkobil, is the only MNCs in this sector with operations only in 11 African (majorly East Africa and South Africa) countries while Nigeria on the other hand has more MNCs in this sector with operations not only in Africa but Europe and America at large, giving them a global out look.

Oando Plc( West Africa, Toronto, USA, Joburg, South Africa and Nigeria),

Sahara group (Nigeria, U.K, Switzerland, U.A.E, Ghana, Cote D'Ivoire, Singapore),

Conoi plc,

Fort oil(Nigeria Ghana, London etc),

Erin petroleum Co (USA, China, Nigeria, Ghana and Gambia even Kenya),

Heyden( Nigeria, United Kingdom, Dubai, UAE, Cape Town, South Africa),

Obat Oil ( Europe and Africa)

SAPETRO Limited (Nigeria, Central Africa and East Africa)

NNPC
NLNG

TKO Nigeria won this contest



TELECOMMUNICATIONS

Safaricom is only a Kenyan based company while Glo mobile operations are in Nigeria, Ghana, Benin and Cote D'Ivoire.

Glo network also covers 170 countries in roaming services.

We still have Ntel and visafone

TKO Nigeria won again



BANKING


In Banking, Kenya KCB and Equity, Kenya's largest banks have operations in 7 & 6 countries in Eastern Africa respectively while Nigeria has many of its bank in many African countries and outside Africa. e.g

FirstBank is the biggest bank in Nigeria by total deposits and gross earnings and operates a network of over 750 business locations across Africa, the United Kingdom and representative offices in Abu Dhabi, Beijing, Johannesburg, South Africa, DR Congo, Ghana, Sierra Leon, Guinea, France and Senegal.

United Bank for Africa (UBA) Plc, is one of Africa's leading banking Groups with operations in 19 African countries and offices in three global financial centers: London, Paris and New York.

Zenith Bank maintains subsidiaries in the United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, Ghana, Sierra Leone and The Gambia, South Africa and China.

Access Bank Group; Nigeria, Burundi, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ghana, Rwanda, the Gambia, Sierra Leone, Zambia and the United Kingdom.[1] As of December 2015, Access Bank Group had assets in excess of US$13 billion.

GTBank plc has 231 branches, 17 Cash Centres, 18 e-branches, 35 GTExpress locations and more than 1165 ATMs in Nigeria. GTBank has expanded to Cote d'Ivoire, Gambia, Ghana, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Uganda, Kenya and Rwanda. These countries belong to the "Eco zone". It has also expanded to the United Kingdom. With the acquisition of a 70 per cent stake in Fina Bank GTBank expanded into the East African market as at December 2013. As a consequence, Fina Bank will now be renamed and rebranded as subsidiaries of GTB and.

These are just few among many.

Kenya banks have been overwhelmed by Nigerian banks

TKO Nigeria's banks won again.


INSURANCE

Britam group, à company offering insurance, asset management, banking and property investment has operations in 7 countries (Kenya, Uganda, South Sudan, Tanzania, Malawi, Rwanda and Mozambique) in Eastern and Southern Africa.

While.......
Industrial and General Insurance Company Plc is a leading provider of insurance and risk management services in West Africa. IGI is a large insurance services provider in Nigeria and through its subsidiaries, in Ghana, the Gambia, Rwanda and Uganda, London, UK and Washington, DC,USA, has a global company outlook than its Kenyan counterpart.

In addition, NICON Insurance with operations in Nigeria, Sao Tome and Principal, and London, UK.

MUTUAL is the flagship of insurance in Nigeria and runs a full-fledged insurance operation in Liberia and Republic of Niger

Continental Reinsurance has six client service centres in Nigeria, Cameroon, Cote d’Ivoire, Kenya, Tunisia and Botswana. From our Nigerian headquarters, we have grown a diversified portfolio in more than 44 countries, adding value wherever we go, and developing enduring partnerships premised on ‘Pan-African commitment made local’.


Another TKO, Nigeria won the insurance sector.



TECHNOLOGY

I don't know much about Kenya's Technology but looking at Nigeria's list of technology companies, it is intimidating. Nevertheless, until the Kenyans on this platform provides a more reputable ones than the ones Nigeria has, I will say it is walk over.


Interswitch is an Africa-focused integrated digital payments and commerce company that facilitates the electronic circulation of money as well as the exchange of value between individuals and organisations on a timely and consistent basis. It has operations in Nigeria, Uganda and Kenya. grin

MainOne” also known as “Main One Cable” or “Main One”) is a leading provider of innovative telecom services and network solutions for businesses in West Africa,and with operations in Nigeria, Ghana, South Africa, Mauritius and Portugal. TKO



TKO again. Nigeria won the technology contest. grin

If there is any our Kenya brothers doesn't agree let them point it out. grin


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Let me continue to compare both countries MNCs in every sector.

TRANSPORTATION

Aviation

Kenya is doing very well in this sector with Kenya airways as the major player.
Kenya Airways is one of Africa's largest airline company with operations in almost every African capital (44 destinations in Africa, 10 destinations in Asia and America 54 in total)

While Nigeria also have some major players in this sector

Arik air is the largest airline in Nigeria and it is privately owned by Nigerians. It flies to 15 destinations across Africa, Europe and America.


Med View airways is also a privately owned by Nigerians with operations in Europe, Africa and Asia. London, UK, Jebbah and

Slok air was initially established in Nigeria before it was relocated to Gambia. Its destinations are, Ghana, Sierra Leon, Guinea, Senegal, Cote D'Ivoire, Liberia, Mali and Cote D'Ivoire.


Kenya won it



Road transport

Nigeria has a lot of companies plying the west Africa corridors. ABC transport; Ghana, Togo, Nigeria and Benin

Cross Country transport limited; Ghana, Togo, Nigeria and Benin

Chisco Transport; Ghana, Togo, Benin and Nigeria

Young shall grow transport; Ghana, Togo, Benin, Mali, Burkina Faso, Cote D'Ivoire and Nigeria

Efex Executive; Togo, Ghana, Nigeria, Benin and Cote D'Ivoire

GUO Motors; Ghana, Benin, Nigeria, Togo, Senegal and Cote D'Ivoire etc.

Until I see Kenyans MNCs in this sector, it is a walk over

Nigeria won

Holistically speaking, Nigeria has an edge over Kenya because both are developed in Nigeria.

Therefore, Nigeria won the Transportation sector.



RETAIL

In this sector, Kenya has two MNCs in this sector.

Nakumatt is the largest retailers from Kenya have operations in 6 (mostly East African) countries and
Tuskys which is one of the large supermarket chains in the Great Lakes Area. Kenya and Uganda to be specific.

While Nigeria has two types of shopping malls, the online shopping and the normal shopping.

JUMIA is a Nigerian online shopping site for a wide range of electronics, fashion, home appliances and kid’s items. As of 2015, Jumia has warehouses in ten other countries, including: Egypt, Morocco, Kenya, Cote d'Ivoire, Uganda, Ghana, Cameroon, United Kingdom, Tanzania and Angola.

Konga is also a Nigerian online shopping site. It has warehouses in Nigeria and Ghana.

Silverbird group has a retail stores in Nigeria, Ghana and Kenya.

Nigeria won this one too.


QSR


I don't know much about Kenyan Quick service restaurant and that will bring to conclusion that Nigeria is ahead.

Chicken Republic is a Nigerian quick service restaurant with operations in Nigeria and Ghana.


Nigeria won again.


To be continued.


From what I am seeing here Nigeria is on top.
I want our Kenyan brothers to do the remaining sectors. FCMG, Hospitality, Business, Construction/Engineering and whichever sector you feel is missing.

Let us settle the scores. Once and for all. grin

So, far these facts have not been disproved by any Kenyan here.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ProudlyKenyan: 11:21am On Dec 17, 2016
Nigeria the Africa giant failure is rank 169th in "Ease of Doing Business" by World Bank

Nigeria ranked 138th position in terms of Starting a Business, 174th position in terms of Getting Construction Permit, 180th position in terms of Getting electricity, 182nd position in terms of Registering Property, 44th position in terms of Getting Credit, 32nd position in terms of Protecting minority investors, 182nd position in terms of Paying Taxes, 181st position in terms of Trading Across Borders, 139th position in terms of Enforcing Contracts, and 140th position in terms of Resolving insolvency

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/nigeria-ranks-169th-position-world-bank-ease-business/

Meanwhile Kenya -without any mineral or oil is ranked 92th - with only South Africa beating her in top africa economies together with Rwanda,Botswana and Mauritus Africa. Kenya was amongst the world most improved for second year ranking and now target top 50 -in ease of doing business.

Suffice to say there is NO indicator where Nigeria beat kenya. Even with banking (which Nigeria has worked on); ease of getting credit in kenya is ranks 28 out 180 countries while nigeria is 43.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ProudlyKenyan: 11:24am On Dec 17, 2016
Kenya's world class gov service - with citizen served in modern halls & offices - with most government services digitized and payment through mobile money (M-pesa).

At Huduma (swahili for service) -one stop center - you can get any gov service at modern offices.




[img]https://2.bp..com/-LuwZg3UdBko/VzbQDmBCj8I/AAAAAAAAABM/LHV5wgxRnOkY2L4GpdYwkf-F-0e7C6lvwCKgB/s1600/IMG_20160513_153559.jpg[/img]

Even people living in slums like Kibera enjoy gov services

You sometimes get served tea as you renew your documents.

Orderly queue with automatic ticket systems -

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Fidha254(m): 11:43am On Dec 17, 2016
#000000
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ProudlyKenyan: 11:44am On Dec 17, 2016
Tried searching for digital gov service in Nigeria and nothing comes out (story for another day - in Kenya you can apply for nearly anything digitally, pay for it and get the service) grin well it turns out they haven't even done the digital TV migration smiley smiley Kenya long time turned off the analogoue signal

From about 10 TV stations - we have spawned 50 channels plus thanks to digital migration.
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000185483/how-digital-migration-has-turned-kenya-into-a-pay-tv-country

Kenya's manyatta have digital TV

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darknetcom: 11:46am On Dec 17, 2016
kongobi:
when someone has been defeated or his ego has been deflated they resort to insults and name calling to ease the pain of facts

deep down they know the truth that will set them free towards a progressive society like Kenya that recognizes its problems and works to solve them

but they have a delusional ego attitude that only hurts them, where they push all the flaws under the carpet, and live in denial ,a perfect utopia that exists in their minds,

but the rest of the world sees , the rest of the African continent that they insult knows ,that its a nation that has a very narrow economic base, among the least diverse economies in the continent ,their economy is not proportional to their population compared to other African nations,

they import almost everything even their own oil is refined abroad, a slump in prices sends the entire thing into recession,

their retail,telecoms,mining even their newest cities is owned by foreigners yet they want to point toothpicks at others, there a big log in their eye remains.

nothing but a big man syndrome ,zero substance.

respect is not demanded it is earned,




we dont need your respect...

go hug a tree...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ProudlyKenyan: 11:54am On Dec 17, 2016
Africa giant where everything is faked is still struggling to get National ID system. How do they even authenticate anything. Nearly every kenyan adult(+18) carries a national ID and that is what you use for ANY transaction - which is why stuff like mpesa thrives. Gov collects fingerprints and Id plus your biometrics is used. The system is water-tight enough to be trusted by anyone.

Kenya ID system since before independence


Nigeria fledging attempt at national id system - that is still not used widely grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darknetcom: 11:57am On Dec 17, 2016
ProudlyKenyan:
Africa giant where everything is faked is still struggling to get National ID system. How do they even authenticate anything. Nearly every kenyan adult(+18) carries a national ID and that is what you use for ANY transaction - which is why stuff like mpesa thrives. Gov collects fingerprints and Id plus your biometrics is used. The system is water-tight enough to be trusted by anyone.

Kenya ID system since before independence


Nigeria fledging attempt at national id system - that is still not used widely grin


hahaha..a mastercard id...now thats funny... grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ProudlyKenyan: 12:08pm On Dec 17, 2016
Huduma center - Gov one stop shop for 55 different services -with one center located in nearly every major town.
http://www.hudumakenya.go.ke/charter.html



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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by robosky02(m): 12:18pm On Dec 17, 2016
ProudlyKenyan:
Huduma center - Gov one stop shop for 55 different services -with one center located in nearly every major town.
http://www.hudumakenya.go.ke/charter.html
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what is this lol grin

this look like the old post office in Nigeria

abeg you guys should upgrade

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ProudlyKenyan: 12:25pm On Dec 17, 2016
Matters taxes - Nigeria has the world worst tax to gdp ratio (about 4%) or about 6%(if you include oil) - inclusive of federal, state and local taxes - while Kenya - which again doesn't have any mineral or oil - has impressive GDP tax ratio of 21-22%.It reason kenya with 45m people has about the same money to spend with nigeria's Africa giant with 180m people (lots of fakery) and lots of oil.

Every kenya is required to fill his tax returns - whether working or not.

Kenya Revenue Authority HQ- Times Tower.

[img]https://natekev.files./2012/08/3266998401_e671709be5_b.jpg[/img]
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:29pm On Dec 17, 2016
wow so Kilimanjaro is Nigeria's favorite and fastest growing restaurant chain. Privately owned by Nigerians ?, its management is made up of a team of young and dynamic professionals with wide range of exposure and experience obtained from within and outside the food industry. From our humble beginnings with a single restaurant in Port Harcourt, the restaurant chain has spread to several other locations in Port Harcourt and Abuja with many more in the pipeline for other cities around the country. "We aim to bring our unique and popular food and services closer to families around the country and someday, the African continent at large. We believe that every family has the right to the Kilimanjaro experience." Kilimanjaro restaurants feature the highest quality food and beverage, offer competitively pricing and superior services in a comfortable atmosphere which guarantees a memorable experience to all our esteemed customers.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kongobi: 12:35pm On Dec 17, 2016
robosky02:



what is this lol grin

this look like the old post office in Nigeria

abeg you guys should upgrade


that won the prestigious United Nations Public Service Award in the category of Improving the Delivery of Public Services last year.

that is a one stop centre for all government services that cant be done online located in every county and urban centre in the country,

that has grown to 38 operational centres, which serve over 35,000 people per day and over 15 million people served from inception two years ago to date.

total revenue collected through Huduma Centres as at June 2015 was over Sh12 billion from November 2013 when the programme started.




Huduma wins UN global award for excellence in service delivery :http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2015/06/huduma-wins-global-award-for-excellence-in-service-delivery/

Close to 16 African states studying Huduma Centre concept : https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000207490/close-to-16-african-states-studying-huduma-centre-concept

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:35pm On Dec 17, 2016
68816419:
wow so Kilimanjaro is Nigeria's favorite and fastest growing restaurant chain. Privately owned by Nigerians ?, its management is made up of a team of young and dynamic professionals with wide range of exposure and experience obtained from within and outside the food industry. From our humble beginnings with a single restaurant in Port Harcourt, the restaurant chain has spread to several other locations in Port Harcourt and Abuja with many more in the pipeline for other cities around the country. "We aim to bring our unique and popular food and services closer to families around the country and someday, the African continent at large. We believe that every family has the right to the Kilimanjaro experience." Kilimanjaro restaurants feature the highest quality food and beverage, offer competitively pricing and superior services in a comfortable atmosphere which guarantees a memorable experience to all our esteemed customers.

whalahi i never knew Kilimanjaro restaurants is owned by Nigerians, great....Kenya also have a franchising Kilimanjaro restaurants...Nigeria is taking over!!! grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:43pm On Dec 17, 2016
mkenya254:


Nigga please. Phased out my foot. Someone please take a picture of that filthy station dump at Yaba near Ozone where there is some forex black market. Filthy place with the largest congestion of these yellow abominations


brouhaha.... still lying grin i thought you went there and how comes you didn't take some pictures your self?, plus, when will slummy congested Nairobi get a BRT system, Tanzania already have theirs? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:43pm On Dec 17, 2016
ProudlyKenyan:
Africa giant where everything is faked is still struggling to get National ID system. How do they even authenticate anything. Nearly every kenyan adult(+18) carries a national ID and that is what you use for ANY transaction - which is why stuff like mpesa thrives. Gov collects fingerprints and Id plus your biometrics is used. The system is water-tight enough to be trusted by anyone.

Kenya ID system since before independence


Nigeria fledging attempt at national id system - that is still not used widely grin


That's why fraud thrives in Nigeria too. People can move around with different identities which the government cannot verify. There is no fraud in Kenya that cannot be traced to its architect. I see MMM has come to Kenya. It's going to be interesting to watch how it's planners execute their thievery cool cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:45pm On Dec 17, 2016
NairobiWalker:


At least he speaks the truth. Unlike you who claims to have lived in Karen (which you can obviously not afford) and Westlands yet can't get anything about them right.

hahahah[b] nigga i can sponsor the whole of your family for more than 20years [/b]
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:46pm On Dec 17, 2016
NairobiWalker:


1℅ is a large stretch my Friend. Honestly can you really say you know of anyone who banks with UBA for instance? I am pretty sure you know over 100 people in your life...lol. There banks are probably here to Carter for Nigerians living here and many of them are contemplating to close shop.

how about GTbnk ?

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