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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 2:05pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
brocab:Part of the truth you know is: 1. Jesus is the Almighty God. 2. That the spirit being on the left hand side of Jesus is of no use to mankind. 3. That Jehovah means Lord. 4. That 1 Corinthians 11:3 has no basis whatsoever in modern day Bible verses since Jesus is the Almighty God he(Jesus) simply cannot have a head as well. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 2:55pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 7:51pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 2:57pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
brocab:difference between video and this thread. 1. you can discuss on points brought forward on this thread, you can't discuss with a video 2. you can ask questions, seek better explanations with someone posting on this thread, you can't do it with a video. So what makes you true to your words, everything you have written has caused an argument between the Word Of God and your father the devil.It's the scriptures brocab, the scriptures helps us to know if our words are true or false. For example I've used to scriptures to identify who the only true God, the one true God is, I quoted where he was identified in the scriptures, where the scriptures directly, without modification, without indirect analogy call this person the only true God, the one God, our God. adding anything extra to those direct words would only resort to falsehood. You do not accept who the scriptures say and directly identifies as the only true God, you do accept who the disciples call our one God! The only problem you have-you don't reason very well, even after the answers are written down, you are to blind to see them, reason, because they are not written in your Magazine.I've never seen anyone who would go to any lent so as not to answer simple questions in the way it was asked like you are trying to do. There was a time I asked you to explain up to like 10 scriptures, every time I asked you to explain them, you vehemently refuse. And the fact is, it is not a lie-but the truth. JW's are not allowed to study any other bible's, nor with anybody out side their organisation, but only their own.STOP LYING BROCAB! you yourself can see that you still refuse to quote psalms 83: 18 from the kjv. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 3:12pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
achorladey:answer that question yourself |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 3:19pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
achorladey:Answer your stupid question yourself. How does this relate to what I posted. U pull up a single verse and use it to anull other verses. I bet you already know that Jesus is the Almighty God cause you couldn't falter it. Keep living in denial |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 3:28pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
achorladey:I guess you read the bible upsidedown.I knew you would be shocked by the truth. Jesus is Almighty God U know nothing about the bible. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 3:36pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
Barristter07:we Christians know that Yahweh is Lord, so don't give yourself headache for that. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 3:42pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
dolphinheart:shame on you dolphinheart, everyone knows you are the liar. You are becoming more absurd by the day. Facts are presented to you which you always ignore only to start your usual accusation. If the scriptures call yahweh the only true God does it not make other gods false gods? Yet you cannot answer. Shm |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 3:44pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
brocab:I got it from the scriptures and it is not rubbish, jesus did give up his spirit and the scriptures said so. In providing a ramsome sacrifice, jesus gave his life and died, this are not derived statements , this are directs statements from the scriptures which you cannot refute or give contrary explanation. Dolphinheart-2. HE GAVE UP HIS SPIRITyes the above are true, jesus died after giving up the ghost (as said in kjv), it did not say jesus was still alive but only his flesh died. resurrection is for the dead! 3. JESUS GAVE UP HIS LIFEanother true fact supported by the scriptures. In your bid to run away from the scriptures you can't explain , you removed some scriptures I quoted to you when you typed my own post in your reply 1. do not understand why Jesus said the words above, pls start by reading this verse below Heb 5:7 During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. 2. but we know that the scriptures and Jesus did not lie, therefore it is you that is lying, trying to give false doctrines by twisting the scriptures. 1Jo 3:16By this we have come to know love, because that one surrendered his life for us, and we are under obligation to surrender our lives for our brothers. Joh 15:13No one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends. 2and go on walking in love, just as the Christ also loved us and gave himself for us as an offering and a sacrifice, a sweet fragrance to God. From reading the scriptures above, and many more not quoted, a sincere person will know that Jesus gave up more than just his flesh! If Jesus didn't give up His Spirit-then why did God raise Him up from the dead {Acts 2:24, 1 Corinthians 6:14, Romans 8:11} {Mark 16:19} After the Lord had spoken unto them {Disciples} He was received up into heaven.No one said jesus did not give up his spirit, therefore your question is off point. God raised jesus from the dead because jesus was dead! shame on you brocab, in other to hide a very important point from Mark 16:19, you refused to fully quote it, you are full of dubious behaviours. King James Bible So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. WE ALL KNOW FULLY WELL THAT JESUS IS NOT THE GOD HE IS SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF! We all know also that JESUS ascension to heaven to meet his God, our God, the only true God, the most high God, occurred after his resurrection, not while he was dead! So you believe Jesus no-longer exist-once He gave up His Spirit that's it "finished?as a person yes, the scriptures says when your spirit goes out, your thoughts perish! I say not bad for a dead man-after He was crucified, and He was later seen by His disciples, "alive" and living, and God had taken Him up unto Heaven, and Jesus sits on God's right hand side?Your dubious ways wunt allow you to acknowledge that jesus resurrected from the dead before he was later seen alive and living. you keep denying the fact that jesus gave his life in exchange for us. You still try avoid The questions and refuse to explain the scriptures shown to you. THE QUESTIONS ARE STILL PENDING, YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER THEM. THE QUESTIONS ARE SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND, STOP YOUR DUBIOUS TACTICS, THE QUESTIONS ARE SIMPLE AND ARE NUMBERED , ANSWER IT! 1.How do we know the truth if two people give contrary answers and both claim God spirit told them? 2. Jo 5:20And we know that the (1) Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know (2) him that is true, and we are in (3) him that is true, (4) even in (5) his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. now brocab, pls tell us: 2A. who is "the son of God" in (1) above, coloured red 2B. who is the "him" in (2) above, coloured blue 2C. who is the "him" in (3) above , coloured red 2D. what do you understand by the underlined "even In his son" in (4) 2E. who is the "his " in 5 above , coloured blue. (2)YOU COULD NOT SUBSTANTIATE YOUR ACCUSATION BY POINTING TO A SCRIPTURE THAT I HAVE TWISTED IN THAT POST. (3)YON COULD NOT DENY MY ACCUSATIONS IN THAT POST. (4) YOU COULD NOT GIVE CONTRARY EXPLANATION TO ANY SCRIPTURE I QUOTED IN THAT POST (5) YOU COULD NOT EXPLAIN THE SCRIPTURES OR FAULT MY EXPLANATION WHEN I USED THE SCRIPTURES TO SHOW YOU WHO THE TRUE GOD IS, WHO THE ONE GOD IS. [b]Jesus HIMSELF IDENTIFIED WHO THE TRUE GOD IS. Joh 17:3This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. * Jesus identified the true to you, his next words excludes him from the only person who is the true God, the true God sent him, the true God did not send himself, he sent his servant! THE DISCIPLES IDENTIFY WHO THE ONE GOD IS 1Co 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. THE SCRIPTURES TELL US WHO Jesus IS IN RELATION TO THAT ONE GOD 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, brocab , Jesus is the mediator between our one God and men , that is also comfirmed by the scriptures below Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us. Our one God is not pleading with himself!. read Heb 7:25, 1Jo 2:1 below is the scripture I quoted, a scripture you cannot explain : 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, And I supported my explanation of that scripture with the following scripture. [b]Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us. read Heb 7:25, 1Jo 2:1 Heb 9:24For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, [color=blue]so that he now appears before God on our behalf. The above verses are true brocab, even Daniel saw the vision of the son of man being granted audience with the ancient of days! Jesus appears before God , Jesus is not God that he appears before! |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by seeromy(m): 4:46pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
I am a JW ,and I thank all with their honest and sincere comment ,if you have any Bible question, pls post it. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 5:04pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
solite3:I did not accuse you wrongly , and I'll prove it by pointing to questions I've asked you and you did not answer (1.) 12:24am On Dec 01 [b]A. "the scriptures tells us that Jesus was given that power, maybe you missed that part. despite that power given to him, he is still subjected to his God. do you know who is God is?" B. "Is Jesus not a servant of God, I remember Jehovah calling Jesus his servant in his prophecy?" C. "what the difference between begotten son and son?" D. "brocab your brother does not believe Jesus is the son of God, why you guys have different beliefs?" (2) 3:41pm On Nov 26 A. "if Satan is not a god, plus tell us who is the god of this world?" (3) 11:47am On Nov 13 A. "Ps 82:1God takes his place in the divine assembly; In the middle of the gods he judges: explain the above verse!" B."De 10:17 For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the God great, mighty, and awe-inspiring, who treats none with partiality and does not accept a bribe. Is Jehovah a God of false God's? answer : NO!, So who are the gods that Jehovah is a God of?" (4) : 1:20pm On Nov 10 A.. "Are you saying God is in the midst of false God's?" B "so which heaven was that verse talking about?" C "who did that verse identify as our God?" D "who did Jesus identify as the only true God?" pls confirm if the following answers are right or wrong, your refusal to confirm means they are right E. "did Jesus say he and the father are one God? No" F. "Did jess request that his disciples be one just as he and the father are one? Yes" G. "does the disciples being one mean they are one person or human? No" H. "did Jesus request that the disciples become one with him and the father? Yes" I. "Does this mean they become God? no?" J. "does this mean they become one God or part of the persons in one god? No" K." you scratched my statement, are you saying they are false, are you saying Jehovah sits in the midst of false gods? Your answer is very important." L."pls snow where I said " the devil is God" M. "I asked a simple question, you refused to answer: Is the god of these world an idol?"[/b] The evidence of questions I asked you and you refused to answer, plus the date and time they where asked on this thread are provided above. Note that they are listed and numbered. pls post where you answered each one and the answer you gave so that all can see if you answered or tried to divert from answering. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 5:13pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
brocab:are you saying he does not remove parts of my posts, expecially scriptures I quoted when quoting me?, do you want to lie again with glaring evidences that he does edit my post when quoting me? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 5:26pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
solite3:and yet you could not bring up one instance where I lied You are becoming more absurd by the day. Facts are presented to you which you always ignore only to start your usual accusation.give me one instance of facts given that I ignored. If the scriptures call yahweh the only true God does it not make other gods false gods? Yet you cannot answer. ShmI've answered you and I will answer you again, the answer is no! |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:29pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
Try proving your evidence before blaming-That is right he doesn't do it-because you don't write anything in the first place. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:40pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 6:27pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
So you are saying Yahweh doesn't mean Lord-then I have the rights to say you recognise Jehovah as God-then you call Him God God.. Look up the true meaning to Yahweh in your dictionary? Barristter07: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:41pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
Answer them again? dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:57pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 6:52pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
How sad-you are about to face the condemnation of Hell, but Join in-and make a mockery out from yourself, like the rest of you fools do. Lie like the wind-come and settle your non Christian beliefs to the world.. Tell us why you sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, and yet you refuse Him {1 Peter 3:15} Tell us why in {Jude 1:9} When Michael the archangel had a dispute against the devil-Michael couldn't rebuke him, but Ask the Lord Jesus to rebuke Him for Michael. How can this be? When the JW's believe Jesus is Michael the archangel in the flesh? So who is this other Michael the archangel? And who is the Lord who can rebuke the devil ![]() JW's believe the Lord is Jehovah..Not Jesus...And did God walk this earth... seeromy: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:42pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 7:13pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
Jesus body died-but not His Spirit.. And God raised up His body from the dead...Seen by the disciples and of course we can't forget Thomas who said My Lord and My God, and Jesus didn't rebuke him, they also seen Jesus going up into the clouds. If Jesus isn't God-Then who is {Isaiah 9:6} talking about-For a Child is born, and a Son is Given, and the Government shall be upon His shoulder, His name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of peace. Who carries this description? "Jehovah God" Was it He who came into this world in the flesh? Or was it Emmanuel? dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:09pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
It is only your say, you are to blind to see the truth who Jesus is-I suppose you couldn't keep up with the times only because you can't keep up with your own lies upon lies you give, when loosing the battle. Listen you will never win against the Word of God-He has already won the battle. How many times do we write scripture upon scripture-that's written Jesus is the Son of God. How many times have we proven to you Jesus said I and the Father are One? How many times-was Jesus referred too-to be God in the flesh, a Child is born, and He shall be called Emanuel "Meaning God with us"..How many times have I written down {Isaiah 9:6} A Son is born, a Child is given, a child-who is called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The prince of Peace.. And their is no other God besides Me. Then who gave the Child these names above?.. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 8:26pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 8:49pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
brocab:ill show you evidence look at my post on 4:28pm On Dec 13 then look how it was heavily edited with deliberate removal of scriptures when he quoted that post on 1:33am On Dec 14 the quote below is my post, the parts in red are the parts that was removed so that he could respond As expected, you refused to answer the questions even after it was asked several times.BROCAB, CAN YOU SEE THE LOW LEVEL YOU AND YOUR BROTHER HAD RESORT TO, YOU HAD TO ALTER MY POST, EDITING OUT A LARGE PART OF IT,(ALL THOSE WRITTEN IN RED)EXPECIALLY THE PARTS THAT CONTAIN SCRIPTURES THAT EXPOSES YOU SO THAT YOU REPLY. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 8:39pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
Solite3 solite3:the post you quote discuss the statement Yahweh means Lord NOT Yahweh is Lord, Yahweh is Lord is different from Yahweh Means Lord , so learn to comprehend well next time sir |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 8:41pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
solite3:How do you expect me to answer the question? Aren't you the person that said Jesus had a primary and secondary nature? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 8:44pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
Brocab brocab:Do you now admit Yahweh means Lord is a false statement ? If Yahweh means Lord, answer this three questions : 1) Hazael the King of Syria called Elisha Lord @ 2king 8:12 , does it mean Elisha is Yahweh ? 2) Aaron called Moses Lord @ Numbers 12:11, tell me , Moses is Yahweh ? 3) I peter 3:6 " as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord" , so Sarah was calling Abraham Yahweh since she called him Lord ? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 8:54pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
solite3:For your own mind bah, keep revelling in you lack of comprehension of the scriptures. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 9:05pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
solite3:Let me tell what I know Exodus 6:3, Daniel 7:13 Psalms 83:18. Who is the Almighty? Who is the Most high? Who is ancient of days, What is his name? Simple question deserve simple answers....... JEHOVAH. Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Simple question his name JEHOVAH his son's name Jesus christ. I have answered my stupid question. What else!!! |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 9:20pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
solite3:Even Agur the son of Jakeh knows far more than you know. Shaking my head for you. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Emusan(m): 10:59pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
achorladey:You asked questions and I said I'm ready to answer them but before I do that can you just say Yes or No to my simple question? Very simple because the question I asked you will be used to buttress my answer to yours! |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:01pm On Dec 18, 2016*. Modified: 11:18pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
I asked you a question? So I expect you to answer it. What is the meaning to Yahweh "YHWH" in your own words tell us who is Yahweh. Just a little history here, because of God's name being so holy that the fear of mispronouncing it, Israel preferred to use the substituted the word "odonay" {Lord} for YHWH when reading from the Torah.. Using "Yahweh as Jehovah" any church that uses Jehovah is misinformed and using this name for God is unbiblical.. Barristter07: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:22pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
No-one like you knows the bible well enough, none of you are like solite3 who himself is a true man of God.. achorladey: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:45pm On Dec 18, 2016 |
Then you must know {1 Timothy 3:16} God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up in glory.. You also must know {Isaiah 9:6} For a child is born, a Son is Given, and the Government shall be upon His shoulders, His name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, The God Mighty, The everlasting Father, The Prince of peace. And of course last of all, surely you had missed this one-{Revelations 1:7-8} Behold He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pieced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so Amen.. I Am the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end, say's the Lord, who is and who was, and who is to come. Almighty... Lets not forget no-one has seen God at anytime, so who is this stranger with great power coming in the clouds? achorladey: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 4:06am On Dec 19, 2016 |
dolphinheart:lie lie dolphinheart, crying again-still of course I remove much of your confusion from your post and reply to the things I want to talk about what a lie lie false accuser but when you lie you are talking naturally |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 4:15am On Dec 19, 2016 |
dolphinheart:I'm sure bro like me could fill posts of all your lies if we wanted to waste the time looking back one instance you say, OK off the top of my head recently you posted that it's not Jesus talking in certain revelation verses, I showed you that it indeed was Jesus talking, and of course you could not admit your wrong. there's one instance lie lie dolphinheart |
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