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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by heybee72(m): 10:31pm On Dec 22, 2016
They should have atleast given her another course like physiology.... And if she doesn't want, face school Park and go and come and write another jamb

Kendzyma:
This is coming from a nairalander with d Monika Adesegunfat


My name is Adesegun Fatusi, and I am the Provost of the College of Health Sciences, OAU, Ile-Ife. The case of the Aror Oghenerukewve has just been brought to my notice. To throw more light on her case, I will present the detaild fact here.

With a score of 320, her mark from UTME amounts to 80% (i.e. 320/400 x 100)
Her school cert results are: English A1 (=8 marks); Biology C4 (=5 marks); Chemistry B3 (=6 marks); Maths B3 (=6 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Further Maths B2 (=7marks), and Civic Educ A1 (=8 marks). That gives her 45 points, or 70.3% (i.e. 44/64x100)

So her overall average - as OAU did a combination of 50% mark from JAMB and 50% mark from School Cert - is: (80+70.3)=75.15% (which we rounded up to 75.2%).

With that mark, she ranks number 103 on the list of the students who took Medicine as first Choice.

The total admission quota for Medicine in OAU is 100, and that includes UTME and Direct Entry).

Clearly although Aror did well, her mark was NOT good enough to earn her admission on merit to read Medicine in Ife. Her mark of 75.2% is clearly below our cut-off mark (which was initially 78%, but we later reduced to 77.7%). Between her mark of 75.2% and 77.7%, by the way, there were 56 other candidates who scored higher than her but did not make the cut-off. For example, two people had 77.6%, two other people had 77.5%, four people had 77.4% etc.
Having presented the detailed facts about Aror's case, let me also help the many young Nigerians who may be accessing this site with more information on admission as I see a lot of misrepresentation, falsehood, and misunderstanding from the comments that various people had made on this case.

1. Admission into Nigerian Universities are considered on three grounds based on the nationally specified criteria (which I think ought to be reviewed now, by the way):
A. Merit =45% (This covers all candidates from the country - and it is automatic admission once you meet the cut-off mark)
B. Catchment = 35% (this refers to those in the states specified as catchment area for each University: For OAU, that is Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Osun and Ekiti)
C. Educationally disadvantaged states (ELDS)=20% = This refers to all the 19 Northern States, and Ebonyi, Rivers and Bayelsa.

So, someone from Delta such as Aror with 75.2% will not get admission into Medicine in OAU automatically as she is only considered on merit criterion and she does NOT meet the specified cut-off, but someone with the same mark from Kwara (which is in the North Central zone) may get automatic admission with the same mark based on the consideration of ELDS if 75.2% is the specified cut-off for ELDS for Medicine.

2. When a candidate chooses a highly competitive course like Medicine in a top-rated University like OAU, the competition is very intense. Believe it or not, many of the candidates that made our merit mark had an average of six A1s in school cert coupled with very high UTME mark (above 300). So, a candidate must carefully think over his choice of course and university. For example, if Aror had chosen ANY other course as her first choice for OAU, whe would have made the merit mark and gotten automatic admission, and she would have made the merit mark for Medicine on merit for most Nigerian universities too (but NOT OAU unfortunately).

3. Because of the high demand and competition for very limited spaces, the College of Health Sciences does not consider second choices as a general rule. OAU, for example, was only able to offer admission on UTME platform (Merit + Catchment + ELDS) to less than 3% of her applicants for Medicine, and less than 2% of her applicants for Nursing Science this year.

4. For cases like Aror where the candidadte has made a high mark but does not make the cut-off, what the candidate can sometimes do is to come to the University and try and see if he or she can be considered for other courses. A candidadte DOES NOT get considered automatically for a course she has not applied to in JAMB. A candidadte is ONLY automatically considered for the course he or she has applied for with respect to a particular university.

Unfortunately, Aror has left her case too late as all admission lists have been submitted for this year.
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Source:https://www.nairaland.com/3532584/girl-laments-over-inability-secure/4
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Nobody: 10:32pm On Dec 22, 2016
chronique:
Hmmm. Reminds me of when I wanted to enter unilag at all cost. Instead of applying to other schools where I could be considered, I kept filling lag and Ife as first and second choice. None of them considered me.



Lol. Sorry bro, where are you now?
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by duni04(m): 10:33pm On Dec 22, 2016
I finished from OAU and I'm not buying into this crap. OAU like other Federal UNIs has 1st, 2nd and 3rd supplementary lists with people who have scored way way lower than the girl in question.
Be that as it may, the girl was thinking she was dealing with an ideal situation and an utopian society where rules are strictly adhered to and where people are considered based on their abilities. That is sadly not the case. Knowing the kind of society we're in and with an excellent score like that, she should have pushed her case and maybe pulled some strings to get in.
320! what a waste!

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by paulo220(m): 10:33pm On Dec 22, 2016
I challenge the provost to go ahead And publish the list He explained,before I will believe him. thanks

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by kessler53(m): 10:34pm On Dec 22, 2016
Josephnice:
I don't just buy into this vague calculus theorem of the so called provost to deny this girl her admission. Lecturers are so smart in formulating excuses in cover up of their partiality. Whichever way u solve the equation, this girl deserve a place in the merit list
true talk,because if na Buhari's daughter that have such a result will u give this excuse?

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by bizza45: 10:34pm On Dec 22, 2016
u guys should look closely and u will c that physics was written twice.... d provost made his case clear and sound.... if una no like am make una sue d school.. one thing I know is that oau aren't biased when choosing their med&surg students ... she no make am b say she no make am ... and there is nothing nairalanders can do about it.... if u like shout from now till d end of time..... NOTHING

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Akandu50(m): 10:34pm On Dec 22, 2016
because na Nigerian girl. if na oyinbo u kn na
ndi ara
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by thinkative: 10:35pm On Dec 22, 2016
Godprotectigbos:
Rubbish




Even if is true y not give her lower course



Tribalism in highest order

sorry. this has nothing to do with tribalism!

competition for courses like medicine, law and accounting is very high. the school is relatively cheap (I paid 5300 per session to study accounting btw 2008 and 2013). coupled with the prestige, competition can lead to cases like this.

I met lots of people from all over Nigeria at ife. even Ghanaians and people from Cameroon. I was taught by lecturers from different Nigerian tribes. The school is a melting pot of cultures.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by buffalowings: 10:35pm On Dec 22, 2016
Dreyl:
Nonsense!

Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Infoay: 10:35pm On Dec 22, 2016
But nah waahhh ooooo hmmmmmm...... una for still temper una justice with mercy nahhhh
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by adedehinbo(m): 10:35pm On Dec 22, 2016
korel9:
What's her name sef? sad
u no get sense
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by ogwoliun: 10:36pm On Dec 22, 2016
Maths=B3; Further Maths=B2. See ENGINEER by Birth want to become MEDICAL DOCTOR by force.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by buffalowings: 10:37pm On Dec 22, 2016
blessedvisky:

MMM major!! Your own na 7 M's. Twale baba

There are so many clowns on nl grin grin

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by cstr19: 10:38pm On Dec 22, 2016
heybee72:
They should have atleast given her another course like physiology.... And if she doesn't want, face school Park and go and come and write another jamb

She was just 80 marks shy of a perfect jamb score shocked.
Getting physiology would have been a waste.
She is smart enough to study medicine. And that is what is what she should strive for.
Though It is near impossible for her to get close to 320 again. Why is why she has to pursue it now to a logical conclusion.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by hotice01: 10:38pm On Dec 22, 2016
Drdonzeez:
This man doesn't know maths..Its obvious from the modality that the girl had 79% .
U are right!
This is daylight robbery!

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by paulo220(m): 10:40pm On Dec 22, 2016
Kendzyma:
This is coming from a nairalander with d Monika Adesegunfat


My name is Adesegun Fatusi, and I am the Provost of the College of Health Sciences, OAU, Ile-Ife. The case of the Aror Oghenerukewve has just been brought to my notice. To throw more light on her case, I will present the detaild fact here.

With a score of 320, her mark from UTME amounts to 80% (i.e. 320/400 x 100)
Her school cert results are: English A1 (=8 marks); Biology C4 (=5 marks); Chemistry B3 (=6 marks); Maths B3 (=6 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Further Maths B2 (=7marks), and Civic Educ A1 (=8 marks). That gives her 45 points, or 70.3% (i.e. 44/64x100)

So her overall average - as OAU did a combination of 50% mark from JAMB and 50% mark from School Cert - is: (80+70.3)=75.15% (which we rounded up to 75.2%).

With that mark, she ranks number 103 on the list of the students who took Medicine as first Choice.

The total admission quota for Medicine in OAU is 100, and that includes UTME and Direct Entry).

Clearly although Aror did well, her mark was NOT good enough to earn her admission on merit to read Medicine in Ife. Her mark of 75.2% is clearly below our cut-off mark (which was initially 78%, but we later reduced to 77.7%). Between her mark of 75.2% and 77.7%, by the way, there were 56 other candidates who scored higher than her but did not make the cut-off. For example, two people had 77.6%, two other people had 77.5%, four people had 77.4% etc.
Having presented the detailed facts about Aror's case, let me also help the many young Nigerians who may be accessing this site with more information on admission as I see a lot of misrepresentation, falsehood, and misunderstanding from the comments that various people had made on this case.

1. Admission into Nigerian Universities are considered on three grounds based on the nationally specified criteria (which I think ought to be reviewed now, by the way):
A. Merit =45% (This covers all candidates from the country - and it is automatic admission once you meet the cut-off mark)
B. Catchment = 35% (this refers to those in the states specified as catchment area for each University: For OAU, that is Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Osun and Ekiti)
C. Educationally disadvantaged states (ELDS)=20% = This refers to all the 19 Northern States, and Ebonyi, Rivers and Bayelsa.

So, someone from Delta such as Aror with 75.2% will not get admission into Medicine in OAU automatically as she is only considered on merit criterion and she does NOT meet the specified cut-off, but someone with the same mark from Kwara (which is in the North Central zone) may get automatic admission with the same mark based on the consideration of ELDS if 75.2% is the specified cut-off for ELDS for Medicine.

2. When a candidate chooses a highly competitive course like Medicine in a top-rated University like OAU, the competition is very intense. Believe it or not, many of the candidates that made our merit mark had an average of six A1s in school cert coupled with very high UTME mark (above 300). So, a candidate must carefully think over his choice of course and university. For example, if Aror had chosen ANY other course as her first choice for OAU, whe would have made the merit mark and gotten automatic admission, and she would have made the merit mark for Medicine on merit for most Nigerian universities too (but NOT OAU unfortunately).

3. Because of the high demand and competition for very limited spaces, the College of Health Sciences does not consider second choices as a general rule. OAU, for example, was only able to offer admission on UTME platform (Merit + Catchment + ELDS) to less than 3% of her applicants for Medicine, and less than 2% of her applicants for Nursing Science this year.

4. For cases like Aror where the candidadte has made a high mark but does not make the cut-off, what the candidate can sometimes do is to come to the University and try and see if he or she can be considered for other courses. A candidadte DOES NOT get considered automatically for a course she has not applied to in JAMB. A candidadte is ONLY automatically considered for the course he or she has applied for with respect to a particular university.

Unfortunately, Aror has left her case too late as all admission lists have been submitted for this year.
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Source:https://www.nairaland.com/3532584/girl-laments-over-inability /4
Mr Adesegun Fatusi, I challenge u to publish d admission list of this dept within 48 hours or I will take d school authority to court.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by ibitzbarlow(m): 10:40pm On Dec 22, 2016
Drdonzeez:
This man doesn't know maths..Its obvious from the modality that the girl had 79% .

The man is correct with his mathematics. You are the one that needs mentoring in mathematics. Pls Check your calculations again...

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Vokians(m): 10:41pm On Dec 22, 2016
Drdonzeez:
This man doesn't know maths..Its obvious from the modality that the girl had 79% .
You are correct, there is a miscalculation from his... This is how they deprive credible candidate of admission opportunity.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Impeller(m): 10:41pm On Dec 22, 2016
To hell with OAU. What crappy competition when no Nigerian University is ranked within the top500 in the world. Tribalism at the peak in the WEST even Globacom can't be were it supposed to be because of this. Quote me and die by fire!

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by solidman59(m): 10:42pm On Dec 22, 2016
Josephnice:
I don't just buy into this vague calculus theorem of the so called provost to denying this girl her admission. Lecturers are so smart in formulating excuses in cover up of their partiality. Whichever way u solved the equation, this girl deserves a place in the merit list
Please stop being sentimental, the lady just explained. Aror wasn't the only one denied admission by the school, and for the obvious reasons explained.

Simply because she came to nairaland.com to cry doesn't qualify her for admission.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Kunlexic(m): 10:42pm On Dec 22, 2016
Very touching!
This has arisen from Jamb and fg that stops conducting of post utme.

Obtain another Jamb and try again,but u shd be well informed.
Wish you the best.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by pakpan89(m): 10:43pm On Dec 22, 2016
My sister, take heart. That was how they treated Bill Gate. Today, he is the richest man in the world employing them. You are a star. The God that enriched your brain to perform will see you through.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by thinkative: 10:44pm On Dec 22, 2016
Jlow2:
sumone up north with 50 in jamb gets medicine, southerners wakeup.

not for medicine. most of the northerners are admitted into the social sciences.

even if he is admitted. how would he be able to scale first year and make the college of medicine. he would fail so badly that he wouldn't be allowed to crossover and study Hausa language

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by greenprince(m): 10:44pm On Dec 22, 2016
ebuclassic18:
if properly investigated most of them been admitted bought their way in,and she might still have higher marks than them

So true. Did my investigations for a brother at UNN and got a shocker. Human being with pass (E8) in physics got medsurg but my bro with 276 and 5 distinctions didn't even see human physiology that he later paid 10k to shop for. Soooooo annoying.

Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Josephnice: 10:45pm On Dec 22, 2016
kessler53:
true talk,because if na Buhari's daughter that have such a result will u give this excuse?

with that computed scores, it is indeed a waste on the girl's effort, time and money when not admitted. Why not give her other relative courses than sending her home unceremoniously. Are u seeing what's here, 320 in jamb!
kessler53:
true talk,because if na Buhari's daughter that have such a result will u give this excuse?

with that computed scores, it is indeed a waste on the girl's effort, time and money when not admitted. Why not give her other relative courses than sending her home unceremoniously. Are u seeing what's here, 320 in jamb!
kessler53:
true talk,because if na Buhari's daughter that have such a result will u give this excuse?

with that computed scores, it is indeed a waste on the girl's effort, time and money when not admitted. Why not give her other relative courses than sending her home unceremoniously. Are u seeing what's here, 320 in jamb!
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by calebify1(m): 10:45pm On Dec 22, 2016
Most of u are talking based on what dat man said. Am 100% certain that there are ppl on that list who didn't get anything close to merit and are on that list. It is time jamb is probed, why must i know somebody to get into school. It is all this i sabi lecturers dat deprive those who merit it their slot. Some ppl are saying she should go and read for another jamb like it that's easy. If jamb isn't that useless should they allow that particular candidate to waste this result. The painful thing is that most federal universities have shady admission processes.. What differentiates the lady with 320 and someone with 120 in jamb nothing, they both didn't get admitted. The education system is long dead.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by jeff1607(m): 10:46pm On Dec 22, 2016
blessedvisky:
MMM major!! Your own na 7 M's. Twale baba

shey soup don ready?

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Toniwirelex: 10:46pm On Dec 22, 2016
habtund:
Rubbish..... I was also denied admission last year despite having 62% in d post DE exam, distinction n 6 bs n 3 C's in my o level
but a frnd of mine wit upper credit, c parallel in her o level n 55% was admitted ....same course
Alhamdulillah I av bn offered admission in funaab to study statistics
I like it when I see fellow statisticians..... kudos
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Nobody: 10:46pm On Dec 22, 2016
scammer provost abi wetin e call himself again.
OYA let us calculate, see her real waec result from the attached photo

8+8+7+6+5+6+5+8+6 = 59 , since the subjects are 9 we will divide by 72

(59/72*100) = 81.9

(81.9 + 80)/ 2 = 80.95 = 81. Then someone will now coman tell me that this country have not finish.

and people saying sir I agree with u did u guys even look at the calculation, how come he repeated physics and he totalled 45 but he worked with 44. let us think.

okay for people that will want to be rigid and use thesame 8 waec combination OAU supposedly used, let us throw away one subject from Aru's result maybe painting and decoration(b3) oh no let us throw away computer studies(A1)

we have: 8+8+7+6+5+6+5+6 = 51
(51/64 * 100) = 79.6875 = 79.7

(79.7 + 80) / 2 = 79.85 = 79.9

please someone should explain how this girl is not qualified for the merit list.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Vokians(m): 10:47pm On Dec 22, 2016
Mr so called provost she beat the cut off mark for merit list. Do your calculations properly. I know you are not a mathemathecian but this is simple calculation.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by calebify1(m): 10:48pm On Dec 22, 2016
paulo220:
Mr Adesegun Fatusi, I challenge u to publish d admission list of this dept within 48 hours or I will take d school authority to court.
They can't coz it'll blow their cover.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Jidibia(m): 10:48pm On Dec 22, 2016
Josephnice:
I don't just buy into this vague calculus theorem of the so called provost to deny this girl her admission. Lecturers are so smart in formulating excuses in cover up of their partiality. Whichever way u solve the equation, this girl deserve a place in the merit list
GBAM

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