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Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Oildichotomy(m): 9:09am On Dec 23, 2016
kolagbemi:


From all you listed above, tell me 1 or 2 that's not true.

I know you won't answer the question but I hope you will.

We are too good in criticizing.

Solving a problem requires identifying the cause(s) of the problem.
Please we should be very much aware of the thin line separating identifying the cause and blaming the cause. Trust me the government is playing the latter everytime they come to the media.

Spillover of a reactionary government and the blame cycle continues for any problem.
We know this!!
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Reference(m): 9:10am On Dec 23, 2016
Whytelyon:

I see it as a welcome development, at least every company who's registered can get the price of dollar for normal bank rates. Not buying a dollar for almost 500 Naira, its a good one, if implemented correctly.


Shows you don't understand anything concerning this matter. You cannot regulate an item of high demand if you cannot ensure supply. The Federal Government is a minority player in the forex market and cannot dictate the direction of the market. The result of any attempted regulation is to drive the players further underground and exchange rates up. In a supply, demand market, the only way to merge the rates is to float the naira. There is a lot of fx in Nigeria, people are just not selling because of uncertainty. The government is heading deeper into the wilderness, most folks are guarding their provisions. Government has no business in business. In 2016 it cannot dictate the exchange rates.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by cosade(m): 9:18am On Dec 23, 2016
Whytelyon:

I see it as a welcome development, at least every company who's registered can get the price of dollar for normal bank rates. Not buying a dollar for almost 500 Naira, its a good one, if implemented correctly.



See what will happen

NwaEzefuNaMba:


Of cause not! What were you thinking? It will lead to dollar scarcity hence causing hike in exchange rate.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by kolagbemi(m): 9:20am On Dec 23, 2016
Oildichotomy:
Please we should be very much aware of the thin line separating identifying the cause and blaming the cause. Trust me the government is playing the latter everytime they come to the media.

Spillover of a reactionary government and the blame cycle continues for any problem.
We know this!!

Depending with the side you are looking at it. How do you identify causes of a problem and not sound blaming?

So here is an example. Your car broke down and you got to office late. Tell me what you will say when they ask why you came late?

Or another one, your parent blame your wife for the economic down turn in your house, then she reply them with "your son marrying. Second wife is the cause". Did she just blamed you or identify the cause of the problem.

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Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by cosade(m): 9:20am On Dec 23, 2016
takenadoh:
if you have Bureau de change littered everywhere like Fast-food joints or filling stations, there will be no need to patronize black market or if the banks didn't have all these restrictions and one could just walk in and change to any currency needed like its done in advanced countries, the Black market will die a natural death.


but when you see pple hiding and exchanging dollars like it is contraband ,what do u expect?





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The issue is not with the number of BDC operators but the lean sources of forex inflow into the country.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Oildichotomy(m): 9:20am On Dec 23, 2016
smada13:



Had it been you have a full understanding of the Nigerian export n import business environment, you won't have written this cuz Kemi was actually right. The first problem Nigeria faced came from the black market, forcing the exchange rate of dollars indiscriminately through the creation of artificial scarcity so as to make exorbitant gains, and some commercial banks toed that line, offering to sell dollar to bureau de change operators instead of business people cuz of the gains they want to make.

And since that month of September 2014, the economy hasn't recovered.... All other problems compounded the debacle.

Think through before you criticize. Thanks
Mr Thinker, You just succeeded in scratching the surface of my post just to defend Kemi and you also stretched your analysis period to September 2014 to absolve her of any blame.

We know how these incompetence defence things work is blame circles.

Continue!!
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by cosade(m): 9:23am On Dec 23, 2016
Whytelyon:



Bank rate = $1 -> #314 naira

Black market $1 -> #496 naira.
Which you prefer? At least first thing this idiotic government is doing correctly.


This is not about preference but reality.

Omooba77:
How will they get supply of dollar to fund this...Those ruling needs God's touch, they seems not to know what they are doing..
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Oildichotomy(m): 9:30am On Dec 23, 2016
Lakeside2134:


Don't all this things add up to it and they are not excuses but facts,even though buhari and his economic team got it wrong in so many aspects and policies but you cannot deny the facts you listed .
Read what you wrote again and think it through slowly please.
You still don't get my post do you?

Read this caveat slowly and let-go trying to defend the government
The excuse and blame list from Buhari and his noise makers is growing in leaps and bounds except themselves of course,

I can't absolve them of any blame, they are heavily culpable in this regard
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by SweetJoystick(m): 9:31am On Dec 23, 2016
Clone2020:
If you are in the US or have relatives in the US trying to send money to naija, I will exchange the funds at 410/$, simply deposit into my US bank account and receive instant funding into your Nigerian account. Don't bother with western Union and co, they exchange at 375/$ with fees and the exchange rate drops to around 345/$.

See my contact below.

Can you fund my payoneer account? If yes at what exchange rate?
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by donasere(m): 9:37am On Dec 23, 2016
So now they will abolish parallel market and add to the already saturated unemployed population....

Or better still aboki go begin sell dollar at #1000 to $1 since it's illegal...

Why can't these people have sense please


How does this help recession

Am lost!
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by bart10: 9:43am On Dec 23, 2016
Hope these guys understand the implications of this decision on the economy? In the absence of positive balance of trade, dwindling oil revenue, inflation, unemployment and zero productivity, the Naira will continue to chase the dollar and other currencies to no avail and the value will keep declining. This government need to face reality and not continue to use force.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Oildichotomy(m): 9:45am On Dec 23, 2016
kolagbemi:


Depending with the side you are looking at it. How do you identify causes of a problem and not sound blaming?

So here is an example. Your car broke down and you got to office late. Tell me what you will say when they ask why you came late?

Or another one, your parent blame your wife for the economic down turn in your house, then she reply them with "your son marrying. Second wife is the cause". Did she just blamed you or identify the cause of the problem.
Even your illustrations are self-indicting already! You didn't give the answer to your first example - and the response you coined for the wife, gave you off about how neck-deep you are in the excuses-blame web. I won't be surprised if you are typical Nigerian civil servant.

I cannot employ or recommend somebody like you for the life of me. You and the Buhari of this world deserve his government !

Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Lakeside2134: 9:46am On Dec 23, 2016
Oildichotomy:
You still don't get my post do you?

Read this caveat slowly and let-go trying to defend the government


I can't absolve them of any blame, they are heavily culpable in this regard

From my post which i believe you read,I'm not in support of that illiterate and his team(bunch of clowns)who refuse to find a way to move foward but prefer to play the blame game everytime, but the so called "excuses" you listed if analysed closely are actual facts not excuses.If you list some of the foolish excuses which this government has actually made then i won't question you because your post would make perfect sense.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by plaetton: 9:49am On Dec 23, 2016
What a bunch of clowns this government is.

For those of you who are too young to know or remember, the black market in foreign exchange EMERGED DURING THE FIRST BUHARI government of 1983, when the buffoon , in his whimsical fashion, imposed restrictions in foreign exchange IMPORT and export.

Ever since, and IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, the Naira went into a nosedive from which it has never, and will never recover.

Ever since Buhari's first failed MISSIONARY ( more like missionless ) journey into the political and economic life of Nigeria, Nigeria and her currency have been falling down the abyss.

Here the clowns are again trying to legislate against the natural Market forces of Supply and Demand. shocked

The more you restrict the free flow and exchange of something, the more scarce it becomes.
The more scarce it becomes, the higher the value and the natural tendency to emerge a black market.
Duuhh!! undecided

The black market is not something you create and uncreate by whims.
It emerges and evolves an independent and impervious will of it's own when the natural forces, the factors of demand and supply are interrupted or ruptured.

What school of Clown economics do these people subscribe to ?

Anyone who thinks that they can whimsically eliminate the foreign exchange black market in Nigeria without satisfying the natural demand is a deluded fool.

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Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by no1madman(m): 9:53am On Dec 23, 2016
Whytelyon:



Oga, its basically the same thing. They run the same practice, abi aboki no get BDC way day registered? They only come out to seek customers when they short of customers, I have several of them as friends mind you.

Not d same. .B.M no dey pay tax. .simple
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by bettercreature(m): 10:20am On Dec 23, 2016
TeamSimple:
I hope it affects the Naira positively.
It's impossible! there is black market in USA if you dont know,these people are clueless its simply impossible to scrap blackmarket they can only regulate it
No country is able to scrap black market they are everywhere
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Clone2020(m): 10:35am On Dec 23, 2016
SweetJoystick:


Can you fund my payoneer account? If yes at what exchange rate?

Sorry I don't provide that service.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by smada13(m): 10:40am On Dec 23, 2016
Omooba77:



I guess you are just defending inept government;since I was born black market has always exist and the exchange difference has NEVER been as high as this. It shows something is wrong somewhere.


I don't have to defend any government as I'm not part of them, my job have to do with providing financial services for business people especially on the island (lagos), businesses started taking a downward slope since the month I mentioned and the last government compounded it together with the pipeline bombings. I still maintain my position that the bureau de change guys are the problem of our economy, knowing those that run that section, it's only a northerner that can break that change, which is why I'm thumbing up the decision of this government.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by smada13(m): 10:46am On Dec 23, 2016
greenermodels:
bureau de change is the parallel or black market. Nigeria adopted a two tier exchange rate after buhari military regime was kicked out. during his regime, possession of foreign currency carries heavy penalty including death and the result was serious dollar scarcity. a two tier exchange rate means that there must exist a parallel market in order for the exchange rate to be determined by market forces.

But the operators are the ones determining the price now. The understanding of OLIGOPOLY market will suffice. They started with creating artificial scarcity to push up the exchange rate of the dollar to the Naira...... The banks seeing this occasionally push their dollar to them to make more profit. That was the beginning of the decline of this economy
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Omooba77: 10:47am On Dec 23, 2016
smada13:



I don't have to defend any government as I'm not part of them, my job have to do with providing financial services for business people especially on the island (lagos), businesses started taking a downward slope since the month I mentioned and the last government compounded it together with the pipeline bombings. I still maintain my position that the bureau de change guys are the problem of our economy, knowing those that run that section, it's only a northerner that can break that change, which is why I'm thumbing up the decision of this government.

You cant reason without mentioning the last regime. In May it will be 2 years. Ti eniyan ba fi odun merin pile were; odun melo lo mafi jo. This government does not know what it is doing period. Please detach yourself from the past,please grow up and take responsibility.
In the last regime,the difference has never been more than #10.
Please go and dust your economics;government dont regulate economy and still want law of free flow to apply.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by takenadoh: 10:51am On Dec 23, 2016
Whytelyon:



Oga, its basically the same thing. They run the same practice, abi aboki no get BDC way day registered? They only come out to seek customers when they short of customers, I have several of them as friends mind you.

my brother all the countries i've lived in a d visited Nigeria is the only place you see this sort of exchange system.
Normally u can walk into a regular bank and change ur currency or the bureau the change in town, it must not be i only the airports.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by takenadoh: 10:54am On Dec 23, 2016
cosade:


The issue is not with the number of BDC operators but the lean sources of forex inflow into the country.

the number of Bereau de change is a problem,
this crisis didn't start today how can you regulate that guy at the street corner that isn't registered?

The CBN too is lying to themselves, wester Union is transferring for 375 -$ , Black market 490-$ , official rate is 300 smth
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by greenermodels: 10:57am On Dec 23, 2016
smada13:


But the operators are the ones determining the price now. The understanding of OLIGOPOLY market will suffice. They started with creating artificial scarcity to push up the exchange rate of the dollar to the Naira...... The banks seeing this occasionally push their dollar to them to make more profit. That was the beginning of the decline of this economy
the price is determined by demand and supply. none of the operators can single handedly influence or fix the price, there are countless bureau de change offices nationwide competing against each other.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by greenermodels: 11:01am On Dec 23, 2016
takenadoh:


the number of Bereau de change is a problem,
this crisis didn't start today how can you regulate that guy at the street corner that isn't registered?

The CBN too is lying to themselves, wester Union is transferring for 375 -$ , Black market 490-$ , official rate is 300 smth
ha ha, a nation with five different exchange rates.maybe i should start saving my money in the form of bags of food stuffs, commercial vehicles etc.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by cosade(m): 11:03am On Dec 23, 2016
takenadoh:


the number of Bereau de change is a problem,
this crisis didn't start today how can you regulate that guy at the street corner that isn't registered?

The CBN too is lying to themselves, wester Union is transferring for 375 -$ , Black market 490-$ , official rate is 300 smth

Elementary economics taught us that where effective demand is more than effective supply there would be increase in price. If we have millions of BDC operators and no willing person to sell forex to them, then their existence is useless.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by takenadoh: 11:06am On Dec 23, 2016
cosade:


Elementary economics taught us that where effective demand is more than effective supply there would be increase in price. If we have millions of BDC operators and no willing person to sell forex to them, then their existence is useless.

My brother you missing the point, Government can regulate registered entities better than random people on the street, rather than sending DSS to catch people here and there, there is scarcity in foreingn exchange and the number 1 provider is he Government, meaning government can control things through its policies and registered organizations.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by Jesusloveyou: 11:25am On Dec 23, 2016
Love Machine:
What do Nigerians stand to gain in all these?
see end time question,
May God help iPods,
the way they ask useless question

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Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by cosade(m): 11:45am On Dec 23, 2016
takenadoh:


My brother you missing the point, Government can regulate registered entities better than random people on the street, rather than sending DSS to catch people here and there, there is scarcity in foreingn exchange and the number 1 provider is he Government, meaning government can control things through its policies and registered organizations.


Yes, government is the main provider of forex but a lot is also coming from the private sector and individuals. For example, Nigerians in diaspora brought in a whopping sum of $21 Billons to the Nigerian economy in 2014.

World Bank Data Shows Nigerians Sent Home $21 bn
https://www.naij.com/423001-world-bank-data-shows-amazing-sum-nigerians-sent-home-in-2014.html

When the forex price is considered low, this category of people will simply refuse to remit money home, thus reducing supplies which in turn would lead to increase in price.

Since the price of crude oil crashed coupled with the distruptions in the Niger Delta, the FGN's forex supplies has reduced drastically. Before this crash, the difference between the BDC price and black market was just about N10 as against over N100 that we have now due to the acute shortage.

It's all about demand and supply.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by MrGerald(m): 1:18pm On Dec 23, 2016
Parallel mkts has been there and been reasonably trailing other foreign currencies until this gov come onboard, whatever policy that you brought that caused this untold hardship to average citizens should be reversed ASAP.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by takenadoh: 2:22pm On Dec 23, 2016
cosade:


Yes, government is the main provider of forex but a lot is also coming from the private sector and individuals. For example, Nigerians in diaspora brought in a whopping sum of $21 Billons to the Nigerian economy in 2014.

World Bank Data Shows Nigerians Sent Home $21 bn
https://www.naij.com/423001-world-bank-data-shows-amazing-sum-nigerians-sent-home-in-2014.html

When the forex price is considered low, this category of people will simply refuse to remit money home, thus reducing supplies which in turn would lead to increase in price.

Since the price of crude oil crashed coupled with the distruptions in the Niger Delta, the FGN's forex supplies has reduced drastically. Before this crash, the difference between the BDC price and black market was just about N10 as against over N100 that we have now due to the acute shortage.

It's all about demand and supply.
Re: Bureau De Change Operators React To Elimination Of Parallel Market by stagger: 3:06pm On Dec 23, 2016
Crazy govt!

You can NEVER eliminate a black market for a commodity in high demand. Be it illicit narcotics, performance enhancing drugs in sports, currencies, sex, pharmaceuticals, weapons, etc. There is always a black market somewhere for a product on the globe and it can never be eliminated. It is that simple.

Even for the Naira, there is a black market. You go to the bank asking for change, it is not available. You go to the streets at selected areas and you can get change for high denomination notes, for which you must surrender some of the money as the service charge. Is that not a black market in operation?

The sooner we wizen up to the fact that this govt has ZERO SOLUTIONS to Nigeria's problems, the better.

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