Hassan080196:



I've been meeting liars in my life, Christians are greatest liars. You quote what is not in the Qur'an to console yourself. I'll write the verses out for you now.

إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يَخْفَىٰ عَلَيْهِ شَىْءٌ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ وَلَا فِى ٱلسَّمَآء
From Allah, verily nothing is hidden on earth or in the heavens.Q3:5. On this interpretation, you're completely wrong.

The second verse goes thus:
هُوَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ مِنْهُ ءَايَٰتٌ مُّحْكَمَٰتٌ هُنَّ أُمُّ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ وَأُخَرُ مُتَشَٰبِهَٰتٌ ۖ فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ فِى قُلُوبِهِمْ زَيْغٌ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ مَا تَشَٰبَهَ مِنْهُ ٱبْتِغَآءَ ٱلْفِتْنَةِ وَٱبْتِغَآءَ تَأْوِيلِهِۦ ۗ وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُۥٓ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُ ۗ وَٱلرَّٰسِخُونَ فِى ٱلْعِلْمِ يَقُولُونَ ءَامَنَّا بِهِۦ كُلٌّ مِّنْ عِندِ رَبِّنَا ۗ وَمَا يَذَّكَّرُ إِلَّآ أُو۟لُوا۟ ٱلْأَلْبَٰبِ

Q3:7. He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.


Read this verse to the end and never stop at the middle. Clear enough for the men of understanding.

Don't try to justify your so called holy book full of thousands of errors.

Renaissance2017:

You have not defended anything here. Can a Muslim ask serious questions for certain clarifications without being persecuted? No.

Hassan080196:


Don't try to justify your so called holy book that is full of thousands of errors

How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?

Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?

Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?

Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)
How many were the children of Zattu?

Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:
Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)
How many were the children of Azgad?

One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)
How many were the children of Adin?

Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)

Hassan080196:


Don't try to justify your so called holy book that is full of thousands of errors

How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?

Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?

Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?

Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)
How many were the children of Zattu?

Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:
Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)
How many were the children of Azgad?

One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)
How many were the children of Adin?

Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)

Hassan080196:


Give me instances.

CandyDiamond:

This one is busy reading Bible and twisting it to fit his taqiyya and consoling himself and feeling good.
[/b]Religion is truly the Opium of the masses[b].

CandyDiamond:

This one is busy reading Bible and twisting it to fit his taqiyya and consoling himself and feeling good.
[/b]Religion is truly the Opium of the masses[b].

Renaissance2017:

How many instances do you want me to give you more than the ones I have quoted in my previous write ups? Don't be a bigot okay. Open your heart to the truth. Don't read with sentiments and bigoted lens.

Hassan080196:


Fight that now. Take your bible and read it yourself.
if I am lying , then prove me wrong .

CandyDiamond:

Koran have more errors than the Bible because Koran is just a copy copy work that have no base.

DIKEnaWAR:
People might not like this prediction, but the Shiite Muslims are going to gradually displace the Sunni gradually, in Nigeria.

Hassan080196:


Don't just say anything without you having prove for it.

Renaissance2017:

Lies. In islam, when a Muslim begins to ask serious questions, he can be highly suspected by his imam of having apostatized.
After reading a book, a Muslim asked his imam certain questions about their religion. The imam became very hostile and started persecuting him, suspecting that the young man must have come in contact with some dangerous Christians. The imam is not being unfair, he is only following the quran.
The quran says there should be no questioning by reader or any 'hidden meanings'(Sura 3:5). In islam, it is the policy of "Ta abbudi"- that the quran must "be accepted without criticism".
In sura 3:7 Allah says the Quran is clear enough for anyone to understand, but quickly add
" BUT THOSE IN WHOSE HEARTS PERVERSITY FOLLOW THE PART THEREFORE THAT IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR, SEEKING DISCORD, AND SEARCHING FOR ITS INTERPRETATION, BUT NO ONE KNOWS ITS TRUE MEANING EXCEPT ALLAH"
A Muslim who begins to ask probing questions about the Quran is seen as having perversity in the heart and seeking discord.
In the hadith, Mohammed said, "Allah has hated you for asking too many questions."

rafhell:
Do not trust Muslims....any Muslim.

delishpot:


They know what they are looking for and they know how to get it. All Na politics to get Christians on their side to advocate for freedom for their OGA.

DIKEnaWAR:





You are not from the core north and they don't consider you a "true " Muslim. They from the core north know the politics involved and marry the religion with politics and expansionism, just like the Arabs.

Hassan080196:



Seriously you never quoted anything. You're just playing on words.

I think I've explained what you wrote up there for you.

Uzo1975:
Are they hypocrites because they wished Christians a happy Christmas celebration? Isn't that a virtuous act, showing they are inclined to peace. Hypocrites are those who hate and kill because of religion, claiming to be righteous, while seeing others are sinners. Meanwhile they are more sinful because the acts of hating and killing are in themselves sinful. If you are one of them, you better change.

CandyDiamond:

[/b]Shia are Muslims[b], practice your sunni doctrine and allow others to do their own.Is there any place in Koran that said that Mohammad is last prophet.
Ahmmadiyya Muslim also believe that Mohammed is not a seal of prophet does that make them not to be a Muslim.
Most everybody believe in your sunni doctrine

You are saying that is only Muhammad that was sent to entire world,which prophets existed before Mohammed.... Jewish prophets, copy copy people.

CandyDiamond:

Koran was a plagiarized copy of Bible,because of bitter war between excommunicated Catholic priest and roman empire pope, the priest guided Muhammad in copying most verses of Bible and twisting it.The priest just did that in other to get back at pope.The priest died early and Muhammad was confused and stated writing anything he feel is OK,that is why today Muslim world is soaked in confusion and bitter war.[/b]He was the christian priest that was recorded in the book of haddit that prophecy to Muhammad that he will be a prophet[b].

Renaissance2017:

Argh!!! Is it until I write in Arabic for you before you will understand? You have already been brainwashed and blinded why your imams' teaching so there is no truth and fact I will present to you that will change your mind. Even if I give you the detailed history of the origin of the Quran you will not still believe.
Even if I give you facts on how the Quran had been tampered and many verses changed and expunged in order to have a single and unified Quran for Islamic political uniformity, you will still ignore it.
Even if I prove to you that the Quran was never sent from heaven or your so called Allah to prophet Mohammed you will still form deaf ears.
TheQuran was never meant to be documented that's why the simple and true meaning of the Quran is "recitation".
But moves were made to document the Quran after the death of prophet Mohammed and other followers who were good at the recitation of the Quran, the Islamic community rallied round to document the Quran so that it would not be lost completely.
Any further argument from you I will give you the name(s) of those who documented the Quran after the death of Mohammed.

CandyDiamond:

Koran was a plagiarized copy of Bible,because of bitter war between excommunicated Catholic priest and roman empire pope, the priest guided Muhammad in copying most verses of Bible and twisting it.The priest just did that in other to get back at pope.The priest died early and Muhammad was confused and stated writing anything he feel is OK,that is why today Muslim world is soaked in confusion and bitter war.[/b]He was the christian priest that was recorded in the book of haddit that prophecy to Muhammad that he will be a prophet[b].

MicroBox:

Keep busy watching youtube video and books wrote by conspiracy theorist..
There are much more of those complicated stories about Christianity than Islam written by same conspiracy theorist.
It's very illogical to say God himself came down to earth in human form. Please when the so called tomb of jesus was open last month what did you see there? It's better to open your mind if you are really keen about paradise personally and start your own research about through path. You are born a christian, you are made to practice Christianity, it's Christianity you know all your life so how would you not want to defend what you believe?
My dear don't be lazy and get books to read with no sentiments attached.

Hassan080196:



You don't have any point. Just writing what the lies your pastors told you in church. Bring proves and not just write what doesn't make sense. Prophet went catholic priest and roman empire to write down Qur'an and still in the same Qur’an that these people you mentioned will go to hell fire. Seriously ironical. You need use your thinking cap and not relent on heresay as the case of your bible. Luke never in his life saw Jesus and have a gospel in your so called holy book. Funny enough that the guy said all what he wrote was based on heresay (Luke 1-3).

maxzzo1:

Dis one na follow follow....

Pity am , its not everything he knows. hes just being ignorant of certain things about his religion.
I am sure he was very surprised when i helped him dissect and understand his religion, to him he may feel insulted (Hes from kano), but really i dont care, as i dont have to pay jizya now This is not saudi arabia and neither is it secular.

Not all muslims know where they belong. Some of them dont even know whats sunni or Shia or even Roghiya Muslims, some dont even know the Morkaz (Dont know if i spelt that correctly) Their own is I am a Muslim, Isa Masjid (Jesus) is coming to fight the Anti christ ( Al Dajaal) , he is the Al Mashih .... now great, i doubt if any of them here even understands any thing i wrote here... yet... they are Muslims

Dont get it twisted. I am a Christian, incase you thinking other wise....

Hassan080196:


One of the most common myths about the Qur’an, is that Usman (r.a.), the third Caliph of Islam authenticated and compiled one Qur’an, from a large set of mutually contradicting copies. The Qur’an, revered as the Word of Allah (swt) by Muslims the world over, is the same Qur’an as the one revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). It was authenticated and written under his personal supervision. We will examine the roots of the myth which says that Usman (r.a.) had the Qur’an authenticated.

1. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself supervised and authenticated the written texts of the Qur’an

Whenever the Prophet received a revelation, he would first memorize it himself and later declare the revelation and instruct his Companions (R.A. – Radhi Allahu Taala Anhu) – May Allah be pleased with him who would also memorize it. The Prophet would immediately ask the scribes to write down the revelation he had received, and he would reconfirm and recheck it himself. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was an Ummi who could not read and write. Therefore, after receiving each revelation, he would repeat it to his Companions. They would write down the revelation, and he would recheck by asking them to read what they had written. If there was any mistake, the Prophet would immediately point it out and have it corrected and rechecked. Similarly he would even recheck and authenticate the portions of the Qur’an memorized by the Companions. In this way, the complete Qur’an was written down under the personal supervision of the prophet (pbuh).

2. Order and sequence of Qur’an divinely inspired

The complete Qur’an was revealed over a period of 22½ years portion by portion, as and when it was required. The Qur’an was not compiled by the Prophet in the chronological order of revelation. The order and sequence of the Qur’an too was Divinely inspired and was instructed to the Prophet by Allah (swt) through archangel Jibraeel. Whenever a revelation was conveyed to his companions, the Prophet would also mention in which surah (chapter) and after which ayat (verse) this new revelation should fit.

Every Ramadhaan all the portions of the Qur’an that had been revealed, including the order of the verses, were revised and reconfirmed by the Prophet with archangel Jibraeel. During the last Ramadhaan, before the demise of the Prophet, the Qur’an was rechecked and reconfirmed twice.

It is therefore clearly evident that the Qur’an was compiled and authenticated by the Prophet himself during his lifetime, both in the written form as well as in the memory of several of his Companions.

3. Qur’an copied on one common material

The complete Qur’an, along with the correct sequence of the verses, was present during the time of the Prophet (pbuh). The verses however, were written on separate pieces, scrapes of leather, thin flat stones, leaflets, palm branches, shoulder blades, etc. After the demise of the prophet, Abu Bakr (r.a.), the first caliph of Islam ordered that the Qur’an be copied from the various different materials on to a common material and place, which was in the shape of sheets. These were tied with strings so that nothing of the compilation was lost.

4. Usman (r.a.) made copies of the Qur’an from the original manuscript

Many Companions of the Prophet used to write down the revelation of the Qur’an on their own whenever they heard it from the lips of the Prophet. However what they wrote was not personally verified by the Prophet and thus could contain mistakes. All the verses revealed to the Prophet may not have been heard personally by all the Companions. There were high possibilities of different portions of the Qur’an being missed by different Companions. This gave rise to disputes among Muslims regarding the different contents of the Qur’an during the period of the third Caliph Usman (r.a.).

Usman (r.a.) borrowed the original manuscript of the Qur’an, which was authorized by the beloved Prophet (pbuh), from Hafsha (may Allah be pleased with her), the Prophet’s wife. Usman (r.a.) ordered four Companions who were among the scribes who wrote the Qur’an when the Prophet dictated it, led by Zaid bin Thabit (r.a.) to rewrite the script in several perfect copies. These were sent by Usman (r.a.) to the main centres of Muslims.

There were other personal collections of the portions of the Qur’an that people had with them. These might have been incomplete and with mistakes. Usman (r.a.) only appealed to the people to destroy all these copies which did not match the original manuscript of the Qur’an in order to preserve the original text of the Qur’an. Two such copies of the copied text of the original Qur’an authenticated by the Prophet are present to this day, one at the museum in Tashkent in erstwhile Soviet Union and the other at the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, Turkey.

Saying what you have no knowledge of Islam bad for you.

Hassan080196:



You don't have any point. Just writing what the lies your pastors told you in church. Bring proves and not just write what doesn't make sense. Prophet went catholic priest and roman empire to write down Qur'an and still in the same Qur’an that these people you mentioned will go to hell fire. Seriously ironical. You need use your thinking cap and not relent on heresay as the case of your bible. Luke never in his life saw Jesus and have a gospel in your so called holy book. Funny enough that the guy said all what he wrote was based on heresay (Luke 1-3).

Nearly three quaters of whats in the Holy bible was copied into the Quran, For example the 10 commandments , with the exception of few additions, the wife be obedient to your husband thing... etc all was the same in the first books, yes Luke may have not seen Jesus but Jesus inspired the synoptic gospels which is the new testanment laws in which we follow today. Some old testament laws we have renounced - now let me clearify your doubts about certain things. Moses Law is the Law islam Follows - at least one of them. And Moses was mentioned in the bible so you see whats in the bible is basically whats copied into the Quran.

Now We have names like Our Lady of Fatima, Mariam, Maria etc in Catholic Church... sounding the same like the Islamic names, And as the religion has it, Catholic church was the first place of worship or rather would i say the overall headquater , first head of christendom, as we have it in Rome. Basically everything about Christianity, after it moved from Antioch in Syria , Moved to Rome. So you see the poster only doesnt know how to defend himself / herself ...but its different here.

Islam is one of the few newer religions. we have Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism , Judaism, Taoism, magic back then was one of them. islam just came and wants to be boss, inflicting fear into the hearts of everyone, without fear islam would be no where by now. it would have died out long ago. Only some Fools here say Mithraism and Christianity is the same , because of Alexander the great and Rome Whatever, Nairaland Muslims and Atheists make me laugh seriously .

Tired of typing. need to get some work fixed now. just wanted you to see somethings and understand how islam came, dont let Surah 5:51 ruin you. Islam isnt going to be the only religion on earth. It would live, but Conquering the World... I am in Serious doubts. Hitler tried to make the world speak german you speak your mother tounge, so it didnt work, like wise islam ... wont work. Sorry to be this blunt.

Whytelyon:



Nearly three quaters of whats in the Holy bible was copied into the Quran, For example the 10 commandments , with the exception of few additions, the wife be obedient to your husband thing... etc all was the same in the first books, yes Luke may have not seen Jesus but Jesus inspired the synoptic gospels which is the new testanment laws in which we follow today. Some old testament laws we have renounced - now let me clearify your doubts about certain things. Moses Law is the Law islam Follows - at least one of them. And Moses was mentioned in the bible so you see whats in the bible is basically whats copied into the Quran.

Now We have names like Our Lady of Fatima, Mariam, Maria etc in Catholic Church... sounding the same like the Islamic names, And as the religion has it, Catholic church was the first place of worship or rather would i say the overall headquater , first head of christendom, as we have it in Rome. Basically everything about Christianity, after it moved from Antioch in Syria , Moved to Rome. So you see the poster only doesnt know how to defend himself / herself ...but its different here.

Islam is one of the few newer religions. we have Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism , Judaism, Taoism, magic back then was one of them. islam just came and wants to be boss, inflicting fear into the hearts of everyone, without fear islam would be no where by now. it would have died out long ago. Only some Fools here say Mithraism and Christianity is the same , because of Alexander the great and Rome Whatever, Nairaland Muslims and Atheists make me laugh seriously .

Tired of typing. need to get some work fixed now. just wanted you to see somethings and understand how islam came, dont let Surah 5:51 ruin you. Islam isnt going to be the only religion on earth. It would live, but Conquering the World... I am in Serious doubts. Hitler tried to make the world speak german you speak your mother tounge, so it didnt work, like wise islam ... wont work. Sorry to be this blunt.

kokosin:
merry christmas

Whytelyon:



Nearly three quaters of whats in the Holy bible was copied into the Quran, For example the 10 commandments , with the exception of few additions, the wife be obedient to your husband thing... etc all was the same in the first books, yes Luke may have not seen Jesus but Jesus inspired the synoptic gospels which is the new testanment laws in which we follow today. Some old testament laws we have renounced - now let me clearify your doubts about certain things. Moses Law is the Law islam Follows - at least one of them. And Moses was mentioned in the bible so you see whats in the bible is basically whats copied into the Quran.

Now We have names like Our Lady of Fatima, Mariam, Maria etc in Catholic Church... sounding the same like the Islamic names, And as the religion has it, Catholic church was the first place of worship or rather would i say the overall headquater , first head of christendom, as we have it in Rome. Basically everything about Christianity, after it moved from Antioch in Syria , Moved to Rome. So you see the poster only doesnt know how to defend himself / herself ...but its different here.

Islam is one of the few newer religions. we have Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism , Judaism, Taoism, magic back then was one of them. islam just came and wants to be boss, inflicting fear into the hearts of everyone, without fear islam would be no where by now. it would have died out long ago. Only some Fools here say Mithraism and Christianity is the same , because of Alexander the great and Rome Whatever, Nairaland Muslims and Atheists make me laugh seriously .

Tired of typing. need to get some work fixed now. just wanted you to see somethings and understand how islam came, dont let Surah 5:51 ruin you. Islam isnt going to be the only religion on earth. It would live, but Conquering the World... I am in Serious doubts. Hitler tried to make the world speak german you speak your mother tounge, so it didnt work, like wise islam ... wont work. Sorry to be this blunt.