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KingOvoramwen1:
YOU ARE NOT BENIN!!

IF YOU WERE U WOULD KNOW BORNSTUNNER1 IS RIGHT!!

DO NOT TALK WAT U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!

gregyboy:
[s]since u want me to school on this i will nw eweka came as a result of the young dump prince mentined is fist word which was owoimika and later corrupted as eweka again
ewe:in benin means rest
ka:mean to dry
so i dont see any meaningfull meaning u are reading to this two word or can you as a benin man explain the word ozulua or ovaramwen no i bet u cnt bcus this are names only our ancestor knows now we only read meaning to the names to ascribe the person not the words or the original meaning and for the record am a true son of the soil and bet u dont know benin history more than i d[/s]

gregyboy:
am a true son of the soil

KingOvoramwen1:
My guy you are not from any soil go and find where you came from!!

KingOvoramwen1:
HAHAHAHAHA JESUS!! WTF

BornStunner1:




DONT MIND DAT ONE WHO DOESNT EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF HIS SURNAME!!

HE IS OBVIOUSLY LOST!!

KingOvoramwen1

BornStunner1:
YOU ARE REFFERING TO IGBANKE PEOPLE....... IKA IS BEEN WIPED OUT AS MORE IGBANKE PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS HAVE PICKED UP BINI LINGUA FRANCA..... SOME OF THEM ARE ALSO BILINGUAL WHICH IS EXPECTED!!!

Cire80:
There is a reason I'm not taking you serious. Seems you're not familiar with Ika area of Delta and Edo States. Igbanke people are not the only Ika speakers in Edo State there are many others. And these people are originally Bini speaking or bilingual but some of these places are losing their Bini language instead of the other way round like you made it seem. Even the Bini in Ika areas of Delta State are getting Igbonized day by day.

blues20:
This thread is full of information and misinformation at the same time. However, kudos to you guys for keeping it sane and environmentally friendly.

BornStunner1:
YOU OBVIOSLY KNOW NOTHING..... TYPE IGBANKE OR IKA MARGINALISED ON GOOGLE

READ UP BOY!http://gloriaadagbon..com/2011/04/igbanke-forgotten-minority-in-edo-state.html

Cire80:
your comments make me laugh. All your explanations doesn't indicate any form of kinship. If you are not an Anioma, don't come here and start telling us about Anioma oneness which you would never understand except you feel it. I'm from Anioma and I know my people well, especially those of still in Delta and Edo. You can't tell me about people I've been with all my life even my life outside the Shores of Nigeria, I still feel close to home because I associate with my people.

MrPresident1:
Long live the king!

RedboneSmith:
Ah, you live outside Nigeria. It makes sense now. Oshimili is my second home. You will never know them more than i do. In fact, i am driving to Okwe this evening to hang out with my goons. And i am telling you as someone who eats from the same plate with the indigenes that they connect more with Ogbaru than they connect with Ika. They understand Ogbaru dialect far, far more easily than they understand Ika, and they understand that they share a deeper level of brotherhood with Ogbaru than they share with Ika. The riverine areas of Oshimili belong to the same geo-cultural entity with Ogbaru - they are all called Olu people. Ika is not Olu.

Before Dennis Osadebay in the 1950s or so, there was nothing like Anioma. Anioma is nothing but a political coalition of "Igboid" ethnic groups who found themselves in the Midwestern Region. You people in this age have turned it not what it was never intended for.

Cire80:
Who's this one? Do you know the distance between Abudu and Ogan, Owa, Iru and other Ika speaking parts of Edo? In my first comment, I made it clear that some of these communities are bilingual and some speak Ika as a second language. I've been to many of these Ika speaking communities in Edo. I've never been to Abudu but I have friends from there that speak Ika and they said they speak Ika in their place.

gerg:
[s]There was nothing like Igbo few decades or century ago but the whole South East have a deep sense of brotherhood even with some little issues they have but Ika, Enuani and Ukwani have always been known and classified as one people. different people have always have terms they identify Anioma area collectively from the olden days[/s].

gregyboy:
funny how would your theory not be wrong when even the benins ruled over ondo state that your calling thier ancestor so funny how people formulate thoery about how the great benin empire originated 1. the yoruba version of creation of benin now the igbos soon the hausa very funny even this tribes formulating this hypothesis dont even know hw they originated and now they formulating other peoples own

Pre-Imperial Obas of Benin (1180-1440)
Eweka I (1180–1246)
Uwuakhuahen (1246–1250)
Henmihen (1250–1260)
Ewedo (1260–1274)
Oguola (1274–1287)
Edoni (1287–1292)
Udagbedo (1292–1329)
Ohen (1329–1366)
Egbeka (1366–1397)
Orobiru (1397–1434)
Uwaifiokun (1434–1440)






Obas of the Benin Empire (1440-1897)
- Ewuare the Great (1440–1473)
 Ezoti (1473–1475)
 Olua (1475–1480)
 Ozolua (1480–1504)
 Esigie (1504–1547)
 Orhogbua (1547–1580)
 Ehengbuda (1580–1602)
 Ohuan (1602–1656)
 Ohenzae (1656–1661)
 Akenzae (1661–1669)
 Akengboi (1669–1675)
 Akenkpaye (1675–1684)
 Akengbedo (1684–1689)
 Ore-Oghene (1689–1701)
 Ewuakpe (1701–1712)
 Ozuere (1712–1713)
 Akenzua I (1713–1740)
 Eresoyen (1740–1750)
 Akengbuda (1750–1804)
 Obanosa (1804–1816)
 Ogbebo (1816)
 Osemwende (1816–1848)
 Adolo (1848–1888)
 Ovonramwen Nogbaisi (1888–1914) (exiled to Calabar by the British in 1897)




Post-Imperial Obas of Benin (1914-Present)
 Eweka II (1914–1933)
 Akenzua II (1933–1978)
 Erediauwa I (1979–present)

Erediauwa I (1979–present)
Some of the families of the Royal Benin Empire live elsewhere in the world through Europe, The United States, and Africa.

cheruv:
It seems you don't know anything about Ali Ika...how can the communities be ika and then speak ika as second language
You're Bini and not ika...but even then you're deficit in Bini history and its relationship with the ika. Concerning the igbanke,you've seen that am more on ground there than you. In fact you can't be Ika and not be bothered that Igbanke which is an Ika community has lost its language to Bini

Cire80:
Do you lack comprehensive ability? In my posts I've been making it clear my point is not if these communities are Ika or not. They can be Bini people losing their language or just speak Ika as a second language. Some of these people are mixed as well. And again, how can one distinguish between Bini people that speak Bini from Ika speaking Bini people when originally[b] Ika was of Bini stock[/b]? Same culture and same everything including migration stories just different times.

What do you know about igbanke? I didn't even talk about Igbanke except when I corrected you about there correct name so how did you know much about them? How is Igbanke losing their language when there language was more Edoid than it is now? Ika language including igbanke was more Edoid [/b]and [b]getting Igbonized day by day.

hammerF:
ITSEKIRI ARE NOT EDOID GROUP. THEY ARE ACTUALLY IJAW THAT ARE MIXED WITH YORUBA.

ISOKO ARE IJAW MIXED WITH URHOBO.

BINI ARE IKA IGBO [/b]MIXED WITH [b]YORUBA.

laudate:
Biko, stop this your theory that Bini people are Ika Igbo, mixed with Yoruba. There is absolutely no evidence to support this claim of Ika Igbo ancestry, with regards to the Bini. Even among their kings, none of them has ever had an Igbo name. Daalu zi!

hammerF:
DOUBTING THOMAS! SOONER OR LATER U WILL BELIEVE.

NO EVIDENCE? BUT I PROVIDED U WITH ALOT OF CLUES.

WAT EVIDENCE DO U HAVE TO THE CONTRARY?

laudate:
What evidence??! The similarity of a few words that run through the Bini and Igbo languages? That is still not solid evidence now. Like I asked you earlier, if truly the Bini had Ika Igbo ancestry, where is it reflected in the customs, culture, traditional music, burial practices, marriage rites etc.of the Binis? Am still waiting for the answer..!

hammerF:
Not a few but alot, i just mentioned few as examples.

The bolded is ur assignment. Go and research Bini customs, culture, traditional music, burial practices, marriage rites and try to find similarities with Anioma and Ondo Yorubas.

That should be a breeze, becos wat u dont find in Anioma, u will find in Ondo and of course some will be recent adaptation.

laudate:
So na dis angle you wan bring inside here? E no go work. You are the one making assertions that Bini people have Ika Igbo ancestry. He who asserts, must prove! So go and do the research and come back and post your findings or evidence here. We would review it and validate it, if it is found to be true. We are waiting!!

hammerF:
IGBANKE PEOPLE WILL TELL U THAT THEY ARE ANIOMA. THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE EDOID CLASS OF LANGUAGE.

IKA FALL INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS ANIOMA.

EDOID GROUP ARE BINI, URHOBO AND ESAN.

Cire80:
When I say Edoid I mean they used to have more Edo words and sentences than they do now. Years back, the Ika word for door was Ekue but now everyone is saying Uzor. Road used to be Uwaya, everyone is also saying Uzor. chair used to be Aga(rah), bench agbara and short stool was ekete now everyone use Oche generally for chair. I can give you hundred lists of Edo words that was in use in Ika area about 2 or 3 decades ago that have totally been replaced with Igbo words. It's only the elders that still use some of these words.

The Ika we speak today is not the Ika of 5 decades ago. The Ika spoken in those period are highly mixed with Edo and Igbo word but now all the Edo words are fast disappearing

Cire80:
When I say Edoid I mean they used to have more Edo words and sentences than they do now. Years back, the Ika word for door was Ekue but now everyone is saying Uzor. Road used to be Uwaya, everyone is also saying Uzor. chair used to be Aga(rah), bench agbara and short stool was ekete now everyone use Oche generally for chair. I can give you hundred lists of Edo words that was in use in Ika area about 2 or 3 decades ago that have totally been replaced with Igbo words. It's only the elders that still use some of these words.

The Ika we speak today is not the Ika of 5 decades ago. The Ika spoken in those period are highly mixed with Edo and Igbo word but now all the Edo words are fast disappearing