DMLords:


with all due respect bro you do not do justice with this write up.

children of 3 years old are being raped and butchered in southern Kaduna. the fear if the people no be here.

We said in our last community meeting, Jesus had no wives and children that he must protect. but we do.

if the killings don't stop till April, we will do worse than oyedepo thinks or imagine

I am from Southern Kaduna and I have spoken..

if you are claiming Christian, Christianity was spread by blood. Jesus said time has come to sell your cars and buy guns. I guess you know the time is here.

I love your writer ups. I even follow you but please don't write this trash again until you bury your mother without her head.

RIP Maman zyanba

PMIcon:

I only answered the question I was asked. I didn't say anything about what will happen afterwards.
Forgiveness is different from laws of the land that the bible say we should obey "FOR THE LORD'S SAKE."
A Christian is only justified in God's sight if he rebels against human authority ONLY when he does so to obey God's word.
Jesus talked about court judgement and punishment by law. It's not the same as taking laws into your hands.

When you forgive, that doesn't mean the law should not take its course. They are different. One is personal, the other is societal.

kelechi17:
I prefer living with an afonja in dsame country Dan a northerners

TonyeBarcanista:
By TonyeBarcanista

I read the well publicized article in which respected Bishop David Oyedepo of Winners Chapel called for the killing and sliding of throats of potential Muslims/Fulani attackers. In the words of Oyedepo

“You catch anyone that looks like them, kill him! There is no reporting to anybody. Kill him! Pull off his neck! And we spill his blood on the ground. What nonsense.”

Bishop Oyedepo Views Against Christian Doctrine:
The call by Bishop Oyedepo with due respect goes contrary to the Christian teachings going by what is recorded in the Bible as well as Bible teaching on how Christians should live.

Firstly, Jesus, our perfect example displayed it when in the book of Matthew 26:52, he condemned Apostle Peter for cutting off the ears of one of the servants of the High Priest that went to arrest him, named Malchus. Jesus not only healed the servant but admonished Peter that "for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

The action of Jesus Christ in the above story was in line with his teaching in the Mountain as recorded in Matthew 5:44, where he said But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;, as against "an eye for an eye" treatment that was practised by the Judaisers under the Mosaic law that was never perfect.

His disciples and the Christian Church lived according to this teaching by not retaliating even in the height of persecution during the Roman empire that saw Apostles Paul beheaded, Peter crucified under Emperor Nero, and other members of the early Church die violent deaths under the rule of Roman emperors. In fact, during that period, God showed John the beloved revelation of the last day BUT never did he empower him to retaliate or kill.

If Jesus Christ and the early Church stuck to Christian doctrine, where did Bishop Oyedepo got his own authority?

What Makes Us Christians:
The believers were first called Christians in Antioch because they displayed the rare characters of Jesus Christ. If this is true, it is safe that the thing that made us Christians is our leading of the life of Christ, not that of any man irrespective of title. If we can't be like Christ and heed to his teachings then we have no business calling ourselves Christians. Jesus stance against retaliating to the oppressing Romans made the Jews to prefer him to die instead of the violent Barnabas. We must be like Christ by insisting on non violence.

If Apostle James could admonished the early Church that was facing trials of various kind because of their faith to "count it all joy", how much more us?



His Call Against Nigeria Law:
Despite the fact that we have choose to accept our society to be lawless, the law of Nigeria is clearly against incite to kill fellow citizens and residents, as well as taking laws into ones hands aka self help.

The only authority empowered to bring defaulters of the law to justice is the Police and other agents of the State. No citizen has that power. As citizen, it is our civil duty to avail the Police and other security agents information to arrest criminals potential criminals and their activities. While jungle justice is usually employed by citizens due to ineptitude of the authorities, it never made the act right. But for one to incite the gruesome killing of people that "appear" as attackers and not just attackers, it is unfortunate. statement like “You catch anyone that looks like them, kill him!” must be condemned by all, and without partiality.

If these statements were made by Asari Dokubo or Nnamdi Kanu, I am very sure that the authorities won't take it lightly. The law must respect nobody irrespective of perceived standing in the society.

Statements Endangering Christians And Non Christians:
BEfore any war is fought, there is usually inciting statements from so called leaders. The statements credited to some Muslim groups and clerics, as well as this credited to Governor Elrufai and Bishop Oyedepo is what fuels sectarian violence in Nigeria. Truth is, should there be violence (like we have in Southern Kaduna), it is ONLY the defenceless innocent that get killed, while the elites and their families are fully secured. Nigerians, both Christians and Muslims must understand that the elite are never enemies irrespective of their noise in the media.

The statement of Oyedepo is capable of causing counter statement from some Islamic leaders and attack on citizens will start. The statement is not different from those of Abubakar Shekau or other extremists like Miyetti leaders and some other muslim fanatical clergies.

I condemn the genocide in Southern Kaduna, it is my belief that agents of Kaduna state government as well leaders of Miyetti Allah are complicit in this shameful killing. It is my hope that a case is established against perpetrators of the violence to higher authorities (like the ICC), but it does not in anyway justify incitement against anybody or group of persons.

As Christians we must adhere STRICTLY to Christian doctrine and not apostasy! Bishop David Oyedepo must be called to order.

I shall end this with the Words of Apostle Paul to the Church in Ephesus when the Church was under persecution in the book of Ephesians 6:12;

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

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morereb10:
ooh, chai, i have really lost a great friend. With this foolish and unguarded statement you made Tonye, you are indeed a bigot nonetheless.

So upon all the killings going on in this country, all you can come out and admonish Christians to do is to turn the other chick if they r hit? Who are you to say Oyedepo should be called to order?

That Bible you are quoting, you don't actually know it. Because God is a consuming fire and he consumes any person that declares himself his enemy. How many fights did Moses fought before getting to promise land? I bet he would have remained like a lamb so that his enemies will over run him. As far as their is God, their has been great killings on his behalf. quote me anywhere.

And as far as killings go, I keep telling people .. hhhmmmm. hmmmm.. that Islam is not more heartless than Christians. If you are a good historian, go and read history very well. Islam no reach anywhere. I keep telling people, if Christians start.. eh, especially the Catholics, the world will come to stand still.

Go and read history and read about the great persecution and read about the wiping away of women and read about the killings that gave birth to what we call the Bible today which was brought together in 'the council of nessie'.

Read about how Christianity was even created, you will know that Islam is playing with fire.

You come here come dey talk nonsense because your morals told you to be like Christ, you will be a lamb.

nonsense

Chedas:
hey idiot, u seem to think thru ur shithole. The authorities went after the 1st century xtians and krishna....oh...Krist brainwashed thugs..( sori typo!) and notin happened! The govt is more concerned about uproar dan conman alfa oyedepo personal mystics or jazz!

yaki84:
Op na afonja.........



Coward n a betrayer.


Infact op na tonye iscariot!

Oba22:
It is called self-defense. The killing must stop.
Meanwhile attacked is the best form of defense.

DMLords:


with all due respect bro you do not do justice with this write up.

children of 3 years old are being raped and butchered in southern Kaduna. the fear if the people no be here.

We said in our last community meeting, Jesus had no wives and children that he must protect. but we do.

if the killings don't stop till April, we will do worse than oyedepo thinks or imagine

I am from Southern Kaduna and I have spoken..

if you are claiming Christian, Christianity was spread by blood. Jesus said time has come to sell your cars and buy guns. I guess you know the time is here.

I love your writer ups. I even follow you but please don't write this trash again until you bury your mother without her head.

RIP Maman zyanba

TonyeBarcanista:

Read your Bible

KahlDrogo:
My brother, this us one of your finest pieces, if not the finest, to date. Ignore those ignorant little ipob kids who live, breathe and promote hate. How does a "man of God" make such a statement, a call to KILL, and people still fimd propriety in such a call? Were this to have come from a Muslim cleric would they be saying the same thing?

Has Oyedepo given his zealots any brochure or catalog that defines the appearance of a boko haram member to have called people to "kill anyone who looks like them"? If the blood of an innocent man is spilled as a result of this, is he ready to take responsibility for it?

Oyedepo goofed big time on this and unfortunately, he cannot undo it.

By the way, isnt it funny how those who hate everything yoruba and scream afonja all day on the forum are the ones licking oyedepos butthole right now?

Xzbit91:
I know I'm not a perfect Christian, I have my flaws but...
The comments I'm reading here coupled with the overwhelming support for these comments make me think we are in the endtime.
I actually can't believe people who call themselves Christians would choose to follow the teachings of Bishop oyedepo to the teaching of Christ, Christians have become followers of men instead of followers of Jesus Christ
Tonyebarcanista, thank you for reminding us of what is expected of a true Christian

TonyeBarcanista:

Lol someone even called me "Afonja"

If you investigate properly, those in support of Oyedepo are those that celebrates each time pipeline is blown by NDA and those that are keen apostles of Kanu.

Same people calling some people of Islam faith "fanatics" are the same people hailing this ridiculous doctrine by the "Bishop".

He even said he can command rain not to fall for 3 days, LOL! Though we are in dry season anyway.

Like you said, what if it was said by a Muslim cleric?

Splinz:
Oyedebo is simply ranting. The fact is, something is definitely wrong with mainstream 'churchianity'.

Imagine such an outburst from a supposedly man of God? Very unchristian!

Here's the thing. It is either Oyedebo is not well versed in Scriptures to know the mind of God concerning persecutions and attacks on true Christians (he can never claim that all
those meaningless curses were from God), or he's simply deceiving himself.

Does it mean that he doesn't trust God to save His own? Is God no longer the ALMIGHTY capable of wiping off all His enemies within a twinkling of an eye if He so wish? Does Oyedebo not trust His promises?

The Scriptures says: "The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and He knoweth them that trust in Him" (Nahum 1:7).

This is what we know and testify to! And no power can touch the Lord's elects!

Codes151:
Some people just woke up to post!!! When the killing of Christians n shit ungoing they never saw reason to talk!!! Oga shut up Abeg

KahlDrogo:
These arent Christians, they are simply using the crisis as a smokescrean to vent their frustrations and anger over the loss of their oreferred candidate in an election.

Dont be surprised ,99.9% of those in agreement with the so called man of god come from a "particular region" of the country, a region that hates yorubas with passion because they think yorubas were instrumental to jonathan's defeat; but thw funny thing is oyedepo is yoruba.

The bond that binds them together and binds them with outsiders is hatred for Buhari and Muslims; which also explains why they like Trump.

TonyeBarcanista:

Lol someone even called me "Afonja"

If you investigate properly, those in support of Oyedepo are those that celebrates each time pipeline is blown by NDA and those that are keen apostles of Kanu.

Same people calling some people of Islam faith "fanatics" are the same people hailing this ridiculous doctrine by the "Bishop".

He even said he can command rain not to fall for 3 days, LOL! Though we are in dry season anyway.

Like you said, what if it was said by a Muslim cleric?

TonyeBarcanista:

Lol someone even called me "Afonja"

If you investigate properly, those in support of Oyedepo are those that celebrates each time pipeline is blown by NDA and those that are keen apostles of Kanu.

Same people calling some people of Islam faith "fanatics" are the same people hailing this ridiculous doctrine by the "Bishop".

He even said he can command rain not to fall for 3 days, LOL! Though we are in dry season anyway.

Like you said, what if it was said by a Muslim cleric?

TonyeBarcanista:
Lol