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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 12:36pm On Jan 18, 2017
Funlordjnr:
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Oba of contradictions! I thought he had a broken back according to you?
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you can sabi find trouble

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:39pm On Jan 18, 2017
Ama just drop this here

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordjnr: 12:52pm On Jan 18, 2017
Form is temporary but class is really permanent!






Where are all those his haters from the summer again sef? Dem staple una lips!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 1:01pm On Jan 18, 2017
PietroRico:
I just don't see the rush...sorry

No need to apologize.

it's just my view. You're entitled to yours as well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 1:12pm On Jan 18, 2017
if we somehow get 20million or 18 with a buy back clause that na good business
I don't think depay lack of success was due to laziness na just bad luck and maybe his talent was way overrated.

shoutout to LVG for that FA cup trophy,the man retire yesterday.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 1:58pm On Jan 18, 2017
elrony:
Lol joeace2020 don bring him own grin cheesy

Ma nigguh, ma nigguh! cool
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:04pm On Jan 18, 2017
BushWickBill:


No need to apologize.

it's just my view. You're entitled to yours as well.




I actually support PietroRico on this one. I don't think we should sell out potentials anyhow just because we wanna get rid of dead weight. Lyon should bring money if they're serious. We're in no hurry to sell.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 2:06pm On Jan 18, 2017
SIRcumalot:
if we somehow get 20million or 18 with a buy back clause that na good business
I don't think depay lack of success was due to laziness na just bad luck and maybe his talent was way overrated.

shoutout to LVG for that FA cup trophy,the man retire yesterday.

LvG was adamant and there were few signs to show we were on the right path. He won the FA cup, yes, but we need to be challenging for the top ( or playing like a team that's challenging for the top.

He actually didn't retire. He's come out to say he's on a sabbatical and will probably be back on the market in 4 to 5 month's time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 2:42pm On Jan 18, 2017
SIRcumalot:
if we somehow get 20million or 18 with a buy back clause that na good business
I don't think depay lack of success was due to laziness na just bad luck and maybe his talent was way overrated.

shoutout to LVG for that FA cup trophy,the man retire yesterday.
I don't think figures can be inserted in such classes. Only percentages.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CONTEDDICTED: 2:53pm On Jan 18, 2017
Funlordjnr:



Form is temporary but class is really permanent!






Where are all those his haters from the summer again sef? Dem staple una lips!
The great Manchester United that the entire universe is supposedly scared of don't have a player with over 20 goals in a season in all competitions for the past 4 years


My chest cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 3:13pm On Jan 18, 2017
ChristineC:
Ander Herrera and Paul Pogba played as a middle two for 45 mins. From my view they were not overrun.

Kagawa10 be kind enough to bless me with some analysis smiley

We actually bypassed the midfield once Mourinho realised there's no way we would dominate Pool's diamond midfield but sadly we still couldn't do much until Fellaini came on. I always state that Fellaini is one of player with the best movement in the team and I still stand by it.

Personally, I think Carrick should have stayed on. Yes, he wasn't as effective as he was being man-marked by Lallana but we still created better chances with him than without him. The main problem is neither Pogba nor Herrera provided passing options for Carrick and as such, he had no option than to go backward most times. Even Herrera wasn't doing better in Carrick's role either until Fellaini came on to provide option with his movement in the midfield.

The reason why I feel Carrick should have stayed on is based on the fact that Pool camped back into their half after their goal and was defending their 1 goal lead until the final 10 mins after we equalised. That was the only time they came out from their half and created some few chances which Widjanum missed anyway. I feel if Carrick had stayed on, we could have hurt them a lot more at the time they were defending a goal lead. Not forgetting Fellaini whose movement and physical prowess also helped in creating havoc throughout and he played a major part in our equaliser.

I really don't want to talk about Pogba because he was dogshite in the game. His movement and awareness were nothing to write home about as well as his technical skills which were strangely average. Same with Herrera although Herrera work rate made up for his poor movement and awareness yesterday.

I will love to see a 3-man midfield of Carrick - Pogba and Fellaini and see how it works out. One thing I know is the fact that Fellaini's movement always complement Carrick, the only problem is that his ball skills are not as fantastic as his movement but one fact I know is that he was a solid complimentary midfielder under Van gaal and was integral in our Fa cup win and our late top 4 run. No doubt that Herrera has done well with his constant pressing, work rate and all but I still feel his movement and awareness are quite lacking as shown on sunday when he couldn't provide passing option for Carrick. Pogba wasn't any different either. They were both bad although Herrera's work rate gave him a lot of redemption.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 3:27pm On Jan 18, 2017
Leyqute:


I actually support PietroRico on this one. I don't think we should sell out potentials anyhow just because we wanna get rid of dead weight. Lyon should bring money if they're serious. We're in no hurry to sell.

Memphis went to the world cup in 2014.
Was top scorer in Holland the season before he joined United for 25 million pounds.

He can hardly be classified as potential by any means. Especially after over a season an a half and limited minutes played for us.

He simply has not been good enough for United. So I'm not sure where this idea about him being an asset to us came from.

I just wonder why how much we sell him is an issue, given that if Lyon don't buy him, he will still be earning wages by sitting down doing nothing for us.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:32pm On Jan 18, 2017
Kagawa10:


We actually bypassed the midfield once Mourinho realised there's no way we would dominate Pool's diamond midfield but sadly we still couldn't do much until Fellaini came on. I always state that Fellaini is one of player with the best movement in the team and I still stand by it.

Personally, I think Carrick should have stayed on. Yes, he wasn't as effective as he was being man-marked by Lallana but we still created better chances with him than without him. The main problem is neither Pogba nor Herrera provided passing options for Carrick and as such, he had no option than to go backward most times. Even Herrera wasn't doing better in Carrick's role either until Fellaini came on to provide option with his movement in the midfield.

The reason why I feel Carrick should have stayed on is based on the fact that Pool camped back into their half after their goal and was defending their 1 goal lead until the final 10 mins after we equalised. That was the only time they came out from their half and created some few chances which Widjanum missed anyway. I feel if Carrick had stayed on, we could have hurt them a lot more at the time they were defending a goal lead. Not forgetting [b]Fellaini whose movement [/b]and physical prowess also helped in creating havoc throughout and he played a major part in our equaliser.

I really don't want to talk about Pogba because he was dogshite in the game. His movement and awareness were nothing to write home about as well as his technical skills which were strangely average. Same with Herrera although Herrera work rate made up for his poor movement and awareness yesterday.

[b]I will love to see a 3-man midfield of Carrick - Pogba and Fellaini [/b]and see how it works out. One thing I know is the fact that Fellaini's movement always complement Carrick, the only problem is that his ball skills are not as fantastic as his movement but one fact I know is that he was a solid complimentary midfielder under Van gaal and was integral in our Fa cup win and our late top 4 run. No doubt that Herrera has done well with his constant pressing, work rate and all but I still feel his movement and awareness are quite lacking as shown on sunday when he couldn't provide passing option for Carrick. Pogba wasn't any different either. They were both bad although Herrera's work rate gave him a lot of redemption.

Fellaini's movement? Which movement? A midfield trio of Carrick, Pogba and Fellaini? Dude what are you saying? Are you taking us forward or backwards?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:33pm On Jan 18, 2017
BushWickBill:


Memphis went to the world cup in 2014.
Was top scorer in Holland the season before he joined United for 25 million pounds.

He can hardly be classified as potential by any means. Especially after over a season an a half and limited minutes played for us.

He simply has not been good enough for United. So I'm not sure where this idea about him being an asset to us came from.

I just wonder why how much we sell him is an issue, given that if Lyon don't buy him, he will still be earning wages by sitting down doing nothing for us.

How old is Memphis Depay? How old is Martial?

Although, his head at the moment seems to be in the hands of one Dutch witch-doctor, he's done something in the past to warrant being referred to as having potential.

If he visits MFM or SSCOAN and get released from that bondage you think he'd be this bad?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 3:37pm On Jan 18, 2017
Leyqute:


Fellaini's movement? Which movement? A midfield trio of Carrick, Pogba and Fellaini? Dude what are you saying? Are you taking us forward or backwards?

You definitely didn't watch the game on Sunday. Fellaini was part of the reason we equalised! He was very good after he came on.

Also, he was good as a no 8 under Van Gaal. The only thing I won't recommend is playing him as a DM even though he was good in that role at the start of the season but still, the DM isn't a role he should be playing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordjnr: 3:43pm On Jan 18, 2017
CONTEDDICTED:

The great Manchester United that the entire universe is supposedly scared of don't have a player with over 20 goals in a season in all competitions for the past 4 years


My chest cheesy cheesy cheesy



grin


Listen my "soccer son".....take a look at this 2 Pictures depicting our respective clubs achievements! If not for ogbeche 77's benevolence regarding you blue mongs....do you actually believe you have any right to even dream of trolling "funlord or the mighty man united on this thread or even in your real life EVER?"



Honestly be thankful that the Internet has allowed you access to discuss soccer matters with fans of our calibre! In a perfect world you would actually only deserve to be my errand boy when I need you to buy me cigarettes and recharge cards!



MAN U >>> Chelshit! (all day, everyday)...do the math if you still possess the ability to count..... my boy!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 3:50pm On Jan 18, 2017
Leyqute:


How old is Memphis Depay? How old is Martial?

Although, his head at the moment seems to be in the hands of one Dutch witch-doctor, he's done something in the past to warrant being referred to as having potential.

If he visits MFM or SSCOAN and get released from that bondage you think he'd be this bad?

Age has nothing to do with it brah.

Memphis is 22. At 22 Cristiano Ronaldo playing at the same United was United's top scorer and on his way to being named PFA Player of the year and Young player of the year.
At 22 Wayne Rooney was a permanent fixture in United's lineup despite being the most expensive teenager at that time.
At 22 Ryan Giggs was already a stalwart and an icon for United. Same as David Beckham.

What has Memphis achieved at 22? Or are we still going to tag him with the "potential" title?

Martial has less experience than Memphis but has managed to keep his place in the squad despite being younger than the Memphis you are making a case for.
Martial has won games for United and put in memorable performances for us despite him not being anywhere close to the form he showed in his debut season.

The reason we are having this debate is because he has been nothing short of terrible. He has not offered anything close to the hopes we had for him, scoring in non-descript competitions and against sub-zero competition.

He should be dashed for free or used as part of a player swap. plus cash. He does not deserve the benefit of a transfer fee, no matter how little.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 3:51pm On Jan 18, 2017
Funlordjnr:




grin


Listen my "soccer son".....take a look at this 2 Pictures depicting our respective clubs achievements! If not for ogbeche 77's benevolence regarding you blue mongs....do you actually believe you have any right to even dream of trolling "funlord or the mighty man united on this thread or even in your real life EVER?"



Honestly be thankful that the Internet has allowed you access to discuss soccer matters with fans of our calibre! In a perfect world you would actually only deserve to be my errand boy when I need you to buy me cigarettes and recharge cards!



MAN U >>> Chelshit! (all day, everyday)...do the math if you still possess the ability to count my boy!
Bro, ignore this fella who has absolutely nothing to say.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordjnr: 3:54pm On Jan 18, 2017
BushWickBill:

Bro, ignore this fella who has absolutely nothing to say.


I just want make him no dey stress my mentions with unnecessary crap! @ least make him know the truth about him club status so that him no go dey always run away like the other day when I corner am!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 3:55pm On Jan 18, 2017
@Leyqute, Herrera can still play in the place of Carrick just like he did against City where we came alive as soon as Fellaini was moved forward from his DM role while Herrera took over the DM ole. So don't think someone is trying to send your beloved Herrera away.

If I could have my way though, both Herrera and Fellaini would be replaced with better players asap!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 4:19pm On Jan 18, 2017
Fellaini when played in an advanced position is one hell of a player.
i never doubted his quality. wink , I think we should get maybe one LWF/AM like brahimi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:29pm On Jan 18, 2017
Kagawa10:


You definitely didn't watch the game on Sunday. Fellaini was part of the reason we equalised! He was very good after he came on.

Also, he was good as a no 8 under Van Gaal. The only thing I won't recommend is playing him as a DM even though he was good in that role at the start of the season but still, the DM isn't a role he should be playing.

What movement does the slowest Man Utd player offer in midfield to push the team forward and create goal-scoring chances? Are you for real?

Sure, Man Utd's play improved after he came on against L'pool, but that doesn't mean he's the ideal midfielder. At the moment he's only useful as a sub, full stop.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:48pm On Jan 18, 2017
BushWickBill:


Age has nothing to do with it brah.

Memphis is 22. At 22 Cristiano Ronaldo playing at the same United was United's top scorer and on his way to being named PFA Player of the year and Young player of the year.
At 22 Wayne Rooney was a permanent fixture in United's lineup despite being the most expensive teenager at that time.
At 22 Ryan Giggs was already a stalwart and an icon for United. Same as David Beckham.

What has Memphis achieved at 22? Or are we still going to tag him with the "potential" title?

Martial has less experience than Memphis but has managed to keep his place in the squad despite being younger than the Memphis you are making a case for.
Martial has won games for United and put in memorable performances for us despite him not being anywhere close to the form he showed in his debut season.

The reason we are having this debate is because he has been nothing short of terrible. He has not offered anything close to the hopes we had for him, scoring in non-descript competitions and against sub-zero competition.



Age has a role in it bro. He is still young and can develop. He hasn't reached the peak of his career. There are players who start playing exceptionally well in their mid-twenties.

About his record. He was the highest goal in the Eredivisie, like Suarez and Ronado did, and he helped PSV to the title after several years of league bareness. In 2015 he was voted "Best Young Player" in the world by France Football.

If after selling to Lyon he starts performing you'll hear peeps saying "eyah, Utd shouldn't have sold him."

Maybe we should've allowed him to one more season there to mature before buying him but he still could be better. Or maybe a loan will set his brain the right way.

He should be dashed for free or used as part of a player swap. plus cash. He does not deserve the benefit of a transfer fee, no matter how little.


Look atew.

And be wasting money anyhow abi? And what evidence do you have that his replacement will be better?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:49pm On Jan 18, 2017
Kagawa10:
@Leyqute, Herrera can still play in the place of Carrick just like he did against City where we came alive as soon as Fellaini was moved forward from his DM role while Herrera took over the DM ole. So don't think someone is trying to send your beloved Herrera away.

If I could have my way though, both Herrera and Fellaini would be replaced with better players asap!

The only thing Fellaini is useful for is to be a sub. He's mostly awful whenever he starts.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 4:58pm On Jan 18, 2017
Leyqute:


What movement does the slowest Man Utd player offer in midfield to push the team forward and create goal-scoring chances? Are you for real?

Sure, Man Utd's play improved after he came on against L'pool, but that doesn't mean he's the ideal midfielder. At the moment he's only useful as a sub, full stop.


Movement isn't dependent on your speed. As long as you know the position to take up to draw out the opposition, you're good to go.

Fellaini has got a good movement and awareness whether you like it or not. It's a pity, his ball skills isn't as good!

Yes, he's not the best midfielder out there but he's not totally bad. In fact, I began to respect him after his performance in our FA cup and late top 4 runs unlike Herrera who was totally abysmal last season! Did you think if Pogba wasn't in the team to provide the flairs and incisiveness needed, would you have actually appreciated whatever Herrera brings to the team?

No wonder Van Gaal didn't take a liking to Herrera's display and would rather play him as a no 10 because his movement and awareness weren't good enough for the midfield but then, Herrera doesn't have the flair nor the creativity in the final third anyway! I think both Herrera and Pogba compliments each other quite well because one is a workhorse and the other is a creative player however, their poor movement and awareness are detrimental to Carrick's play, even though Carrick has done well enough to complement them!
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 5:11pm On Jan 18, 2017
Leyqute:


The only thing Fellaini is useful for is to be a sub. He's mostly awful whenever he starts.

He was still good against City even after he was moved away from the DM role.

FYI, I would rather we have better players in his place and that of Herrera!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:12pm On Jan 18, 2017
Funlordjnr:
tongue

Oba of contradictions! I thought he had a broken back according to you?
Coupled with the chronic back injury
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:21pm On Jan 18, 2017
PietroRico:
I don't think figures can be inserted in such classes. Only percentages.
I no get you
Percentage like how?
Am just saying if we do sell for Less than our asking price,we should insert a buy-back clause incase we need am again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:22pm On Jan 18, 2017
Leyqute:


LvG was adamant and there were few signs to show we were on the right path. He won the FA cup, yes, but we need to be challenging for the top ( or playing like a team that's challenging for the top.

He actually didn't retire. He's come out to say he's on a sabbatical and will probably be back on the market in 4 to 5 month's time.

I just they give the great philosopher some rep.
I can see he still crazy why he no go China to go make some dough.smh.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:25pm On Jan 18, 2017
SIRcumalot:


I just they give the great philosopher some rep.
I can see he still a crazy why he no go China to go make some dough.smh.

Don't mind the geriatric geezer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:26pm On Jan 18, 2017
Kagawa10:


Movement isn't dependent on your speed. As long as you know the position to take up to draw out the opposition, you're good to go.

Fellaini has got a good movement and awareness whether you like it or not. It's a pity, his ball skills isn't as good!

Yes, he's not the best midfielder out there but he's not totally bad. In fact, I began to respect him after his performance in our FA cup and late top 4 runs unlike Herrera who was totally abysmal last season! Did you think if Pogba wasn't in the team to provide the flairs and incisiveness needed, would you have actually appreciated whatever Herrera brings to the team?

No wonder Van Gaal didn't take a liking to Herrera's display and would rather play him as a no 10 because his movement and awareness weren't good enough for the midfield but then, Herrera doesn't have the flair nor the creativity in the final third anyway! I think both Herrera and Pogba compliments each other quite well because one is a workhorse and the other is a creative player however, their poor movement and awareness are detrimental to Carrick's play, even though Carrick has done well enough to complement them!


Okay. Fellaini has great movements. I agree with you.

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