Supporting corruption, illegality and rebellion against Nigeria

Proudlyngwa:

Bros those people don't have an idea on refining, there is a huge difference btw refining and distilling, which they are doing.
Should they even attempt to go legal they will run in loss, only waste mgt will cripple them.
If it was easier for them to sell the crude directly they will, what they are doing is a waste of resources.
What the useless Nigerian govt should be thinking of write now is buying modular refineries and paying with crude, not repairing one useless relic , that should be in a museum or building one gigantic monstrosity that if it breaks down ,becomes an issue.

There you're!!. Modular refineries is exactly what their technology would evolve into!!. Or you think I' am talking about gigantic world class refinery before? They'll build small scale refineries all over the Niger delta.

Yes, but it's only when such businesses legalized that modular refineries would spring up everywhere round the country, and this talk of fuel scarcity and heavy importation of petroleum would come to an end.

ourema:

It is very clear you never read the full article

ofcos he never did, he is among the growing numbers of absent brained people.

Proudlyngwa:
.actually those things are distilleries not refineries.
Can the rivers state house of assembly come up with ideas on friendly ways of shutting down the refineries.

ITK< waht is a refinery? is it not a distillery

Proudlyngwa:

Bros those people don't have an idea on refining, there is a huge difference btw refining and distilling, which they are doing.
Should they even attempt to go legal they will run in loss, only waste mgt will cripple them.
If it was easier for them to sell the crude directly they will, what they are doing is a waste of resources.
What the useless Nigerian govt should be thinking of write now is buying modular refineries and paying with crude, not repairing one useless relic , that should be in a museum or building one gigantic monstrosity that if it breaks down ,becomes an issue.

brov you have no clue of waht you are talking about seriously, have you seen these guys?
Or you think these bunkers are illiterate right? they are highly skilled people FYI

musicwriter:


There you're!!. Modular refineries is exactly what their technology would evolve into!!. Or you think I' am talking about gigantic world class refinery before? They'll build small scale refineries all over the Niger delta.

Yes, but it's only when such businesses legalized that modular refineries would spring up everywhere round the country, and this talk of fuel scarcity and heavy importation of petroleum would come to an end.

Their technology has nothing to do with refining.
Cooking crude on logs of wood is never refining

erico2k2:

brov you have no clue of waht you are talking about seriously, have you seen these guys?
Or you think these bunkers are illiterate right? they are highly skilled people FYI

Unfortunately for you, I have seen their apparatus, skilled yes probably.
Refiners haha don't make me laugh.
What exactly do you term as refining if I may ask.

Proudlyngwa:
Their technology has nothing to do with refining. Cooking crude on logs of wood is never refining

You're still thinking it would be the same when legalized.

Proudlyngwa:

Unfortunately for you, I have seen their apparatus, skilled yes probably.
Refiners haha don't make me laugh.
What exactly do you term as refining if I may ask.

Is getting a product in a fine state from a raw material
Let me further enlighten you, There are only two process of obtaining refined product from crude oil in Nigeria.
1.FRACTIONAL DISTILLATION(This involves a distiling tower, which is a drum tank in the forest)
2 CRACKING
Both requires huge Energy to raise the temperature of teh crude to various degree for different products to flow out
you want me to go on??

erico2k2:

Is getting a product in a fine state from a raw material
Let me further enlighten you, There[s] are only two process of obtaining refined product from crude oil in Nigeria. [/s]
1.FRACTIONAL DISTILLATION [s] (This involves a distiling tower, which is a drum tank in the forest) [/s]
2 CRACKING
Both requires huge Energy to raise the temperature of teh crude to various degree for different products to flow out
you want me to go on??

Bros you have no idea of crude oil refining, stop embarasing yourself

D honourable is a beneficial of the illegality.JTF illegality is killing him.

musicwriter:


You're still thinking it would be the same when legalized.

You don't get my point, if they had the finance to get a functional modular refinery.
They would have the finance to get a license , this guys are only cooking this crude because its easier to sell diesel than to sell crude, if they could sell the crude , they won't waste their time and energy trying to refine it.
If they are interested in refining, they have legal means of showcasing their talents which can be vetted, their HOR members can then speak for them and businessmen will key into their plans, unfortunately that's not how it is.

Proudlyngwa:


Bros you have no idea of crude oil refining, stop embarasing yourself

Ok fair enough, tell me waht is crude refining then Im waiting.I gave mine and her is the proof
Fractional distillation is the separation of a mixture into its component parts, or fractions, separating chemical compounds by their boiling point by heating them to a temperature at which one or more fractions of the compound will vaporize. It uses distillation to fractionate. Generally the component parts have boiling points that differ by less than 25 °C from each other under a pressure of one atmosphere. If the difference in boiling points is greater than 25 °C, a simple distillation is typically used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_distillation.

Proudlyngwa:

You don't get my point, if they had the finance to get a functional modular refinery.
They would have the finance to get a license , this guys are only cooking this crude because its easier to sell diesel than to sell crude, if they could sell the crude , they won't waste their time and energy trying to refine it.
If they are interested in refining, they have legal means of showcasing their talents which can be vetted, their HOR members can then speak for them and businessmen will key into their plans, unfortunately that's not how it is.

Plz Im waiting for you to tell me what you think is refining, dont just dodge like and illiterate,come on Im sure you got something upstairs to tell me

erico2k2:

Ok fair enough, tell me waht is crude refining then Im waiting.I gave mine and her is the proof
Fractional distillation is the separation of a mixture into its component parts, or fractions, separating chemical compounds by their boiling point by heating them to a temperature at which one or more fractions of the compound will vaporize. It uses distillation to fractionate. Generally the component parts have boiling points that differ by less than 25 °C from each other under a pressure of one atmosphere. If the difference in boiling points is greater than 25 °C, a simple distillation is typically used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_distillation.

Bros Crude oil refining is a combination of fractional distillation, catalytic cracking, gas separation from solids before distilling amidst a lot of other things.
Have you seen the apparatus most of these guys use cause I have, intact what they are doing is wastage and environmental pollution.

Proudlyngwa:

You don't get my point, if they had the finance to get a functional modular refinery.
They would have the finance to get a license , this guys are only cooking this crude because its easier to sell diesel than to sell crude, if they could sell the crude , they won't waste their time and energy trying to refine it.
If they are interested in refining, they have legal means of showcasing their talents which can be vetted, their HOR members can then speak for them and businessmen will key into their plans, unfortunately that's not how it is.

Government have to first make the business legal before anything else can take effect.

musicwriter:


Government have to first make the business legal before anything else can take effect.

Its already legal, there is a process on it.
You can contact DPR for clarification.

Proudlyngwa:
Its already legal, there is a process on it. You can contact DPR for clarification.

Then, eventually the illegal refineries would disappear.

musicwriter:


Then, eventually the illegal refineries would disappear.

The illegal refineries might disappear
Some people hate doing things lawfully

Proudlyngwa:

Bros Crude oil refining is a combination of fractional distillation, catalytic cracking, gas separation from solids before distilling amidst a lot of other things.
Have you seen the apparatus most of these guys use cause I have, intact what they are doing is wastage and environmental pollution.

What you said up there is pure gibberish, you mixing words, there is no relationship BTW fractional distillation and cracking.
Fractional distillation involves evaporation and condensation
Cracking involves braking down of long chains of hydrocarbons into short ones
so how do these two systems mix?
main-while you used the word catalytic cracking.Mate that is just one of the 5 cracking methods.Let us not 4get a catalyst is something that speeds up a reaction, as Nikel in Iron Ore and silica-alumina/Zeolites in fluid catalytic cracking.

You said Distilling, look Distilling is only relative to fractional distillation, you have a condenser so waht else are you saying?
Or you think you chatting to a dunce?
And waht do you mean or understand by gas seperation, when we have natural gas explain
And as per if I have seen these apparatus, ofocs, my base is PHC when Im in Nigeria Drum of diesel from boys is N35k as we speak

erico2k2:


What you said up there is pure gibberish, you mixing words, there is no relationship BTW fractional distillation and cracking.
Fractional distillation involves evaporation and condensation
Cracking involves braking down of long chains of hydrocarbons into short ones
so how do these two systems mix?
main-while you used the word catalytic cracking.Mate that is just one of the 5 cracking methods.Let us not 4get a catalyst is something that speeds up a reaction, as Nikel in Iron Ore and silica-alumina/Zeolites in fluid catalytic cracking.

You said Distilling, look Distilling is only relative to fractional distillation, you have a condenser so waht else are you saying?
Or you think you chatting to a dunce?
And waht do you mean or understand by gas seperation, when we have natural gas explain
And as per if I have seen these apparatus, ofocs, my base is PHC when Im in Nigeria Drum of diesel from boys is N35k as we speak

Calm down
Now call yourself OLODO
I SAID ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF REFINING
Not just fractional distillation
Have you called yourself OLODO.

kITATITA:

Have you condemned oil theft and installation of those illegal refineries? Do you mean that such activity doesn't harm the environment and doesn't lead to black soot?

Does that oil belongs to your father,Anuofia i am asking you

erico2k2:

ITK< waht is a refinery? is it not a distillery

Thank you. Dont mind the self-defeating fools whose minds are poisoned with colonial mentality. Refining is not rocket or nuclear science. It is just simple distillation with more precautions due to volatility of hydrocarbons. Biafra constructed and used these modular refineries and was self-sufficient in fuel. This was 1967 to 1970. 50 years ago. Half a century ago.

Proudlyngwa:

Calm down
Now call yourself OLODO
I SAID ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF REFINING
Not just fractional distillation
Have you called yourself OLODO.

This is how we fish out fools who have no clue in what they are saying, you result in name callings without bringing any tangible argument to the table.You have made no sense till now,all you poured out where gibberish from your little research.
Gone are the days where your likes will just throw some big words about and mumus will think you are making sense.
I ASKED YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION,ONE I REMEMBER FROM MY SECONDARY SCHOOL DAYS,WHATS THE RELATIONSHIP BTW FRACTIONAL DISTILLATION AND CRACKING STILL NO ANSWER.

holocron:


Thank you. Dont mind the self-defeating fools whose minds are poisoned with colonial mentality. Refining is not rocket or nuclear science. It is just simple distillation with more precautions due to volatility of hydrocarbons. Biafra constructed and used these modular refineries and was self-sufficient in fuel. This was 1967 to 1970. 50 years ago. Half a century ago.

Dont mind him, he thinks he is taling to o ne of his village friends , he is telling al those process combined in refining crude whereas they are entirely independent of each other and work in opposite ways.

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kITATITA:

Have you condemned oil theft and installation of those illegal refineries? Do you mean that such activity doesn't harm the environment and doesn't lead to black soot?

Mr, what they are trying to say is burning of illegal refineries further damage d environment. They should apply other methods of eradicating it.

Proudlyngwa:

Calm down
Now call yourself OLODO
I SAID ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF REFINING
Not just fractional distillation
Have you called yourself OLODO.

You know absolutely nothing about crude refining and you are too arrogant to admit so.

Learning is an everyday thing,only fools are quick to insult people on faceless group.

erico2k2:

This is how we fish out fools who have no clue in what they are saying, you result in name callings without bringing any tangible argument to the table.You have made no sense till now,all you poured out where gibberish from your little research.
Gone are the days where your likes will just throw some big words about and mumus will think you are making sense.
I ASKED YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION,ONE I REMEMBER FROM MY SECONDARY SCHOOL DAYS,WHATS THE RELATIONSHIP BTW FRACTIONAL DISTILLATION AND CRACKING STILL NO ANSWER.

Are you asking me a question in relation to my post or you are starting a fresh challenge cause I said both fractional distillation, catalytic cracking and other things are involved in crude oil refining, I said and I maintain that in crude oil refining, fractional distillation is not the only process, and your illegal refiners only cook out diesel or kerosine as they don't have the apparatus to get out other refined products, otherwise we would have been seeing local aviation oil, local engine oil, local grease, local grease , local brake fluid and many other things, instead we have diesel that knocks engines because of improper separation byw diesel and other heavy hydrocarbons and kerosine that explodes because of huge quantity of gas in it.
So once again what is your question is it relation to my earlier post as I believe I have handled that or is it a new challenge.

jodeci:


You know absolutely nothing about crude refining and you are too arrogant to admit so.

Learning is an everyday thing,only fools are quick to insult people on faceless group.

From your preferred Wikipedia , pic 1 below is a block diagram of a distillation unit which is a part of a refining unit pic 2. ,from the images ,you should be able to see that fractional distillation is a process in refining and not refining. i have seen diesel cooked in obuzo Abia state, Mbiama, Omoku in rivers state and some other places I can't remember there name,
This guys are just wasting resources and polluting environment, nothing categories them as refining crude, illegal or not.
From my opinion of an illegal refinery , its a refinery doing a true refinery job but know license to operate and with the pictures of what the showed the air force bombing sometime last year or early this year, those were not refineries

Nigerians find it difficult to understand English, yet attack each other with it.

Mandesz:
biafrans will say GEJ caused all diz.. he sud not av handed over to bubu.
yahya jammeh theorem.

youself

kITATITA:

Have you condemned oil theft and installation of those illegal refineries? Do you mean that such activity doesn't harm the environment and doesn't lead to black soot?

He was sleeping during all those oil theft

ourema:

It is very clear you never read the full article

It would be more balanced judgement if all that condemn the burning of the said refineries also condemned their installation prior to now.