Please for the last time, esan people of edo state are not Igbo nor are they related to Igbo. Go and read their history, the Esans were chiefs of the Benin empire who fled due to the tyranny of the oba. Just like the Afemai, and etsako people. We were eventually reunited with the oba and he gave the Chiefs titles like onojie. Esan people are bini people but we're seen as a different tribe for some weird reason I don't know of.
Esan people answer names like omoye, oyegun, omosede, adesuwa etc. esan gods are osun(god of medicine), olokun(god of the sea), ayelala (wicked deity I believe) ogun(god of iron and war) and esu(trickster god)

There are people called aniomas who are Igbo settler tribes in edo state. They've adopted edo names and are trying to annex themselves into edo history. They are not descendants of the Benin empire or indigenous to the state.
Not all Esans are fair skinned, few are. Igbos think they're the only ones who are fair skinned which means Esans must have Igbo blood. This is a stupid lie I hear them say.
No offence to igbos but please just stop. We edo's are working towards uniting ourselves. If there's any tribe edo's can even be related to it's the Yoruba's. not igbos.
Esans don't answer names like chinyere or Nkechi. Any edo person you see answering Igbo names are Igbo people. Our Chiefs are called onojie infact in uromi our king is called "OJUROMI" not igwe. In owan their king is "ElaWure" not igwe.

Chikena!

op calm down before you hurt yourself

now did anyone tell u esan is igbo?

Monkeydeychop:
Please for the last time, esan people of edo state are not Igbo nor are they related to Igbo. Go and read their history, the Esans were chiefs of the Benin empire who fled due to the tyranny of the oba. Just like the Afemai, and etsako people. We were eventually reunited with the oba and he gave the Chiefs titles like onojie. Esan people are bini people but we're seen as a different tribe for some weird reason I don't know of.
Esan people answer names like omoye, oyegun, omosede, adesuwa etc. esan gods are osun(god of medicine), olokun(god of the sea), ayelala (wicked deity I believe) ogun(god of iron and war) and esu(trickster god)

There are people called aniomas who are Igbo settler tribes in edo state. They've adopted edo names and are trying to annex themselves into edo history. They are not descendants of the Benin empire or indigenous to the state.
Not all Esans are fair skinned, few are. Igbos think they're the only ones who are fair skinned which means Esans must have Igbo blood. This is a stupid lie I hear them say.
No offence to igbos but please just stop. We edo's are working towards uniting ourselves. If there's any tribe edo's can even be related to it's the Yoruba's. not igbos.
Esans don't answer names like chinyere or Nkechi. Any edo person you see answering Igbo names are Igbo people. Our Chiefs are called onojie infact in uromi our king is called "OJUROMI" not igwe. In owan their king is "ElaWure" not igwe.

Chikena!

People from Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers have fair skinned, who says essan people are Igbo people?

you are looking for people to argue with but Igbo people no get ya time

You see what I'm saying?
"Edo-Bini" meaning "We settled where I delivered my bouncing baby Prince-Oduduwa".

The Edos and The Binis are a Heritage of a Powerful Oduduwa Princess.

Lol

Have d land grabbers reached Esan

In the colonial reports, some Esan communities admitted that they migrated from
Igboland.
And there are also Western Igbo communities with villages whose founders were of Esan origin.

Other than that, Esan is Esan and Igbo is Igbo.
I'm yet to see any Igbo person claim Esan people, the Esan language is not intelligible to the Igbo. The OP is an attention seeker.

https://www.nairaland.com/3463205/igbo-speaking-people-inter-relationship

Drug addiction na bad thing.

pazienza:
In the colonial reports, some Esan communities admitted that they migrated from
Igboland.
And there are also Western Igbo communities with villages whose founders were of Esan origin.

Other than that, Esan is Esan and Igbo is Igbo.
I'm yet to see any Igbo person claim Esan people, the Esan language is not intelligible to the Igbo. The OP is an attention seeker.

https://www.nairaland.com/3463205/igbo-speaking-people-inter-relationship

It's actually Yorubas that are the guilty ones going by personal experience. I have quite a lot of Esan friends and people always ask if they are Igbos. It is not only because of skin colour but because Esan people are hustlers to the core and most Nigerians reason it's Igbos that can do anything for money.

What kind of attention-seeking is this? At what point in history, past and present, did Igbo people ever claim the Esan are Igbos?

There are igbos trying to include edo in their Biafra agenda and I came to put that shit to an end. Esans did not mate with Igbo people. There are settler tribes like anioma and ekpon people in edo state today who carry Igbo names but that's Because they are Igbo! Gradually they are coming to grab esan land and annex themselves into our beautiful Benin history. Lai Lai God forbid please don't try it! There's a reason why they were absconded by the oba of Lagos and I hope the o a of Benin does the same before shit gets out of hand.
Ika and ekpon people please o no offence but you people are not Esans, you are merely settlers from Igbo land.
We Esans, Afemai, etsako etc are all bini people from the Benin empire.
Infact Yoruba's in ondo, ekiti and some parts of Lagos and ogun are also descendants of the empire. There is no Igbo in our history. Our god of thunder is esango not amadioha.
Any Igbo man you here trying to include edo in their Biafra thing, warn them not to. Edo's do not even belong to the south south. We are our own Midwest identity. Even the delta people we are not related to them all, only the itsekiri people. The rest of them were just slaves who's language evolved to something similar to ours. Nothing more.

If Nigeria is to split, we are either going as our own Midwest region or we'd join oduduwa. But not niger delta or Biafra. Every body is just trying to grab edo and her history even the ijaw people in edo who are now saying they're the traditional owners. Oloshi. All foreigners should just leave my state please. They should either submit to the language and culture or go. Lagos now yoruba is included in their assemblies. Meanwhile in edo I'm seeing so called esan people from so called "ekpon" ethnic group answering names like Nkechi and chinenye instead of omoye or omosede. Please you are not Esans. You are simply Igbo! Don't distort or try to force yourselves into our history.
Thanks

nengibo:
Have d land grabbers reached Esan

Yes they are plenty here. Okoro everywhere

pazienza:
In the colonial reports, some Esan communities admitted that they migrated from
Igboland.
And there are also Western Igbo communities with villages whose founders were of Esan origin.

Other than that, Esan is Esan and Igbo is Igbo.
I'm yet to see any Igbo person claim Esan people, the Esan language is not intelligible to the Igbo. The OP is an attention seeker.

https://www.nairaland.com/3463205/igbo-speaking-people-inter-relationship

There is no such thing as "Igbo community of esan origin". That is boulder dash. I've been noticing igbos trying to force themselves into our history to suit their Biafra agenda, it won't work and you people best be careful. If the oba of Benin sees all thes fallacies igbos are saying he will be greatly pissed.
We Esans acknowledge Igbo people have been migrating to our lands now especially since the Benin empire subjected a fair amount of them to slavery. That's as far as our relationship went. There are no credible evidences of Esans intertwining with igbos or whatever it is you're crying to claim.

I used to have a great respect for igbos but these days I do not because of the antics I've heard you guys spew about the edo tribe.

Igbo has no root whatsoever in edo state.

RedboneSmith:
What kind of attention-seeking is this? At what point in history, past and present, did Igbo people ever claim the Esan are Igbos?

Go and read your Biafra people posting that igbanke people in edo state are with them I'm basically saying those people are igbos and will vacate the state once Biafra is actualised.

Monkeydeychop:


Go and read your Biafra people posting that igbanke people in edo state are with them I'm basically saying those people are igbos and will vacate the state once Biafra is actualised.

One. I am not Biafran.

Two. Igbanke is not Esan.

If you made this post because Biafra people are claiming Igbanke (which is actually Ika), why is the post now talking about Esan as if Igbo people are claiming Esan?

Abagworo:


It's actually Yorubas that are the guilty ones going by personal experience. I have quite a lot of Esan friends and people always ask if they are Igbos. It is not only because of skin colour but because Esan people are hustlers to the core and most Nigerians reason it's Igbos that can do anything for money.

Money no get tribe ohhh

RedboneSmith:


One. I am not Biafran.

Two. Igbanke is not Esan.

If you made this post because Biafra people are claiming Igbanke (which is actually Ika), why is the post now talking about Esan as if Igbo people are claiming Esan?

Again go and read what your biafran brothers are saying that igbanke is Igbo blah blah they want to claim part of edo.

Simply tell the settlers in esan land who are ika and ekpon people to move out of the state.

I'm not a tribalist. Edo's can't come to anambra and say onitsha people are edo's and will their land is ours etc.

Monkeydeychop:


Again go and read what your biafran brothers are saying that igbanke is Igbo blah blah they want to claim part of edo.

Simply tell the settlers in esan land who are ika and ekpon people to move out of the state.

I'm not a tribalist. Edo's can't come to anambra and say onitsha people are edo's and will their land is ours etc.

I now know you've been arguing with IPOB miscreants on facebook. IPOB does not represent the view of Igbos but a PDP thing aimed at disrupting Buhari's government and attacking any Igbo that supports Buhari. Don't take them serious or value tgeir comments with regards to Igbo views.

@Monkeydeychop

Op really??
What do you mean now?

This guy here disagrees vehemently with you

Cire80:
Only ignorant Edos call us Igbo. The more knowledgeable ones know of our relationship. Go to Edo websites and Facebook groups/pages and other cultural Facebook pages where there are knowledgeable Edos and see how they proudly profess our brotherhood. Urhobos call us Igbo for political reasons. That's fact. They're still pained about many things and their grievances keep on increasing day by day. I've been with educated Edo and Urhobo friends and they're all aware of our brotherhood. And as for your suggestion, I think it's a good idea but that can only happen if you guys don't stop your desperation in trying to wipe off our history and culture with your propaganda machine. BTW one doesn't become Igbo because someone else thinks he's Igbo. You are what you are and you are what you believe you are.

Monkeydeychop:
There are igbos trying to include edo in their Biafra agenda and I came to put that shit to an end. Esans did not mate with Igbo people. There are settler tribes like anioma and ekpon people in edo state today who carry Igbo names but that's Because they are Igbo! Gradually they are coming to grab esan land and annex themselves into our beautiful Benin history. Lai Lai God forbid please don't try it! There's a reason why they were absconded by the oba of Lagos and I hope the o a of Benin does the same before shit gets out of hand.
Ika and ekpon people please o no offence but you people are not Esans, you are merely settlers from Igbo land.
We Esans, Afemai, etsako etc are all bini people from the Benin empire.
Infact Yoruba's in ondo, ekiti and some parts of Lagos and ogun are also descendants of the empire. There is no Igbo in our history. Our god of thunder is esango not amadioha.
Any Igbo man you here trying to include edo in their Biafra thing, warn them not to. Edo's do not even belong to the south south. We are our own Midwest identity. Even the delta people we are not related to them all, only the itsekiri people. The rest of them were just slaves who's language evolved to something similar to ours. Nothing more.

If Nigeria is to split, we are either going as our own Midwest region or we'd join oduduwa. But not niger delta or Biafra. Every body is just trying to grab edo and her history even the ijaw people in edo who are now saying they're the traditional owners. Oloshi. All foreigners should just leave my state please. They should either submit to the language and culture or go. Lagos now yoruba is included in their assemblies. Meanwhile in edo I'm seeing so called esan people from so called "ekpon" ethnic group answering names like Nkechi and chinenye instead of omoye or omosede. Please you are not Esans. You are simply Igbo! Don't distort or try to force yourselves into our history.
Thanks

@Monkeydeychop
You apparently do not know how awesome and powerful the Igbos are...
they are the only people in the world that can make you forget your language, origin and culture through trading...
some of your brothers and princes somehow got Igbonized through trading and forgot their Edo origins...
the Igbonization is what led them to start bearing names like Nkechi and Chinenye...
I can feel your pain, imagine an Edo king from Issele Ukwu bearing Nduka Ezeagwuna
You see why the Igbos are awesome and powerful, if not devious?

So Op sorry, because unfortunately for you....

Cire80:
unfortunately for you, my history and culture all scream Edo. The falsehood is coming from you guys. We in Anioma cherish our history and culture. The day you guys stop your concoctions, senseless postulations, propaganda and fake theorems is the you see more Aniomas being more comfortable around you guys. You guys are very desperate that's the problem.
Trade is just one of the way Anioma became Igbonized. We've treated this but the problem with you guys is that you're very selective.
And I'm not anti Igbo. I'm highly pro Ika/Anioma but that doesn't make me anti Igbo

Monkeydeychop:


Again go and read what your biafran brothers are saying that igbanke is Igbo blah blah they want to claim part of edo.

Simply tell the settlers in esan land who are ika and ekpon people to move out of the state.

I'm not a tribalist. Edo's can't come to anambra and say onitsha people are edo's and will their land is ours etc.

Op you sound ignorant of your own history, some of your princes were so much in love with Igbo goods,
that after buying whatever it was that they bought from the Igbos, they forgot they were Edo princes who just happened
to be trading with Igbos
Never mind that they have never had an Edo dialect from time immemorial
...it's due to the awesome power of Igbo trading!
Not to worry, if u dig deep enough and you are "honest", you will discover Ika/Anioma is only Igbo on the surface, but Edo within
Hear it from one of your long lost descendants of "Edo princes"

Cire80:
You have a psychological problem of trying to attach so much importance to the trashes you call comments. And you obviously lack compression.

Read my comment. I said most Ikas don't understand Edo but I understand Edo from my understanding of Ika language because I know the deep Ika. I never said anything about Academic research. Research must not be academic. I make my research from my experience, observations and interactions. and asking my elders questions. You make your own research mostly with online fabrications and concoctions. Ika is mostly Igbo on the surface, but try to scratch out the surface and it turns mostly Edo

Monkeydeychop:


Go and read your Biafra people posting that igbanke people in edo state are with them I'm basically saying those people are igbos and will vacate the state once Biafra is actualised.

Op some of your migrant Edo princes appear to have an identity crisis...
from telling you everything about them screams Edo, to telling how they are Edo internally but Igbo on the surface,
to claiming non-Edo, its tiring really
They even suspect any "Edo" website that does not recognize they are Igbo speaking descendants of Edo princes
Maybe you can help out and assist them in sorting out their history...do it as a service to those great Edo princes who lost it to Igbo traders

Hear this one...

Cire80:
And what makes you think Edo website represents Edo? What website is that? What makes you think Edo website can't lie? Website was written by an individual and do you know that the Benin Royalty has dispelled lots of the things Egharavba wrote in his book? Which shows it was just his opinion and not fact. Have I ever told you I'm Edo? And what about the other points I made? How did they add up with your fabrications you called fact?

PabloAfricanus:
@Monkeydeychop

Op really??
What do you mean now?

This guy here disagrees vehemently with you

But Pablo, why are you quoting me along that mad man? Does any of the things he wrote make sense? Even saying Itsekiri is more related to Edo than Urhobos and Isoko is the height of his stupidity. I've seen Benin people that said Esans are not real Edo and this one is here talking trash. Ika is more related to Edo than Itsekiri is. But the Urhobos and Isokos are the most related and this one is here talking trash

Cire80:
But Pablo, why are you quoting me along that mad man? Does any of the things he wrote make sense? Even saying Itsekiri is more related to Edo than Urhobos and Isoko is the height of his stupidity. I've seen Benin people that said Esans are not real Edo and this one is here talking trash. Ika is more related to Edo than Itsekiri is. But the Urhobos and Isokos are the most related and this one is here talking trash

Come on dude,
You can see how ignorant he is
Just imagine his confusion at seeing that Iselle Ukwu king in Edo royal attire and standing before the Oba,
he must have been feeling all warm and cozy at seeing such a warm, original display of Edo history,
only to read his name as Nduka Ezeagwuna
Dude would prolly be like WTF?
I was too, when some friends from Anioma sold me the Edo but Igbo speaking bit,
I too was like WTF
I dug in as an amateur historian and all I could see was...you guess what?
Don't worry, you can help cure his ignorance here.

PS:http://www.royaldiary.com.ng is not an Igbo site as you predictably thought. Its an Ika site
You could point him there to read the finer points of Edo history in Anioma.

PabloAfricanus:

Come on dude,
You can see how ignorant he is
Just imagine his confusion at seeing that Iselle Ukwu king in Edo royal attire and standing before the Oba,
he must have been feeling all warm and cozy at seeing such a warm, original display of Edo history,
only to read his name as Nduka Ezeagwuna
Dude would prolly be like WTF?
I was too, when some friends from Anioma sold me the Edo but Igbo speaking bit,
I too was like WTF
I dug in as an amateur historian and all I could see was...you guess what?
Don't worry, you can help cure his ignorance here.

PS:http://www.royaldiary.com.ng is not an Igbo site as you predictably thought. Its an Ika site
You could point him there to read the finer points of Edo history in Anioma.

you're a joke. What's up with that links you keep on pasting around?

Cire80:
you're a joke. What's up with that links you keep on pasting around?

Cmon dude where is your sense of humor now
I have been asking a very simple question all these while...
How did the Obi of Issele Ukwu came to bear the name Nduka Ezeagwuna?
And are the names of your kings overwhelmingly Igbo?
Mind you, I have no point to prove here and I'm also no claiming anything as you guys wrongly assume...
Take it that you are educating someone seeking for answers...
Just calmly explain to me, in light of all the history and story you and others have been telling about Ikas...
how and how not you are related to Binis and Igbos...
How did the Obi of Issele Ukwu came to bear the name Nduka Ezeagwuna?

PS: If you have not figured out that story about Igbonization and trading is a joke, I'd advise you should not bother replying me.

Good Lawd. Who has ever claimed Esan people are Igbo? Or some people just want attention?

I wish I can bring my edo scholars into this discussion to shut you igbos falsifying our history.
There is nothing like "Esans are not real edo's" that's like saying ife Yoruba's are not the same as Yorubas from oyo. You can go and read esan history and language. It's bini history as well. We are only seen as a tribe because we migrated further north due to the tyranny of the oba don't make me repeat myself.


Ikas are not real edo's and they know they are seen differently in edo state and that is because they simply are not edo's. esan, owan, Afemai, etsako, those are the real edo's. the rest like ijaw, anioma/ika people are NOT.

Itsekiri people are descendants of the bini empire cos their history states they descended from a Benin prince I think his name was Olua you can go and read it.

Delta people have no relation with us except through slavery you can go and read about yourself.

Don't falsify our history just because you have none. Igbos outnumber us in population and they're migrants that's why I fear what they're doing in esan land is operation take over. Anyone called Nkechi best not call herself Omo edo, she is Igbo!

Cire80:
But Pablo, why are you quoting me along that mad man? Does any of the things he wrote make sense? Even saying Itsekiri is more related to Edo than Urhobos and Isoko is the height of his stupidity. I've seen Benin people that said Esans are not real Edo and this one is here talking trash. Ika is more related to Edo than Itsekiri is. But the Urhobos and Isokos are the most related and this one is here talking trash

Any Benin person you hear saying Esans are not real edo's tell them to tell you where esan came from even though history shows they were Chiefs and doctors of the Benin empire? Olodo.

You are ika. You are Igbo and you know it. If you like speak edo language, it doesn't make you edo. You are still Igbo descendants. You people should go back to delta state.

See as igbos are invading my life....God help me. Nigeria should disintegrate quicker so I can work in the immigration department and eternally deny them visas.

Monkeydeychop:
I wish I can bring my edo scholars into this discussion to shut you igbos falsifying our history.
There is nothing like "Esans are not real edo's" that's like saying ife Yoruba's are not the same as Yorubas from oyo. You can go and read esan history and language. It's bini history as well. We are only seen as a tribe because we migrated further north due to the tyranny of the oba don't make me repeat myself.


Ikas are not real edo's and they know they are seen differently in edo state and that is because they simply are not edo's. esan, owan, Afemai, etsako, those are the real edo's. the rest like ijaw, anioma/ika people are NOT.

Itsekiri people are descendants of the bini empire cos their history states they descended from a Benin prince I think his name was Olua you can go and read it.

Delta people have no relation with us except through slavery you can go and read about yourself.

Don't falsify our history just because you have none. Igbos outnumber us in population and they're migrants that's why I fear what they're doing in esan land is operation take over. Anyone called Nkechi best not call herself Omo edo, she is Igbo!

Dude, please point out or show me where or which Igbo person claimed Esan people are Igbo? If you are sort of angry over Yorubas who confuse Esan with Igbos don't you think you should be educating them instead of pouring out all these hate on Igbos for nothing?