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Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by otemdomino: 12:07pm On Mar 04, 2017
REIIGN:


One question though...

What's the difference btw God Almighty and Yaweh? Since this your "god almighty" sits tight while his "son" pillage the earth. What has he done about catastrophes? How has he fought back the tyranny of his "sons"?
I will begin by letting you know few things.
First, God the Universe, the father of Allah, Yahweh, Moloch, Enlil, Atum, Moloch, Olorun, Esu and all the other thousands of gods(first beings created) has a particular nature. The nature of God the Universe is that it permits all things. He isn't emotional as humans. However, what the UNIVERSE(God Almighty) is concerned about is brain development. All the supposed tyranny of the evil gods(the children of God) didn't happen in our own period of existence. They happened in the past(periods of the hominids and Neanderthals). Now in our world, no God has power to influence this world, but the 'Words' which we ourselves wrote about them are the things oppressing us.
So we homo sapiens are to blame for writing the gods as if they still have power over our own world. Whatever supernatural powers they might have exhibited were done in the world of the homo erectuses and so on. So it is left for us to let go all the scary tales delivered to us through the books, because the ways the scribes portray the gods to us, that's not really how they are. They don't have easy access to our own world anymore, but the WORD(books) which they inspire some spiritual people among us to write is what is haunting this world.

IN THE BEGINNING OF OUR OWN WORLD ARE THE WORDS(compilations of the happenings of the past world). AND THE WORDS ARE WITH THE gods. AND THE WORDS ARE THE gods WE ARE SCARED OF.
it's a long story. Only the LIGHT OF GOD THE UNIVERSE CAN MAKE EVERYTHING PERSONALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by REIIGN(m): 12:43pm On Mar 04, 2017
otemdomino:

I will begin by letting you know few things.
First, God the Universe, the father of Allah, Yahweh, Moloch, Enlil, Atum, Moloch, Olorun, Esu and all the other thousands of gods(first beings created) has a particular nature. The nature of God the Universe is that it permits all things. He isn't emotional as humans. However, what the UNIVERSE(God Almighty) is concerned about is brain development. All the supposed tyranny of the evil gods(the children of God) didn't happen in our own period of existence. They happened in the past(periods of the hominids and Neanderthals). Now in our world, no God has power to influence this world, but the 'Words' which we ourselves wrote about them are the things oppressing us.
So we homo sapiens are to blame for writing the gods as if they still have power over our own world. Whatever supernatural powers they might have exhibited were done in the world of the homo erectuses and so on. So it is left for us to let go all the scary tales delivered to us through the books, because the ways the scribes portray the gods to us, that's not really how they are. They don't have easy access to our own world anymore, but the WORD(books) which they inspire some spiritual people among us to write is what is haunting this world.

IN THE BEGINNING OF OUR OWN WORLD ARE THE WORDS(compilations of the happenings of the past world). AND THE WORDS ARE WITH THE gods. AND THE WORDS ARE THE gods WE ARE SCARED OF.
it's a long story. Only the LIGHT OF GOD THE UNIVERSE CAN MAKE EVERYTHING PERSONALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.

So If I understand you correctly, you're saying:

*God Almighty (The Universe) permits all things.

*The tyranny of his sons have long been curbed.

*His sons have no power over us anymore

*The Holy books we read today were actually inspired by his sons (who no longer have power over us).

*These books are the reason mankind keeps leaping backward.

Right? Good.

So how does God Almighty plan on curbing the evil man perpetrates on this earth in this present time?
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by otemdomino: 12:59pm On Mar 04, 2017
REIIGN:


So If I understand you correctly, you're saying:

*God Almighty (The Universe) permits all things.

*The tyranny of his sons have long been curbed.

*His sons have no power over us anymore

*The Holy books we read today were actually inspired by his sons (who no longer have power over us).

*These books are the reason mankind keeps leaping backward.

Right? Good.

So how does God Almighty plan on curbing the evil man perpetrates on this earth in this present time?

The evils perpetrated by humans cannot be curbed. It is like saying that the hot core of the earth should be removed. If it happens, the earth will be destroyed. The evil perpetrated by humans are caused by humans and can be stopped by the humans themselves. That's why we have laws to check evil, yet the evil ones will not change, no matter how strict the laws are. Also, don't view God the Universe as one skybaba hanging in the air waiting for the judgement day. God is in us and he is us. Look inward, play your part to fight evil. Die fighting evil by doing good till death. When good deeds is 75% against evil 25% on earth, the good is winning the battle of life. We can get to that level by playing our own part. Life is in Words and Opposite and some will belong to the opposite side of it, no matter how you try persuading them.
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by REIIGN(m): 1:05pm On Mar 04, 2017
otemdomino:


The evils perpetrated by humans cannot be curbed. It is like saying that the hot core of the earth should be removed. If it happens, the earth will be destroyed. The evil perpetrated by humans are caused by humans and can be stopped by the humans themselves. That's why we have laws to check evil, yet the evil ones will not change, no matter how strict the laws are. Also, don't view God the Universe as one skybaba hanging in the air waiting for the judgement day. God is in us and he is us. Look inward, play your part to fight evil. Die fighting evil by doing good till death. When good deeds is 75% against evil 25% on earth, the good is winning the battle of life. We can get to that level by playing our own part. Life is in Words and Opposite and some will belong to the opposite side of it, no matter how you try persuading them.

You made some very strong points but I sincerely can't piece together the rationale behind creating something and not being able to protect it. Has God Almighty left us to our fate? If so, then why can't we cling to one of his "sons" who can fill in for where he (God Almighty) is lagging?
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by otemdomino: 1:07pm On Mar 04, 2017
felixomor:


Everyone knows u r the only expert at deceiving yourself.
None of you is deceiving himself. Randomperson actually fought himself out of being decieved, but the writer of the Bible have successfully deceived you. So once again, I say none of you is deceiving himself, but one of you is being deceived.

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Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by otemdomino: 1:17pm On Mar 04, 2017
REIIGN:


You made some very strong points but I sincerely can't piece together the rationale behind creating something and not being able to protect it. Has God Almighty left us to our fate? If so, then why can't we cling to one of his "sons" who can fill in for where he (God Almighty) is lagging?

There are lessons in life to help us know that the over-sweetness of everything is not also good. The over-swetness of sugar causes 'you-know-what'. The overcoolness of AC causes 'you-know-what'. Life would be boring without some things getting over our nerves. It isn't the best if all things just come at our becks and calls. Yes, where we came from is like that(so so peaceful and full of anything we want) and then many are asking for reincarnation to a life of fun and adventures and fear and mysteries. Now here we are, forgetting whom we are and what we are here to do. Then we are fed up again. And when we die so that we could return to that peaceful place where we came from, our colleagues view it as evil on the part of God the Universe again.

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Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by felixomor: 3:47pm On Mar 04, 2017
otemdomino:

None of you is deceiving himself. Randomperson actually fought himself out of being decieved, but the writer of the Bible have successfully deceived you. So once again, I say none of you is deceiving himself, but one if you is being deceived.

See the Belarusian fraud .....
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by Arielle: 7:35am On Mar 05, 2017
stuffsabouttara:
This has to be one of the funniest posts I've read all day. I still don't understand why God had to kill so much, I agree with the commenter that said he should have had a foresight of the future, the people that keep arguing he is God and so therefore should not be questioned blah blah blah only sound dumb to me, the one about we being joysticks is just plain hilarious I'm still rotfl. I don't understand religion, it comes with too many controversies and every time I ask questions, I keep getting the same looks like I need deliverance and the same "you shouldn't question everything" reply. I don't believe there is a God, but I don't carry it on my head either if he exists or not. I gave up on that long time ago and just settled for being an agnostic. I don't believe in Christians or Muslims or Atheists, I believe in good people and bad people and that sometimes, good people do bad things and bad people do good things.

Likewise. I have just recently given up. I'm not atheist because I do believe there is a supreme being or beings responsible for our being here. There is too much evidence in the make up of humans, animals even plants, that points to intelligence in their creation. I don't subscribe to the big bang theory. Sounds like a cop out to me. That said I believe this being or beings are very different from what organised religion would have us believe. I find it incredible to believe that in a world with people of such disparity in beliefs, traditions, habits, experiences, all worship must be the same. Christians act as though their faith is all by their doing and choice. The most fervent Christian on this board would have been the most fervent Muslim or Buddhist or whatever, if he had been born into that religion. Why are we now judged for something that is out of our control? And the argument for conversions to Christianity holds no water. If that were the case people would have been converting in droves. So in a religious country like Nigeria, with so much stealing and killing and hatred, one wonders if the perpetrators of all these evil are spirits. But with all the contradictions in organised religion, if you ask questions you are shot down and called names. Christianity itself has created so many atheists.

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Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by Arielle: 7:38am On Mar 05, 2017
However, I don't subscribe to insults. I think we should be respectful of others' beliefs whether or not we believe differently.
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by otemanuduno: 7:45am On Mar 05, 2017
felixomor:


See the Belarusian fraud .....
you are a clown walai. May the light of Almighty God reveal the truth about me to you. also stop lying.
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by felixomor: 7:47am On Mar 05, 2017
otemanuduno:
you are a clown walai. May the light of Almighty God reveal the truth about me to you. also stop lying.

Lol "walai"
grin clown
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by afemgbosey(m): 7:54am On Mar 05, 2017
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Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by Urbanoversabi(m): 2:58pm On Mar 05, 2017
Arielle:


Likewise. I have just recently given up. I'm not atheist because I do believe there is a supreme being or beings responsible for our being here. There is too much evidence in the make up of humans, animals even plants, that points to intelligence in their creation. I don't subscribe to the big bang theory. Sounds like a cop out to me. That said I believe this being or beings are very different from what organised religion would have us believe. I find it incredible to believe that in a world with people of such disparity in beliefs, traditions, habits, experiences, all worship must be the same. Christians act as though their faith is all by their doing and choice. The most fervent Christian on this board would have been the most fervent Muslim or Buddhist or whatever, if he had been born into that religion. Why are we now judged for something that is out of our control? And the argument for conversions to Christianity holds no water. If that were the case people would have been converting in droves. So in a religious country like Nigeria, with so much stealing and killing and hatred, one wonders if the perpetrators of all these evil are spirits. But with all the contradictions in organised religion, if you ask questions you are shot down and called names. Christianity itself has created so many atheists.


Okay, I stumbled on this somehow,I dislike coming to this section. I believe most people in Nigeria here or Africa as a whole, practice whatever they believe in, because they were born into it. Look, I'm a christian not because I was born into it, or because my Parents told me I have to believe in him. Personal Experience is what I'm hammering on.
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by Urbanoversabi(m): 3:14pm On Mar 05, 2017
REIIGN:


You made some very strong points but I sincerely can't piece together the rationale behind creating something and not being able to protect it. Has God Almighty left us to our fate? If so, then why can't we cling to one of his "sons" who can fill in for where he (God Almighty) is lagging?
We as humans are gods ourselves, if as gods, we don't have power to do whatever we want, why then are we gods? But we more often than not forget that when God created us, he also gave us the power of FREEWILL. How do you think, he allowed Lucifer go then? because of the existence of FREEWILL. So, its left to you to choose which way you seem right.
Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by oaroloye(m): 10:26pm On Apr 09, 2017
SHALOM!

obinna58:

Amazing God indeed grin let's take a look at some of his powerful mysterious works in the bible.

This is easily the stupidest post in the History of The Internet!

Why is that?

Even because THE BIBLE BEGINS with ONE VERSE that TOTALLY RUBBISHES your EVERY Cause against God!

[color=#990000][u]GENESIS 1:1.[/u

IN The Beginning, God created The Heaven and The Earth.

CASE: CLOSED!

GOD IS OUR ENTIRE REASON FOR EXISTENCE!..

He created us, and FEEDS US LIFE EVERY MOMENT of EVERY DAY.

This means that HE and HE ALONE has the RIGHT to tell us what is Right and what is Wrong.

WE do not tell HIM.

He knows what He is Doing, and what He is Talking about.

Can you say the same?

1. God drowns the whole earth.
In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.

The family that were SELECTED to survive the Great Flood did so, because THEIR HEAD PLEASED GOD.

These eight are our Ancestors.

The "people" who died had REJECTED GOD, presuming that HE could DO NOTHING about it.

They worshipped DEVILS, and would have killed our Ancestors, if they had the chance.

They were as grateful to God for giving them life as you are.

2. God kills half a million people.
In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.

They were not killed for being good people.

3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn.
In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.

Atheists NEVER mention that the Egyptians MURDERED ISRAELITE INFANT MALES for being "too numerous."

4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them.
In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.

These were people who were ALL PRESENT when GOD MANIFESTED IN PERSON to DICTATE HIS LAW- and these people RAN AWAY.

This was just after they REFUSED to go on to THE PROMISED LAND, but rather RETURN TO EGYPT- after everything Gi

5. Genocide after genocide after genocide.
In Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. In Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier.

6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity.
In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant. (Newer cosmetic translations count only 70 deaths, but their text notes admit that the best and earliest manuscripts put the number at 50,070.)

7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god.
In Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him: “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died.

8. The Amorites destroyed by sword and by God’s rocks.
In Joshua 10:10-11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky.

9. God burns two cities to death.
In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home.

10. God has 42 children mauled by bears.
In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. (Newer cosmetic translations say the bears “maul” the children, but the original Hebrew, baqa, means “to tear apart.”)

11. A tribe slaughtered and their virgins raped for not showing up at roll call.
In Judges 21:a tribe of Israelites misses roll call, so the other Israelites kill them all except for the virgins, which they take for themselves. Still not happy, they hide in vineyards and pounce on dancing women from Shiloh to take them for themselves.

12. 3,000 crushed to death.
In Judges 16:27-30, God gives Samson strength to bring down a building to crush 3,000 members of a rival tribe.

13. A concubine raped and dismembered.
In Judges 19:22-29, a mob demands to rape a godly master’s guest. The master offers his daughter and a concubine to them instead. They take the concubine and gang-rape her all night. The master finds her on his doorstep in the morning, cuts her into 12 pieces, and ships the pieces around the country.

14. Child sacrifice.
In Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as a sacrificial offering for God’s favor in killing the Ammonites.

15. God helps Samson kill 30 men because he lost a bet.
In Judges 14:11-19, Samson loses a bet for 30 sets of clothes. The spirit of God comes upon him and he kills 30 men to steal their clothes and pay off the debt.

16. God demands you kill your wife and children for worshiping other gods.
In Deuteronomy 13:6-10, God commands that you must kill your wife, children, brother, and friend if they worship other gods.

17. God incinerates 51 men to make a point.
In 2 Kings 1:9-10, Elijah gets God to burn 51 men with fire from heaven to prove he is God.

18. God kills a man for not impregnating his brother’s widow.
In Genesis 38:9-10, God kills a man for refusing to impregnate his brother’s widow.

19. God threatens forced cannibalism.
In Leviticus 26:27-29 and Jeremiah 19:9, God threatens to punish the Israelites by making them eat their own children.

20. The coming slaughter.
According to Revelation 9:7-19, God’s got more evil coming. God will make horse-like locusts with human heads and scorpion tails, who torture people for 5 months. Then some angels will kill a third of the earth’s population. If he came today, that would be 2 billion people.

Re: Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed In Bible by oaroloye(m): 11:02pm On Apr 09, 2017
SHALOM!

obinna58:

Amazing God indeed grin let's take a look at some of his powerful mysterious works in the bible.

This is easily the stupidest post in the History of The Internet!

Why is that?

Even because THE BIBLE BEGINS with ONE VERSE that TOTALLY RUBBISHES your EVERY Cause against God!

[color=#990000][u]GENESIS 1:1.[/u

IN The Beginning, God created The Heaven and The Earth.

CASE: CLOSED!

GOD IS OUR ENTIRE REASON FOR EXISTENCE!..

He created us, and FEEDS US LIFE EVERY MOMENT of EVERY DAY.

This means that HE and HE ALONE has the RIGHT to tell us what is Right and what is Wrong.

WE do not tell HIM.

He knows what He is Doing, and what He is Talking about.

Can you say the same?

1. God drowns the whole earth.
In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.

The family that were SELECTED to survive the Great Flood did so, because THEIR HEAD PLEASED GOD.

These eight are our Ancestors.

The "people" who died had REJECTED GOD, presuming that HE could DO NOTHING about it.

They worshipped DEVILS, and would have killed our Ancestors, if they had the chance.

They were as grateful to God for giving them life as you are.

2. God kills half a million people.
In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.

They were not killed for being good people.

3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn.
In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.

Atheists NEVER mention that the Egyptians MURDERED ISRAELITE INFANT MALES for being "too numerous."

4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them.
In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.

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