progress69:


Mr holier than thou.

When u want to fu*k. Ask ur GF can i touch ur clit, can i touch ur boobs ....

Clowns....!

Consent doesn't have to involve asking directly. Body language is the major way of decoding sexual consent.

If Kemen had held T-boss close to his body in bed and she snuggled up to him...... he stroked her hair and she relaxed in his arms....... she turns and faces him still close to his chest.......he kisses her and she kisses back....he touches her and she holds him tight......yes, he can proceed and he won't currently be in trouble.

But instead, he woke up, looked around and tried to do somthings to a girl that he wasn't aware if she was asleep or not.

Man, that's classless and perverted, do you just try to finger a sleeping girl immediately........ or you try to subtly wake her up and get her to relax with you before making a move on her?

If you do the former, its classified as perversion.

Abi girl no fit sleep your side at all again, forever make you no throw pr1ck to am

Your head correct ... you understood the point in this issue.

1bkaye:
It isn't about 'morality', it's about the fact that he touched someone whilst she was sleeping, without her C.O.N.S.E.N.T (permission for something to happen or agreement to do something - definition added because I know a lot of you Nigerian men sometimes find this particular word difficult to grasp) plus he's had a history on the show of saying rapey things which he's already been warned about, this was the last straw and he was rightfully disqualified

Mehn I rili don't knw wah d world s turning into fa,d guy looked at d camera b4 doin d disgusting act,wat s rug is wrong don't spice d act,d guy has been warned twice,infact bigi had to call him in d orda day he was talking abt sex n rubbish,mayb dey don't rili undastand dat wah has been happening both parties concur to d act,he wasn't disqualified cus of d act,he was disqualified cus d act wasn't consensual

He must sue dat stupid big brother for sure

ba7man:
Consent doesn't have to involve asking directly. Body language is the major way of decoding sexual consent.

If Kemen had held T-boss close to his body in bed and she snuggled up to him...... he stroked her hair and she relaxed in his arms....... she turns and faces him still close to his chest.......he kisses her and she kisses back....he touches her and she holds him tight......yes, he can proceed and he won't currently be in trouble.

But instead, he woke up, looked around and tried to do somthings to a girl that he wasn't aware if she was asleep or not.

Man, that's classless and perverted, do you just try to finger a sleeping girl immediately........ or you try to subtly wake her up and get her to relax with you before making a move on her?

If you do the former, its classified as perversion.

Abi girl no fit sleep your side at all again, forever make you no throw pr1ck to am

Bros wah kinda drink do u take lemmi orda for u,atleast we ave got a mature response hia

progress69:


Run along..go meet ur play mates. Men are talking!

Dude you can not force your jaundiced opinion on people here. Kemen did wrong n will only end up in jail if he tries to sue BBNaija. As someone who does not dig TBoss we personally might have exploited/violated friends around us but that those not justify what Kemen did. What is wrong is wrong. Concerning ruining is career the dude is a shameless clown that needs to learn how to control his urge.

orizon:

Bros wah kinda drink do u take lemmi orda for u,atleast we ave got a mature response hia

I drink Henessey ooo.......but I fit manage Plastic bottle Origin sha.

A lot of these peeps think "Consent" must involve asking the girl for permission to touch her. Even if a girl wants you to, she'll most likely say no.

But hold her waist and wait for her reaction, whisper in her ears, peck her cheeks, kiss her neck.......and her reaction is the "Yes" or "No" you need to know.

I suspect these Kemen fans just wake up at night a dip their hands straight away into a girl's pant immediately.

Classless bunch.

pressplay411:
The answer is simple. Big Brother lacks the moral obligation to disqualify Kemen over his situation with Tboss when worse has been condoned.

The show itself reeks of immorality, period.
Several acts of immorality; sexual and non sexual have been perpetrated by contestants and condoned by the organisers of the show since it's inception. But what makes this special? Yes, ladies we agree it was a sensitive and delicate issue and in fact inexcusable, but were you expecting morality from an immoral show?

Where were you when Debby Rise violated Bassey? Or it doesn't count when a man is the victim?
Or where was BigBrother when married TTT was being serviced by Bisola? Why didn't BigBrother (the informant) inform her of his marital status? Maybe that just wasn't immoral enough.

Perhaps the most hypocritical part on Big brother would have to be in 2007, remember the fingergate scandal between Richard and Ofunekka? How convenient that BigBrother even rewarded the culprit with the prize of the competition. But now disqualify Kemen for a less grievous act?

In conclusion, BigBrotherNigeria is not a realityshow that prides itself over it's moral standards, so to escalate this Kemen-Tboss situation to the level of disqualification was just plain hypocritical. Especially considering that TBoss didn't even lodge a complaint, rather BigBrother blew the whole situation out of proportion.

Kemen would henceforth be stigmatized and become victimized as a sex offender which would damage his relationship and business. He should and must sue for damages and in fact defamation of character.

So let me get what you are saying....if you go to a brothel...and ends up raping one of the se.x sellers, the law should not take its cause because the brothel it's self is a house of immorality? I don't think your head is there on this case.

Kemen is a sex offender...as far as the case is concern. You don't finger a woman''s pusszy or boobby who is under the influence and sleeping without her permission. He did that in the glare of the cameras meaning that should a girl visits him at home,he can rape her if she say no since no camera or body is there.

ba7man:
Consent doesn't have to involve asking directly. Body language is also a way of decoding consent.

If Kemen had held T-boss close to his body in bed and she snuggled up to him...... he stroked her hair and she relaxed in his arms....... she turns and faces him still close to his chest.......he kisses her and she kisses back....he touches her and she holds him tight......yes, he can proceed and he won't currently be in trouble.

But instead, he woke up, looked around and tried to do somthings to a girl that he wasn't aware if she was asleep or not.

Man, that's classless and perverted, do you just try to finger a sleeping girl immediately........ or you try to subtly wake her up and get her to relax with you before making a move on her?

If you do the former, its classified as perversion.

I wonder if u all have Infrared eyes u all used to see the "fingering"

Even the "victim" said it appeared to be. I wonder when Tboss drank so much that she wouldn't notice "fingering" at all. She was still playing with the guy in the morning before BB buhaha. Then she tried to whip up sentiments by claiming what will her father have been thinking and i keep wondering what her father was also thinking when she was displaying "live" breasts. The white witch is a slimy manipulative person. Until i see a video of Kemem forcing himself on her....cos all i saw is Tboss turning her back on him...that is too mild if a babe actually felt harrashed. If she had told him to get out of her bed, or told hin down in clear terms and he still forced himsef, its a different thing entirely. They have groped in bed before and have actually collected a massage from the same guy before. All these gross exergerations and twisting of narrative is just hypocritical.

ayokellany:


Dude you can not force your jaundiced opinion on people here. Kemen did wrong n will only end up in jail if he tries to sue BBNaija. As someone who does not dig TBoss we personally might have exploited/violated friends around us but that those not justify what Kemen did. What is wrong is wrong. Concerning ruining is career the dude is a shameless clown that needs to learn how to control his urge.

Dude... I don't care how u guys twist the narrative. And i don't have to get in line with ur wacked opinion. U say urs, i say mine!

Bigbrother allows married TTT to sleep with Bisola, and yet disqualifies Kemeb for immorality. #Double_standards

Kemen'z case was quite different bcoz TBoss didn't consent to it. If only itz was done mutually as in d case of Bisola & TTT & several others, disqualification wouldn't had come in. So before we come here come begin write article, mak we analz matter wel-wel!

Kemen don mess up jare big time!!

ba7man:
Consent doesn't have to involve asking directly. Body language is the major way of decoding sexual consent.

If Kemen had held T-boss close to his body in bed and she snuggled up to him...... he stroked her hair and she relaxed in his arms....... she turns and faces him still close to his chest.......he kisses her and she kisses back....he touches her and she holds him tight......yes, he can proceed and he won't currently be in trouble.

But instead, he woke up, looked around and tried to do somthings to a girl that he wasn't aware if she was asleep or not.

Man, that's classless and perverted, do you just try to finger a sleeping girl immediately........ or you try to subtly wake her up and get her to relax with you before making a move on her?

If you do the former, its classified as perversion.

Abi girl no fit sleep your side at all again, forever make you no throw pr1ck to am

Baba whats your poison?

Let me buy you 24 bottles for 365 days for this post

alt3r3g0:

I think the word you are missing here is consent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

Did Bassey consent to Debbie rise kissing him in his sleep?

Op, Op, Op. how many times did I called you? hmm.
Its obvious to me that your post is to advice Kemen to Sue BBNaija, instead of praying he should not be sued for sexual harassment.
all the example you sited in your post like the Case of Bassy / Debie-Rise, TTT / Bisola and the rest happenings, are knowingly to both parties. While in the case of Kemen & Tboss, its the contact or behavior that occurs was without the explicit consent of Tboss.
the fact is this Program has never promoted moral behavior, but the behavior from Kemen cannot be condole by biggie, as it is a sexual harassment. Instead of advising him to sue Biggie, pls kindly be praying for him not to charged (Sued) for 'Sexual Assault', you know what that means...

Shoot, Kemen bleeped up...

Helloworld8:
did Bisola complain Or did Bassey complain? Were there asleep.. Or Are you telling me since we live in corrupt world stealing, prostitution, killing, raping shld be Legalize? Cuz you say what did u expect from a corrupt show.. I showed u green light dnt mean u shld take advantage of me..

Neither did Tboss complain, but bigbrother blew it out of proportion. Why didn't big brother ask if Bassey was okay with Debbie rise kissing him while asleep? Yet, it slid like a normal thing

progress69:


I wonder if u all have Infrared eyes u all used to see the "fingering"

Even the "victim" said it appeared to be. I wonder when Tboss drank so much that she wouldn't notice "fingering" at all. She was still playing with the guy in the morning before BB buhaha. Then she tried to whip up sentiments by claiming what will her father have been thinking and i keep wondering what her father was also thinking when she was displaying "live" breasts. The white witch is a slimy manipulative person. Until i see a video of Kemem forcing himself on her....cos all i saw is Tboss turning her back on him...that is too mild if a babe actually felt harrashed. If she had told him to get out of her bed, or told hin down in clear terms and he still forced himsef, its a different thing entirely. They have groped in bed before and have actually collected a massage from the same guy before. All these gross exergerations and twisting of narrative is just hypocritical.

(1) T-boss displayed live boobs to all the housemates, why haven't the males all try to finger her in bed while sleeping.

(2) She turned her back on him as a way of rejecting his moves, simple. Not every girl will react by reprimanding him or causing a scene, some will freeze, some cry. They have differnt reactions, some will leave the bed if they can't take it.

(3) She was playing with him in the morning because she had no full idea how Kemen tried to take advantage of her at night. That creepy way he looked to see the coast was clear is enough to scare any girl.

(4) So because a male maesseuse(help me correct the spelling if wrong) does a topless massage to a female client in a Lekki spa makes it right for him to make a move on her?

(5) Kemen is always the person trying to grope T-boss, she has never encouraged it.

ba7man:
(1) T-boss displayed live boobs to all the housemates, why haven't the males all try to finger her in bed while sleeping.

(2) She turned her back on him as a way of rejecting his moves, simple. Not every girl will react by reprimanding him or causing a scene, some will freeze, some cry. They have differnt reactions, some will leave the bed if they can't take it.

(3) She was playing with him in the morning because she had no full idea how Kemen tried to take advantage of her at night. That creepy way he looked to see the coast was clear is enough to scare any girl.

(4) So because a male maesseuse(help me correct the spelling if wrong) does a topless massage to a female client in a Lekki spa makes it right for him to make a move on her?

(5) Kemen is always the person trying to grope T-boss, she has never encouraged it.

Exactly...Y'all live in Tboss head.

Mtcheeew!

Assumptions upon assumptions!!!!!

@ OP,

This case won't even stand in any court.

Kemen should simply let the sleeping dog lie.

Get a good PR to wash his image with Ariel.

In about a month or 2 nobody will remember that ugly incident.

Hustle to find money to open a good business (ie if he doesn't have a good job or business) and continue with his life.

mctowel01:
Bigbrother allows married TTT to sleep with Bisola, and yet disqualifies Kemeb for immorality. #Double_standards

The 2 situations aren't the same.

pressplay411:


You place too much responsibility on a man.
Was he not drunk as well?
Do you care if he was in his right senses?

Rape is an extreme word for what transpired between them... pls.
That's an insult to actual rape victims.

You obviously do not have an idea what the definition of rape is. Any sort of Penetration without consent into another persons genitals or even anus is considered rape. If it can be proven that kenem fingered Tboss without her consent, that is rape.

midehi2:
gbam! I concur becos they are all corrupt in the house

the kemen issue is not about the corruption in the house(which he has always been part of ), it's about the word "consent". I don't know why you guys are not getting this. The guy should have controlled his urge , and not being a loose cannon. Was he not aware there were cameras?

progress69:


Exactly...Y'all live in Tboss head.

Mtcheeew!

And you live in Kemen's head.

Dude had it coming, he had been warned, fans of the show had been complaining about him and his rape tendencies, he's made rape related statements........there are lots of people that saw it coming.

massinola:

You guys are just too impossible. Go back to Debie Rise vs Bassey video, you will find out Bassey was fast asleep. Debie has tried several times to get intimate with Bassey even during parties but Bassey has always resisted her. She did it while Bassey was asleep. The question still remains, does it mean the invisible BigB didn't see that? Why did he not call Bassey to ask if he consented to that? Many unanswered questions. You are telling me you can be fingered without waking up? Haba! Na wood you be? The whole bigbrother thing is turning as if stage managed

My brother, this thing also pisses me off so bad. Not for any reason, but cos Kemen is also a guyman like us. I hate to see a fellow guy publicly ridiculed unnecessarily, cos of a woman. The most painful part is if the Bigbrothet organizers are men, they ve lost all respect if they are cos they ve shown that they are pure sissies and woman wrappers who are just stupidly trying to please women. Tell me, its not like Kemen was forcing himself on her, with clear signs she wasn't okay with it. Which guy signs agreement before touching a lady?? Bigbrother should rather creating a rule preventing housemates from sleeping on the same bed, or they are just deceiving themselves. I will understand if the organizers are women, but if men, *spits*

pressplay411:
The answer is simple. Big Brother lacks the moral obligation to disqualify Kemen over his situation with Tboss when worse has been condoned.

The show itself reeks of immorality, period.
Several acts of immorality; sexual and non sexual have been perpetrated by contestants and condoned by the organisers of the show since it's inception. But what makes this special? Yes, ladies we agree it was a sensitive and delicate issue and in fact inexcusable, but were you expecting morality from an immoral show?

Where were you when Debby Rise violated Bassey? Or it doesn't count when a man is the victim?
Or where was BigBrother when married TTT was being serviced by Bisola? Why didn't BigBrother (the informant) inform her of his marital status? Maybe that just wasn't immoral enough.

Perhaps the most hypocritical part on Big brother would have to be in 2007, remember the fingergate scandal between Richard and Ofunekka? How convenient that BigBrother even rewarded the culprit with the prize of the competition. But now disqualify Kemen for a less grievous act?

In conclusion, BigBrotherNigeria is not a realityshow that prides itself over it's moral standards, so to escalate this Kemen-Tboss situation to the level of disqualification was just plain hypocritical. Especially considering that TBoss didn't even lodge a complaint, rather BigBrother blew the whole situation out of proportion.

Kemen would henceforth be stigmatized and become victimized as a sex offender which would damage his relationship and business. He should and must sue for damages and in fact defamation of character.

Consent is missing in all your​ grammar. A woman can get nude in front of you doesn't mean oya come. If she gives consent fine, if not just good ya preek and pray she gives you go ahead.

Na people like una dey like to rape.

teamsynergy:
if I memba well, bb organizers apologies for the Richard saga back den...mind u, there is a strict rule u av to read and sign before u r allowed into the bbn house... am sure he read it and he was warned more than once on this same issue..... flirting with a married man is not a crime and not the same as sexual harassment.other instance f op cited r just off points ... kemen is gonna lose any legal battle here.. he goofed big tym.... from d way the nigro looked at the camera sef, u wud av seen DAT he was upto no gud....

Interesting, flirting with a married man is not morally wrong?

mctowel01:

My brother, this thing also pisses me off so bad. Not for any reason, but cos Kemen is also a guyman like us. I hate to see a fellow guy publicly ridiculed unnecessarily, cos of a woman. The most painful part is if the Bigbrothet organizers are men, they ve lost all respect if they are cos they ve shown that they are pure sissies and woman wrappers who are just stupidly trying to please women. Tell me, its not like Kemen was forcing himself on her, with clear signs she wasn't okay with it. Which guy signs agreement before touching a lady?? Bigbrother should rather creating a rule preventing housemates from sleeping on the same bed, or they are just deceiving themselves. I will understand if the organizers are women, but if men, *spits*

Why do you think women are refered to as the "Weaker sex"?

Emotionally and physically, they're weaker so they can't be judged by the male yardstick.

[quote author=Built2last post=54340724]I agree.

Kemen has to sue. Tboss is a grown adult and she should have gone to report immediately after waking up the next morning.

She should have displayed her displeasure by standing up from That bed. Whose bed was that even?

You kept grown adults in a place ..allow them sleep on same bed in cold south Africa...and expect them to masturbate. Why didn't you make the rules that no bed sharing for opposite seX.

Payporte or oweport or whatever they called themselves lacks moral stands to expel Kemen on that basis.

He should head to court. He has to shake them atleast and redeem his name.


But whoever woman no kill for this life. E go reach gate of heaven at least.

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what brand have you got your self drunk with?
Hmmm.
Read the first two paragraphs of your comment and report yourself to the OP, asking to inspect it... Lemme go for my tea jor.

ba7man:
And you live in Kemen's head.

Dude had it coming, he had been warned, fans of the show had been complaining about him and his rape tendencies, he's made rape related statements........there are lots of people that saw it coming.

No i don't live in Kemen's head.

But all the assumptions and narrative, and the infrared eyes u all have is appalling.

ChimuchiYola:


your comment is biased...

How is it biased? my dear,what is wrong is WRONG.touching someone without their consent is violation of their body and space .we should for the sake of commenting sell our conscience honey .let's come together and speak against it .it is pure evil!

Built2last:
I agree.

Kemen has to sue. Tboss is a grown adult and she should have gone to report immediately after waking up the next morning.

She should have displayed her displeasure by standing up from That bed. Whose bed was that even?

You kept grown adults in a place ..allow them sleep on same bed in cold south Africa...and expect them to masturbate. Why didn't you make the rules that no bed sharing for opposite seX.

Payporte or oweport or whatever they called themselves lacks moral stands to expel Kemen on that basis.

He should head to court. He has to shake them atleast and redeem his name.


But whoever woman no kill for this life. E go reach gate of heaven at least.

You people are so perverted. That you sleep on the same bed with a female is not a license to rape her. If you lack self control over your sexual urges then avoid going near women.
Immediate reportage of rape is not a condition for proving rape. The proof is establishing that there was actual penetration without the consent of the other party.
Mind you sleeping with a child is considered rape, even if the child consented and did not report. A child cannot consent to anything.