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ba7man:
The 2 situations aren't the same.

Stop deceiving yourself there. If Bassey is seeing whats going on outside of the house, He will be aware that he is an assault claim away from testing the so called moral grounds of bigbrother. Infact, Tboss didn't report, biggie has already done investigation. Will they disqualify Bassey if he says he felt assaulted withe kiss? Why are there too many hypocrites here?

pressplay411:
The answer is simple. Big Brother lacks the moral obligation to disqualify Kemen over his situation with Tboss when worse has been condoned.

The show itself reeks of immorality, period.
Several acts of immorality; sexual and non sexual have been perpetrated by contestants and condoned by the organisers of the show since it's inception. But what makes this special? Yes, ladies we agree it was a sensitive and delicate issue and in fact inexcusable, but were you expecting morality from an immoral show?

Where were you when Debby Rise violated Bassey? Or it doesn't count when a man is the victim?
Or where was BigBrother when married TTT was being serviced by Bisola? Why didn't BigBrother (the informant) inform her of his marital status? Maybe that just wasn't immoral enough.

Perhaps the most hypocritical part on Big brother would have to be in 2007, remember the fingergate scandal between Richard and Ofunekka? How convenient that BigBrother even rewarded the culprit with the prize of the competition. But now disqualify Kemen for a less grievous act?

In conclusion, BigBrotherNigeria is not a realityshow that prides itself over it's moral standards, so to escalate this Kemen-Tboss situation to the level of disqualification was just plain hypocritical. Especially considering that TBoss didn't even lodge a complaint, rather BigBrother blew the whole situation out of proportion.

Kemen would henceforth be stigmatized and become victimized as a sex offender which would damage his relationship and business. He should and must sue for damages and in fact defamation of character.

I concur. It is not a rape case. It was just a move. Everyone has been making moves in that house. I feel for Kemen.

pressplay411:
The answer is simple. Big Brother lacks the moral obligation to disqualify Kemen over his situation with Tboss when worse has been condoned.

The show itself reeks of immorality, period.
Several acts of immorality; sexual and non sexual have been perpetrated by contestants and condoned by the organisers of the show since it's inception. But what makes this special? Yes, ladies we agree it was a sensitive and delicate issue and in fact inexcusable, but were you expecting morality from an immoral show?

Where were you when Debby Rise violated Bassey? Or it doesn't count when a man is the victim?
Or where was BigBrother when married TTT was being serviced by Bisola? Why didn't BigBrother (the informant) inform her of his marital status? Maybe that just wasn't immoral enough.

Perhaps the most hypocritical part on Big brother would have to be in 2007, remember the fingergate scandal between Richard and Ofunekka? How convenient that BigBrother even rewarded the culprit with the prize of the competition. But now disqualify Kemen for a less grievous act?

In conclusion, BigBrotherNigeria is not a realityshow that prides itself over it's moral standards, so to escalate this Kemen-Tboss situation to the level of disqualification was just plain hypocritical. Especially considering that TBoss didn't even lodge a complaint, rather BigBrother blew the whole situation out of proportion.

Kemen would henceforth be stigmatized and become victimized as a sex offender which would damage his relationship and business. He should and must sue for damages and in fact defamation of character.

Op, get sense now.. . Are we talkin about whether the show is immoral or not? It is a matter of consent! And she clearly didnt consent to anything!. ..it wouldd have been different if they have been all cozy before that fated day. But all viewers know for a fact that tboss isnt into kemen, i dnt tink dey av even kissed before!
Stop trying to portion blames to anyone but the offender pls... Hes to blame for his actions, he was disqualified for it. Simple.

mctowel01:
Interesting, flirting with a married man is not morally wrong?

Flirting with a married man is morally wrong ( in most societies) not legally wrong, but rape is both morally and legally wrong is all societies.

schumastic:
bro just one ? i want to ask u.

imagine u crushing on a girl n u made your intentions known to her n she said no u are not her kind of man n she can't v anything to do with u n u accept..
few days latr u both got high n everybody went to bed, only for u to leave ur own bed downstairs to hers, after which u start pressing her boobs n then put your hand to her v n she wakes up, see that is u n turned around n continued her sleep.

this is my ?

her turning around isn't it enough sign that she is not interested if yes have u molested her?
pls i would like u to answer da ? without being biased.thank u

o, before i forget have u asked yourself this ? why didn't kemen continued the pre-intimacy after she turned around, bcus he knew very well she didn't want him n to avoid any embarrassment from her @ da moment he left her alone.

And since her turning around indicated no interest, did Kemen continue or not? No he didn't, and continuing after getting clear signs is where there is a clear indication of rape

mctowel01:
Stop deceiving yourself there. If Bassey is seeing whats going on outside of the house, He will be aware that he is an assault claim away from testing the so called moral grounds of bigbrother. Infact, Tboss didn't report, biggie has already done investigation. Will they disqualify Bassey if he says he felt assaulted withe kiss? Why are there too many hypocrites here?

Get realistic here.

If you saw Debbie-rise forcing herself on Bassey and at the same time, saw Kemen forcing himself on T-boss, who do you think people will rush to help?

They'lll even laugh at Bassey sef.

The 2 situations will never be the same.

Toks2008:
My point exactly....

How can you evict someone simply because he is maintaining the status quo the satanic Programe is known for.

Useless TV show from the pits of hell *Spits on BBrother show*

Question for you: should a man who raped a woman in a brothel be prosecuted for rape since he is only maintaining the brothel's status quo for sex?

progress69:
U guys can twist the narrative all u want to suit your disgusting hate for the guy.
Tboss was not and never drunk.....
If u have little experience... Whatever happened that night was a normal thing. I observed most of u are kids or adults that have never done women...or that are too scared of women. I.mean na today woman dey carry hand comot body...when the thing Dey seeet am? Yeah..she can turn her back if not interested or too tired...what i want to see is a video if the accused forcing himself....and the "VICTIM" fighting back. When did Tboss drink and got so drunk she didn't realise anything? Less i forget, that was not the first time of both groping in bed, and she once allowed a massage. So wtf are u talking about?

Azn, its okay if I see women defending the decision, but I think any man condemning Kemen(not like he is totally innocent) is a classic case of woman wrapoerism and hypocrisy. Na guys like that dey always dey friendzone, brothezone, familyzone

ndidibabe:
I concur. It is not a rape case. It was just a move. Everyone has been making moves in that house. I feel for Kemen.

mctowel01:
And since her turning around indicated no interest, did Kemen continue or not? No he didn't, and continuing after getting clear signs is where there is a clear indication of rape

If it can be proven than kenen penetrated TBoss's vagina with his fingers at anytime during the episode, that is RAPE.

KAYD007:
Question for you: should a man who raped a woman in a brothel be prosecuted?

The answer is YES. Dont start silly arguements abeg. A brothel is not a red room. It is an establishment where customers pay for services.. .tho sexual in nature, but services all the same. And still the prostitute must give her consent!
No just bring that leg abeg.. .

martineverest:
kid calling himself a man.....pray for wife or daughter doesn't face such

Stupid, very stupid post.... Why will his wife or daughter be sleeping on the sane bed with another man, why will they be allowing a massage unclad, why will they be allowing a shower from a guy unclad. Bigbrother has no moral grounds for Kemen's disqualification. simple

ba7man:
Get realistic here.

If you saw Debbie-rise forcing herself on Bassey and at the same time, saw Kemen forcing himself on T-boss, who do you think people will rush to help?

They'lll even laugh at Bassey sef.

The 2 situations will never be the same.

Thats cos its different for guys... We dont even see sexual harassment in the same way as women. Plus if it ever came to that, i am very sure bassey would not make a big deal of it.
Now if tboss had actually no problems with what was done to her, im sure kemen would still be in the house.. .but she didnt.
Keyword : CONSENT

pressplay411:
Fact is, the act was wrong but the disqualification was even "wronger"

nd two wrong doesn't make a right

mctowel01:
And since her turning around indicated no interest, did Kemen continue or not? No he didn't, and continuing after getting clear signs is where there is a clear indication of rape

You have a point there.. .the clips i watched only showed where she turned dont know if he continued or not

Right. if i were kemen, i will sue big brother big time. Either way he has nothing to lose. it is big brother that will be scared the brand is about to be damaged so they will settle out of court big time. He doesn't need to emphasize the act. He only need the court to answer some questions.. 1) wether it is right for big brother to put adult men and women in same room without any form of privacy in violation of WHO rules for housing which must accommodate only TWO CONSENTING adults. 2) wether it is right to stock the house with unlimited alcohol knowing fully well they will be tipsy thereby tempting them to misbehave?
3) That he was psychologically tortured and endured the indecent sight of naked women in same room having being blackmailed by big brother with 25 million bait of price knowing the Nigerian economy is in bad shape.
3) wether big brother treated him same way others were treated like op mentioned.....the case of offunneka and richard and the time that South African guy almost removed the pant of Karen that led to fight.?
4) that he initially thought Tboss consented and the withdrew the moment he realised slightest resistance.
5) Finally, he should ask the court to compel the censors board to ban the program finally.

KAYD007:
Question for you: should a man who raped a woman in a brothel be prosecuted for rape since he is only maintaining the brothel's status quo for sex?

Ki lo pa iya ijebu

wirinet:
If it can be proven than kenen penetrated TBoss's vagina with his fingers at anytime during the episode, that is RAPE.

Did he penetrate his finger? I don't think so. He probably made a move to penetrate his finger which the lady turned down.

mctowel01:
Stupid, very stupid post.... Why will his wife or daughter be sleeping on the sane bed with another man, why will they be allowing a massage unclad, why will they be allowing a shower from a guy unclad. Bigbrother has no moral grounds for Kemen's disqualification. simple

Are you deaf ( or blind as the case may be). Many people here has been screaming the word CONSENT. If Kenem had sex with TBoss with her consent, Big brother cannot do anything to Kenem.

chalondk:
The answer is YES. Dont start silly arguements abeg. A brothel is not a red room. It is an establishment where customers pay for services.. .tho sexual in nature, but services all the same. And still the prostitute must give her consent!
No just bring that leg abeg.. .

You don't get me. I made the statement against the Obe Tok2008 made. When he said that kemen shouldn't have been disqualified because he is only maintaining the status quo in a house full of immorality..

To which I now replied that....are you saying a person should not be prosecuted if one commits rape in a brothel since it is a house of sex? You get my drift now?

I am in no way supporting Kemen' s action therefore you DARE Not make my statement look that way for your lack of comprehension of what I said.

mctowel01:
Stupid, very stupid post.... Why will his wife or daughter be sleeping on the sane bed with another man, why will they be allowing a massage unclad, why will they be allowing a shower from a guy unclad. Bigbrother has no moral grounds for Kemen's disqualification. simple

but Tboss has her right

chalondk:
You have a point there.. .the clips i watched only showed where she turned dont know if he continued or not

Simple, yet bigbrother blew it out of proportion. Funny thing is that She was sitting on Kemen's laps the next morning, before the diary session, and they were all cool. Bigbrother organizers are just sissies.

Toks2008:
Ki lo pa iya ijebu

You had better answer truthfully...because...to us here...you are of the belief that a rape or sexual assault is not one so long it is committed in a brothel.

ba7man:
Get realistic here.

If you saw Debbie-rise forcing herself on Bassey and at the same time, saw Kemen forcing himself on T-boss, who do you think people will rush to help?

They'lll even laugh at Bassey sef.

The 2 situations will never be the same.

Meaning the moral grounds for judging the actions of different housemates is faulty and that is plain wrong. It is not a question of people's sentiments, its wrong, its wrong.

mctowel01:
Azn, its okay if I see women defending the decision, but I think any man condemning Kemen(not like he is totally innocent) is a classic case of woman wrapoerism and hypocrisy. Na guys like that dey always dey friendzone, brothezone, familyzone

The thing dey disgust me badly. I actually don't blame the ladies. They have been configured to permanently be the "victim". Tmr they want to have equal rights with Men, they want gender equality. But guy men trying to paint Kemen like a predator for just that video! Na! I won't accept that, cos that will mean quite a number of men are perverts and predators too.

ndidibabe:
Did he penetrate his finger? I don't think so. He probably made a move to penetrate his finger which the lady turned down.

That should be the question, and not trying to insinuate Kenen has the justification to finger Tboss because she did not complain.

wirinet:
Flirting with a married man is morally wrong ( in most societies) not legally wrong, but rape is both morally and legally wrong is all societies.

What of having MouthAction with a married man, Is it legally wrong? cos same way we cant see what happened under the bedspread with TTT and Bisola, we can't also judge what happened under the sheets with Kemen and Tboss

1bkaye:
It isn't about 'morality', it's about the fact that he touched someone whilst she was sleeping, without her C.O.N.S.E.N.T (permission for something to happen or agreement to do something - definition added because I know a lot of you Nigerian men sometimes find this particular word difficult to grasp) plus he's had a history on the show of saying rapey things which he's already been warned about, this was the last straw and he was rightfully disqualified

U are right dear.

proffc:
You all are missing the point here. All of the 'immorality' that's happened so far in the house has been between consenting adults, awake and able to control their decisions. Tboss didn't give her consent that is why Kemen erred.

Anyway when a man thinks he must have sex with a girl just because she came to his house, how won't he justify Kemen's action?

Sorry, but Bassey wasn't awake and didn't consent to Debbie rise kissing him in his sleep. And he can lay claims to feeling violated if he was asked, just that the aproko big brother took into Kemen's case, wasn't used for Bassey's case. #Double standards

ndidibabe:
Did he penetrate his finger? I don't think so. He probably made a move to penetrate his finger which the lady turned down.

That is the no CONSENT there. The only thing that can justify a molestation here is if Kamen tried to force his way after she turned against him. Until i see a video of that...all i see on internet is facts twisting, changing of narrative, emotional sentiments, and hypocritical clowns. I mean thr white witch was sitting in the poor guy's laps in the morning. Some people want to make us believe Tboss wasn't aware of anything and was drunk...like seriously??

the op should not make the mistake of venturing to any western country.like a lot of nigerian males he has a very cavalier attitude towards sexual assault. in this country it is easy to slut shame victims of rape and sexual assault, and so people like the op would see nothing wromg with drugging girls or getting them drunk, or bullying/intimidating them, and then placing the blame o them for whatever transpired.

this is not about morality.it is about crime

it is immoral [in most cultures and religions] to commit fornication, adultery, dress seductively, etc. it is a CRIME to engage in any form of sexual assault.
once there is evidence of any kind that sexual activity between two parties was non consensual, that is grounds for a sexual assault case.

KEMEN could be tagged as a registered sex offender in other climes and mandated by law to place a sign outside his residence warning that he is a sex offender.

this is the sort of shiit bill cosby was pulling all those years

there was a big brother or similar themed reality show in brazil or one of those nations where there was an actual rape.

Kemen's action show predatory behavior. Do not be surprised if some of his victims start coming out.

on top of being a predator, the guy is remarkably stupid. assaulting someone on a south african reality TV show. the show runners would never condone actions like that given SA's history with rape. if nigeria had clear laws , they would have handed kemen over to the authorities as he stepped out the door.