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Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by izzou(m): 6:55pm On Mar 06, 2017
skedman:
hello,to be frank with you she is really performing, even more than the foreign minister

I didn't bring up any issue about performance. If a special assistant has a media aide,what about the minister?

How many other aides does she have apart from the media? We are spending so much maintaining these people.

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Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by menzo4u: 7:14pm On Mar 06, 2017
emi14:


If they reduce this alarming cost still they won't give you. Let's stop stressing. Nigeria doesn't have any system.
Yea, I agree. But even if they spend just 10percent of this money in addition to the money budgeted for construction of good roads, my life, your life and that of many other Nigerians will be saved.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by quickly: 7:36pm On Mar 06, 2017
ikp120:
Who goes to US these days except for some very serious stuffs? Trump don harm US' international relations very well. Imagine detaining Mohammed Ali Jr. for hours asking him if he be Muslim. cry. US is neither a Christian nation nor an Islamic nation, but a secular nation.

If anyone invites me to US now, I go ask the person to come to naija because naija sure pass US now o. Racism and xenophobia are at their peaks in US right now, under this Trump's administration.

I'm glad that this is official.


The us views itself as a Christian country- Protestant Christianity

Simple way to know is only xtain holidays are celebrated nationally.


Just like Saudi is a Moslem country and Nigeria is a bi religious country
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ikp120(m): 8:09pm On Mar 06, 2017
quickly:



The us views itself as a Christian country- Protestant Christianity

Simple way to know is only xtain holidays are celebrated nationally.


Just like Saudi is a Moslem country and Nigeria is a bi religious country

But the constitution, which is the law of the land, does not say so.

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Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by amanikondo: 8:29pm On Mar 06, 2017
Nigerian Visa in the US is $450. $450 for bad service.
I hope American can increase their application fees too.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by kwaso2: 8:37pm On Mar 06, 2017
nwanna89:
Senior Special Assistant has a media aide too? Kai. Naija!
U never see anything sef. Her media aide get him own SA, then the SA go get PA, then PA go get secretary. That's democracy for u. De money must flow down

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Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by Temysteve(m): 8:48pm On Mar 06, 2017
izzou:


The cost of running this country is very high. The problem of this country is not really about what party rules, but the fact that we spend so much maintaining irrelevant positions.

Thats just the fact bro! Some positions need to be scrapped..
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by Temysteve(m): 8:51pm On Mar 06, 2017
ALAYORMII:
I had rather go and face whatever is there than be in this
You have a point due to Nigeria situation as it stand. But remember 'No place like home'
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by Nobody: 9:24pm On Mar 06, 2017
What about Buhari, is he nolonger a Nigerian?
There was administration.

Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ALAYORMII: 9:31pm On Mar 06, 2017
Temysteve:
You have a point due to Nigeria situation as it stand. But remember 'No place like home'


Only said by people who have no where to go other than home
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by Litmus: 10:55pm On Mar 06, 2017
Like those Most Corrupt Nations rankings in which Niaralanders bemoan the fact Nigeria isn't number one, I seem to recall Nairalanders bemoaning the fact Nigeria wasn't among the ranks of nations on Trump's restrict list. Perhaps god loves Nigerians wink
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by Newmanluckyman(m): 12:01am On Mar 07, 2017
... Hope Wole Soyinka is taking note.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by quickly: 1:05am On Mar 07, 2017
ikp120:


But the constitution, which is the law of the land, does not say so.

The us constitution mentions holy trinity and year of our lord.

Who else is that talking about
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by davidif: 1:22am On Mar 07, 2017
nwanna89:
Senior Special Assistant has a media aide too? Kai. Naija!

And then say money no dey.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by davidif: 1:27am On Mar 07, 2017
izzou:


The cost of running this country is very high. The problem of this country is not really about what party rules, but the fact that we spend so much maintaining irrelevant positions.


Gbam! I have been saying it them no go listen. If Nigeria was a company it would have been bankrupt by now. You have 36 divisions that are hardly generating anything and are on life support from revenue from the top. If it was me I would have shut them down or sold them off.

To make matters worse, the administrative state (to borrow steve bannon's lingo) is waaaaaay too big. It's similar to Greece. It needs serious downsizing.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by davidif: 1:32am On Mar 07, 2017
waterhouse071:
I'm not a terrorist, so i have nothing to fear about.

You don't have to be a terrorist to be affected. It's hard for almost everyone this days. The other day I read about an Argentian who is a legal resident in New York and has been here for 10 years. The man went to Buenos Aires for vacation then came back to the U.S only to be detained for close to 14 hours with no access to phone or to even contact his lawyer. After everything, the man was deported back to Argentina. This despite the fact that he is a popular artist in New York. This is how things are right now.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by davidif: 1:37am On Mar 07, 2017
tolustx:
Tell this to bubu. Let him and all the leaders lead by example.

I do not mean to derail this thread but these got my attention more than the real issue being discussed . Does this mean even a Senior Special Assistant to the president also has a media aide (being paid from the nation's treasury)? Remember that there are still other Special assistants doing the same job and this probably applies to all other SSAs. Where then is the reduction in government spending that he APC promised us? We know these offices are not part of the civil service, but only a political appointment. This doesn't sound well at all. What the hell does an SSA have to say that he/she should be too busy to relay by herself/himself that would now require the employment of a media aide.

I will submit by saying however that maybe it is not a bad idea to have a media aide for such offices, but I will suggest that the office holders should be made to pay the aides from whatever they are paid as their salaries. That will now show whether or not they really need the aides.

There are very few people in power who are gifted administrators so don't blame them when they don't know how to streamline an organization. If you tell them to draw an organizational chart now with the different positions and responsibilities I doubt that most of them can do it.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by davidif: 2:10am On Mar 07, 2017
iswallker:


so senior special assistant should run the office of ssa alone. be the driver, the receptionist, the secretary etc. common people, an office will always be staffed.

and stop derailing thread... undecided

Can't they drive themselves and pick up there own calls? With a laptop and your own car you can do all this things by yourselves.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by davidif: 2:13am On Mar 07, 2017
signz:
Please why is this information coming from the Office Of the SSA?

Do we not have a Minister of Foreign Affairs who I believe is in a better position to release such an Info.

Is someone fighting for relevance here?

I tire o.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by davidif: 2:15am On Mar 07, 2017
izzou:


I didn't bring up any issue about performance. If a special assistant has a media aide,what about the minister?

How many other aides does she have apart from the media? We are spending so much maintaining these people.

Bros, na too much oil money dey cause am o.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by davidif: 2:20am On Mar 07, 2017
UltimatedeBest:


Why is Abike undertaking d work of ministry of foreign affairs? Her post is a waste of taxpayers money which is unnecessary. And she also has media aide who is also feeding from taxpayers money for issuing dat useless piece of crap. Is she d one to tell us when and when not to travel to US? SSA on diaspora my Ass.

Abeg help me tell them o. And this is just at the federal level. I can only imagine how wasteful things are at the state level. Since the Fed govt provides the budget of this state's. No wonder this guys can't pay salary. Probably because there is waaaaaay too many mouths to feed. I no blame them sha, na too much oil money dey cause am.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ttmacoy: 9:28am On Mar 07, 2017
This is just bullshit.

The previous executive order wasn't in effect 2 weeks ago hence if 4 Nigerians were truly turned back it wasn't because of trumps executive order but for something else.

Also with the number of flights that fly from Nigeria to America everyday we can agree more than 4 people flew to America which means majority entered except 4.

I wouldn't be surprised if their visa was cancelled for immigration fraud or something. Dabiri's travel advice is irresponsible and just scare mongering.

Besides the guy has been clear of his intentions and has never targeted legal migration from Nigeria.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ATERI(m): 10:52am On Mar 07, 2017
The people that are born to be slaves are always difficult to govern, even when those in power try to stand up for them, they would still prefer that slavish status. Most Nigerians are born to be slaves.

Kudos to those in government for this advice.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ATERI(m): 10:55am On Mar 07, 2017
ttmacoy:
This is just bullshit.

The previous executive order wasn't in effect 2 weeks ago hence if 4 Nigerians were truly turned back it wasn't because of trumps executive order but for something else.

Also with the number of flights that fly from Nigeria to America everyday we can agree more than 4 people flew to America which means majority entered except 4.

I wouldn't be surprised if their visa was cancelled for immigration fraud or something. Dabiri's travel advice is irresponsible and just scare mongering.

Besides the guy has been clear of his intentions and has never targeted legal migration from Nigeria.

Are you a fraudster, because it takes one to know one?
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ttmacoy: 10:56am On Mar 07, 2017
Were you there when their visa was cancelled to be so sure it was because of an executive order that was not even in effect?

ATERI:


Are you a fraudster, because it takes one to know one?
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ttmacoy: 10:58am On Mar 07, 2017
By lying and blowing things out of proportion is kudos, and by calling them out on the lie is slavery.

Yet they have not issued a travel warning to South Africa where Nigerians are being killed.

ATERI:

The people that are born to be slaves are always difficult to govern, even when those in power try to stand up for them, they would still prefer that slavish status. Most Nigerians are born to be slaves.

Kudos to those in government for this advice.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ATERI(m): 12:09pm On Mar 07, 2017
ttmacoy:
By lying and blowing things out of proportion is kudos, and by calling them out on the lie is slavery.

Yet they have not issued a travel warning to South Africa where Nigerians are being killed.


I have criticized the government on the way they handled the South African issue, so you and I agree on that one

Donald Trump doesn`t care whether anybody has a visa or not, as long as they are not white, anything goes!

So deporting four Nigerians that have legitimate visas means nothing to them. If their visas had been fake, you would have heard it first on CNN and they wouldn`t have come back to Nigeria and proceeded to lodge a formal complaint. Those in govenment have done a fantastic job. I condemn them whenever they fall short, I have to praise them when they stand up for our country. Your country!

Tell me the last time you lot condemn America for treating you or your country shabbily. It is the job of those in government to defend the collective honour and integrity of all Nigerians and they have done that on this occasion. Good morning!
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ttmacoy: 12:26pm On Mar 07, 2017
Yes I agree the US government should be criticised if they treat Nigerians unfairly but nothing in her statement proves they were treated unfairly and as I said 4 people turned back in 2 weeks in comparison to the number of flights and people who travel between Nigerian and US daily is miniscule so it is NOT due to Trump's order but something else.

Do you think people from other countries aren't sent back as well? Even people from the UK which is visa free are sent back if there is a reason to do so e.g. UK citizens who lie they do not have a criminal record and use the visa waiver program when they shouldn't will be sent back if caught.

At the bolded, that is just wrong, please show me proof he is targeting people as long as you are not white. He has been clear he is targeting illegal immigration especially where illegal immigrants commit criminal offences and I do not see anything wrong with that. His executive order very very clear and targets 7 countries which you will agree are countries wit so many issue that even verifying someone's is very hard e.g. Somalia Syria etc. How have you translated that to against anyone not white?

Have you even read the text of the executive orders or just believing everything you hear in the news?

If the Nigerians visa was fake you would not hear it on CNN, you know why? Because so many Nigerians use fake visas and documents so catching 4 in 2 weeks will NOT make headline news. On the contrary if they were turned back falsely that will make the news.


ATERI:


I have criticized the government on the way they handled the South African issue, so you and I agree on that one

Donald Trump doesn`t care whether anybody has a visa or not, as long as they are not white, anything goes!

So deporting four Nigerians that have legitimate visas means nothing to them. If their visas had been fake, you would have heard it first on CNN and they wouldn`t have come back to Nigeria and proceeded to lodge a formal complaint. Those in govenment have done a fantastic job. I condemn them whenever they fall short, I have to praise them when they stand up for our country. Your country!

Tell me the last time you lot condemn America for treating you or your country shabbily. It is the job of those in government to defend the collective honour and integrity of all Nigerians and they have done that on this occasion. Good morning!
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ATERI(m): 5:52pm On Mar 07, 2017
ttmacoy:
Yes I agree the US government should be criticised if they treat Nigerians unfairly but nothing in her statement proves they were treated unfairly and as I said 4 people turned back in 2 weeks in comparison to the number of flights and people who travel between Nigerian and US daily is miniscule so it is NOT due to Trump's order but something else.

Do you think people from other countries aren't sent back as well? Even people from the UK which is visa free are sent back if there is a reason to do so e.g. UK citizens who lie they do not have a criminal record and use the visa waiver program when they shouldn't will be sent back if caught.

At the bolded, that is just wrong, please show me proof he is targeting people as long as you are not white. He has been clear he is targeting illegal immigration especially where illegal immigrants commit criminal offences and I do not see anything wrong with that. His executive order very very clear and targets 7 countries which you will agree are countries wit so many issue that even verifying someone's is very hard e.g. Somalia Syria etc. How have you translated that to against anyone not white?

Have you even read the text of the executive orders or just believing everything you hear in the news?

If the Nigerians visa was fake you would not hear it on CNN, you know why? Because so many Nigerians use fake visas and documents so catching 4 in 2 weeks will NOT make headline news. On the contrary if they were turned back falsely that will make the news.



It`s possible you helped Donald Trump to write his Islamophobic executive orders, but you are not in a position to influence how people understand it. Great that you believe America cannot do anything wrong, and congratulations for seeing all Nigerians as being responsible for their appalling treatments. However, your assumption of America`s infallibility is not supported by any practical experiences. The guy they described as Celestine Omin, a Nigerian software engineer on a work visit to the United States, was not using a fraudulent passport. More importantly, the son of Muhammad Al who is far more important in America than any of you lot, was not traveling on a forged passport,either. So if he could be a victim of racist and Islamophobic profiling at the point of entry, then it can`t be me that is getting the racial angle of this issue twisted.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ttmacoy: 6:09pm On Mar 07, 2017
I still don't see your point here. Celestine was questioned because the border officer was not sure if he was coming for the reason he claimed he was coming for and after extra questioning he was let in and not returned as you and Dabiri are claiming. That is the job of the US border agency and yes sometimes some people may be asked extra questions until they are sure.

I used to hold a L1 work visa and every time I came in they would ask what I did with the company and I would be let in. Sometimes it's just to see how you react and answer rather than they really know what you do because they obviously will now know the details of every job on earth. it may be he hesitated or did not look confident or for any reason that the officer may have puled him aside for extra questioning and this happens to everyone all over the freaking globe so get off your high horse.

If Nigerian immigration officials have any inclination someone may be misrepresenting themselves I will hope they take precautions to ask more questions to be sure rather than just let them in. Oh sorry I forgot they would rather collect bribes and let them in.

And as per your point about America doing no wrong when have I said so? They have done wrong yes but in this case if questioning someone extra that is their prerogative and a visa is a privilege not a right. Go and watch Australian border force shows to see how they scrutinise and question people even those holding British and US passports before entry and many are sent back if the officer has reason to send him back simple.

Yes if a Nigerian travels to the US or any country and vice versa on false pretences and they are sent back, is that wrong?

That is a video of a Nigerian caught by the UK border force with a fake visa. Wow Nigeria must stop trade with the UK for daring to send him back shouldn't they? Are you trying to deny that cases like this doesn't happen with Nigerians caught with fake papers or claiming they are going for holiday but actually planning to stay behind and work illegally?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKXRj5fhEQA



ATERI:


It`s possible you helped Donald Trump to write his Islamophobic executive orders, but you are not in a position to influence how people understand it. Great that you believe America cannot do anything wrong, and congratulations for seeing all Nigerians as being responsible for their appalling treatments. However, your assumption of America`s infallibility is not supported by any practical experiences. The guy they described as Celestine Omin, a Nigerian software engineer on a work visit to the United States, was not using a fraudulent passport. More importantly, the son of Muhammad Al who is far more important in America than any of you lot, was not traveling on a forged passport,either. So if he could be a victim of racist and Islamophobic profiling at the point of entry, then it can`t be me that is getting the racial angle of this issue twisted.
Re: Postpone U.s Trip For Now Presidency Urges Nigerians by ATERI(m): 8:50pm On Mar 07, 2017
ttmacoy:
I still don't see your point here. Celestine was questioned because the border officer was not sure if he was coming for the reason he claimed he was coming for and after extra questioning he was let in and not returned as you and Dabiri are claiming. That is the job of the US border agency and yes sometimes some people may be asked extra questions until they are sure.

I used to hold a L1 work visa and every time I came in they would ask what I did with the company and I would be let in. Sometimes it's just to see how you react and answer rather than they really know what you do because they obviously will now know the details of every job on earth. it may be he hesitated or did not look confident or for any reason that the officer may have puled him aside for extra questioning and this happens to everyone all over the freaking globe so get off your high horse.

If Nigerian immigration officials have any inclination someone may be misrepresenting themselves I will hope they take precautions to ask more questions to be sure rather than just let them in. Oh sorry I forgot they would rather collect bribes and let them in.

And as per your point about America doing no wrong when have I said so? They have done wrong yes but in this case if questioning someone extra that is their prerogative and a visa is a privilege not a right. Go and watch Australian border force shows to see how they scrutinise and question people even those holding British and US passports before entry and many are sent back if the officer has reason to send him back simple.

Yes if a Nigerian travels to the US or any country and vice versa on false pretences and they are sent back, is that wrong?

That is a video of a Nigerian caught by the UK border force with a fake visa. Wow Nigeria must stop trade with the UK for daring to send him back shouldn't they? Are you trying to deny that cases like this doesn't happen with Nigerians caught with fake papers or claiming they are going for holiday but actually planning to stay behind and work illegally?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKXRj5fhEQA




Oh, we have now moved on to the UK? Post more video clips from youtube and goggle now. Most of this stuff are shown on tv to damage the thought process of people like you, and I can see that you are one of the victims. I`m intelligent enough to know that, in a country of roughly 200m people, somebody would behave badly, but what that tiny minority do should not be used to demonize the entire country. Are they also showing you that majority of men that go to South-East Asia looking for children to have sex with are mostly white men from Europe and America? Well, they would rarely show you that, they would rather show you the ugliness of your race. Next time you are made to swallow this poison from the western media, be good enough to tell them this: the fact that most paedophiles are white does not mean all whites are paedophiles. Bye for now!

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