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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amanikondo: 1:37am On Mar 17, 2017
FastShipping:


Ah grin grin grin

I've been unlucky with some nairalanders. I saw you just sent me a mail.


The attitude is just bad and he had the gut to tell me I built a stupid house.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 1:43am On Mar 17, 2017
FastShipping:


I have been a victim of quacks here. Don't believe the pictures you see here.

Without sending me pictures, I know what you must have gone through. My roof was completely torn down and had to be done twice. I don't know how some people come here to pose as professionals when they are actually stark illiterates in real world. I just don't like destroying people. My advice to him at the time was to have somber reflection and to change his way and not pose as what he's not. If I decided then to open a thread here about what happened to me, I believe he wouldn't come to nairaland again or hurt himself. A lot did go down during my roofing stage. Sometimes when I see him taking on people's builds and criticizing their work, I just open my mouth with disbelieve. I hope the guy finds other way to earn a living.

Up till today I saved his endless plea he sent to me on BlackBerry and promise he made to be of good conduct.

I just left things to God because God has never let me lack much.
I understand your gentle man Conduct sir but i believe you should always expose these questionable elements anyone who has a good claim i believe will come and defend himself or herself with proof to show otherwise. They are bad elements that must be exposed to make Nairaland safer to conduct business its very important.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amanikondo: 1:49am On Mar 17, 2017
FastShipping:


I have been a victim of quacks here. Don't believe the pictures you see here.

Without sending me pictures, I know what you must have gone through. My roof was completely torn down and had to be done twice. I don't know how some people come here to pose as professionals when they are actually stark illiterates in real world. I just don't like destroying people. My advice to him at the time was to have somber reflection and to change his way and not pose as what he's not. If I decided then to open a thread here about what happened to me, I believe he wouldn't come to nairaland again or hurt himself. A lot did go down during my roofing stage. Sometimes when I see him taking on people's builds and criticizing their work, I just open my mouth with disbelieve. I hope the guy finds other way to earn a living.

Up till today I saved his endless plea he sent to me on BlackBerry and promise he made to be of good conduct.

I just left things to God because God has never let me lack much.

Thanks. it was late before I saw the red flag. Only him is a Roofer, Web designer, Aluminum window maker, builder, Mowe developer and many more. He thought this was my first house.

My instinct failed me. I have had good guys from Nairaland. I am not looking to argue with an slowpoke like him on Nairaland but I will be reminding everyone he engages here what they are getting themselves into .

I will never celebrate mediocrity if others accept the kind of job he delivers.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 1:50am On Mar 17, 2017
amanikondo:


The attitude is just bad and he had the gut to tell me I built a stupid house.

I wasn't surprised to read this. He does have very bad attitude. He lambasted me for talking to his workers on the phone while they were working and he wasn't there. He asked me why I spoke to them 'behind his back'. I got Hajj on the phone to listen to conversation between me and him and Hajj was surprised by his tone. My mother saw his action on site when she made a stop to see the ongoing work. She witnessed the way the guy was cursing and disrespecting elderly people there. My mother called me and asked me where did I find such a person to work for me. I made a call to him immediately and fired him on the spot.

If I should say the atrocities he did at my site, yours will be a child's play compare to mine.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 1:55am On Mar 17, 2017
EgunMogaji:


It has also been argued here before that sometimes architects design these 3D's without taking into full consideration on what's available locally as in regards to materials and skillset.

Hopefully, you'll be able to design and build something that you can show us in due time.

Thanks.

This still goes back to what we are saying sir, Naija has so much developed that depending on the clients spending power can achieve any finish that is so required how do you build a house worth 100M and give the roofing to baba Sikira despite warning and u expect the same result with some popular brand, baba sikira will do it cheaper but he might lack equipment and technical know how to enable him deliver as required.(Apologies to all Baba Sikira's in the house, no harm meant).I don't believe really believe in sharing pictures its just our clime that has forced that on us.
Please note that am not ruling out Architects culpability in the whole process, my advice to clients is that they stop patronising cheap architects that mass produces your drawings and share according to your demands. i see a lot pple ask for designs in here by just giving dimensions. Just Dimensions of sites are not sufficient to achieve a required result an actual site visitation is required.
My point is that only one factor is not always culpable for the issues or challenges faced in achieving a particular design.
Thanks for taking your time to reply greatly appreciated and please have a blessed day.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ice4u999(m): 4:28am On Mar 17, 2017
amanikondo:


I have been hearing underground that Hslbroker did a bad roof job for you. He did a same shoddy job too for me. I don't know why he has not been exposed on Nairaland.

You would have saved someone like me thousands of Naira. I do not come online to say bad things about artisan.

This guy can never be successful in this world and after life.

Wait o, is this the same Hslbroker that started a thread on " number of blocks required for fencing a plot"?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amanikondo: 5:52am On Mar 17, 2017
ice4u999:


Wait o, is this the same Hslbroker that started a thread on " number of blocks required for fencing a plot"?

Yep. Don't fall for it. He is jack of all trade master of none.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 7:57am On Mar 17, 2017
amanikondo:


Yep. Don't fall for it. He is jack of all trade master of none.

To think that I almost asked him to do some supply on my site.....@Fastshipping,you used to be my friend from far,but now I am reconsidering that. You really don't have any reason not to warn us on NL. Just imagine the number of people that would have fallen victim to his nefarious and dubious activities.

Come to think of it "HSLBroker" sounds to me like some stockbroker grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 8:00am On Mar 17, 2017
Most employers pay accommodation allowance on a yearly basis. The Nigerian situation is a product of the average Nigerian tenant acting on his own integrity or lack thereof.

Most countries now count a failure to pay rent as making yourself intentionally homeless. The balance needs to be made between not causing financial ruin for owners from irresponsible tenants and the equally irresponsible actions of a landlord.

I am yet to come across state governments who build for rent only employer based once as they hold the purse string and will make deductions upfront.

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diordaves:


So why is yearly rent the best? You've made some valuable points, no doubt but why yearly rent? What are the problems​ that yearly rent is solving that made yearly rent the best?

From my take, problems of rentals are:
Default
Vandalism
Anti social behaviour

So from the above, does yearly rent better solve these as against monthly rent?

Do you buy the argument that Landlords/ladies went yearly due to greed? Shortermism syndrome; wanting to "pack" money to the back quick quick?

And there's another argument that yearly rent is a form of insurance for landlords/landladies. Before story start, I don collect one year first.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:24am On Mar 17, 2017
You would have saved someone like me thousands of Naira. I do not come online to say bad things about artisan.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:25am On Mar 17, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 8:32am On Mar 17, 2017
You honestly don't need anyone's permission to "hear your own side of the story". Put it in mind that at least 3 people have corroborated the allegation (including the person who recommended you to the victims)

You are free to defend yourself.

HsLBroker:
i hope someone will hear from my side, and not just hear from one party and make judgement

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:35am On Mar 17, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:42am On Mar 17, 2017
Who are the victims, so i can address this issues one after the other, because there no where i want to go, if i made mistake i will make amendment, i'm not God, i can make mistake, i'm a simple and easy going, so if there is a problem it can be solve, but i need to know the site, and the location we are talking about
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 8:46am On Mar 17, 2017
HsLBroker:
who are the victims, so i can address this issues one after the other, because there no where i want to go, if i made mistake i will make amendment, i'm not God, i can make mistake, i'm a simple and easy going, so if there is a problem it can be solve, but i need to know the site, and the location we are talking about

THE VICTIMS.

1. Fastshipping (I am sure you know him and the strory)

2.Amanikondo (If you claim not to know him and the story, he's at liberty to fire the first salvo).

I am sure you know Hajj Mufutau referred you to them,so that should give you an hint as to what transpired with whom and when.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:56am On Mar 17, 2017
I know hajji very
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:00am On Mar 17, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:12am On Mar 17, 2017
want to also know, if i work for you sir, because i know those in diaspora, if then send money to me, i do there job without any delay and those in Nigeria as well
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:13am On Mar 17, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 9:17am On Mar 17, 2017
HsLBroker:
i'm not a stockbroker @Marilo, if you give me money i will do your job, and if you are giving me money before and i didn't do your job please tell the world.

Yawns !!!! undecided angry sad
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:18am On Mar 17, 2017
HsLBroker:
i'm not a stockbroker @Marilo, if you give me money i will do your job, and if you are giving me money before and i didn't do your job please tell the world.
there are several people here that will testify i'm not a bad person, though some people will just want to destroy things they didn't build, for no reason, but at the end the just will be vindicated
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 9:21am On Mar 17, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 9:28am On Mar 17, 2017
HsLBroker:


@Marilo i want to also know, if i work for you sir, because i know those in diaspora, if then send money to me, i do there job without any delay and those in Nigeria as well

So what i'm saying is that if Mr. Tosin is the person you are taking about that we just help me to correct the stone coated covering so company did for him that was bad, i will be happy to address and you will all see what i'm talking about.

This your strategy is what i call "dilly dally".

1. You have asked a question about who your victims are (or those who alleged to be your victims) and I have listed them out...They are at liberty to take it further.

2.I have not stated anywhere that I was your victim (maybe I am lucky enough not to be one)

3. I have a strong conviction you know the people in question and the misdeed,you are just dillying dallying about it to proctect your business.

4. You have every reason to protect your business but we as potential clients also have every reasons to proctect our investments/hard-earned money.

5.I have only stepped in as I was at the peak of commissioning you to deliver some supplies to my site, so this "allegation" comes at the nick of time for me (and I guess for others too to be wary of the kind of transaction that we go into).

6.From the foregoing, you have a lot at stake not to play smart as there are discerning minds here who can smell a rat from miles away.

7. The above is not a conclusive conclusion as to your culpability until otherwise proven..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:30am On Mar 17, 2017
mufutau55:


I have heard the same bad jobs from three clients also..
I hope some of these clients will bring him to book here.
Please guys watch whom you award your contracts.

Hajji M.

Hajji I can explain all of this things, i didn't do bad jobs, I will and everyone will see my part of the story
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:44am On Mar 17, 2017
I'm a contractor and I'm proud to be a contractor

Yes because I use my time judiciously to learn when desiging for my own good doesn't make me a bad person, I designs www.lifelightproperties.com myself so I save money there for another

Yes, we fabricate aluminums for windows, at a very cheap price with the best materials that will stand the test of time.

Because I sell lands does that make me a bad person sir, if there is anyone I have collected money from his or her hand here without give him is land you are free to come here and tell the world, but you know you can never satisfy human being, human being are insatiable, you know I tried my best for you, I was not the one that roof your house, you only call me for amendment on your roof and the covering.

Now sir, you know I'm not a computer, presently facing there different people at the same time, I tackle this one after the other, I respect you, and your mummy I always respect even when mummy was telling me you are giving him too much headache and your friend said your problem is too much, I was the one telling them to calm down.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 10:52am On Mar 17, 2017
SMH in disgust.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:54am On Mar 17, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:56am On Mar 17, 2017
FastShipping:
SMH in disgust.
I'm composing my details.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 10:57am On Mar 17, 2017
HsLBroker:
sir give me chance to explain myself sir, you have explained yourself, I beg you in the name of God, let me explain myself

Did I hold you down from explaining yourself? Don't get me pissed off with your phony explanation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:06am On Mar 17, 2017
HsLBroker:

Hajji I can explain all of this things, i didn't do bad jobs, I will and everyone will see my part of the story

Then go ahead and tell your story let everyone hear it.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:26am On Mar 17, 2017
1. Nobody on earth can protect his or her business without protecting the clients or clientele.

2. I was just surprise on how the accusations was coming, and there several people here who I have work for which I don’t know their nairaland handler or username, I thought you are putting up and issue against me as well but now I understand, but one thing I want you to know is that I’m not a bad person and I will never be part of anything call bad or evil, I respect my clients and I will always.

3. I have never done any misdeed, I can explain myself and tackle this one after the other.

which I believe is fastshipping expect my guessing is faking me, is a client of mine and we are going on very well not until yesterday night, he sent me money to roof his house at Ajah, we have never met before, so after I received the alert, I went to sites with the woods and my professional carpenters, when we got there the parapet was not yet completed at that time, I told him, if these carpenters stay on site without working they will be collecting their daily money and it going to really after me.

So, we deliberated on it and we started the work, while the parapet guys or pop guys are completing their work.

To cut the story short, we completed the roofing, which the picture we be attach here, I didn’t run away with his money.

So, after about 2 weeks after I submitted the stone coated quotation to him, he called me that the guys that did the roofing covering didn’t do it well, that he will want me to come and help him correct it with my boys, that he was really sorry for not to have giving the covering to me initially, that he was broke so one of his friend who was selling the stone coated materials gave it to him on loan and he didn’t hear from me that is why he gave it to someone else but now the did had been done now we should find a way to repair the mistake the former guys did, so we went to site to confirm the situation.

When we got there, we discover that the roof was very very very bad and it going to leak and it will not properly lay.

So I told him we going to buy need some stone coated materials plus the one he already have on site.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:28am On Mar 17, 2017
Marilo:

THE VICTIMS.

1. Fastshipping (I am sure you know him and the strory)

2.Amanikondo (If you claim not to know him and the story, he's at liberty to fire the first salvo).

I am sure you know Hajj Mufutau referred you to them,so that should give you an hint as to what transpired with whom and when.

Oga Marilo. I never recommended him to Amanikondo, I couldnt have done that after the bad job he did with FastShipping.
I and FastShipping decided together to engage him in his project which we regretted heavily.
I will never recommend HSLBROKER to anyone with my right mind.

Hajji M.

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