Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:17pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
giles14: are u sure? last I checked 90% of their weapons are from European countries.
u can ask Argentina how useless their weapons became wen France choice to help GB with some weapon secret. 90 percent? Where are you getting the stats from? Hundreds of IFVs and APCs we field are made locally, we're almost self sufficient on land forces. The sea and air platforms don't even equate for 40 percent of the total platforms and they're also supplemented by locally built strategic defence sub-systems. We may not win a pound-to-pound war against France, Britain and Germany BUT they can't defeat and occupy us, they'll need millions of soldiers to do that. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 10:19pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
assuming Boko haram manages to secure one SCUD surface to surface missile from libyan stockpile and manage to transport it through porous Chad or Niger down to our borders What will be Nigerias response?
. knowing that libya once operated hundreds of SCUD B which has a range of about 300km (that's alot of distance). the media outcome will be astronomical to say the least.
.HAS ANYBODY EVER THOUGHT OF THAT? 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:24pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Nigerian Police officers on Patrol in Timbuktu, Mali 2 Likes |
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Nigerian Navy 3 Likes |
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Nigerian Navy CQC drill 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 10:27pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Denel dynamics' (then Kentron) LRAAM. Note: Air breathing device tested.
This would have raised the bar in AAMs anyway the water has long passed the bridge. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 10:29pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
lionel4power:
Nigeria’s Tiny, Low-
Tech Alpha Jets Have
Flown in Brutal Wars
Across Africa
Now the former training jets
are blasting Boko Haram
by SEBASTIEN ROBLIN
On the morning of June 19, 2016, seven
Toyota Hilux trucks manned by Boko
Haram fighters lay in wait near Daira
Noro, Borno State in northeastern
Nigeria.
Members of a fundamentalist
insurgency infamous for its terrorist
attacks and kidnappings of young girls,
the fighters had recently been chased
out of their camps in Sambisa forest by
an African multi-national task force.
As the African forces advanced north in
pursuit, the Boko Haram fighters had
prepared a road-side ambush under tree
cover. Two of their trucks were armed
with heavy machine guns.
The distant whine of small airplane
engines sounded overhead. An unarmed
civilian plane flew by.
Then suddenly, a small twin-engine
fighter — an Alpha Jet — came screaming
over the horizon. Radioed the position
of the Boko Haram fighters by the
unarmed plane — actually a King Air
350 surveillance aircraft — the Alpha Jet
unleashed a barrage of rockets on the
concealed ambush, followed by 250-
pound bombs and strafing runs.
The Toyotas were all destroyed and the
ambush force thrown into chaos.
Nigerian ground forces followed close
on the heels of the jet and chased off the
survivors. They counted 15 bodies and
two abandoned rocket-propelled
grenades.
This incident, as reported by Nigerian
air force Group Captain Ayodele
Famuyiwa, highlights the role of air
power in the struggle against the brutal
Boko Haram insurgency in northern
Nigeria.
In addition to the Alpha Jets, Hind
attack helicopters and F-7 fighters —
Chinese-built copies of the MiG-21 —
have taken part in the air campaign.
But the Alpha Jets, taken out of near-
retirement five years ago, also played in
important — and at times controversial
— role supporting Nigerian peacekeeping
troops in Liberia and Sierra Leone
during the 1990s.
This is the story of how a diminutive jet
trainer made its mark on West Africa.
A Franco-German collaboration
France and Germany jointly designed
the Alpha Jet in the 1970s to serve as a
two-seat jet trainer — the airplane
fighter pilots fly and practice firing
weapons with before they begin training
on combat aircraft.
The French Dassault and German
Dornier aviation companies were
interested in replacing American T-33
jet trainers — adapted Korean War-era
F-80 Shooting Stars — with an aircraft
of their own manufacture.
In the end, the Germans decided they’d
rather stick with American trainers —
but opted to produce the so-called Alpha
Jet as a light ground-attack plane. You
can tell the French Alpha-E Jets apart
by their more rounded nose, while the
German Alpha-As feature a needle-
sharp nose accommodating more
advanced avionics and sensors,
including a Doppler radar navigation
system.
The Alpha Jet entered service in 1978.
Eventually some 480 Alpha Jets were
sold to 13 countries. The 93 German
Alpha Jets retired in 1997, but the
nearly 100 French Alpha Jets continue
to serve as jet trainers.
The Alpha Jet has a reputation for
excellent low-speed handling and being
very forgiving for novice pilots — in
fact, the French air force’s only
complaint was that it was actually too
easy for trainees, who received a nasty
shock when they graduated to more
difficult-to-handle combat aircraft.
The small, lightweight jets — weighing
fewer than four tons empty — are
known for being highly maneuverable
and can fly as fast as 621 miles per
hour — faster than a typical airliner,
but slower than the speed of sound.
They can lug up to 5,500 pounds of
munitions on five hardpoints, including
precision-guided weapons like Maverick
anti-tank missiles or even heat-seeking
air-to-air missiles.
However, a more typical load would
include two SNEB unguided rocket pods,
each carrying 18 68-millimeter rockets
and two 250 pounds bombs. In addition,
Alpha Jets come with a 27- or 30-
millimeter revolver cannon that can
spit out 22 explosive shells a second.
Now, even with two extra fuel tanks, an
Alpha Jet loaded for battle has an
operational radius of only 380 miles
and lacks many modern electronic
systems.
However, Alpha Jets are very cheap and
easy to maintain compared to
sophisticated jet fighters — and when
fighting insurgents hiding in the bush,
they are nearly as effective.
How cheap? An Alpha Jet requires
seven hours of maintenance per flight
hour, compared to 19 for an F-16. In
1978, Alpha Jets sold for $4.5 million
each — equivalent to $14 million today.
Used Alpha Jets are considerably
cheaper — one is being advertised right
now for $950,000. This has led Alpha
Jets to be widely resold to both civilian
and military customers. Google even
owns one.
Most military Alpha Jets have been used
in their original intended role — as jet
trainers. The Moroccan air force,
however, employed some of theirs in its
war against the Polisario rebels in
Western Sahara.
It’s the Nigerian air force, however,
that has made the most combat use of
the type. Nigeria reportedly acquired its
initial 24 aircraft — nicknamed “A-Jets”
— from Germany, but additional
aircraft have been acquired over the
years. Most of those photographed
appear to be the French models.
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Peacekeeping air strikes
Nigeria is Africa’s most populous
country, with more than 180 million
inhabitants, and has long suffered from
tensions stemming from ethnic and
religious divisions. The Nigerian air
force is probably most famous for the
widely condemned bombing of the
Biafra secessionist state — the 1960s
equivalent of the conflict in Darfur.
However, in the 1990s the Nigerian
military embarked on a more defensible
mission, at least in theory — trying to
restore order to a Liberia torn apart by
Civil War as part of a West African
peacekeeping force called ECOMOG.
By 1990, the corrupt and brutal
Liberian government of Samuel Doe had
been nearly overthrown by two rebel
factions, the National Patriotic
Liberation Front led by Charles Taylor
and a splinter group called the
Independent NPLF.
Funded by the sale of diamond and
making wide scale use of child soldiers,
the two rebel groups descended on the
Liberian capital, Monrovia, in an orgy
of killing, kidnapping and rape.
In 1990, the English-speaking Western
African countries agreed to form a
roughly 3,000-man peacekeeping force
called ECOMOG to prevent the capital
from being seized by the rebels.
ECOMOG’s largest contingent consisted
of Nigerian troops. Up to 12,000
ECOMOG troops deployed at one point.
Things did not begin auspiciously when
Doe visited ECOMOG’s new headquarters
to register a complaint. While there, he
was kidnapped by INPFL soldiers, and
videotaped being tortured to death while
their leader, Prince Johnson, drank a
beer and watched.
Unlike a typical peacekeeping force,
ECOMOG had to militarily subdue the
rampaging NPFL first before it could try
to organize a peaceful political
settlement. In the last four months of
1990, a detachment four Alpha Jets
hammered rebel enemy gun
emplacements and supply convoys at
Robertsfield International Airport and
Charles Taylor’s headquarters in
Kakata, forcing him to move his base.
Later, ships running guns for Taylor
were sunk in the seaport of Buchanan.
“The firepower of NAF fighter aircraft
has finally dealt an incalculable blow to
the war effort of the NPFL leader,” Time
reported.
In October 1992, after a year and half
of sporadic negotiations, Taylor
launched a massive new assault on
Monrovia. A detachment of six NAF
Alpha Jets flew over a thousand
missions in response, employing Beluga
cluster bombs — a 628-pound munition
that disperses 152 small bomblets by
parachute.
Lethal against troops in the open,
cluster munitions are now banned by
convention in Nigeria because of their
tendency to leave behind unexploded
mini-bomblets long after hostilities
have ended.
The NAF’s search-and-destroy mission
were so effective in eliminating rebel
vehicles that the NPFL began attacking
at night. The Alpha Jet didn’t have
night-flying equipment, but the NAF
decided to give it a try anyway.
Experienced pilots flew several night
raids, fortunately without mishap.
The low-flying jets were reported by to
have chased and terrorized the civilian
population. “They say this is proving
Taylor was right, that ECOMOG is
coming to kill us,” one journalist said to
Africa Watch. Humanitarian relief
convoys and civilian crowds were
strafed and a food-storage warehouse in
Buchanan bombed. A team of Firestone
workers described their horror as an
air strike hit a group of children
playing soccer, killing 40.
“”This is a low-tech war, and they are
sloppy,” one journalist concluded.
ECOMOG contended that it did not
deliberately target civilians, but that the
NPFL used them as human shields — an
assertion backed up by independent
observers. ECOMOG troops, however,
were implicated in looting and humans
rights abuses.
The siege of Monrovia was ultimately
broken in the spring of 1993, and
ECOMOG forces went on the offensive
toward Buchanan. However, the
Nigerian troops needed to cross Saint
John’s River Bridge, which had already
been wired with explosives. Alpha Jets
were sent to strafe anyone trying to
detonate the explosives until ECOMOG
troops managed to cross the bridge.
From then on, the strikes planes were
involved interdicting the NPFL supply
convoys and sank six of the group’s
cargo ships. An air strike even took out
a captured Nigerian ZSU-23 quad-barrel
anti-aircraft tank. Several aircraft were
damaged by anti-aircraft fire during the
campaign but Nigerian sources state
that none were shot down.
ECOMOG’s efforts culminated in an
election in 1997 — which Charles Taylor
overwhelmingly won. Six years later,
another rebel army brought Taylor’s
government to its knees. A second
African peacekeeping force finally
succeeded in installing a democratic
government, which has kept the peace
to this day under the first female head
of state in Africa, Ellen Sirleaf Johnson.
In 1992, the civil war in Liberia spilled
over into neighboring Sierra Leone
when one of Taylor’s commanders,
Foday Sankoh — a.k.a. “General
Moskito” — led a force of 3,000 fighters
called the Revolutionary United Front to
invade weakly-governed Sierra Leone.
The Sierra Leone army rapidly lost
control of the country — and its soldiers
began to act almost as brutally towards
the civilian population as the rebels
did.
Sierra Leone soon resembled the
wasteland of Mad Max , minus the
protagonists. Charismatic and
monstrous warlords with names such
as General Warboss III and Betty Cut
Hands led bands of drug-addled child
soldiers in a rampage of looting,
murder, rape, cannibalism and
mutilation with little apparent
ideological motivation. They did make
sure to capture profitable diamond and
uranium mines.
ECOMOG was sent to intervene in the
conflict in 1994 — and like in Liberia, it
would achieve temporary military
successes, and then utterly fail to “win
the peace” leading to a resumption of
war. In 1995, two NAF Alpha Jets
detached to support the ECOMOG task
force.
They soon paired with a small South
African mercenary contingent —
Executive Outcomes — which led a
counteroffensive to recapture the
uranium mines. The Alpha Jets, along
with mercenary Hind helicopter
gunships, pounded RUF positions with
bombs and rockets until they began to
flee — into the teeth of ground-based
ambush parties of tribal Kamajor
fighters.
The offensive succeeded in driving the
RUF from the country and led to the
Abidjan peace accords in 1996.
Unfortunately, coups and corruption
from within led to the resumption of
fighting. In 1997, the NAF is accused of
having dropped cluster bombs in
Kenema and the capital of Freetown.
In 1999 the RUF — now a group called
“the West Side Boys” — had overrun
Freetown in what was dubbed
“Operation No Living Thing.” More than
6,000 were killed and much of the city
burned down while rebel troops
perepetrated mass amputations of
civilians. 3,000 Nigerian troops
supported by two rocket-firing Alpha
Jets led a bloody counterassault that
succeeded in driving the rebels out of
the capital — at heavy cost.
During the campaign, 10 aircraft
sustained heavy damage from anti-
aircraft fire. Three Alpha jets were lost,
though all the crew survived. The cause
of the losses are unspecified, though at
least one is believed to have been shot
down.
Peace would not be secured for another
two years until the intervention of
Indian, British and Russian troops.
Air power against Boko Haram
The Nigerian Alpha Jets wouldn’t see
action again for more than a decade.
Many of them fell into poor condition
for lack of maintenance.
Unfortunately the winds of war were
blowing closer to home for the Nigerian
air force. In 2009, an Islamic
fundamentalist insurgency called Boko
Haram — which means “Western
education is forbidden” — emerged in
North Eastern Nigeria in the states of
Borno, Adamawa and Yobe.
Nigeria is marked by stark religious
divisions between the Islamic north and
Christian south. Boko Haram wishes to
institute Islamic law across the entire
country and bring an end to Western
influence on society.
Fueled by government corruption and
brutal military reprisals that resulted
in hundreds of innocent citizens being
tortured and killed by government
troops, the insurgency escalated its
violent attacks year after year,
employing terrorist bombings, guerrilla
warfare and large-scale raids on
villages and military bases, culminating
in the infamous 2014 Chibok raid in
which 276 schoolgirls were kidnapped
to serve as “wives” for Boko Haram
fighters.
The terror group also has made attacks
in Cameroon, Chad and Niger, and has
recently proclaimed a switch in
allegiances from Al Qaeda to ISIS.
In 2013, the Nigerian air force began to
take measures to refurbish 13 of its
Alpha Jets. Two were sent to Niamey,
Mali to support a multi-national
peacekeeping force there — but one
crashed fatally in an accident that May.
As Boko Haram seized control of more
villages, Pres. Goodluck Johnson
declared a state of emergency in the
North Eastern state. Alpha Jets based in
Yola and Maiduguri soon were flying
combat mission in their own country.
Deep in Boko Haram territory,
Maiduguri itself came under assault in
March 2014, and the A-Jets bombed
targets right next to their base. As Boko
Haram continued its offensive, Nigerian
troops were forced to withdraw from
the town of Bama on Sept. 1, 2014.
Alpha Jets again flew into battle to
recapture the town.
On Sept. 14, 2014, a lone Alpha Jet
flying out of Yola was shot down and
one of its pilots captured. Boko Haram
filmed their infamous leader Shekau —
frequently reported dead — mounted on
a machine gun-armed truck, then
showed pieces of wreckage. A surviving
pilot spoke briefly to the camera, before
a man cut off his head with an axe .
The Nigerian air force at first denied the
pilot’s identity, but he was later
confirmed to be Wing Commander
Chimda Hedima.
The Alpha Jet’s arsenal also may have
contributed to rebel attacks. ‘Bomblets’
stolen from Nigerian stockpiles of
Beluga cluster bombers may have been
given to young girls for them to serve as
suicide bombers. Nigeria has signed the
convention agreeing not to employ
cluster munitions, but has not yet
disposed of its stockpile. The Nigerian
army has claimed that the jets have hit
friendly ground troops — possibly
because of bad maps.
Alpha Jets of the Cameroonian Air Force
joined the fray in December 2014 with
air strikes against Boko Haram
militants that had overrun the
Cameroonian military base in
Assighasia. The attacks reportedly killed
41 insurgents and compelled the rest to
flee. Cameroon still operates 11 ground-
attack Alpha Jets out of an original 27
purchased.
In March 2015, Nigeria elected a new
president, Muhammadu Buhari, who set
in motion a new military campaign
against Boko Haram, forcing the
insurgents back into sanctuaries in
Sambisa Forest Reserve. In March 2016,
a multi-national African force moved in
to clear out the woods in Operation
Crackdown, supported by extensive air
strikes by Alpha Jets.
Another Alpha Jet crashed while
landing that same month. Both crew
survived, but it is not clear if the
aircraft is recoverable.
Tragically, air strikes targeting Boko
Haram were also liable to hit hostages
and abductees. One 15-year old girl
recounted being kept as a prisoner in a
school repurposed as a base by Boko
Haram in Sambisa forest.
“They hurriedly chased us out with canes
as military jets flew overhead,” the girl
said. “Bombs just started dropping from
the sky, and the school buildings caught
fire. Many of us, including my three
year-old sister, were badly injured. She
died within a few hours.”
Operation Crackdown succeeded in
driving Boko Haram from Sambisa
Forest, and a new campaign called
Operation Gama Aiki — “See it Through”
in the Hausa language common in
northern Nigeria — sought to push the
fighters northward against the shores of
Lake Chad.
Three Alpha Jets and three F-7 fighters
have been assigned to provide ground
support for the ongoing operation,
leading to the attack described at the
beginning of this article.
Meanwhile, the United States approved
the transfer of four unarmed Alpha Jets
to the Nigerian air force in 2015, and a
fifth may have been received this June.
The Nigerian air force set about jerry-
rigging onto two of the jet trainers its
own weapons hardpoints capable of
holding bombs or rocket pods.
Reportedly, the modifications cost just
four million Nigerian naira — roughly
$13,000. Some reports state a sum as
low as $2,000. Given typical military
equipment costs, this stands as a
remarkable achievement. Foreign
companies had requested up to $30,000
just to assess the cost of doing the refit.
A Nigerian car manufacturer, Innoson,
has also been contracted to produce
spare parts for the NAF to keep the old
aircraft flying.
Nigeria has requested approval to buy
new A-29 Tucano counter-insurgency
propeller planes to replace its aging
Alpha Jet fleet. However, a U.S. law
known as the Leahy Amendment
prohibits the transfer of military
equipment to military units responsible
for human-rights violations.
Backers of the Leahy Amendment have
opposed the sale on the grounds that
the Nigerian military has done too little
to reform its human-rights practices.
Boko Haram has displaced more than a
million people and killed at least 10,000
others.
The Nigerian government has declared
that Boko Haram is “technically
defeated.” Most experts are skeptical.
Undeniably, substantial military
progress has been made by Nigerian and
its allied African troops. If that military
progress doesn’t lead to real political
and economic reforms, however,
northeastern Nigeria risks succumbing
to long-lasting conflict just like Liberia
and Sierra Leone did under ECOMOG.
The Alpha Jet has proven to be a cost-
efficient weapon when employed in
counter-insurgency warfare, if not
always a discriminate one.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:33pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Guinean APC in Mali |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Sizzorkay: 10:35pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Tinfoil:
Does anyone have any opinion on whether any African country can either deter or defend itself from aggression from a first world country?Like one from Europe? Oh man, lots European countries are small and don't have much militarypower, there is a reason they have NATO, that's putting all their military resources together and fight as one. militarily speaking, on a one on one basis without NATO? Countries like Algeria, Egypt, South Africa, Morocco, Nigeria, Ethiopia can defeat lots of EU countries. And not every country in the EU is first world either, don't fall for that rubbish 7 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 10:46pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
lionel4power:
Bio weapons falls under the Chemical Weapons Convention ( CWC ) . As of April 2016, 192 states have given their consent to be bound by the CWC. Israel has signed but not ratified the agreement, while three other UN member states (Egypt, North Korea and South Sudan) have neither signed nor acceded to the treaty.
. Most recently, Angola deposited its instrument of accession to the CWC on 16 September 2015.
. As of October 2016, about 93% of the world's declared stockpile of chemical weapons had been destroyed.
. if you use chemical or bio weapons on anybody the wrait of the UN that will fall on you will be so great that you would wish you used nukes instead. by the way weaponising it is as complex as developing nukes.
. also forget what we watch in movies, bio weapons are not usually fast acting, if you deploy a bio weapon today, before it spreads to alarming proportion could take months if not years. it cannot be used tactically. I assure you that the same countries that created that convention are the ones that are CURRENTLY engaged in developing them at this time. Please don't tell me you are that naïve. Why do you think so many countries responded to the Ebola epidemic. Am sure you know how useless the UN is in reality it only applies to countries that don't have a vote in the security council. http://www.unog.ch/80256EE600585943/(httpPages)/7BE6CBBEA0477B52C12571860035FD5C?OpenDocument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_programhttp://time.com/91820/russia-putin-congress-biological-weapons/ |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:49pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
MikeCZA: Denel dynamics' (then Kentron) LRAAM. Note: Air breathing device tested.
This would have raised the bar in AAMs anyway the water has long passed the bridge. Was this in the range of the Soviet S-200 or 300? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:53pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
An AK-47 upgrade kit by Rippel Effect.. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 11:03pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Henry240: AMISOM, Somalia
Nigeria Police
AMISOM Chief Of Staff, from the Nigerian police addressing new IPOs from Ghana and Kenya. Is Rex DunDun still in Somalia? He was home like 2 weeks ago. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 12:10am On Mar 27, 2017 |
giles14: say I get am before no be property. we also once had 18 Jaguar jet, and 25+ mig 21 interceptors Yeah, Im only counting one type of platform. Need me to add Impala's, Buccanears etc? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 12:11am On Mar 27, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Sizzorkay: 12:27am On Mar 27, 2017 |
Why can't we just be civil to one another? Seriously? This is pathetic 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Hrmnn: 12:53am On Mar 27, 2017 |
ActivateKruger:
90 percent? Where are you getting the stats from?
Hundreds of IFVs and APCs we field are made locally, we're almost self sufficient on land forces. The sea and air platforms don't even equate for 40 percent of the total platforms and they're also supplemented by locally built strategic defence sub-systems.
We may not win a pound-to-pound war against France, Britain and Germany BUT they can't defeat and occupy us, they'll need millions of soldiers to do that. Ever read Vortex? It takes the combined might of Cuba, Libya, the rest of Southern Africa, the US and the U.K. to militarily subdue the Saffers, and only then after enormous casualties. Smashing novel. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 1:44am On Mar 27, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Vikkie14: 2:02am On Mar 27, 2017 |
Four pages wasted on arguments.
The same arguments that characterised Who has the strongest military in Africa thread.
NIGERIANs and SOUTH AFRICANs, they are "never" at peace, they always maintain a posture of war.
To the Southies and the Nigerians(i inclusive), everything you guys are boasting of, won't cost the Egyptians sweat to wipe off in an actual battle.
Remember, that where country A Power ends, may be where country F Power starts. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nicheey(m): 2:37am On Mar 27, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nicheey(m): 2:40am On Mar 27, 2017 |
tdayof:
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:59am On Mar 27, 2017 |
lionel4power: Egypt, Algeria, South Africa can defend against ANY European country on their soil.
. anything short of using NUKES I can categorically tell you that France will beat the South Africans in their airspace, coast and home soil anytime, any day. France has the most sophisticated and best trained military in Europe. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 4:23am On Mar 27, 2017 |
Nicheey:
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gamargu(m): 4:29am On Mar 27, 2017 |
TrueHeart365: it's funny that Nigerians are being decieved that we have the infrastructure to counter a conventional air threat.
we are just lucky to be surrounded by poor countries.
dropping bombs on insurgents with zero air defence capabilities is totally different from fighting a conventional air threat.
hate to break it to you but for the sake of passing the right info to those who actually are here to learn, our rolands(God knows if they still function) that haven't seen recent upgrade, our outdated ARADU(if not stripped already) and manpads is not worth bragging about. a decent airforce with 4th generation aircrafts will stroll in our airspace with ease.
only few countries in africa can brag of adequate air defence systems and SA and Nigeria are none
but here, who wants the truth when we can keep decieving ourselves and laugh over it. The reality of the matter is that Nigeria has little to no air defense systems like you said our rolands are outdated and we have no other air defense systems. All we have are anti aircraft guns and no missile systems when it comes to war even a small European nation will defeat our so called air defense. I would say in Africa only algeria and egypt should be bragging about having good air defense , egypt in particular have the best air defense network in africa 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 4:38am On Mar 27, 2017 |
ActivateKruger:
Was this in the range of the Soviet S-200 or 300? Air to Air! |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 6:42am On Mar 27, 2017 |
NaijaTalkTown: I can categorically tell you that France will beat the South Africans in their airspace, coast and home soil anytime, any day. France has the most sophisticated and best trained military in Europe. Sea and air, but they'll have to work first... However on the ground it's would be something else. The distance from the coast to Pretoria would be a bloody graveyard. We would simply revive the South African Commando System overnight then that would add around over million militia (using their own small weapons) to stage an unconventional war. An invading force would have to capture hundreds of towns and townships (to defeat hundreds of commando units) and as I said that would need a million soldiers or more with stunning logistics which no European country has. Keep in mind that no human war has ever been staged on cities that are as big as the South African ones. There's no known doctrine on how to capture and control one. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:02am On Mar 27, 2017 |
guys can some one put the south african air defense systems ?? very difficult to find infos about south african SAM and radars .
- from wiki : manpads Starstreak , autocannon 23 mm , Umkhonto surface to air version (still under devlepment) , |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 8:28am On Mar 27, 2017 |
chkil0: guys can some one put the south african air defense systems ?? very difficult to find infos .
- from wiki : manpads Starstreak , autocannon 23 mm , Umkhonto surface to air version (still under devlepment) ,
That's pretty much it.. There's no long or medium range air defence. The threat assessment doesn't require we set up one. Our immediate neighbors don't pose any air threat. However, if budgets were not cut in the 90s (and development projects abandoned) we would be having something else. 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 8:49am On Mar 27, 2017 |
chkil0: guys can some one put the south african air defense systems ?? very difficult to find infos about south african SAM and radars .
- from wiki : manpads Starstreak , autocannon 23 mm , Umkhonto surface to air version (still under devlepment) ,
The only American system SA has ever acquired from the US since 94 are guided bomb kits. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:18am On Mar 27, 2017 |
old model of S-125 Pechora 2M [SA-3 Goa] exposed in public show 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:36am On Mar 27, 2017 |
MikeCZA: The only American system SA has ever acquired from the US since 94 are guided bomb kits. These don't count as they fell off the back of a truck . 3 Likes |