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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:17pm On Mar 26, 2017
giles14:
are u sure?
last I checked 90% of their weapons are from European countries.

u can ask Argentina how useless their weapons became wen France choice to help GB with some weapon secret.

90 percent? Where are you getting the stats from?

Hundreds of IFVs and APCs we field are made locally, we're almost self sufficient on land forces. The sea and air platforms don't even equate for 40 percent of the total platforms and they're also supplemented by locally built strategic defence sub-systems.

We may not win a pound-to-pound war against France, Britain and Germany BUT they can't defeat and occupy us, they'll need millions of soldiers to do that.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 10:19pm On Mar 26, 2017
assuming Boko haram manages to secure one SCUD surface to surface missile from libyan stockpile and manage to transport it through porous Chad or Niger down to our borders What will be Nigerias response?

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knowing that libya once operated hundreds of SCUD B which has a range of about 300km (that's alot of distance). the media outcome will be astronomical to say the least.


.HAS ANYBODY EVER THOUGHT OF THAT?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:24pm On Mar 26, 2017
Nigerian Police officers on Patrol in Timbuktu, Mali

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:25pm On Mar 26, 2017
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:26pm On Mar 26, 2017
Nigerian Navy

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:27pm On Mar 26, 2017
Nigerian Navy CQC drill

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 10:27pm On Mar 26, 2017
Denel dynamics' (then Kentron) LRAAM. Note: Air breathing device tested.

This would have raised the bar in AAMs anyway the water has long passed the bridge.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 10:29pm On Mar 26, 2017
lionel4power:




Nigeria’s Tiny, Low- Tech Alpha Jets Have Flown in Brutal Wars Across Africa Now the former training jets are blasting Boko Haram by SEBASTIEN ROBLIN On the morning of June 19, 2016, seven Toyota Hilux trucks manned by Boko Haram fighters lay in wait near Daira Noro, Borno State in northeastern Nigeria. Members of a fundamentalist insurgency infamous for its terrorist attacks and kidnappings of young girls, the fighters had recently been chased out of their camps in Sambisa forest by an African multi-national task force. As the African forces advanced north in pursuit, the Boko Haram fighters had prepared a road-side ambush under tree cover. Two of their trucks were armed with heavy machine guns. The distant whine of small airplane engines sounded overhead. An unarmed civilian plane flew by. Then suddenly, a small twin-engine fighter — an Alpha Jet — came screaming over the horizon. Radioed the position of the Boko Haram fighters by the unarmed plane — actually a King Air 350 surveillance aircraft — the Alpha Jet unleashed a barrage of rockets on the concealed ambush, followed by 250- pound bombs and strafing runs. The Toyotas were all destroyed and the ambush force thrown into chaos. Nigerian ground forces followed close on the heels of the jet and chased off the survivors. They counted 15 bodies and two abandoned rocket-propelled grenades. This incident, as reported by Nigerian air force Group Captain Ayodele Famuyiwa, highlights the role of air power in the struggle against the brutal Boko Haram insurgency in northern Nigeria. In addition to the Alpha Jets, Hind attack helicopters and F-7 fighters —  Chinese-built copies of the MiG-21 —  have taken part in the air campaign. But the Alpha Jets, taken out of near- retirement five years ago, also played in important — and at times controversial  — role supporting Nigerian peacekeeping troops in Liberia and Sierra Leone during the 1990s. This is the story of how a diminutive jet trainer made its mark on West Africa. A Franco-German collaboration France and Germany jointly designed the Alpha Jet in the 1970s to serve as a two-seat jet trainer — the airplane fighter pilots fly and practice firing weapons with before they begin training on combat aircraft. The French Dassault and German Dornier aviation companies were interested in replacing American T-33 jet trainers — adapted Korean War-era F-80 Shooting Stars — with an aircraft of their own manufacture. In the end, the Germans decided they’d rather stick with American trainers —  but opted to produce the so-called Alpha Jet as a light ground-attack plane. You can tell the French Alpha-E Jets apart by their more rounded nose, while the German Alpha-As feature a needle- sharp nose accommodating more advanced avionics and sensors, including a Doppler radar navigation system. The Alpha Jet entered service in 1978. Eventually some 480 Alpha Jets were sold to 13 countries. The 93 German Alpha Jets retired in 1997, but the nearly 100 French Alpha Jets continue to serve as jet trainers. The Alpha Jet has a reputation for excellent low-speed handling and being very forgiving for novice pilots — in fact, the French air force’s only complaint was that it was actually too easy for trainees, who received a nasty shock when they graduated to more difficult-to-handle combat aircraft. The small, lightweight jets — weighing fewer than four tons empty — are known for being highly maneuverable and can fly as fast as 621 miles per hour — faster than a typical airliner, but slower than the speed of sound. They can lug up to 5,500 pounds of munitions on five hardpoints, including precision-guided weapons like Maverick anti-tank missiles or even heat-seeking air-to-air missiles. However, a more typical load would include two SNEB unguided rocket pods, each carrying 18 68-millimeter rockets and two 250 pounds bombs. In addition, Alpha Jets come with a 27- or 30- millimeter revolver cannon that can spit out 22 explosive shells a second. Now, even with two extra fuel tanks, an Alpha Jet loaded for battle has an operational radius of only 380 miles and lacks many modern electronic systems. However, Alpha Jets are very cheap and easy to maintain compared to sophisticated jet fighters — and when fighting insurgents hiding in the bush, they are nearly as effective. How cheap? An Alpha Jet requires seven hours of maintenance per flight hour, compared to 19 for an F-16. In 1978, Alpha Jets sold for $4.5 million each — equivalent to $14 million today. Used Alpha Jets are considerably cheaper — one is being advertised right now for $950,000. This has led Alpha Jets to be widely resold to both civilian and military customers. Google even owns one. Most military Alpha Jets have been used in their original intended role — as jet trainers. The Moroccan air force, however, employed some of theirs in its war against the Polisario rebels in Western Sahara. It’s the Nigerian air force, however, that has made the most combat use of the type. Nigeria reportedly acquired its initial 24 aircraft — nicknamed “A-Jets”  — from Germany, but additional aircraft have been acquired over the years. Most of those photographed appear to be the French models. In 1987, a Secret Iraqi Warplane Struck an American Frigate and Killed 37 Sailors It wasn’t a Mirage F.1 that hit USS ‘Stark’ warisboring.com Peacekeeping air strikes Nigeria is Africa’s most populous country, with more than 180 million inhabitants, and has long suffered from tensions stemming from ethnic and religious divisions. The Nigerian air force is probably most famous for the widely condemned bombing of the Biafra secessionist state — the 1960s equivalent of the conflict in Darfur. However, in the 1990s the Nigerian military embarked on a more defensible mission, at least in theory — trying to restore order to a Liberia torn apart by Civil War as part of a West African peacekeeping force called ECOMOG. By 1990, the corrupt and brutal Liberian government of Samuel Doe had been nearly overthrown by two rebel factions, the National Patriotic Liberation Front led by Charles Taylor and a splinter group called the Independent NPLF. Funded by the sale of diamond and making wide scale use of child soldiers, the two rebel groups descended on the Liberian capital, Monrovia, in an orgy of killing, kidnapping and rape. In 1990, the English-speaking Western African countries agreed to form a roughly 3,000-man peacekeeping force called ECOMOG to prevent the capital from being seized by the rebels. ECOMOG’s largest contingent consisted of Nigerian troops. Up to 12,000 ECOMOG troops deployed at one point. Things did not begin auspiciously when Doe visited ECOMOG’s new headquarters to register a complaint. While there, he was kidnapped by INPFL soldiers, and videotaped being tortured to death while their leader, Prince Johnson, drank a beer and watched. Unlike a typical peacekeeping force, ECOMOG had to militarily subdue the rampaging NPFL first before it could try to organize a peaceful political settlement. In the last four months of 1990, a detachment four Alpha Jets hammered rebel enemy gun emplacements and supply convoys at Robertsfield International Airport and Charles Taylor’s headquarters in Kakata, forcing him to move his base. Later, ships running guns for Taylor were sunk in the seaport of Buchanan. “The firepower of NAF fighter aircraft has finally dealt an incalculable blow to the war effort of the NPFL leader,” Time reported. In October 1992, after a year and half of sporadic negotiations, Taylor launched a massive new assault on Monrovia. A detachment of six NAF Alpha Jets flew over a thousand missions in response, employing Beluga cluster bombs — a 628-pound munition that disperses 152 small bomblets by parachute. Lethal against troops in the open, cluster munitions are now banned by convention in Nigeria because of their tendency to leave behind unexploded mini-bomblets long after hostilities have ended. The NAF’s search-and-destroy mission were so effective in eliminating rebel vehicles that the NPFL began attacking at night. The Alpha Jet didn’t have night-flying equipment, but the NAF decided to give it a try anyway. Experienced pilots flew several night raids, fortunately without mishap. The low-flying jets were reported by to have chased and terrorized the civilian population. “They say this is proving Taylor was right, that ECOMOG is coming to kill us,” one journalist said to Africa Watch. Humanitarian relief convoys and civilian crowds were strafed and a food-storage warehouse in Buchanan bombed. A team of Firestone workers described their horror as an air strike hit a group of children playing soccer, killing 40. “”This is a low-tech war, and they are sloppy,” one journalist concluded. ECOMOG contended that it did not deliberately target civilians, but that the NPFL used them as human shields — an assertion backed up by independent observers. ECOMOG troops, however, were implicated in looting and humans rights abuses. The siege of Monrovia was ultimately broken in the spring of 1993, and ECOMOG forces went on the offensive toward Buchanan. However, the Nigerian troops needed to cross Saint John’s River Bridge, which had already been wired with explosives. Alpha Jets were sent to strafe anyone trying to detonate the explosives until ECOMOG troops managed to cross the bridge. From then on, the strikes planes were involved interdicting the NPFL supply convoys and sank six of the group’s cargo ships. An air strike even took out a captured Nigerian ZSU-23 quad-barrel anti-aircraft tank. Several aircraft were damaged by anti-aircraft fire during the campaign but Nigerian sources state that none were shot down. ECOMOG’s efforts culminated in an election in 1997 — which Charles Taylor overwhelmingly won. Six years later, another rebel army brought Taylor’s government to its knees. A second African peacekeeping force finally succeeded in installing a democratic government, which has kept the peace to this day under the first female head of state in Africa, Ellen Sirleaf Johnson. In 1992, the civil war in Liberia spilled over into neighboring Sierra Leone when one of Taylor’s commanders, Foday Sankoh — a.k.a. “General Moskito” — led a force of 3,000 fighters called the Revolutionary United Front to invade weakly-governed Sierra Leone. The Sierra Leone army rapidly lost control of the country — and its soldiers began to act almost as brutally towards the civilian population as the rebels did. Sierra Leone soon resembled the wasteland of Mad Max , minus the protagonists. Charismatic and monstrous warlords with names such as General Warboss III and Betty Cut Hands led bands of drug-addled child soldiers in a rampage of looting, murder, rape, cannibalism and mutilation with little apparent ideological motivation. They did make sure to capture profitable diamond and uranium mines. ECOMOG was sent to intervene in the conflict in 1994 — and like in Liberia, it would achieve temporary military successes, and then utterly fail to “win the peace” leading to a resumption of war. In 1995, two NAF Alpha Jets detached to support the ECOMOG task force. They soon paired with a small South African mercenary contingent —  Executive Outcomes — which led a counteroffensive to recapture the uranium mines. The Alpha Jets, along with mercenary Hind helicopter gunships, pounded RUF positions with bombs and rockets until they began to flee — into the teeth of ground-based ambush parties of tribal Kamajor fighters. The offensive succeeded in driving the RUF from the country and led to the Abidjan peace accords in 1996. Unfortunately, coups and corruption from within led to the resumption of fighting. In 1997, the NAF is accused of having dropped cluster bombs in Kenema and the capital of Freetown. In 1999 the RUF — now a group called “the West Side Boys” — had overrun Freetown in what was dubbed “Operation No Living Thing.” More than 6,000 were killed and much of the city burned down while rebel troops perepetrated mass amputations of civilians. 3,000 Nigerian troops supported by two rocket-firing Alpha Jets led a bloody counterassault that succeeded in driving the rebels out of the capital — at heavy cost. During the campaign, 10 aircraft sustained heavy damage from anti- aircraft fire. Three Alpha jets were lost, though all the crew survived. The cause of the losses are unspecified, though at least one is believed to have been shot down. Peace would not be secured for another two years until the intervention of Indian, British and Russian troops. Air power against Boko Haram The Nigerian Alpha Jets wouldn’t see action again for more than a decade. Many of them fell into poor condition for lack of maintenance. Unfortunately the winds of war were blowing closer to home for the Nigerian air force. In 2009, an Islamic fundamentalist insurgency called Boko Haram — which means “Western education is forbidden” — emerged in North Eastern Nigeria in the states of Borno, Adamawa and Yobe. Nigeria is marked by stark religious divisions between the Islamic north and Christian south. Boko Haram wishes to institute Islamic law across the entire country and bring an end to Western influence on society. Fueled by government corruption and brutal military reprisals that resulted in hundreds of innocent citizens being tortured and killed by government troops, the insurgency escalated its violent attacks year after year, employing terrorist bombings, guerrilla warfare and large-scale raids on villages and military bases, culminating in the infamous 2014 Chibok raid in which 276 schoolgirls were kidnapped to serve as “wives” for Boko Haram fighters. The terror group also has made attacks in Cameroon, Chad and Niger, and has recently proclaimed a switch in allegiances from Al Qaeda to ISIS. In 2013, the Nigerian air force began to take measures to refurbish 13 of its Alpha Jets. Two were sent to Niamey, Mali to support a multi-national peacekeeping force there — but one crashed fatally in an accident that May. As Boko Haram seized control of more villages, Pres. Goodluck Johnson declared a state of emergency in the North Eastern state. Alpha Jets based in Yola and Maiduguri soon were flying combat mission in their own country. Deep in Boko Haram territory, Maiduguri itself came under assault in March 2014, and the A-Jets bombed targets right next to their base. As Boko Haram continued its offensive, Nigerian troops were forced to withdraw from the town of Bama on Sept. 1, 2014. Alpha Jets again flew into battle to recapture the town. On Sept. 14, 2014, a lone Alpha Jet flying out of Yola was shot down and one of its pilots captured. Boko Haram filmed their infamous leader Shekau —  frequently reported dead — mounted on a machine gun-armed truck, then showed pieces of wreckage. A surviving pilot spoke briefly to the camera, before a man cut off his head with an axe . The Nigerian air force at first denied the pilot’s identity, but he was later confirmed to be Wing Commander Chimda Hedima. The Alpha Jet’s arsenal also may have contributed to rebel attacks. ‘Bomblets’ stolen from Nigerian stockpiles of Beluga cluster bombers may have been given to young girls for them to serve as suicide bombers. Nigeria has signed the convention agreeing not to employ cluster munitions, but has not yet disposed of its stockpile. The Nigerian army has claimed that the jets have hit friendly ground troops — possibly because of bad maps. Alpha Jets of the Cameroonian Air Force joined the fray in December 2014 with air strikes against Boko Haram militants that had overrun the Cameroonian military base in Assighasia. The attacks reportedly killed 41 insurgents and compelled the rest to flee. Cameroon still operates 11 ground- attack Alpha Jets out of an original 27 purchased. In March 2015, Nigeria elected a new president, Muhammadu Buhari, who set in motion a new military campaign against Boko Haram, forcing the insurgents back into sanctuaries in Sambisa Forest Reserve. In March 2016, a multi-national African force moved in to clear out the woods in Operation Crackdown, supported by extensive air strikes by Alpha Jets. Another Alpha Jet crashed while landing that same month. Both crew survived, but it is not clear if the aircraft is recoverable. Tragically, air strikes targeting Boko Haram were also liable to hit hostages and abductees. One 15-year old girl recounted being kept as a prisoner in a school repurposed as a base by Boko Haram in Sambisa forest. “They hurriedly chased us out with canes as military jets flew overhead,” the girl said. “Bombs just started dropping from the sky, and the school buildings caught fire. Many of us, including my three year-old sister, were badly injured. She died within a few hours.” Operation Crackdown succeeded in driving Boko Haram from Sambisa Forest, and a new campaign called Operation Gama Aiki — “See it Through” in the Hausa language common in northern Nigeria — sought to push the fighters northward against the shores of Lake Chad. Three Alpha Jets and three F-7 fighters have been assigned to provide ground support for the ongoing operation, leading to the attack described at the beginning of this article. Meanwhile, the United States approved the transfer of four unarmed Alpha Jets to the Nigerian air force in 2015, and a fifth may have been received this June. The Nigerian air force set about jerry- rigging onto two of the jet trainers its own weapons hardpoints capable of holding bombs or rocket pods. Reportedly, the modifications cost just four million Nigerian naira — roughly $13,000. Some reports state a sum as low as $2,000. Given typical military equipment costs, this stands as a remarkable achievement. Foreign companies had requested up to $30,000 just to assess the cost of doing the refit. A Nigerian car manufacturer, Innoson, has also been contracted to produce spare parts for the NAF to keep the old aircraft flying.

Nigeria has requested approval to buy new A-29 Tucano counter-insurgency propeller planes to replace its aging Alpha Jet fleet. However, a U.S. law known as the Leahy Amendment prohibits the transfer of military equipment to military units responsible for human-rights violations. Backers of the Leahy Amendment have opposed the sale on the grounds that the Nigerian military has done too little to reform its human-rights practices. Boko Haram has displaced more than a million people and killed at least 10,000 others. The Nigerian government has declared that Boko Haram is “technically defeated.” Most experts are skeptical. Undeniably, substantial military progress has been made by Nigerian and its allied African troops. If that military progress doesn’t lead to real political and economic reforms, however, northeastern Nigeria risks succumbing to long-lasting conflict just like Liberia and Sierra Leone did under ECOMOG. The Alpha Jet has proven to be a cost- efficient weapon when employed in counter-insurgency warfare, if not always a discriminate one.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:33pm On Mar 26, 2017
Guinean APC in Mali

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Sizzorkay: 10:35pm On Mar 26, 2017
Tinfoil:



Does anyone have any opinion on whether any African country can either deter or defend itself from aggression from a first world country?Like one from Europe?

Oh man, lots European countries are small and don't have much militarypower, there is a reason they have NATO, that's putting all their military resources together and fight as one.
militarily speaking, on a one on one basis without NATO? Countries like Algeria, Egypt, South Africa, Morocco, Nigeria, Ethiopia can defeat lots of EU countries.
And not every country in the EU is first world either, don't fall for that rubbish

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 10:46pm On Mar 26, 2017
lionel4power:

Bio weapons falls under the Chemical Weapons
Convention ( CWC )
.
As of April 2016, 192 states have
given their consent to be bound
by the CWC. Israel has signed
but not ratified the agreement,
while three other UN member
states (Egypt, North Korea and
South Sudan) have neither
signed nor acceded to the
treaty.


.
Most recently,
Angola deposited its instrument
of accession to the CWC on 16
September 2015.

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As of October 2016, about 93%
of the world's declared stockpile
of chemical weapons had been
destroyed.



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if you use chemical or bio weapons on anybody the wrait of the UN that will fall on you will be so great that you would wish you used nukes instead. by the way weaponising it is as complex as developing nukes.

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also forget what we watch in movies, bio weapons are not usually fast acting, if you deploy a bio weapon today, before it spreads to alarming proportion could take months if not years. it cannot be used tactically.

I assure you that the same countries that created that convention are the ones that are CURRENTLY engaged in developing them at this time. Please don't tell me you are that naïve. Why do you think so many countries responded to the Ebola epidemic. Am sure you know how useless the UN is in reality it only applies to countries that don't have a vote in the security council.

http://www.unog.ch/80256EE600585943/(httpPages)/7BE6CBBEA0477B52C12571860035FD5C?OpenDocument

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program

http://time.com/91820/russia-putin-congress-biological-weapons/
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:49pm On Mar 26, 2017
MikeCZA:
Denel dynamics' (then Kentron) LRAAM. Note: Air breathing device tested.

This would have raised the bar in AAMs anyway the water has long passed the bridge.

Was this in the range of the Soviet S-200 or 300?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:53pm On Mar 26, 2017
An AK-47 upgrade kit by Rippel Effect..

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 11:03pm On Mar 26, 2017
Henry240:
AMISOM, Somalia

Nigeria Police

AMISOM Chief Of Staff, from the Nigerian police addressing new IPOs from Ghana and Kenya.
Is Rex DunDun still in Somalia?
He was home like 2 weeks ago.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 12:10am On Mar 27, 2017
giles14:
say I get am before no be property.
we also once had 18 Jaguar jet, and 25+ mig 21 interceptors

Yeah, Im only counting one type of platform.

Need me to add Impala's, Buccanears etc?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 12:11am On Mar 27, 2017
Henry240:


The Nincompoop thinks I'm Agaugust. grin grin grin grin grin grin

Lol, you got wrecked and that your response!

hahahahahah

Pathetic
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Sizzorkay: 12:27am On Mar 27, 2017
Why can't we just be civil to one another? Seriously? This is pathetic

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Hrmnn: 12:53am On Mar 27, 2017
ActivateKruger:


90 percent? Where are you getting the stats from?

Hundreds of IFVs and APCs we field are made locally, we're almost self sufficient on land forces. The sea and air platforms don't even equate for 40 percent of the total platforms and they're also supplemented by locally built strategic defence sub-systems.

We may not win a pound-to-pound war against France, Britain and Germany BUT they can't defeat and occupy us, they'll need millions of soldiers to do that.

Ever read Vortex?

It takes the combined might of Cuba, Libya, the rest of Southern Africa, the US and the U.K. to militarily subdue the Saffers, and only then after enormous casualties.

Smashing novel. grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 1:44am On Mar 27, 2017
Nicheey:


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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Vikkie14: 2:02am On Mar 27, 2017
Four pages wasted on arguments.

The same arguments that characterised Who has the strongest military in Africa thread.

NIGERIANs and SOUTH AFRICANs, they are "never" at peace, they always maintain a posture of war.

To the Southies and the Nigerians(i inclusive), everything you guys are boasting of, won't cost the Egyptians sweat to wipe off in an actual battle.

Remember, that where country A Power ends, may be where country F Power starts.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nicheey(m): 2:37am On Mar 27, 2017
[quote author=tdayof post=54982410]
Hello, have you confirmed from your friend? [/quo


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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nicheey(m): 2:40am On Mar 27, 2017
tdayof:

Hello, have you confirmed from your friend?

uhmsorry didn't see this soonerand no I haven't cause I'm only seeing this nowI'll go over his house tomorrowdid you by any chance wired me moneyif you did thanks a millionthough I'm yet to confirmI'll send you pictures of the jamb tomorrow immediately I'm done via your mail to clear your suspicionAgain thank you
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:59am On Mar 27, 2017
lionel4power:
Egypt, Algeria, South Africa can defend against ANY European country on their soil.


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anything short of using NUKES
I can categorically tell you that France will beat the South Africans in their airspace, coast and home soil anytime, any day. France has the most sophisticated and best trained military in Europe.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 4:23am On Mar 27, 2017
Nicheey:


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No problem bro. Just asking so you can confirm.
..yes it has been sent. Sender starts from F and ends with I middle name starts with T and end with N.
Have a nice day bro and success in your exams.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gamargu(m): 4:29am On Mar 27, 2017
TrueHeart365:
it's funny that Nigerians are being decieved that we have the infrastructure to counter a conventional air threat.

we are just lucky to be surrounded by poor countries.

dropping bombs on insurgents with zero air defence capabilities is totally different from fighting a conventional air threat.

hate to break it to you but for the sake of passing the right info to those who actually are here to learn, our rolands(God knows if they still function) that haven't seen recent upgrade, our outdated ARADU(if not stripped already) and manpads is not worth bragging about. a decent airforce with 4th generation aircrafts will stroll in our airspace with ease.

only few countries in africa can brag of adequate air defence systems and SA and Nigeria are none

but here, who wants the truth when we can keep decieving ourselves and laugh over itgrin.
The reality of the matter is that Nigeria has little to no air defense systems like you said our rolands are outdated and we have no other air defense systems. All we have are anti aircraft guns and no missile systems when it comes to war even a small European nation will defeat our so called air defense.
I would say in Africa only algeria and egypt should be bragging about having good air defense , egypt in particular have the best air defense network in africa

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 4:38am On Mar 27, 2017
ActivateKruger:

Was this in the range of the Soviet S-200 or 300?
Air to Air!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 6:42am On Mar 27, 2017
NaijaTalkTown:
I can categorically tell you that France will beat the South Africans in their airspace, coast and home soil anytime, any day. France has the most sophisticated and best trained military in Europe.

Sea and air, but they'll have to work first... However on the ground it's would be something else. The distance from the coast to Pretoria would be a bloody graveyard. We would simply revive the South African Commando System overnight then that would add around over million militia (using their own small weapons) to stage an unconventional war.


An invading force would have to capture hundreds of towns and townships (to defeat hundreds of commando units) and as I said that would need a million soldiers or more with stunning logistics which no European country has.


Keep in mind that no human war has ever been staged on cities that are as big as the South African ones. There's no known doctrine on how to capture and control one.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:02am On Mar 27, 2017
guys can some one put the south african air defense systems ?? very difficult to find infos about south african SAM and radars .

- from wiki : manpads Starstreak , autocannon 23 mm , Umkhonto surface to air version (still under devlepment) ,
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 8:28am On Mar 27, 2017
chkil0:
guys can some one put the south african air defense systems ?? very difficult to find infos .

- from wiki : manpads Starstreak , autocannon 23 mm , Umkhonto surface to air version (still under devlepment) ,


That's pretty much it..


There's no long or medium range air defence. The threat assessment doesn't require we set up one. Our immediate neighbors don't pose any air threat.

However, if budgets were not cut in the 90s (and development projects abandoned) we would be having something else.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 8:49am On Mar 27, 2017
chkil0:
guys can some one put the south african air defense systems ?? very difficult to find infos about south african SAM and radars .

- from wiki : manpads Starstreak , autocannon 23 mm , Umkhonto surface to air version (still under devlepment) ,



The only American system SA has ever acquired from the US since 94 are guided bomb kits.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:18am On Mar 27, 2017
old model of S-125 Pechora 2M [SA-3 Goa] exposed in public show

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:36am On Mar 27, 2017
MikeCZA:
The only American system SA has ever acquired from the US since 94 are guided bomb kits.

These don't count as they fell off the back of a truck wink.

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