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Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Horus(m): 4:26pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Moors Heads; Heraldry and Crests of Europe (Influence of African Moors on European Civilization) Source: http://originalpeople.org/moors-heads-heraldry-and-crests-of-europe-influence-of-african-moors-on-european-civilization/ 1 Like |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by LordAdam16: 4:26pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
MrMaestro: You just typed nonsense. I said African history is irrelevant until there is development. And I supported my opinion with facts. Maybe you should read the facts before you rant without focus. When did the Egyptian people build their pyramids. Is it not after they had already built their empire? Did they build their pyramids and populate their libraries before they were a strong civilization? You lots are incorrigible. Do you think many random Europeans know two much about Emperor Augustus. It's in the history books but nominal people don't always have the time to read. To show them they are a powerful people, they develop. Then have these pockets of history emblazoned in multi-million dollar Museums and Gallerias for viewing and amassed public libraries with more information for those who want to learn more. Tell me do we have anything like that to show case African history. Abi is it the dilapidated under funded scant museums that you want to use. Or do you think the average working family man has the time to read through hundreds of pages on a forgotten site on the Internet. Always putting the cart before the horse. It's no surprise that 100 years from now your descendants will still be arguing about African supremacy while the Whites are colonizing Mars. Black supremacy my foot. -Lord 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Nobody: 4:27pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordAdam16:the LordAdam, you've been out of sight for a while now. Good to have you back man. |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Rosskii: 4:32pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Nowenuse:I'm in! 3 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by LordAdam16: 4:34pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Nowenuse: Oga there is a sharp difference between achievement and supremacy. Achievement is we did something. Supremacy is we are better than others. Of course sub-Saharan Africans had beautiful art which is an achievement. But so did every other people around the world. Supremacy is that we are better than others, and if that can be true for any race, it sure as hell is not black Africans. As individuals, black Africans are brilliant and rose to the pinnacle of several societies at different points in history. As a group, black supremacy is hogwash. Let Africa develop, while we celebrate our achievements. Not start a stupid tirade called African Supremacy that is etched in lies. Imagine these people saying China did not have an ancient civilization that was better than Bini and Ife. They tell obvious lies. That is how Hitler and Nazi Germany started. These people are racists. They are trying to start a black brand of KKK. -Lord 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Rosskii: 4:42pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordAdam16:Honestly, you sound like you are on some sort of drugs. You need to go and learn how to participate in a debate. You seem to think that flooding the thread with loud, bombastic innuendo, and pompous but baseless, poorly researched assertions and lies, will somehow intimidate people into towing your line. But we are made of sterner stuff. 6 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Horus(m): 4:42pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
[img]http://1.bp..com/-_4osp4I3R4E/Ti1tpY_zLTI/AAAAAAAAAns/clHNHFrlB7w/s1600/4776487131_2529713b56.jpg[/img] Moors in European Coat Of Arms, 2 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by LordAdam16: 4:46pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Rosskii: What are you yapping on about embracing history. You are telling obvious lies and covering it up with it's all history. Tell complete history. The Europeans had ancient civilizations better than anything in sub-Saharan Africa. Then Europe slipped into the Dark Ages. During this time, Mohammed was born, he and his followers invaded and colonized Africa from the fair-skinned North Africans to the dark-skinned West Africans. It is these colonized Muslim Black Africans with the help of Arabs that conquered Spain and Portugal (not the entire Europe as you have been saying on this thread). You talk about celebrating our culture, is Arabic naming, culture, and religion core African culture? Is Zayed an African Name? Is Musa an African name? Present day Asia was already developing before they started their cultural awakening. Look at Japan and India. China too. You called my facts that sub-Saharan Africa had no civilization that rivaled the greats in other continent lies. Provide facts to disprove you say no. Then you use your lies to say there is such a thing as African supremacy. And want all Africans to accept it as fact because you want us to embrace and develop. So, Lagos that has been developing before you opened this thread accepted African Supremacy before the development started abi? You are really sick in the head. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Nobody: 4:50pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
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Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by LordAdam16: 4:53pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Rosskii: Oga the only person giving baseless, poorly researched assertions and lies is you. Were the Moors colonized by Islamic Arabs? Yes or No? Did the ancient Roman Empire in all its glory exist before the Moors were colonized by Islamic Arabs? Yes or No? Did Ife and Bini Empires exist before the Persian Empire? Yes or No? Did the Ife and Bini Empire have navies that rival the Persian and Greek Empire navies? Yes or No? Answer these questions truthfully, and you'll see what I've been saying all this while. That African Supremacy is a stup*d conjecture from heavily disturbed minds. If you want to talk about sub-Saharan African achievements (even though other ancient civilizations had achievements that were miles better) count me in, but African supremacy, you must be high on horse sh*t. You can not be superior than someone who had a far advanced civilization than you ever had. -Lord 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Rosskii: 4:57pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Lady Flora Shaw Lugard, wife of Lord Lugard, first British Governor-General of Nigeria, was a historian who worked for the Times of a London in the early 1900s. She wrote in her seminal book, that: "When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt. For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come." "The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than that at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race.'' Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, 1910[/quote] 4 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Nobody: 5:00pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
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Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by TheStronghold: 5:01pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Nowenuse: I've reached the same conclusion from my observation as well. LordAdam already stated that "Africans are filth", and braden2 stated he's also white. So on top of them saying baseless things, these just confirmed that they are to be ignored. So i've just chosen to ignored anything they say henceforth, and I advise others to do the same. 2 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by LordAdam16: 5:02pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Braden2: Seriously, he could simply have opened this thread with a more innocuous title like When the Moors conquered Spain and Portugal and Art depicting black people in pre-modern Europe. We'll understand and I'll be cheering him up. But when they start bringing sh*t like African Supremacy when the same Moors that did the invasion was not answering a core African name like Adekunle but bearing an Arabic name Zayed, then they'd bring a lot of shot. Look at the names of the black people he's sharing outside Spain and Portugal in pre-modern Europe, most of them are European names. You conquered people and you started answering their names. Why did the Europeans living in Nigeria not answer Nigerian names like Emeka, Musa, and Adewale. Very soon he'll say English is an African language because the Knights of the Round table were all black. Just look how they switched something so beautiful to something so hideous with lies and false narratives. -Lord 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by TheStronghold: 5:03pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Rosskii:Just ignore them. They are derailing the entire thread. If they truly disagree with this thread, they'll just leave eventually. So how best do you think we can continue to promote such images to african children? 2 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by slurryeye: 5:07pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Braden2: So you are a mulatto. I know there gotta be something about you for you to be writing trash about black Africans. Not all mixed race, but most mixed race are the worst when it comes to identity. They try so hard to prove that they are black, at the same time they have serious self hate for their skin and black heritage. We have seen you, you can take your biracial ass out of a black african forum 1 Like |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by khalids: 5:08pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Nowenuse: Have you noticed that whenever Nigeria is playing in the world cup, nations cup or any soccer event, there is always unity at that point. I believe what we need is a common rally point, a common enemy so to speak. We need to sink it into the subconscious of our populace, the importance of lifting ourselves on to greatness.....And if we can sell that, that will be our rallying point, our point of unity and then we can leave all the pettiness and move forward because they will all suddenly be of little importance, all previous points of division will appear insignificant compared to the goal and dreams ahead of us........ 5 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Nobody: 5:10pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
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Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by khalids: 5:11pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordAdam16: Are you sure its they that were answering European names and not the other way round....you see all the information/ knowledge you hold were provided to you by the white man, and the info giving will always tilt in their favor......We cannot really tell what is true because most of our history is lost..........We have been hearing for a long time that there were nothing like education, civilization in wets africa, we are told the first story building is that nonsense in badagry.....but just of recent they unearthed a magnificent city, with story building, unique architecture in ogun state (http://www.blackhistorystudies.com/shop/the-great-mighty-wall/article-about-eredo/).......With this example, should that not prick you to think of what other false information's we might have been fed over the years by these whites... 2 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by slurryeye: 5:12pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordAdam16: Alright we get you, stop taking this too personal. If a black guy decide to write something inspiring about his race in a black african forum, you got no right to tell him how he should present it. The last time I checked, spain and Portugal are part of Europe, hence the op starting a thread that says when black african ruled Europe is very right. The name or religion they practised is not part of discussion here. If you are uncomfortable with the info in the thread, just swerve aside and ignore. I won't be surprised if you a Mulatto or pure white like your brother braden2 5 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by LordAdam16: 5:15pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
TheStronghold: Oga answer the simple question, were the Moors colonized by Arabs? Yes or No? You conveniently ignored where I said individually blacks are creative, and simply took black Africans are filth as your new mantra. Lying would not bring development. You guys have been yapping that it's black Africans that brought development to Europe. And then I ask, is Alexander the Great Black? Is Julius Caesar black? Why has there not being any black pope since the creation of the Roman Catholic Church? Europe had the dark ages and the Islamists (majorly the Moors) infiltrated to capture Spain and Portugal. Later they were driven out. Before there was Islam, Europe had great civilizations namely the Roman Empire and Greco-Macedonian Empire. The Roman Empire in particular sacked the dominating powers in North Africa (Egypt/Alexandria and Carthage) in the height of their power. Carthage was built by Phoenicians and Egypt was ruled by European descendants of one of Alexander's general. So the people called the Moors were effectively under European rule before the Islamic Golden Age started when Mohammed decided to wage a Jihad to conquer other people. The Moors were conquered by the Arabs. They then having assimilated with Arabic culture took the Jihad to Spain and Portugal with the help of Arabs. They were only able to retain control of Spain and Portugal. They never advanced further into Europe. They never reached Rome. So where is the African Supremacy coming from. All the leaders of the orders of the Roman Catholic Church were all whites. The Black knight he depicted giving instructions to a Bishop kissed the foot and ring of the Pope in Rome (a white man). So where is all this nonsense about African supremacy coming from? You all are uneducated, ignorant, emotional hot-heads who can't be the least bothered to read the history books. -Lord 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by TheStronghold: 5:15pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Horus(m): 5:17pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8gHLgjoc0M Black Romans Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjZn4FTHMfY Black Romans Part 2 |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Horus(m): 5:17pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Evidence of 'upper Class' Africans Living in Roman York Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/history/evidence-of-upper-class-africans-living-in-roman-york-1914553.html 2 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Rosskii: 5:20pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordAdam16:Were the Spaniards colonised by black African Moors, yes or no? Did the ancient Roman Empire in all its glory exist before the Moors were colonized by Islamic Arabs? Yes or No?Did black Egypt and Nubia exist in all their glory before Rome existed, yes or no? Did Ife and Bini Empires exist before the Persian Empire? Yes or No?Did Rome and Greece exist before the Kushite and Egyptian empires, yes or no? Did the Ife and Bini Empire have navies that rival the Persian and Greek Empire navies? Yes or No?Did the Celts and Germanic tribes have armies that rivalled the Nubian military or Shaka Zulu's armies, yes or no? See, anyone can play this silly game of yours, where you pick a relatively weak African paradigm to juxtapose with a strong European one. It's a childish, cheap game no one here will fall for. We are far smarter than you think. Nice try though. Move on. 4 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by baby124: 5:22pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Roskii for minister of culture. Though we De fight some times 3 Likes |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Rosskii: 5:32pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
khalids:Very well said. We need a unifying ideology. Maybe even a new religion. Homegrown of course. Something that unifies us. You are absolutely correct. |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by LordAdam16: 5:35pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
khalids: If they answered other names, then it sure as hell will be Arabic which still is not a core African name. The seat of the Umayadd Caliphate was Cordoba. It was founded in the 700s. So if he is saying that it was the black Islamic Moors that dominated entire Europe (note he said entire Europe, even going as far as Viking territory), then the Islamic Moors would have won wars outside Spain and Portugal and eventually sacked the Roman White Pope. But no such thing happened. Which just proves that these other people he's posting were black individuals who emigrated from Africa to Europe. In the height of the Roman Empire it is inconceivable to believe that there were no black people in Rome. Rome was the melting pot of people of all colors. Black people were in Egypt for starters, so why not Rome. Black people would definitely be in any of those great ancient civilizations. And since slavery wasn't racial, some of those black people would have prospered in the arts, military, and eventually become knights or noble men or even rich commoners. The black people outside the direct sphere of Moor influence in Portugal and Spain are the people I'm talking about. They answered the names of the civilizations they assimilated into and even dressed like them. There's even a prince who had royal regalia with tinge of Papal blessings. Which means that prince was sworn in allegiance to a white Pope in Rome. So if you have black people swearing allegiance to a white pope in Rome, where does the African Supremacy idea come from? The Popes that amassed Christian armies to sack the Arabs in far-away Jerusalem are the people this no-body is saying were relegated while black Africans reigned supreme "all over" Europe? It is the height of ingenuity. He is doing the same thing he is accusing colonial Europeans of doing--rewriting history. For example, we know that the Oba of Benin sent an emissary to the King of Portugal in the early 16th century. So, it is not inconceivable that black sub-Saharan Africans had been in pre-modern Europe even before the Moors invaded Portugal but traveled through the Mediterranean route. -Lord 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by LordAdam16: 5:38pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
slurryeye: Oga is Spain and Portugal all of Europe?' It's like when some ignorant white people call Africa like it's one country. Use clear language. Black Africans did not rule Europe. Say they ruled Spain and Portugal. Europe is bigger than Spain and Portugal. -Lord 1 Like |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Horus(m): 5:39pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Re: The Black Africans Who Ruled Europe From 711 To 1789 - Pics by Rosskii: 5:49pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
TheStronghold:I think eventually, EVERYONE OF US will have access to this info. It's simply about each person sharing what they know with their peers, as is happening here. Before you know it, it's common knowledge, and we we start seeing movies on it etc etc. It will take time though. A good few years in my view, before that momentum is built. |
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