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Your mother should have swallowed you. U lil piece of shiit

sunnyeinstein:
And u just decrease his popularity by mentioning him abi Mumu

I know say freeze must talk him own, he dey always get opinion for wetin dem no call am put. Even women no dey do amebo like this... Am not supporting apostle or judging freeze, but make him dey mind him business sometimes

Silva79:
freeze is now officially a chemical. He reacts to everything

i agree with u, this guy own even pass chemical. He dey always get opinion for everything wey dey happen for 9ja... E get sometimes wey person dey keep Quiet. Sometimes, u don't have to fight to prove that u are a man

Lordeminent234:
just so you know

David had two half-sisters (1 Chron. 2:13-16), and their father was not Jesse but Nahash (2 Sam. 17:25, 2 Sam. 10:2) who was an Ammonite king (1 Sam. 11:1; 1 Sam. 12:12). David’s mother might have been a second wife of Jesse. Perhaps the first wife of Jesse was considered superior to his second wife, because this would explain why David’s half brothers viewed themselves as superior to David and why David was not called before Samuel among the other sons – as he was possibly viewed as an illegitimate child (1 Sam. 16:11). We can speculate further that perhaps David’s mother was not married to Jesse when she became pregnant, or maybe she was still the concubine of, or married to Nahash when she conceived David. Moreover, we can’t rule out that it might be as per this story, reminding us about Jacob and Leah + her sister Rachel. If this story is applicable, then Jesse is indeed David’s father without even knowing it due to a sneaky plan carried out by his wife, and David’s brothers would regard him as an illegitimate and hated son of their mother.

Whu wrote old testament?

oruma19:
pls where did u get this story from? Certainly not the Bible we read every dat. I am interested in such a book . How do I get such book pls . I keep saying it that there's so much about the Jewish history and Bible characters that we don't know about. I am tired of being deceived by these "tithe promoters" we call pastors. I need to knw more and knowing requires studying books that are relevant to the scriptures. Pls do recommend the book I will do everything to get it. Thanks

the jewish kabbalah

Freeze go theological school oh! His analysis so on point.
Abeg tutor the apostle that finishes from the back.

Go to https://redeeminggod.com/davids-mother-commit-adultery/ for a comprehensive history of David's parentage.

I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
That gives you a clear meaning what his mother was

freeze vs suleiman....

When the Bible says 'in sin did my conceived me' does not imply that the mother is actually living in sin. Everyone Is sinner in conception whether your parents are Christians or not. Since the fall of man at the garden of Eden, the entire human race was sold to the slave market of sin that why a redeemer was needed to buy man back from the slavery of sin and Satan which Jesus did on the cross 2000 years ago. David didn't make that statement because the was a harlot, never. Everyone is born a a sinner and repentance to enjoy fellowship with the creator (God)

Smellymouth:
King David be looking at Pasto Suleiman like====" Hollup Pasto Sule, Just Hollup..
You say my mama na Olosho? You say my mama na gbensher? My Mama? "

jerrybakermillz:
Kk.. Freeze the wife banterer, I know say u go show face for this one

sheepson spotted

Oya receive your freedom


FIRE

Lilaex:
But tbh this daddy frezz abi wat ever u call him is a fool o! And I don't blame him na una day given am cheep popularity nonsense.

your own foolishness pass his own...sheepson

Lilaex:
But tbh this daddy frezz abi wat ever u call him is a fool o! And I don't blame him na una day given am cheep popularity nonsense.

you just wake up and say freeze na fool elucidate abeg.......if you nor get wetin to talk kip kweet you de even read bible self....

The Talmud is the source from which the code of Jewish Halakhah (law) is derived. Used by the Orthodox Judaism...Reform Judaism officially rejects the Talmud as an entirely human invention reflecting medieval thought and values.

Nitzevet (Nzb'th) was an Israelite woman who was the mother of David according to the Talmud, but she is not named in the Bible. She was an ancestor of the Kings of Judah.and the daughter of Adael (also not named in the Bible)

No where in scripture is David's mother mentioned by name




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The Jewish Press Explained it here

"Shavuot marks the birthday of King David and for this reason it is customary in many communities to read Megillat Ruth since Ruth was his great-grandmother. What is not as known, however, is the remarkable story of Nitzevet, the noble mother of King David.




King David had many challenges throughout his life. At one point, this great individual describes that enemies who wish to cut him down surround him; even his own brothers are strangers to him, ravaging and reviling him.



Why did King David arouse such ire and contempt?



David was born into the illustrious family of Yishai, who served as the head of the Sanhedrin (Jewish Supreme Court) and was one of the most distinguished leaders of his generation. David was the youngest in his family, which included seven illustrious brothers.

Yet, when David was born, these prominent family members greeted his birth with absolute derision. David was not permitted to eat with his family, but was assigned a separate table in the corner. He was given the task of shepherd, in the hope that a wild beast would kill him.



Only one individual throughout David’s youth felt pained over his plight and felt a deep bond of love for the child whom she alone knew was undoubtedly pure. This was King David’s mother, Nitzevet bat Adel.



Torn and anguished by David’s unwarranted troubles, yet powerless to stop the degradation, Nitzevet stood by the sidelines waiting for the time when true justice would emerge.

It would take 28 long years for that to happen.

David’s Birth





David’s father, Yishai, was the grandson of Boaz and Ruth. After several years of marriage and after having raised virtuous children, Yishai began to entertain personal doubts about his ancestry.


His grandmother Ruth was a convert from the nation of Moav. The Torah specifically forbids a Moabite convert. Boaz and the sages understood this law as forbidding the conversion of male Moabites, while exempting the female converts. Ruth gave birth to Oved, the father of Yishai.


Later in his life, doubt gripped at Yishai on whether Boaz’s decision was correct. If Yishai’s status was questionable, he could not remain married to his wife, a veritable Israelite. Disregarding the personal sacrifice, Yishai separated from her.


After a number of years, Yishai longed for an offspring whose ancestry would be unquestionable. His plan involved his Canaanite maidservant.


He said to her, “Prepare for tonight. I will be freeing you, conditionally. If my status as a Jew is legitimate, you are freed as a Jewish convert to marry me. If my status is blemished, I am not giving you your freedom, but as a Canaanite maidservant, you may marry a Moabite convert.”


Aware of the anguish of her mistress in being separated from her husband, the maidservant informed Nitzevet of Yishai’s plan and suggested a counter plan. “Switch places with me tonight.”


Nitzevet conceived that night.


Incensed, her sons wished to kill her and her illegitimate fetus. Nitzevet chose a vow of silence, refusing to embarrass her husband by revealing his plan.


Unaware of his wife’s behavior, but having compassion on her, Yishai ordered his sons not to kill her. “Instead, let the child that will be born be treated as a hated servant. Everyone will realize that he is a mamzer.”


From the moment of his birth Nitzevet’s son was treated by his brothers, as an abominable outcast. The rest of the nation, too, assumed that this youth was a treacherous sinner.

King David’s Corronation





The prophet, Shmuel arrives in Beit Lechem to anoint the new king of Israel. As he lays his eyes on Yishai’s eldest son, tall and distinguished Eliav, he is sure that this is the future king, until G-d reprimands him not to look at outside qualities.


No longer did Shmuel make any assumptions. All the seven sons of Yishai passed before Shmuel. None had been chosen.


“Are these all the lads?” Shmuel asked.


Yishai answered, “A small one is left.”


Shmuel ordered that David be summoned. Out of respect, David first went home to change his clothes.


Nitzevet inquired, “Why did you come home?”


David explained. Nitzevet answered, “If so, I, too, am accompanying you.”


When David arrived, Shmuel doubted whether he was worthy of the kingship.


However, G-d commanded, “My anointed one is standing and you remain seated? Anoint David!”


Tearful weeping could be heard from outside – the voice of Nitzevet, David’s lone supporter and solitary source of comfort. The 28 long years of silence in the face of humiliation were finally coming to a close. At last, all would see that the lineage of her youngest son was pure.


Within moments, the once reviled shepherd boy became anointed as the future king of Israel.

Nitzevet’s Legacy





King David had many sterling qualities. Many of these were inherited from his illustrious father, Yishai. But it was undoubtedly from his mother’s milk that the young David absorbed strong values and the courage to face his adversaries.


From the moment he was born, and during his most tender years, it was Nitzevet who taught him the essential lesson of valuing every individual’s dignity and refraining from embarrassing another, regardless of the personal consequences. It was she who displayed a silent but stoic bravery and dignity in the face of the gravest hardship.


Undoubtedly, it is from Nitzevet that King David absorbed a strength born from an inner confidence to disregard the callous treatment of the world and find solace in the comfort of his Maker. It was this strength that would fortify King David to defeat his staunchest antagonists and well as his most treacherous enemies, as he valiantly fought against the mightiest warriors.


And it was this strength that ultimately allowed him to become the forebear of Moshiach.

Foxyn:
Instead of him to look for a way and settle issues with his wife, he's here typing rubbish.

this is the type of people that always make others want to commit suicide by jumping off the mainland bridge in lagos because they're tired of people like freeze not minding their own business.

hmm, what am I even saying self

If u wan go,make u go now.Nigeria will be one idiot less.
Blind and lost follower

helpee:
David’s Mother Supposedly Committed Adultery

The traditional Jewish answer to why David’s family rejected him is that they all thought that David’s mother had committed adultery and borne him out of wedlock. They thought he was a bastard (in fact, the word “stranger” in Psalm 69:8 has the same Hebrew root as muzar, meaning “bastard”). The traditional Jewish story is stated briefly below.

David’s father, Jesse, was the son of Obed, who was the son of Boaz, who married Ruth, the Moabite woman. The Jewish traditional law explicitly forbade Hebrew women from marrying Moabite men because of how the Moabites treated the Israelites when they were wandering in the desert after fleeing Egypt. But the law was unclear about whether or not a Hebrew man could marry a Moabite woman. Boaz believed that the law allowed such a marriage, which is why he married Ruth.

However, according to Jewish tradition, Boaz died on the night that he and Ruth were married (Midrash, Zuta, Ruth 4). Many believed that his death proved that God had condemned Boaz’ marriage to Ruth, and had punished him accordingly.

However, even though Boaz and Ruth had only been intimate for that one night, she conceived and gave birth to Obed.

Obed was then viewed as illegitimately born, as was his own son, Jesse. Nevertheless, both of these men labored hard in learning the Torah and loving God and so the conduct of their lives helped convince the surrounding communities that though Boaz had sinned, they themselves were accepted by God as part of the covenant community. Jesse married a Jewish girl named Nizbeth (Babylonian Talmud, Baba Batra 91a).

After Jesse had been married for many years, had fathered seven sons with Nizbeth, and had gained honor as a righteous man and spiritual leader in the community, doubts began to fill his mind about whether or not his line and seed were permanently polluted by his Moabite blood. It was at this point that he resolved to cease all sexual relations with Nizbeth. He did this out of love for her, because she, as a pure Israelite, would be sinning to be married to someone who was of impure Moabite ancestry.

Furthermore, Jesse began to doubt the legitimacy of his seven sons. If he was impure, then his children were illegitimate and impure as well.

So Jesse, wanting a legitimate heir, came up with a plan to have a son in the same way that his forefather Abraham had done: through relations with his wife’s Canaanite maidservant. Whether Jesse was viewed by God as a true Israelite or just as a Moabite convert to Judaism, the law allowed him to marry a female convert to Judaism. If he obtained a son from this union, this son would be recognized by all as a legitimate heir, thus securing Jesse’s family line.

When the Canaanite woman was told of this plan, she did not want to participate, for she loved Nizbeth, and had seen the pain that she had gone through by being separated from her husband for so many years. So she told Nizbeth about Jesse’s plan, and the two of them decided to do what Laban had done so many years earlier with Leah and Rachel. So on the night that Jesse was to have relations with the Canaanite maidservant, she switched places with her Nizbeth. On that night, Nizbeth conceived, and Jesse remained ignorant of what had taken place. (My wife says that for this to work, Jesse must have been drunk. Same goes for Jacob.)

But several months later, Nizbeth began to show that she was with child, and her seven sons, as well as her husband, all believed that she had committed adultery. The sons wanted to kill their adulterous mother by stoning (as the law called for) and her illegitimate baby with her, but out of love for his wife, Jesse intervened. Nizbeth did not reveal to her husband that the child was his, for she did not want to embarrass him by revealing the truth of what had happened. Instead, she chose to bear the shame of their son, much as her ancestress Tamar was prepared to be burned rather than bring public shame upon Judah, her father-in-law and the father of her child (Genesis 38:24-25).

David the Shepherd

You think apostle suleman knows this?

Or rather you think Apostle Suleman will think that his congregation knows this?

Then why explain things your people largely don't know and cannot comprehend?

Isn't sermon meant to make hard things clear?

Why obfuscating issues to further confuse people without salient evidences to back them up?

helpee:
David’s Mother Supposedly Committed Adultery

The traditional Jewish answer to why David’s family rejected him is that they all thought that David’s mother had committed adultery and borne him out of wedlock. They thought he was a bastard (in fact, the word “stranger” in Psalm 69:8 has the same Hebrew root as muzar, meaning “bastard”). The traditional Jewish story is stated briefly below.

David’s father, Jesse, was the son of Obed, who was the son of Boaz, who married Ruth, the Moabite woman. The Jewish traditional law explicitly forbade Hebrew women from marrying Moabite men because of how the Moabites treated the Israelites when they were wandering in the desert after fleeing Egypt. But the law was unclear about whether or not a Hebrew man could marry a Moabite woman. Boaz believed that the law allowed such a marriage, which is why he married Ruth.

However, according to Jewish tradition, Boaz died on the night that he and Ruth were married (Midrash, Zuta, Ruth 4). Many believed that his death proved that God had condemned Boaz’ marriage to Ruth, and had punished him accordingly.

However, even though Boaz and Ruth had only been intimate for that one night, she conceived and gave birth to Obed.

Obed was then viewed as illegitimately born, as was his own son, Jesse. Nevertheless, both of these men labored hard in learning the Torah and loving God and so the conduct of their lives helped convince the surrounding communities that though Boaz had sinned, they themselves were accepted by God as part of the covenant community. Jesse married a Jewish girl named Nizbeth (Babylonian Talmud, Baba Batra 91a).

After Jesse had been married for many years, had fathered seven sons with Nizbeth, and had gained honor as a righteous man and spiritual leader in the community, doubts began to fill his mind about whether or not his line and seed were permanently polluted by his Moabite blood. It was at this point that he resolved to cease all sexual relations with Nizbeth. He did this out of love for her, because she, as a pure Israelite, would be sinning to be married to someone who was of impure Moabite ancestry.

Furthermore, Jesse began to doubt the legitimacy of his seven sons. If he was impure, then his children were illegitimate and impure as well.

So Jesse, wanting a legitimate heir, came up with a plan to have a son in the same way that his forefather Abraham had done: through relations with his wife’s Canaanite maidservant. Whether Jesse was viewed by God as a true Israelite or just as a Moabite convert to Judaism, the law allowed him to marry a female convert to Judaism. If he obtained a son from this union, this son would be recognized by all as a legitimate heir, thus securing Jesse’s family line.

When the Canaanite woman was told of this plan, she did not want to participate, for she loved Nizbeth, and had seen the pain that she had gone through by being separated from her husband for so many years. So she told Nizbeth about Jesse’s plan, and the two of them decided to do what Laban had done so many years earlier with Leah and Rachel. So on the night that Jesse was to have relations with the Canaanite maidservant, she switched places with her Nizbeth. On that night, Nizbeth conceived, and Jesse remained ignorant of what had taken place. (My wife says that for this to work, Jesse must have been drunk. Same goes for Jacob.)

But several months later, Nizbeth began to show that she was with child, and her seven sons, as well as her husband, all believed that she had committed adultery. The sons wanted to kill their adulterous mother by stoning (as the law called for) and her illegitimate baby with her, but out of love for his wife, Jesse intervened. Nizbeth did not reveal to her husband that the child was his, for she did not want to embarrass him by revealing the truth of what had happened. Instead, she chose to bear the shame of their son, much as her ancestress Tamar was prepared to be burned rather than bring public shame upon Judah, her father-in-law and the father of her child (Genesis 38:24-25).

David the Shepherd

So how did this make her a harlot?
I'm not for or against the apostle but what u sited I can't and won't believe because it is pure theology that breeds arguments.
read this 1Sam. 22:3-4
Show me where ur narrative about the pregnancy is in the bible and I will believe u.

Lilaex:
Your mother should have swallowed you. U lil piece of shiit

It shows you grew up in a dysfunctional home, probably you dint grow to know your mother, that's why other people's parents mean nothing to you.
However, i will not condescend to your level of illiteracy, i'd squarely face your person...

Ti alaaro ba ni o maa daa fun e alale o ni gba
Shishe shishe lo maa ba ku, eyan rada rada
Waa shanku ni,
Bi o se fi iya mi tayin beeni aye ati orun maa fi oro e ta'yin too fi maa ra're ku.

Eyi ti wi yii, aro ti ro mo, ashe si ti gun!

Thank you

Smellymouth:
King David be looking at Pasto Suleiman like====" Hollup Pasto Sule, Just Hollup..
You say my mama na Olosho? You say my mama na gbensher? My Mama? "

heehehehehehehehe

kingkakaone:
So how did this make her a harlot?
I'm not for or against the apostle but what u sited I can't and won't believe because it is pure theology that breeds arguments.
read this 1Sam. 22:3-4
Show me where ur narrative about the pregnancy is in the bible and I will believe u.

Theology is the study of "God".
It is enlightening and makes you have a balanced and not myopic view of biblical narratives.

The Bible did not fall from heaven. It's a compilation of 66 books out of the many that were available at that time by the council of Nice to present a coherent account if God's salvation plan for humanity.

In religious parlance books that are not in the Biblia that is collection of books called the Christian scriptures are valid as long as they have been verified.

They are known as extra biblical sources.

thesicilian:
I myself have been searching the Bible since this issue came up and I haven't seen anywhere it was written that David's mother was a harlot.

There is an old Jewish tradition regarding 'free women'. They are not strictly what you call harlots of today