Wikipedia history! Anyone can edit Wikipedia.

Now I see y the Yoruba's hate nothing but the truth. Some will tell you Edo's are yoruba without proper facts attesting to their claim.

Smellingmenses et al, Rome is Rome no matter how develop America is

Guestlander:
Wikipedia history! Anyone can edit Wikipedia.

So its not trusted because the truth is making the Yoruba's uncomfortable Abi? Lol

legendsilver:


So its not trusted because the truth is making the Yoruba's uncomfortable Abi? Lol

You don't get it. The Yoruba race is 5 centuries ahead. We are not on the same pedestal.

smellingmenses:

You don't get it. The Yoruba race is 5 centuries ahead. We are not on the same pedestal.

Lol, but history is history boy. Read it and teach your children accordingly, thanks.

legendsilver:

Lol, but history is history boy. Read it and teach your children accordingly, thanks.

Live in the self created past.... While your women are professional prostitutes globally

This is one of them...

smellingmenses:

Live in the self created past.... While your women are professional prostitutes globally

This is one of them...

Lols, prostitution is global bro. Even the bible recorded it so guy take your stands elsewhere

smellingmenses:

There's nothing to discuss with someone who is exhibiting acute grandiosity.

It doesn't take much to confirm that you Benin people celebrate mediocrity

You need not comment on a thread like for too long because ,OP knows nothing about history. I will advise you let the OP lick his wound over his dying EDO language. How many white men want to seek and Learn more about Edo tradition? A tradition that is not independent of itself because it is attached to Yoruba myth gods, like Olokun, Ogun, etc . The replica of the development of BINI ART is in London Museum, which has shown that it was thought to them Yoruba people of ILE IFE . That's the reason, the British colonialist don't always take them serious. Even, think, who in diaspora want any serious attachment to Bini kingdom?. Bini belong only to less than 2,000,000 speakers, how can you take the OP serious?

Olu317:
You need not comment on a thread like for too long because ,OP knows nothing about history. I will advise you let the OP lick his wound over his dying EDO language. How many white men want to seek and Learn more about Edo tradition? A tradition that is not independent of itself because it is attached to Yoruba myth gods, like Olokun, Ogun, etc . The replica of the development of BINI ART is in London Museum, which has shown that it was thought to them Yoruba people of ILE IFE . That's the reason, the British colonialist don't always take them serious. Even, think, who in diaspora want any serious attachment to Bini kingdom?. Bini belong only to less than 2,000,000 speakers, how can you take the OP serious?

Benin art, the Benin bronzes are cherished and admired throughout the world. I've never never heard anywhere that the Yorubas taught our people how to make our art. That's B.S. If your trying to make a point fine, but don't come here spewing lies like that. It's our artwork not yours!

Favor99:

Benin art, the Benin bronzes are cherished and admired throughout the world. I've never never heard anywhere that the Yorubas taught our people how to make our art. That's B.S. If your trying to make a point fine, but don't come here spewing lies like that. It's our artwork not yours!

Lmao...

We gave you Ogiso, we gave you Oba, we gave you Art. We forced our culture and gods on you and brought you into glory and civilization. Is this how you pay back?

legendsilver:

Please don't derail this trend biko. Clarify your claims with facts, thanks

legendsilver:

Lol, but history is history boy. Read it and teach your children accordingly, thanks.

You also don't have facts, what you have is oral tradition that is likely to have been distorted to make ancient Benin Kingdom seem bigger than what it really was.

Come up with hard evidence like: archeological pieces, manuscripts (ancient text), scientific link (DNA) etc... then your point may seem valid. For now it is just a bunch of fairy tales.

Favor99:

Benin art, the Benin bronzes are cherished and admired throughout the world. I've never never heard anywhere that the Yorubas taught our people how to make our art. That's B.S. If your trying to make a point fine, but don't come here spewing lies like that. It's our artwork not yours!

Yes, YORUBA TAUGHT BINI, THE ART KNOWN TODAY IN BINI HISTORY BEFORE CONTACT WITH Portuguese . READ STORY OF YOUR KING CALLED OGUOLA before Bini Came in contact with JOHN ALFONSO D'ALVEIRO (BETWEEN 1485—1486). YOU WILL HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF YORUBA'S ROLE IN SHAPING EDO'S TURNED BINI THROUGH YORUBA MAN CALLED ORANMIYAN AND HOW THIS HAS HELPED SHAPED BINI HISTORY. OGUOLA WAS THE ONE WHO SENT TO HIS PATRILINEAL Father's Lineage AT ILE IFE TO HELP SEND SOMEONE WHO WILL TEACH THEM THE ART WORK.
According to Bini tradition, brass-casting was introduced into Benin by medieval artists from Ife (Uhe) under Oba Oguola in about 1280. The Oba wanted works like those imported from Ife to be produced in Benin itself. He therefore sent to the Oghene(Ojaja/Ogehgeh/Ojeje/)of Uhe for a brass-smith and Igue-igha was sent to him from ILE IFE (UHE) . Igue-igha was very clever and left many designs to his successors and was in consequence deified and is worshipped to this day by brass-smiths. The practice of making brass castings for the preservation of the records of events was originated during the reign of Oguola.
The bronzes are produced by what is known as the cire-perdu (lost-wax) process. A model is made - usually of clay - and covered with a layer of wax. If the object is very small the model is entirely of wax, A thin metal tube is attached to each end of the waxed model, and the whole encased in a lump of soft clay. When the clay has hardened, the molten metal is poured into the upper tube through a funnel. It runs down into the interior, filling the space occupied by the wax, while the melted wax flows out through the lower tube, hence the name lost-wax. When the metal has cooled the shell of clay is carefully broken and removed. The surface of the bronze is invariably rough, and has to be finished off with chisel and file. In cases of bad craftsmanship, holes may be left where the metal did not entirely fill the cavity. The clay in the interior is usually burnt quite black with the heat, and can be dug out comparatively easily.
This technique has been recorded in many books, and there is a set of models in the British Museum showing various stages of the work

IF YOU AREN'T SATISFIED,YOU CAN VISIT BRITAIN'S MUSEUM WHERE AFRICAN ART ARE HOUSED. YOUR EYES WILL SEE THE TRUTH. I have seen many of you Edos trying so hard to rewrite history. And I am here to correct all of you on this self pride and distortion of history, which isn't strange to the whites because they have fact in their care. But to make it known to many who do not have access to the existing information.

Olu317:
Yes, YORUBA TAUGHT BINI, THE ART KNOWN TODAY IN BINI HISTORY BEFORE CONTACT WITH Portuguese . READ STORY OF YOUR KING CALLED OGUOLA before Bini Came in contact with JOHN ALFONSO D'ALVEIRO (BETWEEN 1485—1486). YOU WILL HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF YORUBA'S ROLE IN SHAPING EDO'S TURNED BINI THROUGH YORUBA MAN CALLED ORANMIYAN AND HOW THIS HAS HELPED SHAPED BINI HISTORY. OGUOLA WAS THE ONE WHO SENT TO HIS PATRILINEAL Father's Lineage AT ILE IFE TO HELP SEND SOMEONE WHO WILL TEACH THEM THE ART WORK.
According to Bini tradition, brass-casting was introduced into Benin by medieval artists from Ife (Uhe) under Oba Oguola in about 1280. The Oba wanted works like those imported from Ife to be produced in Benin itself. He therefore sent to the Oghene(Ojaja/Ogehgeh/Ojeje/)of Uhe for a brass-smith and Igue-igha was sent to him from ILE IFE (UHE) . Igue-igha was very clever and left many designs to his successors and was in consequence deified and is worshipped to this day by brass-smiths. The practice of making brass castings for the preservation of the records of events was originated during the reign of Oguola.
The bronzes are produced by what is known as the cire-perdu (lost-wax) process. A model is made - usually of clay - and covered with a layer of wax. If the object is very small the model is entirely of wax, A thin metal tube is attached to each end of the waxed model, and the whole encased in a lump of soft clay. When the clay has hardened, the molten metal is poured into the upper tube through a funnel. It runs down into the interior, filling the space occupied by the wax, while the melted wax flows out through the lower tube, hence the name lost-wax. When the metal has cooled the shell of clay is carefully broken and removed. The surface of the bronze is invariably rough, and has to be finished off with chisel and file. In cases of bad craftsmanship, holes may be left where the metal did not entirely fill the cavity. The clay in the interior is usually burnt quite black with the heat, and can be dug out comparatively easily.
This technique has been recorded in many books, and there is a set of models in the British Museum showing various stages of the work

IF YOU AREN'T SATISFIED,YOU CAN VISIT BRITAIN'S MUSEUM WHERE AFRICAN ART ARE HOUSED. YOUR EYES WILL SEE THE TRUTH. I have seen many of you Edos trying so hard to rewrite history. And I am here to correct all of you on this self pride and distortion of history, which isn't strange to the whites because they have fact in their care. But to make it known to many who do not have access to the existing information.

Hope this will help you
- The Lagos monarch, Oba Rilwan Akiolu has allegedly said that Lagos is not part of Yoruba land

- Oba Akiolu had in a week ago reportedly snubbed Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi

Barely one week after he reportedly snubbed Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi when they met at a function, the Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, has allegedly released bombshell, saying Lagos is not part of Yoruba land.

NAIJ.com gathered that a statement reportedly emanated from Akiolu’s palace, detailed the historical background of Lagos and why it should not be regarded as part of Yoruba land.

The purported statement read: “Coming from the palace, with what I was told by my late paternal grandmother who is a descendant of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi and also reading from factual Historical books, let me share this Knowledge with you all on Eko/Lagos.

“Modern day Lagos was founded by Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin, Prince Ado was the first Oba of Lagos, the son of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Segueira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which at that time from 1942 was Portuguese expedition center down the African Coast.

“It was a major centre of the slave trade until 1851. Lagos was annexed by Britain via the Lagos treaty of cession in 1861, ending the consular period and starting the British Colonial Period. The remainder of modern day Nigeria was seized in 1886 when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria was established in 1914 Lagos was declared its capital due to the struggle of the Bini King.

“Lagos experienced growth prior to the British Colonial rule and even more rapid growth during the Colonial rule throughout the 1960s, 70s, continued through the 80s and 90s till date. Thanks to the Awori's, Bini's, Yoruba's, migrants across the nation and world at large, as no particular group of people can take the glory alone.

“Lagos is made up of Lagoons and creeks. The Lagos lagoon, Lagos Harbour, five cowne creeks, Ebute-Metta creeks, Porto-Novo creeks, New canal, Badagry creeks, Kuramo waters and Light house creeks.

“The Awori's and Bini's are known to be the first settlers of the Eko land. The Awori's are speakers of a distinct dialect close to that of the Yoruba language with a rich Bini mixture. Traditionally, Awori's were found in Ile-Ife, they were known to be the Bini's who followed their self-exiled Prince, the first son of the Ogiso (now called Oba) of Benin Kingdom, whose step-mother was after his head.

“The exiled Benin Prince Izoduwa known to the Yorubas as Ooduwa (Oduduwa) was made ruler of the Ife people due to his powers and followers from the Great Benin-Kingdom.

“Izoduwa (Ooduwa) was made the first King of Ile-Ife in 1230 AD. His followers from his father's Kingdom in Benin are the today's Awori people who settled in Eko now called Lagos.

“In the 1300, the King of Benin-Empire heard from one of his traders who was a settler in Eko on how the Bini's were treated by the Awori's who lived in their area. Upon hearing this, the King of Benin commanded the assembling of a war expedition, led by his son, Prince Ado, which headed the settlement of the Awori's and demanded explanation.

“On arriving Eko, Prince Ado and his Army were more than received. The Aworis asked the Bini Prince to stay and become their leader. Ado agreed on the condition that they surrender their sovereignty to the Oba of Benin, to which the people agreed. Hearing this, the King of Benin gave his permission for Prince Ado and the expedition to remain in Eko.

“The Oba of Benin sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu, Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist his son, Oba Ado in the running of Eko.

"From the crowing of Prince Ado as the first Oba of Lagos (then called Eko), Lagos served as a major center for slave trade from which the Aworis, the Oba of Benin and his son the Oba of Lagos and all the children/descendants who took over as his successors for over four centuries supported the trade.

“The Oba of Benin was the head of the Benin Empire which are the present day Western, Southern and Eastern modern day Nigeria. The King never obliged anyone to speak the Bini language as he believed everyone was entitled to their own choice of language.

“The name Eko was given to it by the first king of Lagos, Oba Ado, the young and vibrant Prince from Benin. Eko was the land now known as Lagos Island, where the king palace was built.

The palace is called Idugaran meaning "palace built on pepper farm" Oba Ado and the warriors from Benin together with the early Bini's settlers in Eko and the Awori people settled in the southern part of Eko called "Isale Eko". "Isale literally means bottom ". Must have been used to indicate downtown (as in down town Lagos)

The statement further states that: “Until the coming in of the Benin's 1300AD , Lagos geographical boundary was Lagos mainland, Lagos Island, the seat of the Oba of Lagos then consisted of a pepper farm and fishing post. No one was living there.

“About 1450 AD some Yorubas who hailed from Isheri in Ogun-state and Ekiti were allowed by the King to settle in Eko during a war, they came in a very large numbers thereby surpassing the numbers of the Awori's and Bini's. (Hence Yorubas claim to own Eko due to their numbers).

“Oba Ado fell in love with a beautiful woman whose father was Awori and mother a daughter to one of the chief; they had two sons and also a daughter Erelu Kuti, who begot Ologun Kutere who later became King.

“Oba Akintoye, a descendant of Prince Ado whose mother was the first queen from Awori ascended the throne as Oba of Lagos in 1841, he attempted to ban slave trade with the help of the British, but the local merchant, the Aworis, Bini's and a few Yorubas who were already integrated and married to Awori's and Bini's strongly opposed the intended move and disposed and exiled the king and installed Akintoye's brother Kosoko as Oba, at exile in Europe, Akintoye met with British Authorities who had earlier banned slavery in 1807 the British decided to support the deposed Oba to regain his throne.

“With the success of the British intervention in 1851, Akintoye was reinstalled as Oba of Lagos. In practical terms, however the British influence over the Benin Empire had become absolute, and then years later in 1861 Lagos was formally annexed as a British Colony.

“This led to the fight of the British and the Bini King, the leader of the Benin Empire for years, which finally led to the fall of the Empire and the capturing of Oba Ovonramwen.

“Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin. Prior to this, all the Kings of Lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Benin until the British settled in.

“Until today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Obas in Lagos because the Binis believe that wherever they or their offspring are they are senior. The status of the Oba of Lagos is different from other Obas most of whom were given back their crowns and staff of office only within 40 years ago.

“Those who got their lands back was the original land owners they were mostly descendant of Prince Ado others children of the Olofin.”

legendsilver:


Hope this will help you
- The Lagos monarch, Oba Rilwan Akiolu has allegedly said that Lagos is not part of Yoruba land

- Oba Akiolu had in a week ago reportedly snubbed Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi

Barely one week after he reportedly snubbed Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi when they met at a function, the Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, has allegedly released bombshell, saying Lagos is not part of Yoruba land.

OK oooo.

legendsilver:


Hope this will help you
- The Lagos monarch, Oba Rilwan Akiolu has allegedly said that Lagos is not part of Yoruba land

- Oba Akiolu had in a week ago reportedly snubbed Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi

Barely one week after he reportedly snubbed Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi when they met at a function, the Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, has allegedly released bombshell, saying Lagos is not part of Yoruba land.

That guy

ba7man:
All these Bini boys that think we're still in 1469.

Yoruba don take over for hundreds of years now, this one is still yarning ancient crap.

There were no record of BINI HISTORY'S CONNECTION TO WEST AFRICA OR EVEN AFRICA. That's where to look at it from and do finding. Else, you will make some of them still feel a bit on a pride side. They had no history without Yoruba and will have no history without YORUBA CONNECTION. AFONSO DE AVEIRO (1585—1586)WAS THE FIRST WHITE that had contact with BINI. Hence, other Europeans came and HYPE THEM.

NubiLove:




You also don't have facts, what you have is oral tradition that is likely to have been distorted to make ancient Benin Kingdom seem bigger than what it really was.

Come up with hard evidence like: archeological pieces, manuscripts (ancient text), scientific link (DNA) etc... then your point may seem valid. For now it is just a bunch of fairy tales.

@legendsilver


Even what these people are saying is not oral tradition of their history.
Bini area is very small and they have only a handful of importance chiefs who can fit one hall

Their claim to oduduwa started recently, it was first made public by the last oba of benin, oba erediuwa. Hostilities with the Yoruba started with akensua who felted uncomfortable with his ego bowing to the Ooni and Alaafin at the old western council of traditional rulers. It is all inferiority complex, very uncomfortable feeling for egoistic people like the Binis


There is no evidence to back up their claims, not in their very own land and traditions is there evidence that oduduwa is from Igodomigodo

OlaoChi:


@legendsilver


Even what these people are saying is not oral tradition of their history.
Bini area is very small and they have only a handful of importance chiefs who can fit one hall

Their claim to oduduwa started recently, it was first made public by the last oba of benin, oba erediuwa. Hostilities with the Yoruba started with akensua who felted uncomfortable with his ego bowing to the Ooni and Alaafin at the old western council of traditional rulers. It is all inferiority complex, very uncomfortable feeling for egoistic people like the Binis


There is no evidence to back up their claims, not in their very own land and traditions is there evidence that oduduwa is from Igodomigodo

Who owns the title "Oba" ?

Olu317:
There were no record of BINI HISTORY'S CONNECTION TO WEST AFRICA OR EVEN AFRICA. That's where to look at it from and do finding. Else, you will make some of them still feel a bit on a pride side. They had no history without Yoruba and will have no history without YORUBA CONNECTION. AFONSO DE AVEIRO (1585—1586)WAS THE FIRST WHITE that had contact with BINI. Hence, other Europeans came and HYPE THEM.

Benin had a huge empire and its capital was named Benin City, here is proof:
Below is a pre-colonial map drawn in the 17th century.
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=biafra?rk=21459;2

@OlaoChi

Why did all Yoruba monarchs copy the Benin title "Oba" ?
Why did Dahomey copy the Benin name and rename itself "Benin Republic" ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2Tac1gNPU

OlaoChi:


bowing to the Ooni and Alaafin at the old western council of traditional rulers.

Prove this your claim.
I am tired of all the lies you guys keep repeating in here.

history2901:
Who owns the title "Oba" ?


Why did all Yoruba monarchs copy the Benin title "Oba" ?
Why did Dahomey copy the Benin name and rename itself "Benin Republic" ?

"In those days Oyo empire stretched from Kisi(Niger state) to the eastern banks of the volta river(volta region Ghana). Yorubas under the protection of Oyo took routes through the empire to Accra to trade with the people there.

Because of Oyo had covered all the routes, Bini decided to use the coast, Bini covered all the coastline (that is why the area is called "Bight of Benin". Then modern country of benin Republic adopted the name from the "bight of benin" like biafra adopted it's name from the "Bight of biafra"
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"oba" is a Yoruba word from the verb "ba" which means "to rule/control the affairs".

The first time "Oba " was used in Bini was by Oranmiyan. Earlier kings went by "ogie" or "ogiso"

In Ife, there used to be 13 communities each with its own Oba I.e. Oba of ijugbe, oba of iwinrin, oba of idio etc
All these obas later came under Oduduwa.

Oba is originally an Ife title that spread to everywhere Ife people went including Bini

history2901:

Benin had a huge empire and its capital was named Benin City, here is proof:
Below is a pre-colonial map drawn in the 17th century.
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=biafra?rk=21459;2

Who drew the Map? Why did all the maps provided by you people didn't have Mahin(Ugbo/Igbo/ ILAJE grouping)? What about Itsekiri? This still pointed out to one thing, that the people who did that map as at this time, didn't realise people of greater number and importance to even small town called BINI lived in the interior of Savannah.
Bénin in (dahomey account against Yoruba) www​.newworldencyclopedia.org/.../
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Dahomey

That was the account of another kingdom, witnessed and recorded account by both British and French of a kingdom, Who fought against Yoruba. And at one time paid tributes to Yoruba Kingdom. How come you didn't fight Ebira Kingdom when in fact, you claimed mighty Edo? Ebira have no knowledge of prowess BINI MILITARY WAREFARE. This same Ebira knows Yoruba story,fought against Yoruba. Tapa Fought against Yoruba . The record is there that showed this. SHOW ME ONE KINGDOM THAT HAD KNOWLEDGE OF BINI MILITARY DOMINANCE FOR 10 YEARS ONLY? Yoruba culture is too strong to be subdued. My friend, You had no history before Yoruba and without Yoruba, you have no history.

It is getting very hard to discuss with your ilks.
You just keep making unsubstantiated claims.
For your information there are documents written during the colonial era which show that only the Oba of Benin was holding the title "Oba".
That proves that the Yoruba chiefs copied it.
I am getting tired of your oduduwa fairytale. Let us talk about real history, not about demi-gods.
Why do you keep saying Bini instead of Benin ?
I wonder if you do realize that Benin is a name which belongs to the Edo and the Benin empire. (The name doesn't belong to Benin republic)
I also wonder if you realize that Dahomey renamed itself Benin republic only after independence from france.
You seem very confused.
Wait a minute I can remember that I already corrected you on some of these issues on an other nairaland page.
Conclusion: you are brain dead.

Olu317:
Who drew the Map? This still pointed out to one thing, that the people who did that map as at this time, didn't realise people of greater number and importance to even small town called BINI lived in the interior of Savannah.
Bénin in (dahomey account against Yoruba) www​.newworldencyclopedia.org/.../
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Dahomey

That was the account of another kingdom, witnessed and recorded account by both British and French of a kingdom, Who fought against Yoruba. And at one time paid today tributes to Yoruba Kingdom. How come you didn't fight Ebira Kingdom when in fact, you claimed mighty Edo? Ebira have no knowledge of prowess. This same Ebira knows Yoruba story and didn't influence Yoruba. SHOW ME ONE KINGDOM THAT HAD KNOWLEDGE OF BINI MILITARY DOMINANCE FOR 10 YEARS ONLY? Yoruba culture is too strong to be subdued. My friend, You had no history before Yoruba and without Yoruba, you have no history.

1) Every information needed is on the webpage hosting the map.
2) This is not the only pre-colonial map which states exactly the same thing. These maps were done by different explorers.
3) I am actually providing proof for my claims and even after that you are asking irrelevant questions and in order to bring the proof to disrepute you flat out make stuff up.
4) Perharps you should stop confusing the preset with the past. Also you need to learn the difference between an empire and its capital.
You see Benin City was the capital of Benin empire. just like Rome was the capital of the Roman empire !!!
The capital is generally much smaller than the empire !!!!
Dude are you crazy ? Is a conversation possible ?
I bring you a map made hundreds of years ago by explorers visiting our ancestors, you say that that is rubbish and then you bring me an unsubstantiated story, and to you that is much better than the hard evidence which I brought.
Look Why did Dahomey rename itself to carry the name Benin ? Benin is the Edo name !!!!!
Also the british never fought Dahomey !!!

Olu317:
Who drew the Map? This still pointed out to one thing, that the people who did that map as at this time, didn't realise people of greater number and importance to even small town called BINI lived in the interior of Savannah.
Bénin in (dahomey account against Yoruba) www​.newworldencyclopedia.org/.../
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Dahomey

That was the account of another kingdom, witnessed and recorded account by both British and French of a kingdom, Who fought against Yoruba. And at one time paid today tributes to Yoruba Kingdom. How come you didn't fight Ebira Kingdom when in fact, you claimed mighty Edo? Ebira have no knowledge of prowess. This same Ebira knows Yoruba story and didn't influence Yoruba. SHOW ME ONE KINGDOM THAT HAD KNOWLEDGE OF BINI MILITARY DOMINANCE FOR 10 YEARS ONLY? Yoruba culture is too strong to be subdued. My friend, You had no history before Yoruba and without Yoruba, you have no history.

The guys defending the "Yoruba-narrative" (eg Olu317) are not being reasonable.
I am quite tired of talking to people who keep acting like mental patients.
These guys confuse the present and the past, they confuse an empire and its capital. They can't understand the concept that a city in a country can not be as big as the country. Following these guys logics rome was also a small town and never an empire !
these guys rank bear parlour stories above historical documents.
This fooool is telling me Benin had no influence in the region while at the same time he talks about "Benin republic", a country previously called Dahomey and which renamed itself after the Benin empire !
Please Yaba-left, stop giving the internet to your patients, they are disturbing the natural order of things.

It seems I forgot that olu317 is a crazy fellow, I can now remember encountering him on an other nairaland page.