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| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by KaptainAfrika: 9:58am On May 04, 2017 |
Covenant university will lose any case brought against it. But you know the owner is the personal confessor of some of our top government officials. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Lancelott(m): 10:59am On May 04, 2017 |
KaptainAfrika:It's just painful... members are defending their church instead of the truth. If someone is attending seventh day adventist that worship on Saturdays, do you force them to church on Sundays? is that not a breach of rights? Imagine you don't celebrate Easter, will you attend Easter retreat? let's be factual |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by aduje(m): 11:03am On May 04, 2017 |
maclatunji:Many of us Nigerians and by extension, Africans (Blacks) sign dotted lines without critically reading the terms and conditions. Do not think that the school authority will be this naive. It is possible each student signed certain clauses subjecting them to adhere to these kind of instruction while and when they were accepting the provisional offer of admission. Those laws can or may not be found in the schools book of law or constitution or whatever name it is called. When you choose to go to those glorified secondary schools all in the name of standard, that is what you get. There are so many laws in that school. what to eat, when to eat, where to eat etc. Sometimes I wonder, is this an university? |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by maasoap(m): 11:10am On May 04, 2017 |
abouqi:You're the one who is supposed to make use of your grey matter. You don't just support everything because you felt like doing so. Did the university take time to listen to the individual student to find out why they missed the "part" of the four day programme before punishing all of them based on the number of days they missed? One year suspension for missing a programme! |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by maasoap(m): 11:11am On May 04, 2017 |
willjoe:It takes scum to identify one, they must have been abundant in your family. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by maasoap(m): 11:14am On May 04, 2017 |
TerrorSquad147:Don't doubt it. He will go to jail for failing to protect his child, wickedness and negligence. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by willjoe: 11:48am On May 04, 2017 |
maasoap:i've seen u'r a zombie, proly from d north. Im not amazed, you pple only go to school, u dnt knw what education means. If u want to reply me, go get abundant wisdom cos if ur mention me again, without that, i'd regard u as a dastard. Thanks |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by dotun365: 11:55am On May 04, 2017 |
TerrorSquad147:If they had flogged them people will shout. If they tell them to do community service people would shout that they are treating them like labourers. A suspension is a normal punishment it allows you to take time off to rethink your reason for disobeying the rules. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by maclatunji(op): 12:09pm On May 04, 2017 |
aduje:Certain rules are ultra vires and of no effect ab initio. Signing them does not make them valid. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by maasoap(m): 12:13pm On May 04, 2017 |
willjoe:Calling people names must have been part of wisdom you acquired through your education or family trait. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by maasoap(m): 12:17pm On May 04, 2017 |
dotun365:You can't flog an adult, even flogging kids is considered an abuse. Community service is the best. Suspension for a year in this case can derail careers of many of the students. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by TerrorSquad147: 1:14pm On May 04, 2017 |
dotun365:I understand, the school should tamper justice with mercy, especially for those that have some months, a year or two to go |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by bezimo(m): 1:56pm On May 04, 2017 |
wirinet:You react to my submission then contradict yourself. That the student signed legally binding documents that perhaps stated that they shall obey all instructions and rules passed by the school and you imply they were either ignorant of what they signed or trivialised what they sign as null and void is ludicrous and laughable... I presume you work.. when a work document has your signature, that document is binding in any court of law whether you were ignorant of what you signed or not... You perhaps are smart enough to know that. Oh CU is not a faith based institution, questions. The way CU is run and the way a Conventional University like say Uniben is run, are they the same? Do students in conventional universities sign undertaken when admitted? I don't remember signing one when I was a student. The establishment of CU was based on what vision, compared with a conventional University are they the same? How was CU built compared to a conventional University? CU is church built, established and sustained, Conventional universities are either govt or state built. So your statement of CU not a faith based institution because they obtained license from NUC is lame and unfounded. The conclusion of this matter is simple, while I hope and pray the CU management would reconsider their stand of suspension for the students disobedience of the school rules and instructions. However, CU cannot be faulted in any respect because students who were admitted and now affected committed by putting their signature on documents requiring them to agree to obey all rules and instructions passed by the school from time to time. As a student if you won't or can't obey the rules of CU then don't seek to become a student of CU, go somewhere else. After all like some folks would say. It isn't by school!! |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Orpe7(m): 2:19pm On May 04, 2017 |
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| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by dotun365: 2:37pm On May 04, 2017 |
maasoap:In real life and in societies we usually look up to, Suspensions are usually for disobedient behaviours while community service for physical wrongs and there must be a power to enforce e.g courts and police. In my place of work like many other places of work, if you flaunt a rule you are suspended |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by EKPETI(m): 3:43pm On May 04, 2017 |
After reading all what u have posted, my point is this nobody is perfect. Our so called CONSTITUTION is not that correct too. But CU is training people and their selling point is DISCIPLINE. See, people are trying to break the standard of CU. Mind u CU has lawyers too..... Note: CU has modul oprandi which must be followed. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by doovers(m): 4:28pm On May 04, 2017 |
maclatunji:stop quoting law like a false prophet. Even though i'm not a fan of the ridiculous suspension spree. the law is the law section 38(3) states that 'No religious community or denomination shall be prevented from providing religious instruction for pupils of that community or denomination in any place of education maintained wholly by that community or denomination.' CU has the constitutional right to provide religious instruction for its pupil of the Canaan land community in which CU students are a part of. since they signed up for it with and are aware of what they are to face. why should you after sleeping on your right com back and cry foul. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by doovers(m): 4:36pm On May 04, 2017 |
maclatunji:Bros read and analyze section 38(3) of the constitution |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by maclatunji(op): 6:18pm On May 04, 2017 |
doovers:An Easter programme is not crucial to your faith as a Christian. On that score you will fail woefully if the students go to court. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by nwakibie3(m): 6:47pm On May 04, 2017 |
Afrokan:It's not by force to be student of CU. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Withambition(m): 6:48pm On May 04, 2017 |
abouqi:The fact that a thief has not been caught or arraigned does not mean his acts of stealing is legal. That CU has never been challenged does not make their regulation or acts arising from same legal. The constitution is Supreme and it's provisions shall have binding force on all authorities and persons (including CU) throughout the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Any law that is inconsistent with the provisions of the constitution shall to the extent of its inconsistency be void. In fact, such inconsistent law is a nullity even if it was made before the constitution. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by CeeKay17: 7:02pm On May 04, 2017 |
divinelove:So not attending a church program makes them "demonic"? I weep for Nigeria. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by doovers(m): 9:19pm On May 04, 2017 |
:Du maclatunji:I don't get what you're saying. the premise of my position is on that section. it makes the act of the school not illegal |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Akainzo(m): 11:46pm On May 04, 2017 |
uzolexis:You are applying the Freedom of Religion wrongly as you are confusing "Practice" with "Religion". Pentecostal, Anglican, Catholic, Presbyterian, Baptist, Winners, Christ Embassy or Redeemed are all the SAME religion, or aren't they? I'd suggest you read the constitution and see what it actually defines what constitutes a violation of the religious freedom. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Lancelott(m): 12:44am On May 05, 2017 |
doovers:My dear stop analysing nonsense from that section... go through the citations the op gave. I called 5 senior lawyers to seek their opinions, it was the same... people that have practised law for over 20 years said it. What CU did is illegal ogbeni which law school you attend?? so if someone is attending seventh day Adventist(Saturday church) they must attend Sunday AGAINST THEIR BELIEFS?? Or like some denominations that don't celebrate Christmas nor Easter, why will such attend an Easter programme but they are Christians. The constitution also gives freedom to practice their beliefs... that section you quoted was mentioned by one of the lawyers casually and he said it only applies in extreme cases like vandalism and some others not cases like missing Easter retreat. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by maclatunji(op): 7:11am On May 05, 2017 |
doovers:The section you quoted implies that a religious school can teach religion, it does not say the students must attend every religious programme organized by the school outside their academic work. A university student can only be suspended based on academics or conduct relating to criminality not attendance of a contrived religious event. It is not even fundamental to being a Christian. Where in the Bible does it say you must attend Easter event? |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by uzolexis(f): 8:33am On May 05, 2017 |
Akainzo:The people I quoted below explained better. CU has no right to punish them for not attending a church program even if they are Christians. Lancelott: Lancelott: |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Akainzo(m): 2:19pm On May 05, 2017 |
uzolexis:You know one fallacy that keeps ringing hollow: citing senior lawyers with decades of experiences, such means nothing -ZILCH! Note that at EVERY single case decided by the Supreme Court, one senior lawyer with such decades of experience is told, YOU ARE WRONG. Simple. I asked you again, which of their rights has been denied? They are clearly practicing Christians who went into an agreement knowing the rules ab initio and broke those rules and were duly suspended. For me, they could sue for wrongly suspension, demand compensation for loss of time or money due to failure to write exams BUT to sue on fundamental right to religion would be a waste of time and resources. As always until it is tested in court, no position for or against can be determined to be the correct one. |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Akainzo(m): 2:24pm On May 05, 2017 |
Lancelott:Let me give you this hypothetical situation: You check into an hotel which clearly stated it is a Non-Smoking facility and you signed at the reception that you will not smoke. You however were caught smoking and thrown out. Would you be suing to enforce your fundamental rights of choice? |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Kenny(m): 2:28pm On May 05, 2017 |
You agreed, with no compulsion, to apply to study at the university, therefore "Take its takes, and offer its offers". |
| Re: The Illegality Of Covenant University Students’ Suspension By School Management by Lancelott(m): 12:13am On May 06, 2017 |
Akainzo:Is it listed that you must attend all church programmes I ask again, if you are a member of seventh day Adventist or deeper life I think that does not celebrate Easter, so you'll compulsorily attend Easter programmes knowing fully well its against your belief. Contracts have what you call clauses my dear. Don't argue based on the principles of the church, CU is recognized as a separate entity trust and as such is billed that way. They cannot impose their beliefs of the church on members of other churches. So if they suck human blood on Wednesdays, that means you'll join them because you signed up for the tenements of a school and not a sect... look at the case of courtouise and Chelsea. when they loaned him to athletico, they signed an agreement that he won't play against Chelsea but he did..do you know why?? because the football law super cedes their agreement. The constitution provides loop holes for such agreements. |
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