laudate:


Hehehehe...you lot like deceiving yourselves sha. The Chinese you mentioned, have you visited their country? Their cities are some of the most developed in the world, with great infrastructure & technically skilled people. Same goes for several Asian countries like Singapore, Indonesia etc. They do not go to other countries to denigrate their hosts, or claim a non-existent prowess or flaunt a superiority that they do not possess, which your guys are fond of doing.

Those Chinese and Asians do not seek salvation or economic prosperity elsewhere, without developing their own communities first. Unlike your kinsmen.

As for that claim you made about being "still the most educated....So the skilled jobs in your place we take some slice off it and still have our jobs back home to ourselves." I had to laugh out loud. Did you conduct a survey before you arrived at this conclusion? If you have taken the skilled jobs at home and elsewhere, why do your people still cry about marginalisation?

Mr, where have you been in this country and I do not want to mention other countries, okay. Just name it. You cannot compare the economic impact the igbos have in this country based on number of people with other ethnic group. If you come to the north, apart from the indigenous hausas in the communities, name one other ethnic group that has any impact on their economy than the igbos. Is it in Kano? do you know that airport road, nomansland, sabon gari, some parts of badawa layout in kano are all dominated by igbos and check the level of businesses done in those areas, then you know what the igbos are doing there. Do you know that igbos compete favourably with the yorubas even in their own domain? Is it Lagos, Ibadan, sarki, akure, etc? Brother, apart from companies which they shared between themselves and gained so much economic advantage in the 70's, the yoruba have not in any dominated economic activities in any part of the country apart from their homelands.

caracas:

Who told u they have more richer ppl
Pls say what you know cos the North is the poorest region in the country .

The north has the richest people in the country and I know what i am saying.

Develpeast:
Mr, where have you been in this country and I do not want to mention other countries, okay. Just name it. You cannot compare the economic impact the igbos have in this country based on number of people with other ethnic group. If you come to the north, apart from the indigenous hausas in the communities, name one other ethnic group that has any impact on their economy than the igbos. Is it in Kano? do you know that airport road, nomansland, sabon gari, some parts of badawa layout in kano are all dominated by igbos and check the level of businesses done in those areas, then you know what the igbos are doing there. Do you know that igbos compete favourably with the yorubas even in their own domain? Is it Lagos, Ibadan, sarki, akure, etc? Brother, apart from companies which they shared between themselves and gained so much economic advantage in the 70's, the yoruba have not in any dominated economic activities in any part of the country apart from their homelands.

You don't get the point, do you? If your south-eastern states are so viable and prosperous, then why do most of your citizens migrate to other parts of Nigeria? If they have so much economic clout, and they have dominated the commercial landscape, then your people should not be crying about being marginalised. Simple!

laudate:


You don't get the point, do you? If your south-eastern states are so viable and prosperous, then why do most of your citizens migrate to other parts of Nigeria? If they have so much economic clout, and they have dominated the commercial landscape, then your people should not be crying about being marginalised. Simple!

The reason why you guys will be dominated is that you haven't gotten used to the concept of economic expansion


So Nigeria is better than China that made Chines flock here


Or was Africa better than Europe that made Brits leave their land to come down


I give up

ariesbull:
The reason why you guys will be dominated is that you haven't gotten used to the concept of economic expansion

So Nigeria is better than China that made Chines flock here

Or was Africa better than Europe that made Brits leave their land to come down

I give up

Yeah, I understand why you gave up. You could not justify why your folks keep chanting 'marginalisation', alongside the so-called economic impact with the commercial clout your people claim to have. What a pity.

laudate:


You don't get the point, do you? If your south-eastern states are so viable and prosperous, then why do most of your citizens migrate to other parts of Nigeria? If they have so much economic clout, and they have dominated the commercial landscape, then your people should not be crying about being marginalised. Simple!

The southeast is not less prosperous as their other geopolitical zones. The southeastern people are a people that are opportunistic in nature. They look for opportunity and if they find one, they make good use of it. Do you think the people living in the east are poor or wretched? they are not. there are quite a number of millionaires and billionaires in the east as we speak but when you look at it well, when the number of people doing your line of trade have been saturated, then there is a need to move. the movement did not start today, the movement started in the 80s. When the number of traders filled up the onitsha, owerri and aba markets, they started moving out. Most of these decisions were made during yearly end of the year meeting with brothers and kinsmen. they discuss about the places they have been and the opportunities there in, seeing that there might be better opportunities, the ones that think they are not making much profits follow their brother to the location while they take with them their boys who they later make owners of their businesses. the pattern continues to grow and grow until they filled up the different places you see now. That is the number of reason if you are an igbo man, they ask you if you have joined an 'otu', that is a group. so that you wont be lost about the happenings in the particular place you are staying.

the igbos are marginalised because the facilities needed to expand their economic base are not present. they know they can achieve more if the amenities are present in the east but since they are not present and these amenities are present in other parts of the country, then they must feel marginalised. Because you can drink gari doesnt mean if there is an opportunity to eat fried rice, you will not eat it. The system has marginalised igbos because they are been strangled by the way the government runs it activity.

laudate:


You and this your propaganda that cannot be substantiated. Una no dey tire? What was the volume of shares Awolowo bought in each of those companies you listed here? Oya, publish the details sharp-sharp!

When foreign companies decide to invest in a country, the govt is free to give tax breaks and incentives to help them establish their businesses locally, due to the fact that their operations will generate employment and income for its citizens. Awolowo must have provided those incentives, as part of his functions as Premier of the old Western region. Even MTN was given a 10-year tax holiday due to its pioneer status, when it decided to set up operations in Nigeria.

All the companies quoted there are PLCs (i.e. Public Liability Companies or Public Limited Companies). Their stocks are freely traded on the Nigerian Stock Exchange and citizens from all walks of life, freely buy and sell their shares on a daily basis. Among their share holders are Efik, Kanuri, Ibibio, Yoruba, Bura, Itsekiri, Igala, Hausa, Ebira, Tiv, Mumuye, Bachama, Nupe, Igbo etc. people from the length and breadth of Nigeria.

If a publicly quoted company makes profit, all its shareholders are paid dividends including the Igbo ones. If they lose money, all the shareholders also lose money, including the Igbo ones. Now, if its true that Awolowo owned shares in those companies you listed.... in your own view, you believe Awolowo committed a crime by buying shares in publicly quoted companies, and earning returns from his shares? How ridiculous can you get? Every Nigerian at home and abroad, is free to buy shares in any Plc company of their choice! So why belittle Awolowo for doing something that every other citizen has the legal right to do?

Ok, please try not to feel pained by the fact that Awolowo was rich in intellect, funds and material things while he was alive. It only shows that he was an astute manager of men and resources.

I didn't write that.....It was Google sir

Develpeast:
The southeast is not less prosperous as their other geopolitical zones. The southeastern people are a people that are opportunistic in nature. They look for opportunity and if they find one, they make good use of it. Do you think the people living in the east are poor or wretched? they are not. there are quite a number of millionaires and billionaires in the east as we speak but when you look at it well, when the number of people doing your line of trade have been saturated, then there is a need to move. the movement did not start today, the movement started in the 80s. When the number of traders filled up the onitsha, owerri and aba markets, they started moving out. Most of these decisions were made during yearly end of the year meeting with brothers and kinsmen. they discuss about the places they have been and the opportunities there in, seeing that there might be better opportunities, the ones that think they are not making much profits follow their brother to the location while they take with them their boys who they later make owners of their businesses. the pattern continues to grow and grow until they filled up the different places you see now. That is the number of reason if you are an igbo man, they ask you if you have joined an 'otu', that is a group. so that you wont be lost about the happenings in the particular place you are staying.

the igbos are marginalised because the facilities needed to expand their economic base are not present. they know they can achieve more if the amenities are present in the east but since they are not present and these amenities are present in other parts of the country, then they must feel marginalised. Because you can drink gari doesnt mean if there is an opportunity to eat fried rice, you will not eat it. The system has marginalised igbos because they are been strangled by the way the government runs it activity.

Stop contradicting yourself. If the South-East is not less prosperous than other parts of Nigeria, then they should not complain about marginalisation. It is only less prosperous, less endowed, and less viable communities that should complain about marginalisation.

laudate:


Stop contradicting yourself. If the South-East is not less prosperous than other parts of Nigeria, then they should not complain about marginalisation. It is only less prosperous, less endowed, and less viable communities that should complain about marginalisation.

if you had followed my statement with clear mind, then you should understand what i am driving at. Better opportunities in that sense means that there are less competition in those places when compared to their present location.

ariesbull:
I didn't write that.....It was Google sir

Was Google the author of that piece? Someone posted it online, that was why you were able to search for it on Google. And you decided to repost the defective article, without verifying if it was true or accurate, or if it was something spun from the imagination of the writer? Only clueless people do that.

Develpeast:
if you had followed my statement with clear mind, then you should understand what i am driving at. Better opportunities in that sense means that there are less competition in those places when compared to their present location.

Guy, you are the one that lacks a clear mind. How can a person from an economically prosperous area, who claims to possess economic and commercial clout still be complaining of marginalisation? You sef, check am nah!

[quote author=zxcvb post=56389456]

Guy God bless you and ur family
Your parents money on u wasn't a waste.
From this little piece of urs I HV learnt something today
I'm pretty sure that fool will get off ur mention.
just watch as those ignorant and hate filled set refuse to counter this as though they never saw it.
Once again God bless u...
If to say we fit see now I for buy u lunch lol
[/quote

It has already been properly countered. But the brilliant guy did not quote him. It's you jump comments in a hurry.

laudate:

Guy, you are the one that lacks a clear mind. How can a person from an economically prosperous area, who claims to possess economic and commercial clout still be complaining of marginalisation? You sef, check am nah!

Excellent submission

zxcvb:


Guy God bless you and ur family
Your parents money on u wasn't a waste.
From this little piece of urs I HV learnt something today
I'm pretty sure that fool will get off ur mention.
just watch as those ignorant and hate filled set refuse to counter this as though they never saw it.
Once again God bless u...
If to say we fit see now I for buy u lunch lol

Pazienza countered without quoting him. Scroll back and see for yourself. It's just a little above your comments.

slurryeye2:


Be massaging your ego with monumental ignorance. You are entitled to your limited knowledge. I'm quite sure you haven't travelled beyond your village and Lagos. By the time you travel abroad (by abroad I mean western countries like Canada, USA, UK, Scandinavia countries etc and not cambodia, malaysia, vietnam, phillipines, Indonesia) reality will slap you in the face just like he has done many of your brothers I have met here in Canada. Many of them licking Yoruba asses up and down. The ratio of Igbos to Yorubas in Canada is like 1:4, that of USA is like 1:2, and UK will surely be up to if not more than 1:8. These figures are fact. Yorubas don't have to travel to your less developed region to show that they travel. God forbid us from moving backwards. Guess what these Yorubas do annually, they send multimillions of foreign currency to their family back home. Some of them even go back home to set up state of the art companies after spending years abroad.

The ratios you have just enumerated shows that Yoruba are too weak to compete and create thing's for themselves. They look for easy wealth and already made societies to sneak into. You can't find your people in tough terains. You people are simply given to consumption and little productivity .No wonder the many malls Ibadan is said to contain. The owambe spirit is too pervasive.

laudate:


Was Google the author of that piece? Someone posted it online, that was why you were able to search for it on Google. And you decided to repost the defective article, without verifying if it was true or accurate, or if it was something spun from the imagination of the writer? Only clueless people do that.

How can you say it's defective....Give us facts that the article is defective not emotional talks

[quote author=tifany89 post=56397524][/quote]
Nonsense. I have been on here since my early days of high school and when this tribal ways started heating up was when Obj was president and it was mostly igbos who tried to insult all yorubas because of how OBJ was pissing them off. Don't come and start playing victim...be honest for once.

deomelo:




And the above rubbish stopped YORUBA people from deporting you back to your village?


You are not even second class migrant, you are also inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

Like play like play we entered the house of assembly. Like play we we entered the house of representatives. Next up is senate... nothing you can do to stop it.

edi879:

Nonsense. I have been on here since my early days of high school and when this tribal ways started heating up was when Obj was president and it was mostly igbos who tried to insult all yorubas because of how OBJ was pissing them off. Don't come and start playing victim...be honest for once.

You lie but you are just living true to type

sarrki:



Channel your energy on developing the erosion disturbing your region it will do you and generation unborn a great thing

I can clearly see where u r channeling your own energy. By d tym u calculate ur CGPA, u would realize wat u ve done with ur tym

edi879:

Nonsense. I have been on here since my early days of high school and when this tribal ways started heating up was when Obj was president and it was mostly igbos who tried to insult all yorubas because of how OBJ was pissing them off. Don't come and start playing victim...be honest for once.

So you are no more Igbo? Thought you were claiming to be Igbo in ur previous post. You can't even be proud of your ethnicity or u think u can deceive us? Dude we are way too smart for that after all we see ur type every blessed day

tifany89:

So you are no more Igbo? Thought you were claiming to be Igbo in ur previous post. You can't even be proud of your ethnicity or u think u can deceive us? Dude we are way too smart for that after all we see ur type every blessed day

You look to be polite...so if you want to talk outside here, I'll gladly do so. Send me a private message and I'll prove to you I'm igbo. Anything you need to know. I don't care about the other Aturu...but I'll gladly oblige to you. Send me a PM If you really want to discuss.

laudate:


Stop contradicting yourself. If the South-East is not less prosperous than other parts of Nigeria, then they should not complain about marginalisation. It is only less prosperous, less endowed, and less viable communities that should complain about marginalisation.

Let a professor from the north marginalize me not somebody who should register for a fresh waec

edi879:

You look to be polite...so if you want to talk outside here, I'll gladly do so. Send me a private message and I'll prove to you I'm igbo. Anything you need to know. I don't care about the other Aturu...but I'll gladly oblige to you. Send me a PM If you really want to discuss.

Gbenga, maami is looking for you ohhhh

ariesbull:
How can you say it's defective....Give us facts that the article is defective not emotional talks

Where is the proof that Awolowo bought shares in all those companies you listed? Is there any annual report issued by any of those companies that shows Awolowo owns shares in such companies? Does any of the annual reports of those companies, include details of his shareholding and stock transfers? Guy, don't let me start, please. You are one of those that believes any rumour you read online, which is why you swallowed it hook, line and sinker!

victor8269:
Let a professor from the north marginalize me not somebody who should register for a fresh waec

Oh, you mean you have not even registered for your WAEC exams? Is that why you are looking for a Northern professor? I know quite a number of them, so if you send your name & phone number, I'll give them your details to coach you in your next exam. Now, why am I wasting time with a juvenile IPOBian youth like you?

Don't blame on the sunshine, don't blame it on the moonlight, don't blame it on Awo, blame it on the boogie. Why blame Awo and Tinubu for all your problems? I'm sure the SE have received over #1trillion in federal allocation since 1999. All your Governors, house of assembly members, senators, reps, counselors were they afinjas or were they imposed on you by Awo who died three decades ago?
We all have common enemies in Nigeria and the enemied are bad leadership and corruption. The Igbo must also learn to speak with one voice. I tell you this, Rocha's Okorocha was more known and more popular than osinbsjo in Yoruba land before 2015 elections yet the Yoruba's supported the relatively unknown osinbajo. If you have a chance to contest the 2019 presidential election who will your candidate be? Do you have s consensus candidate that is sellable across Nigeria? Will you speak with one voice? Until that day brother, until that day.

laudate:


Stop contradicting yourself. If the South-East is not less prosperous than other parts of Nigeria, then they should not complain about marginalisation. It is only less prosperous, less endowed, and less viable communities that should complain about marginalisation.

He is referring to the policies and projects of the FG. We all know that only the FG can execute mega projects of which the volume in the east is nothing compared with the West and North. As we speak now the FG has built one mega city each in the west and north. Every big or novel development projects are sited outside the east or connect south west to north west.

victor8269:

Gbenga, maami is looking for you ohhhh

Anumpam, go and suck Nnamdi Kanu nuts.

edi879:

You look to be polite...so if you want to talk outside here, I'll gladly do so. Send me a private message and I'll prove to you I'm igbo. Anything you need to know. I don't care about the other Aturu...but I'll gladly oblige to you. Send me a PM If you really want to discuss.

If truelly you are Igbo den I v just one piece of advice for u which is shine your eyes. These people u r defending don't love you. When the chips are down its gonna be your own people who will gat your back. Don't tell me you don't see all the hate and tribal slurs been thrown at the Igbos daily here. They are happy and rejoices whenever evil befall you. People that could condescend so low to the extent of mocking the deaths of millions of women and children that were murdered in cold blood by their forefathers. A people that have deliberately choosed to be blind to the pogroms that led to the war but instead choose to blame the Igbos for it. I can go on n on but there will be no need coz maybe you v choose to be blind to these injustice. Just a day on nairaland is enough for any smart discerning Igbo person to know that the hate is real but alas we must v to put with characters like Joe Idiotkwe and to some extent you

seniorkachion:
He is referring to the policies and projects of the FG. We all know that only the FG can execute mega projects of which the volume in the east is nothing compared with the West and North. As we speak now the FG has built one mega city each in the west and north. Every big or novel development projects are sited outside the east or connect south west to north west.

Guy, before you jump into the middle of my conversation with that guy, kindly go back to the preceding pages of this thread, and see his initial responses to my earlier comments. Maybe, hopefully my subsequent replies to him would make sense to you, and you would not burst in with this disjointed rejoinder!

amaridigital:
Don't blame on the sunshine, don't blame it on the moonlight, don't blame it on Awo, blame it on the boogie. Why blame Awo and Tinubu for all your problems? I'm sure the SE have received over #1trillion in federal allocation since 1999. All your Governors, house of assembly members, senators, reps, counselors were they afinjas or were they imposed on you by Awo who died three decades ago?
We all have common enemies in Nigeria and the enemied are bad leadership and corruption. The Igbo must also learn to speak with one voice. I tell you this, Rocha's Okorocha was more known and more popular than osinbsjo in Yoruba land before 2015 elections yet the Yoruba's supported the relatively unknown osinbajo. If you have a chance to contest the 2019 presidential election who will your candidate be? Do you have s consensus candidate that is sellable across Nigeria? Will you speak with one voice? Until that day brother, until that day.

This is what pisses me off so much about these Aturu ipobians. From the way they speak, you'd swear SE governors never got any federal allocations or whatsoever from 99. 90 percent of them are not holding the governors, senators, house of rep members responsible for anything, instead they'll go and blame the Yoruba or Hausa man like they held their FG allocations. Ok, they claim to be a very influential group, then why aren't they putting their people in power and trying to make a difference in SE?? No ooo all they do is have this delusion sense of grandeur and keep blabbing and blabbing over and over again. These guys are a joke. They are part of the reason why Nigeria is messed up just like every other tribe. Simple as that. I don't give a shit about any stupid Jewish ancestry. Truth is the truth and that is what will set us free.