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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Adefolakemi: 9:04am On May 12, 2017
willyboss:
Please house I need advice on this: My application was refused on PURPOSE OF VISIT because the vo wasn't "convinced" I would leave Canada on completion of my programme. In my application I included my assets and that members of my family are in Nigeria. I am not married. my purposed course of study is in line with my undergraduate degree. how do I CONVINCE the vo that I would leave? I thought I had that covered already.

UG: Mechanical Engineering(2011)
Intended course of study: Mechanical Engineering (M.Eng)
Work Experience: worked as a piping draughtsman/designer for about ten months but currently in partnership with a friend in his business(I provided evidence of this in my application)

Sorry about the delay. If you finished from uni in 2011 which is about 6 years ago and you have 10 months working experience in your field, i am guessing you have been doing this business with your friend for almost 4 years. I think the VO believes that you should be interested in furthering your studies to improve your business and not your undergraduate course.
This is just my thoughts. I don't really know so much.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 9:12am On May 12, 2017
Ejaloni123:

On a second thought, did you document this your friend's business during the application?
Yes I did.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Eraytee: 9:22am On May 12, 2017
willyboss:
Yes I did.
Bro I'll say it again if that business of yours/friend is not inline with your proposed course of study bearing in mind ur previous experience is just 10months. The said purpose of visit will surely be coming up.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 9:26am On May 12, 2017
emeify:


What is the nature of the business? Did you show enough funds and ties to Nigeria?
And what was the 'exact' reason for the delay
The business is sale of petroleum products, I showed enough funds and ties to Nigeria(members of my family are all in Nigeria and I provided assets and).
The VO stated that he/she is not "CONVINCED" that I would leave Canada on completion of my programme and ticked only "PURPOSE OF VISIT"
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 9:29am On May 12, 2017
Adefolakemi:


Sorry about the delay. If you finished from uni in 2011 which is about 6 years ago and you have 10 months working experience in your field, i am guessing you have been doing this business with your friend for almost 4 years. I think the VO believes that you should be interested in furthering your studies to improve your business and not your undergraduate course.
This is just my thoughts. I don't really know so much.
I finished Youth Service 2013, started working 2014 and only joined my friend's business March 2016
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 9:30am On May 12, 2017
Eraytee:

Bro I'll say it again if that business of yours/friend is not inline with your proposed course of study bearing in mind ur previous experience is just 10months. The said purpose of visit will surely be coming up.
How do I tackle this PLEASE?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by jj17cv(m): 9:34am On May 12, 2017
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 9:35am On May 12, 2017
SamReinvented:


This evidence that you submitted, does it include the following? Prove of registration and legal operation (CAC certificate, tax clearance, etc); a legal document that establishes your claim of partnership, clearly defining your stake in the business; the company's statement of account, to represent the size of it and its worth.
If not, what exactly are the evidence that you submitted?
Yes I included these documents
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Eraytee: 9:55am On May 12, 2017
willyboss:
I finished Youth Service 2013, started working 2014 and only joined my friend's business March 2016
Why are you sceptical to say the type of business bro, com out of your shell fully so that people can proffer help, business can be anything, even a yahoo boy go tell u say na business hin dey do. So what type of business are you doing with your friend?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by 4Gzus: 9:59am On May 12, 2017
tuzinde:


1.do not staple any
2. No need, much you can do is to arrange them, but this will also be done by the staff that will attend to you

Ok boss thanks
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 10:02am On May 12, 2017
Eraytee:

Why are you sceptical to say the type of business bro, com out of your shell fully so that people can proffer help, business can be anything, even a yahoo boy go tell u say na business hin dey do. So what type of business are you doing with your friend?
I mentioned it when I quoted @emeify above
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by tysaxmalomo: 10:02am On May 12, 2017
cheapphones:
If Canada claims that they're looking for professionals hence the purpose of express entry, I don't see a reason why the vo should then be bothered about an Msc student not coming back hence refusing them visa, it just doesn't add up. I tot it's countries that are doing everything to reduce immigration that should be concerned about your leaving immediately you finish whatever you're coming to do.
I'm just trying to make common sense, I know ee is entirely different from going to study but this is sth I've been wondering and I wonder if I'm the only one that sees it like that.
#JustRanting


While true that Canada is looking for immigrants, they also are not looking for persons who would become liabilities to the country.

Yes it is obvious that they know that 98% of those admitted to the country would not be heading back. home, this doesn't then mean that they'd admit everyone just because you got admission. Which is why they offer pgwp for those who have found it important to study and pass, so as to give them the opportunity to not only improve themselves, but also improve their economy in turn.

Most people who are not convincing about their studies, they know would end up adding absolutely nothing to the betterment of their country. Hence...

For example a 24 year old guy going to study and I'd being sponsored by parents by most standards would seem legit seeing as it is generally believed that no parent would spend so much just got the child to come and go and drop out...


Likewise, a 30-36 going for studies ahn spinnaker by self would probably carry a lot more scrutiny seeing as there are really no guarantees.

Everybody just has to learn to be analytical.......

Please note my example doesn't necessarily show the VO's train of thought, but mine from a purely analytical perspective.




All the best
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 10:11am On May 12, 2017
@michV and wealth360 please your opinion is needed
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by CanadianNurse: 10:17am On May 12, 2017
cheapphones:
If Canada claims that they're looking for professionals hence the purpose of express entry, I don't see a reason why the vo should then be bothered about an Msc student not coming back hence refusing them visa, it just doesn't add up. I tot it's countries that are doing everything to reduce immigration that should be concerned about your leaving immediately you finish whatever you're coming to do.
I'm just trying to make common sense, I know ee is entirely different from going to study but this is sth I've been wondering and I wonder if I'm the only one that sees it like that.
#JustRanting
haven't you thought about people that go there and runaway... The Don't go to the school they applied for... They enter Street and start committing fraud and other crimes to survive in the name of hustle? That is what they are trying to curb! They want to make sure you are a genuine student

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Adefolakemi: 10:41am On May 12, 2017
CanadianNurse:
haven't you thought about people that go there and runaway... The Don't go to the school they applied for... They enter Street and start committing fraud and other crimes to survive in the name of hustle? That is what they are trying to curb! They want to make sure you are a genuine student

This is so true. I once spoke to a friend in canada who knew someone in the embassy and he stated that he was told PGCs and diplomas mostly get delayed because statistics showed that a high percentage of them end up dropping out of their program or deferring to work thereby not resuming when they are supposed to.
I think we should do better. Everybody wants to go Canada but we should try to sort out our funds for at least the first year before leaving. If we have better reputation and statistics, Canada won't be scared to give us Visa.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Nobody: 10:45am On May 12, 2017
willyboss:
Please house I need advice on this: My application was refused on PURPOSE OF VISIT because the vo wasn't "convinced" I would leave Canada on completion of my programme. In my application I included my assets and that members of my family are in Nigeria. I am not married. my purposed course of study is in line with my undergraduate degree. how do I CONVINCE the vo that I would leave? I thought I had that covered already.

UG: Mechanical Engineering(2011)
Finished NYSC: 2013
Intended course of study: Mechanical Engineering (M.Eng)
Work Experience: worked as a piping draughtsman/designer for about ten months(2014) but currently in partnership(since March 2016) with a friend in his business(I provided evidence of this in my application)
the purpose of visit is clear because that BUSINESS I think has no relationship with MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. even if a program relates to our undergraduate let it also fall in line with our current activity/employment/job responsibilities in other to show career progression especially if you ain't a FRESH GRAGUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY. na we dey use our hands give ourselves ''purpose of visit''. in 2015 what were you doing as I sensed a GAP there? in 2016 till date you told the VO you do business in petroleum? na here purpose of visit begin show. The VO didn't see what MEng program in Mech.Eng would benefit to your current situation as a businessman.

so much work would have been done on your SOP to make things defined and clear and reasons for such postgraduate study(M.Eng), but I think it wasn't made clearer. TRV application requires smart thinking you have to think 360* degrees.

The Doc*

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Austinpee4: 11:02am On May 12, 2017
willyboss:
I graduated 2011 and worked as a piping draughtsman/designer for about ten months. I am currently in partnership with a friend in his business(I provided evidence of this in my application)
What year exactly did you stop working as a piping draughtman/designer to partner in your friend's business?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by CPA01: 11:02am On May 12, 2017
michV:
the purpose of visit is clear because that BUSINESS I think has no relationship with MECHNICAL ENGINEERING. even if a program relates to our undergraduate let it also fall in line with our current activity/employment/job responsibilities in other to show career progression especially if you ain't a FRESH GRAGUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY. na we dey use our hands give ourselves ''purpose of visit''. in 2015 what were you doing as I sensed a GAP there? in 2016 till date you told the VO you do business? na here purpose of visit begin show. The VO didn't see what MEng program in Mech.Eng would benefit to your current situation as a businessman.

my thought though

I dont even understand this purpose of visit thing anymore. If he opted for a businesses related course cos he is into business then we will say his undergraduate studies is not in line with proposed studies. I have seen someone on this thread that got this same purpose of visit with perfect course (Masters) and well related work experience.

Am thinking nowadays TRV is based on Overall profile of the applicant and sometimes poor SOP.

With due respect sir, what do you expect this applicant to do in this case?.. Do you expect him to start looking for job in his field?.. Kindly throw more light please.

My view: TRV is getting tougher nowadays. Nigerians have disappointed us in canada. We should all be prayerful and hopefull. All the best

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Austinpee4: 11:07am On May 12, 2017
Adefolakemi:


Sorry about the delay. If you finished from uni in 2011 which is about 6 years ago and you have 10 months working experience in your field, i am guessing you have been doing this business with your friend for almost 4 years. I think the VO believes that you should be interested in furthering your studies to improve your business and not your undergraduate course.
This is just my thoughts. I don't really know so much.
I agree with you completely

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by aykay45(m): 11:16am On May 12, 2017
Admission Status: Decision made.... In Memorial University, Newfoundland

I havent been contacted yet how can i know the Decision if its Accepted or Rejected, please i need help cos am considering applying to British Columbia which will end soon and i havent forwarded my transcript yet, i just want to get more info about Memorial University before i go ahead with that.

Thanks
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Austinpee4: 11:24am On May 12, 2017
michV:
the purpose of visit is clear because that BUSINESS I think has no relationship with MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. even if a program relates to our undergraduate let it also fall in line with our current activity/employment/job responsibilities in other to show career progression especially if you ain't a FRESH GRAGUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY. na we dey use our hands give ourselves ''purpose of visit''. in 2015 what were you doing as I sensed a GAP there? in 2016 till date you told the VO you do business in petroleum? na here purpose of visit begin show. The VO didn't see what MEng program in Mech.Eng would benefit to your current situation as a businessman.

so much work would have been done on your SOP to make things defined and clear and reasons for such postgraduate study(M.Eng), but I think it wasn't made clearer. TRV application requires smart thinking you have to think 360* degrees.

The Doc*
I also agree with you bro. The thing is, any slight shift away from a current activity, a visa officer suspicion about intentions will be high especially from we nigerians. They don't even trust our moves whether genuine or not. Everything must just add up from start to finish.

A VO may think, emm, this bros worked briefly in an area in mech, switch enter petroleum business and then wants to go back to get higher education in mech that he already left. Nothin like atleast one certification eg HSE or something that will show that this bros really get interest in mech even though he is briefly doing a business.

This way, they know you have shown interest in your career, have gone some steps further after undergraduate study to improve on it(work,research,seminar,conferences,certifications) and now want to get a more competitive and advantageous degree in a master.

Honestly, i feel for @willyboss. It's really heart breaking. Just that little gap between working as a piping draftman and venturing into the business without so much to look forward to evidentially as a mechanical engineer caught the VO's eye.

They just don't trust our slightest move! They believe we imploy all strategy to go to canada. It's really sad that genuine students also fall victim to this.

Sometimes, i believe our chances also depend on FAVOUR. Two different visa officers may see things differently.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by judebebo32: 11:32am On May 12, 2017
[quote author=willyboss post=56439739]Please house I need advice on this: My application was refused on PURPOSE OF VISIT because the vo wasn't "convinced" I would leave Canada on completion of my programme. In my application I included my assets and that members of my family are in Nigeria. I am not married. my purposed course of study is in line with my undergraduate degree. how do I CONVINCE the vo that I would leave? I thought I had that covered already.


You need to work on your SOP. Get your GCMS notes and let the gurus in the house help you with further advice.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Nobody: 11:35am On May 12, 2017
CPA01:


I dont even understand this purpose of visit thing anymore. If he opted for a businesses related course cos he is into business then we will say his undergraduate studies is not in line with proposed studies. I have seen someone on this thread that got this same purpose of visit with perfect course (Masters) and well related work experience.

Am thinking nowadays TRV is based on Overall profile of the applicant and sometimes poor SOP.

With due respect sir, what do you expect this applicant to do in this case?.. Do you expect him to start looking for job in his field?.. Kindly throw more light please.

My view: TRV is getting tougher nowadays. Nigerians have disappointed us in canada. We should all be prayerful and hopefull. All the best
bro lemme explain things further..just some months into business wouldn't earn him admission for MBA in Canada, I don't think so, many years of experience with projects in such business field may earn him a Masters admission in business despite his undergraduate as mech.engr. His sure bet for admission is his undergraduate background which got him the masters admission.

TRV application is entirely a different process to face facts and act smart. Like the other lady who studied French in UG, works in a telecom coy and going for masters in French. she got ''purpose of visit refusal'' even on top her funding from the intended school. According to the profile she stated, the VO has not seen what masters in French would benefit her current employment[telecom] for some years. if her job responsibilities/roles/position in telecom relate to French and explained that to the VO with her employment letter indicating such responsibilities and also the prospects after such study to her career, I don't think a VO would refuse her on that ground. Career progression is ascertained especially if you aren't a fresher from school. do you want to leave your 5/6/7..years in service for another field in this our naija economy wey work hard to get? it shows you have nothing to come back to after your studies which makes the VO skeptical. Also poor SOP is a factor too when the ideas are not detailed and organised.

I have seen a GCMS NOTE where the VO stated study plan is inconsistent with previous studies and employment. this indicates our SOPs too is a contributing factor

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by osewadare(m): 12:04pm On May 12, 2017
Good afternoon House, I am an Urban and Regional Planning Graduate 2016/FUTA graduated with CGPA 4.39/5.00 and I had 4.52, 4.62, 5.0, 4.98 in my last four semesters

I am about applying for the Environment and Geography Msc program in the University of Manitoba (Winter 2018 start)

Please I want to know if I stand the chance of admission and a fully paid scholarship. I noticed most of the scholarships are based on departmental nominations. Does it mean I will apply first and gracefully hope I am nominated for a scholarship. Thanks

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by oluwaCanny: 12:07pm On May 12, 2017
Osemigho:
LIST OF TRV HOPEFULS (SUMMER & FALL 2017)
1. Abiodunne October 5th, PGD, Conestoga. Paper route Medical Mail 14th february
2. Sundaydammy submission 13th oct, 2016 paper PGD mohawk college,
3. Ayos16, Submitted 22nd Dec,2016, Upfront Medical.
4. Atrapon January 9th,M.ed MUN, online route.
5. Ayoola03, 12th Jan, MESc UofWestern Ontario, paper route, Upfront Medical (passed).
6. Yamen21, Jan 13th, MSc MUN, Paper route, upfront medicals passed 27th Jan
7.Vinci500 January 18th, Msc. Uof BritColumbia, Online Route.
8. Tuzinde, February 1st, MEng Carleton university, paper route. Medical mail 24th April. Medical passed 12th May
9. Deckonne February 3rd, PGD Lambton, Upfront Medical. APPROVED 23rd February
10. VVVVVV February 18th,UDalhoiuse, Online Route, Upfront Medicals.
11. Yemdogg, February 21, MA, CMU, Paper Route.
12. Piethewitch, March 8th, ....Durham College, Paper route, Approved.
13. Proxy, March 11, PGC Georgian College, Online Route.
14. Akanmu2013, 14th march,online PGD Seneca college
15. Osemigho, March 14, MA, UofCalgary, Upfront Medical passed.
16. Trexxbanks,March 14th,PGD,Durham college,online route
17. Maxicon, March 14, PGD UWinnipeg, Upfront Medical, Paper route
18. Newman10100(lil bro), March 22, Master of Comp.sc URegina, online route.
19. Canadian nurse, March 28,university of Manitoba, paper route. Medical and Evidence of fee payment request on 04/05/2017.
20. Kprake9, March 29, Pilot training, Paper Route, Upfront Medical.
21. bdcity2, march 30, PGD, NSCC, paper route
22. aliACCA, March 31, MA, UoM, Paper Route, Upfront Medical Passed.
23. Ozzy 2, April 3rd, LLM, York University, Paper Route, Upfront Medical passed.
24. Darrelah, April 3rd, MSc, University of Regina, Online route
25. Maziude, April 17th, phd, uottawa,onliine route, Medical mail on 24/04. Medical passed 2/5/. PR-11/05
26. Kranjar, April 18, MA, UNB, paper route, upfront medical.
27. Ope100, April 19th, College Diploma, Holland College, Online route.
28. Folumade1, April 19, Humber College PGC Global Business Management, Paper route, upfront medical
29. newman1010 , April 22 Master of Finance, SMU, online route.
30. CPA01, April 25th, MBA, University of New Brunswick, paper route
31. Gfeuxay, April 27th, pgc, Centennial college, Paper route.
32. Tobyharze, April 28, PGC, Conestoga college, paper route, upfront medical.
33. Judebebo32 , April 28 , PhD University of Saskatchewan, online route. APPROVED on 09/05/2017
34. O2, May 2, Post Baccaleurate diploma Thompson Rivers University, paper route
35. tysaxmalomo, May 2, MA, CMU, Online route

Congrats to those approved, the delayed should repackage, restrategise, and reapply.

when you submit your TRV Application kindly update the house on your timeline.

It will end with praises.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Judgepelumi(m): 12:44pm On May 12, 2017
michV:
the purpose of visit is clear because that BUSINESS I think has no relationship with MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. even if a program relates to our undergraduate let it also fall in line with our current activity/employment/job responsibilities in other to show career progression especially if you ain't a FRESH GRAGUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY. na we dey use our hands give ourselves ''purpose of visit''. in 2015 what were you doing as I sensed a GAP there? in 2016 till date you told the VO you do business in petroleum? na here purpose of visit begin show. The VO didn't see what MEng program in Mech.Eng would benefit to your current situation as a businessman.

so much work would have been done on your SOP to make things defined and clear and reasons for such postgraduate study(M.Eng), but I think it wasn't made clearer. TRV application requires smart thinking you have to think 360* degrees.

The Doc*
Your thought 100% TRV Doc grin grin

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 12:44pm On May 12, 2017
I need GCMS notes please...somebody help!
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by willyboss: 12:55pm On May 12, 2017
Austinpee4:

What year exactly did you stop working as a piping draughtman/designer to partner in your friend's business?
December 2014, did a PGD in Process Piping Design and Engineering in 2015 then joined my friend's petroleum business March 2016
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Judgepelumi(m): 1:08pm On May 12, 2017
willyboss:
December 2014, did a PGD in Process Piping Design and Engineering in 2015 then joined my friend's petroleum business March 2016
Well..... I feel a good SOP would have done justice.
Sorry bro
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by Nobody: 1:17pm On May 12, 2017
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 12 by elimsme: 1:17pm On May 12, 2017
aykay45:
Admission Status: Decision made.... In Memorial University, Newfoundland

I havent been contacted yet how can i know the Decision if its Accepted or Rejected, please i need help cos am considering applying to British Columbia which will end soon and i havent forwarded my transcript yet, i just want to get more info about Memorial University before i go ahead with that.

Thanks




Memorial has a very crappy admission procedure, You might have to mail the department or the school to know the decision they made. If not, you might have to wait for abt 2 months before they send the hardcopy of their decision to you...

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