"For i YHWH, is a jealous god"

The question is who is Yahweh jealous of? Is it lifeless statues or his creations or other living gods like him?

To introduce myself, i'm a pantheist. I believe in the existence of other gods and that every humans have a spark of God in them.

The logic used by christians to prove that Joshua and his father Yahweh is/are the only living god is based on the following:

* Faith.
* The holy book is from above.

We have many tablets(e.g the sumerians one), scrolls, theories, myths, e.t.c that profess their various deities. Christians are no different from others, since others can also put their logic into use.

It is evident that the bible is a pirated and poorly written book. Most of their ideas were gotten from ancient egyptians( horus/jesus), sumerians (the flood, tower of babel, eden, e.t.c) tablets and mythology.

Christians have no prove that Yhwh is the only god and that Odin, Xango, Horus, and other gods never existed...

If their claim is based only on faith and a mere book, it's logical to conclude that other gods have also existed. Enki, Horus,.Zeus, Olympus, Atum and demigods like Hercules existed because of records and faith if we are to follow the christian logic.

Ok

coolesmile:
Ok

Welcome.

It seems only your talk is the evidence for your conclusion.

Anyways, everyone to his opinion

felixomor:
It seems only your talk is the evidence for your conclusion.

Anyways, everyone to his opinion

Hello Felimor. I'll like to know if you got any evidence to prove Yahweh is the only god in existence. I'll appreciate it.

Oloruntobi4382:
Hello Felimor. I'll like to know if you got any evidence to prove Yahweh is the only god in existence. I'll appreciate it.

I have my evidence
When I make a thread to proclaim it and u ask me this question
Then I would be obliged to answer

This is your thread
you made the claim
Your evidence should accompany.
Thats how it works

There is a group of religionists who believes "there is no other God but Allah".

I wonder why they are so sure.

Cc felixomor

felixomor:

I have my evidence When I make a thread to proclaim it and u ask me this question Then I would be obliged to answer
This is your thread you made the claim Your evidence should accompany. Thats how it works

If you say so.

Oloruntobi4382:
"For i YHWH, is a jealous god"

The question is who is Yahweh jealous of? Is it lifeless statues or his creations or other living gods like him?

To introduce myself, i'm a pantheist. I believe in the existence of other gods and that every humans have a spark of God in them.

The logic used by christians to prove that Joshua and his father Yahweh is/are the only living god is based on the following:

* Faith.
* The holy book is from above.

We have many tablets(e.g the sumerians one), scrolls, theories, myths, e.t.c that profess their various deities. Christians are no different from others, since others can also put their logic into use.

It is evident that the bible is a pirated and poorly written book. Most of their ideas were gotten from ancient egyptians( horus/jesus), sumerians (the flood, tower of babel, eden, e.t.c) tablets and mythology.

Christians have no prove that Yhwh is the only god and that Odin, Xango, Horus, and other gods never existed...

Do you want proof?
I am going to start by asking you this simple question.
Google it and tell me the answer,
Which religion of the world has the highest number of adherents?

paxonel:

Do you want proof?
I am going to start by asking you this simple question.
Google it and tell me the answer,
Which religion of the world has the highest number of adherents?

Biko, i know that xtians have the highest number but does number prove anything? besides christianity itself is divided. Christianity gained it's popularity also through it's bloody history of wars.

paxonel:
Do you want proof? I am going to start by asking you this simple question. Google it and tell me the answer, Which religion of the world has the highest number of adherents?

Christian, and your point is

I must admit... i like this oloruntobi guy..

Oloruntobi4382:
If their claim is based only on faith and a mere book, it's logical to conclude that other gods have also existed. Enki, Horus,.Zeus, Olympus, Atum and demigods like Hercules existed because of records and faith if we are to follow the christian logic.

May all the hidden benefits of the Universe locate you for mentioning the name of my god Atum, who currently is revealing all mysteries to me Otem his spiritual son. You may want to read up all the revelations I have written down so far. Pls do by visiting the link below:

We are all body parts of God(the highest consciousness) and no one can claim superiority over another. We existed together in God where there is nothing like time.

Oloruntobi4382:
If their claim is based only on faith and a mere book, it's logical to conclude that other gods have also existed. Enki, Horus,.Zeus, Olympus, Atum and demigods like Hercules existed because of records and faith if we are to follow the christian logic.

May all the hidden benefits of the Universe locate you for mentioning the name of my god Atum, who currently is revealing all mysteries to me Otem his spiritual son. You may want to read up all the revelations I have written down so far. Pls do by visiting the link below: https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos
We are all body parts of God(the highest consciousness) and no one can claim superiority over another. We existed together in God where there is nothing like time.

paxonel:

Do you want proof?
I am going to start by asking you this simple question.
Google it and tell me the answer,
Which religion of the world has the highest number of adherents?

This means that 2000 years ago when Zeus followers were more in number, Yahweh was not the supreme God by then, because he has lesser followers. Religion is indeed the opium of the masses. That APC has more members doesn't still make it a better party than the untested KOWA party.

Spiritual politics indeed...

OtemAtum:
This means that 2000 years ago when Zeus followers were more in number, Yahweh was not the supreme God by then, because he has lesser followers. Religion is indeed the opium of the masses. That APC has more members doesn't still make it a better party than the untested KOWA party.

Spiritual politics indeed...

When zeus followers were more in number 2000 years ago ,Yahweh predicted in the Bible that his followers will outnumbered that of zeus and all religions inspite all the persecution of early Christians, and that prediction has come to pass. THE FACT THAT HIS PREDICTION HAS COME TO PASS,WHICH WAS CLEARLY DOCUMENTED IN THE BIBLE, IS THE PROOF THAT YAHWEH REMAINS THE ONLY GOD.
Tell me any other god who has said something about humans years ago,and that thing has come to pass such that i can google it today?
What is that thing that the god has said?
I want to know.
now,you have googled the proofproof today and that fact will remain true forever because the number is still increasing.
You want logic? You have seen it now

hopefulLandlord:


Christian, and your point is

Read my last comment,you will get it

Oloruntobi4382:
Biko, i know that xtians have the highest number but does number prove anything? besides christianity itself is divided. Christianity gained it's popularity also through it's bloody history of wars.

I know,
We are divided,
We were evil,
We killed Galleleo.
Many athiests came out of christianity,
But inspite all these,there is something superior that still increasing our number.
Have you ever wondered why?
Christians were never perfect people but Yahweh remains perfect

paxonel:

When zeus followers were more in number 2000 years ago ,Yahweh predicted in the Bible that his followers will outnumbered that of zeus and all religions inspite all the persecution of early Christians, and that prediction has come to pass. THE FACT THAT HIS PREDICTION HAS COME TO PASS,WHICH WAS CLEARLY DOCUMENTED IN THE BIBLE, IS THE PROOF THAT YAHWEH REMAINS THE ONLY GOD.
Tell me any other god who has said something about humans years ago,and that thing has come to pass such that i can google it today?
What is that thing that the god has said?
I want to know.
now,you have googled the proofproof today and that fact will remain true forever because the number is still increasing.
You want logic? You have seen it now

Yahweh didn't predict anything. Pls quote a passage to back that up. However, Eusebius through the mouth of his fictitious character Jesus predicted that the gospel he wrote would be preached in all the world and then the whole world will come to an end. The gospel has been preached in every country in the world and the world did not come to an end. How about that? However, the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH also predicted that the world will not end even after the gospel of Eusebius has been preached all over the world. I will give you DOCTUFOS references to back this up.

DOCTUFOS: Karmish 12: 17-25

17. Now Haron said, now tell me what you say that the future would look like. And Meloch replied, the future will be filled with many wonderful things. 18. And the world shall be changed. And only few of these gods shall survive into the future, because the people of the future shall seem to be wiser than the people of the past. 19. And the knowledge of the god of this very Juda which you put into servitude shall be the last of the gods to dominate the world before the knowledge of the true God his father shall be known. 20. And Jupitus your own god shall have only his name named after a planet and after some material things, but his worship shall be abandoned altogether. 21. Now when Haron heard it, he said, it is enough O Meloch. For you have blasphemed Jupitus the god of all gods; the king of all kings. 22. For it is not possible that Yahweh the god of Juda shall be made popular in all the world. 23. And Nikan said, it is a thummim shown to Niklas our leader and shall you stop it from coming? For as no one can stop a dreamer from dreaming and as no one can stop a thinker from thinking, so can no one stop a thummim from happening. 24. For the universe is in order, bringing changes over itself all the times. 25. Now Haron said, depart two of you before I get more annoyed. So Meloch and Nikan departed the presence of the emperor.

Now observe the bolded, because it is now in fulfillment,because more and more people are beginning to see Yahweh as just one of the gods, whereas God the Universe, his creator is being seen as a matrix of all souls. There are more booktural passages to back it up.
Even Knoliud the light of God the Universe had predicted the reign of Yahweh his kid brother millions of years ago. See for yourself:

DOCTUFOS: ADSPIRAMEN 18: 4-6


4. And in the far future, I see two beliefs that shall be made to stand--the first shall stand through peace and the second shall stand through violence.

5. And these two beliefs shall resist the development of this planet greatly, until a time when it would no more be possible to suppress development.

6. And the founder of these two beliefs shall be one of the sons of God. They shall not cease to upgrade their beliefs every now and then to suit the time.

Oloruntobi4382:
Welcome.

your logic is zoo poor, it show that you do nor study the bible before you come to this conclusion. God will not force His will on you, it either you worship Him or reject Him.

All the verses that say God is jealous, the context is about making references to others god. the Hebrew word use to describe the jealously of God is qanna , in no place in the bible is this word use to describe the jealousy of man, qanna is a positive word ( zealous, zeal) the reason why God is jealous is because He want us to love Him.

the Hebrew word use to describe the jealousy of man is qana, it refers to a passionate jealousy or envy, or sexual passion, in no place in the bible is this word (qana) use to describe the jealous of God.

malvisguy212:
your logic is zoo poor, it show that you do nor study the bible before you come to this conclusion. God will not force His will on you, it either you worship Him or reject Him.

look at who is telling someone else that their logic is poor?

All the verses that say God is jealous, the context is about making references to others god. the Hebrew word use to describe the jealously of God is qanna , in no place in the bible is this word use to describe the jealousy of man, qanna is a positive word ( zealous, zeal) the reason why God is jealous is because He want us to love Him.

So there is now a type of God jealousy? is it special and by the way, you said making reference to other Gods? so Yahweh is now jealous of other God? is he insecure?

the Hebrew word use to describe the jealousy of man is qana it refers to a passionate jealousy or envy, or sexual passion, in no place in the bible is this word (qana) use to describe the jealous of God.

you dont even have shame at all @bolded

The Word Jealousy is a warning to you not to bite The Fingers that feed you.
God created Heaven and Earth and everything In them. He is warning you not to get lost with Money which is in them to the point of forgetting that He created the money.
God is God, The Supreme Spirit in Heaven and on Earth irrespective language differences.
Goi is YHWH to the Hebrew, Yahweh to the Greeks, Jehovah via Latin, Olodumare in Yoruba and God in Queen's English. He is not jealous of you and I. Neither is He jealous of any "Shigidi" in your compound. He is simply warning you that He created you before He gave you the Instruction and Knowledge to make that "Shigidi". That you must always recognise Him first before you act, interact and move is Faith. For God is TheFaith, The Hope, The Peace and The Love of all Creations.

orisa37:
The Word Jealousy is a warning to you not to bite The Fingers that feed you.
God created Heaven and Earth and everything In them. He is warning you not to get lost with Money which is in them to the point of forgetting that He created the money.
God is God, The Supreme Spirit in Heaven and on Earth irrespective language differences.
Goi is YHWH to the Hebrew, Yahweh to the Greeks, Jehovah via Latin, Olodumare in Yoruba and God in Queen's English. He is not jealous of you and I. Neither is He jealous of any "Shigidi" in your compound. He is simply warning you that He created you before He gave you the Instruction and Knowledge to make that "Shigidi". That you must always recognise Him first before you act, interact and move is Faith. For God is TheFaith, The Hope, The Peace and The Love of all Creations.

Na wa oh! Chai!!
You have now brought your own interpretation. In fact the holy spirit is confused, who should I listen to.

Look at what the passage said

Exodus 20:5 states, "You shall not bow down to them [other gods] or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God."

Titus 3:9.... "But avoid foolish questions"

OtemAtum:


May all the hidden benefits of the Universe locate you for mentioning the name of my god Atum, who currently is revealing all mysteries to me Otem his spiritual son. You may want to read up all the revelations I have written down so far. Pls do by visiting the link below: https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos
We are all body parts of God(the highest consciousness) and no one can claim superiority over another. We existed together in God where there is nothing like time.

Nice to know someone honours Atum. How did you find him? Btw, i checked the thread and it was good.

OtemAtum:
Yahweh didn't predict anything. Pls quote a passage to back that up. However, Eusebius through the mouth of his fictitious character Jesus predicted that the gospel he wrote would be preached in all the world and then the whole world will come to an end. The gospel has been preached in every country in the world and the world did not come to an end. How about that? However, the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH also predicted that the world will not end even after the gospel of Eusebius has been preached all over the world. I will give you DOCTUFOS references to back this up.



Now observe the bolded, because it is now in fulfillment,because more and more people are beginning to see Yahweh as just one of the gods, whereas God the Universe, his creator is being seen as a matrix of all souls. There are more booktural passages to back it up.
Even Knoliud the light of God the Universe had predicted the reign of Yahweh his kid brother millions of years ago. See for yourself:

This DOCTUFOS, correlate with Bible predictions in most aspect,only that, i sense there is a clash between the identity of Yahweh in DOCTUFOS with the identity of Yahweh in the Bible.
I think that's the problem.
Every other thing you say is perfectly correct except that Yahweh is the kid brother to the true God of the universe
I begin to wonder,how does this apply to reality?
But in christianity,we see Yahweh as the true God of the universe,whether he has elder brother it really do not matter because they are still one God,one spirit who pre determined existence. So our role is to worship that one God which we labelled Yahweh or Jesus Christ.
As for your claim that Yahweh did not predict anything in the Bible,
Google it, the parable of the mustards seed ,
Matthew 13:31-32
31 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven(The Christian religion) is like a mustard seed, which a man(Jesus christ himself) took and planted in his field(this earth we are living)
32 Though it(the christian religion) was the smallest of all seeds(religions), yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”
THIS WAS PREDICTED BY JESUS CHRIST IN ONE OF HIS PARABLES 2000 YEARS AGO EVEN BEFORE CHRISTIANITY WAS ESTABLISHED which correlate with the message of Meloch and Nikon to Emperor Heron in your Doctufos.
So, you can see that THE GOD OF THAT JUDA, is actually Yahweh, the true God of the universe.
Then, what I'm asking you is, when you googled it,how come that what you saw as the largest religion is not your Doctufos religion but you saw christianity?
Then obviously,that prediction was for christianity and not any other religion
Talking about Jesus predicting the end of the world, Jesus did not predict any end of the world,rather he says, his kingdom has no end

Oloruntobi4382:
Nice to know someone honours Atum. How did you find him? Btw, i checked the thread and it was good.

I was asking to see Jesus, but Atum appeared and told me the difference between fictitious characters and Real characters. I almost disbelieved him, because I have been using the name of Jesus in my dreams to chase away some ugly creatures I have ever been seeing. I asked why it is possible for me to call Jesus name in my dreams and then the ugly creatures fled. Then Atum told me that the ugly creatures are made for me by my fear while I was in the waking state. And that whatever I put my trust on should be able to also chase the ugly creatures away. I doubted him and he told me to try having confidence in my name and see how I would be able to take my own name into my dream to chase away those ugly creatures. I gave it a trial and shortly, I had a dream again where those ugly creatures came. And I said, 'Get away in the name of J-" and then I remembered that I should rather use my own name to check if the ugly creature would flee or not. Then I changed mouth and said, "Get away in the name of Olumide(not my real name)". My brother come and see the way that so-called ugly creature fled like a private jet. Then he told me that even if it was biscuit or groundnut or stone I have believed upon in my waking state, I would also mention the name of stone or the biscuit and it would still have achieved that same feat. Then he told me that my fear is what is represented by the ugly creature and that the secret to never seeing it again is by losing my fear. Then till today, I have never had nightmares but enjoyable dreams, so I wouldn't even need to call any name in my dream.

Then when I told him that I still doubted that Jesus is fictitious, he told me that I would have to die and see the writer of that story. A week later, I died and saw myself in a place of calmness and peace. I was the only one walking in isolation. Then as if they were speaking directly into my soul without using their mouths, I heard, "Let us leave him as long as he wouldn't continue what he is doing currently." What I was doing currently that time was that I was writing the Revelation called the DOCTUFOS which Atum was revealing to me. So they said that they should leave me alone since I would stop writing it. Then while I was about to wake up from the dead, I saw a name written on the sky:EUSEBIUS. I have never heard the name before in my life, so I Google searched it when I awoke from the dead and I saw that he was the father of CHURCH HISTORY. Meaning that he was the one who wrote the history of Christianity where there was no real history available. Then I downloaded his write-up and began to read:

Quickly, I was swayed by his sweet mouth and falsehood, including his threats. Then I decided in my mind that I would stop writing what Atum was revealing to me. Then I slept that same night and a deadly vision came. Eusebius attacked me in the vision with a sword, crying, "Bring back my confession! Bring back my confession! Souls are perishing!" Then I entered into the mouth of his sword and woke up.

Immediately I went online here and declared myself a blasphemer. I also said that I have met God(not knowing that it was Eusebius I met). And for about one whole month, I stopped posting the revelations from Atum until another vision came: I saw people burying someone I know who have died and was buried more than fifteen years ago. I was surprised, how can they be re-burying somebody who have died many years ago and was already buried? Then the interpretation came that what I have stopped doing, I am definitely going to resume it.

Then the revelation of Atum resumed and since then till now, I haven't stopped posting the revelations. Even right now I have seen the real personality whose character and attributes was adulterated to form the Jesus story. His name is Faulkin, who died millions of years ago in Sodom-Egypt in the period of the homo-erectuses. I have also seen Yahweh(Nymphidis), Allah(Lar.gas), Moloch and many bad gods and they are currently in a spiritual prison so that human beings could be able to re-examine their beliefs closely again and change their ways.


WE ARE NOT IN THIS WORLD TO WORSHIP ANY god, rather WE ARE HERE TO USE OUR BRAINS AND DO FINDINGS OF THE WORKS OF THE HIGHEST CONSCIOUSNESS called GOD ALMIGHTY. He doesn't require our worship, neither is he jealous because he doesn't have rivals.

paxonel:

This DOCTUFOS, correlate with Bible predictions in most aspect,only that, i sense there is a clash between the identity of Yahweh in DOCTUFOS with the identity of Yahweh in the Bible.
I think that's the problem.
Every other thing you say is perfectly correct except that Yahweh is the kid brother to the true God of the universe
I begin to wonder,how does this apply to reality?
But in christianity,we see Yahweh as the true God of the universe,whether he has elder brother it really do not matter because they are still one God,one spirit who pre determined existence. So our role is to worship that one God which we labelled Yahweh or Jesus Christ.
As for your claim that Yahweh did not predict anything in the Bible,
Google it, the parable of the mustards seed ,
Matthew 13:31-32
31 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven(The Christian religion) is like a mustard seed, which a man(Jesus christ himself) took and planted in his field(this earth we are living)
32 Though it(the christian religion) was the smallest of all seeds(religions), yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”
THIS WAS PREDICTED BY JESUS CHRIST IN ONE OF HIS PARABLES 2000 YEARS AGO EVEN BEFORE CHRISTIANITY WAS ESTABLISHED which correlate with the message of Meloch and Nikon to Emperor Heron in your Doctufos.
So, you can see that THE GOD OF THAT JUDA, is actually Yahweh, the true God of the universe.
Then, what I'm asking you is, when you googled it,how come that what you saw as the largest religion is not your Doctufos religion but you saw christianity?
Then obviously,that prediction was for christianity and not any other religion
Talking about Jesus predicting the end of the world, Jesus did not predict any end of the world,rather he says, his kingdom has no end

It's as if you don't understand the DOCTUFOS predictions. Let me explain to you: they said that Yahweh the god of Juda would be the god to be widely worshipped for two thousand years, and his worship shall be the last of the worship of the gods before people will start to abandon it for the Highest Consciousness called God Almighty, the creator of Yahweh. Now the prophecy that Yahweh will be the last of the gods to be worshipped has already been fulfilled and the one that says that the Revelation of the true God, the father of Yahweh, shall come to end all religions is what we are now experiencing. People are now realising that Yahweh is not God the Almighty. Check everywhere now, people are realising that they should not worship a god. People are becoming conscious that they are the part and parcel of God Almighty the creator of Yahweh. More people are abandoning religion every day by day. And by the year 2625, we will have a very high population of the irreligious in our country.

OtemAtum:
It's as if you don't understand the DOCTUFOS predictions. Let me explain to you: they said that Yahweh the god of Juda would be the god to be widely worshipped for two thousand years, and his worship shall be the last of the worship of the gods before people will start to abandon it for the Highest Consciousness called God Almighty, the creator of Yahweh. Now the prophecy that Yahweh will be the last of the gods to be worshipped has already been fulfilled and the one that says that the Revelation of the true God, the father of Yahweh, shall come to end all religions is what we are now experiencing. People are now realising that Yahweh is not God the Almighty. Check everywhere now, people are realising that they should not worship a god. People are becoming conscious that they are the part and parcel of God Almighty the creator of Yahweh. More people are abandoning religion every day by day. And by the year 2625, we will have a very high population of the irreligious in our country.

Ok,
Now i know what the doctrine is all about.
That's true!
A lot of people have started having confidence on themselves rather than on religion,knowing that God lives in them and they are part of the true God

paxonel:

Ok,
Now i know what the doctrine is all about.
That's true!
A lot of people have started having confidence on themselves rather than on religion,knowing that God lives in them and they are part of the true God

That's my point.

The Bible makes it clear that Yahweh is not the only god. Yahweh, in fact was not always the most powerful.