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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 2:25pm On May 23, 2017
patrickmuf:
Can't believe what I am reading here, Griezmann lacks pace, is on the decline and blah blah blah...
The names that are popping up aren't gonna come cheap themselves, Kane? Auba? Mbappe?
Kane has been excellent in the EPL under a free flowing Tottenham but he has failed in Europe where Griezmann and Atletico have excelled so if you must take a swipe at Griezmann for his poor goal return in the league, I don't know what you'll make of Kane in Europe...

Auba for all his pace is a poor finisher and in no way can you compare the offensive approach of Tuchel which clearly favors Auba and any striker you can think of to the defensive approach of Diego Simeone...Let Griezzy and Auba swap positions and let's see if we will have any course to even start a comparison...

Mbappe? We have seen Papisse Cisse come to England and tormented defenders for half a season, we have seen Darren Bent, Andrew Johnson nkor? Even Depay is back among the goal but this time, scoring screamers for fun but just because folks want to discredit Griezzy, anything can fly...

If you don't want him, simply say so and don't try to discredit his efforts.
Who told you Simeone is defensive?

He's defensive in big games but against small teams, he's not.

You actually think players such as Carrasco, Koke, Correa et al are defensive?

BTW, if you want to get the best out of Griezman, you won't only have to build the team around him but also, get a target man whom he can feed off. Without these, he's bound to fail. Kapish!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:26pm On May 23, 2017
raumdeuter:
And who scored the goal that made Atletico qualify
I no get strength to dey argue again abeg... my fingers dey pain me.. i'll be back..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 2:33pm On May 23, 2017
Everybody they hated on came and slapped them silly over their skulls with superb performances:

Zlatan, pogba even the herrera some confusionists were hating on became player of the year! Abeg hate more on griezmann so that he can come and continue the tradition of making you all look like saps! grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:42pm On May 23, 2017
Oasis007:
grin

Cc Elampiro

GloryIsaac

Funlord2

and Co
Haha, wont be bad if we win titles with him, just know it's a gamble cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:45pm On May 23, 2017
Funlord2:
Everybody they hated on came and slapped them silly over their skulls with superb performances:

Zlatan, pogba even the herrera some confusionists were hating on became player of the year! Abeg hate more on griezmann so that he can come and continue the tradition of making you all look like saps! grin
Zlatan really helped us improve our league position from last year smiley

And he also helped my man Pogba in proving the 89m by scoring match-winning goals and giving him 50 assists... smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:47pm On May 23, 2017
Oasis007:
So you mind the Submission of GloryIsaac?! The Dude that listed Valencia, Celta Vigo as small Clubs?!

The same Celta Vigo that trashed almighty Barcelona and Real Madrid this Season?!

A Team that almost dimmed our Hope of securing a Place in the next Season Champions League?!

I swear..... you are just trolling and catching Fun with this Discourse.
A small club is a small club whether they beat a top team or not. Watford thrashed united early this season doesn't make them a big club or one to be worried about.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:55pm On May 23, 2017
patrickmuf:
Can't believe what I am reading here, Griezmann lacks pace, is on the decline and blah blah blah...
The names that are popping up aren't gonna come cheap themselves, Kane? Auba? Mbappe?
Kane has been excellent in the EPL under a free flowing Tottenham but he has failed in Europe where Griezmann and Atletico have excelled so if you must take a swipe at Griezmann for his poor goal return in the league, I don't know what you'll make of Kane in Europe...

Auba for all his pace is a poor finisher and in no way can you compare the offensive approach of Tuchel which clearly favors Auba and any striker you can think of to the defensive approach of Diego Simeone...Let Griezzy and Auba swap positions and let's see if we will have any course to even start a comparison...

Mbappe? We have seen Papisse Cisse come to England and tormented defenders for half a season, we have seen Darren Bent, Andrew Johnson nkor? Even Depay is back among the goal but this time, scoring screamers for fun but just because folks want to discredit Griezzy, anything can fly...

If you don't want him, simply say so and don't try to discredit his efforts.
The price they are quoting for him is murder. We can do better for that amount. If he comes cheaper fine.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 3:05pm On May 23, 2017
My preferred options are Kane or Aubameyang but i am on siddon look mode now. I don't think Griezmann is worth that money but at least he is an attacking player who will get goals hopefully (unlike Pogba).
Hopefully we get him AND another pacy finisher cos with Rooney and Zlatan leaving we need at least 2 new faces in attack to join Rashford.
My issue with it is simply this.....i hope we are not spending half of the transfer money on only him because like Pogba this season he wont be enough. We need to buy 2 quality strikers next season, with a RWF, a CMF, and 1 or 2 defenders also.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by teeezy00: 3:08pm On May 23, 2017
eph12:
The price they are quoting for him is murder. We can do better for that amount. If he comes cheaper fine.
Who can u sign for less that is better than him now?? ?
Auba is quoted fr about £80mil, n blive him he can't perform lie he s doing with Dortmund in England with man Utd

Belotti quoted fr £75mil n I don't think he s better than Grizzy Cox I hv watched him all season.

Mbappe quoted for £100mil and above, too young to handle the price tag n heat of EPL

Who elsehuh
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Branzy(m): 3:09pm On May 23, 2017
Diademk07:
Who told you Simeone is defensive?

He's defensive in big games but against small teams, he's not.

You actually think players such as Carrasco, Koke, Correa et al are defensive?

BTW, if you want to get the best out of Griezman, you won't only have to build the team around him but also, get a target man whom he can feed off. Without these, he's bound to fail. Kapish!
man Utd is like ATM .. both play defensive football let's don't fool ourselves
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 3:13pm On May 23, 2017
GloryIsaac:
Zlatan really helped us improve our league position from last year smiley

And he also helped my man Pogba in proving the 89m by scoring match-winning goals and giving him 50 assists... smiley
So that was the job of only pogba himself? So rooney, martial, and lingard have clauses in their contracts that say because they did not cost 89m they should endeavor not to have, contribute or make as many assists or goals as pogba and ibra? No wonder that even though he is such a flop in your eyes he is still is spread out in all the top soccer blogs and websites polls for the seasons best midfielders? I wish I could flop along side such crappy players too!

http://www.football365.com/news/football365s-top-ten-central-midfielders-of-the-season



This your straw man is made from fine bamboo sticks!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 3:23pm On May 23, 2017
elampiro:
Exactly

We will never learn. The money we could use to buy four players with good potentials. A mixture of experience and potential. Ferguson did not buy Ronaldo for a world record fee. We did not buy Tevez for a word record fee.
Barca did not buy messi for world record fee.
.
.
But what about neymar and suarez. huh
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:25pm On May 23, 2017
Funlord2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xXPW-ZAz9M



Haba but you know he can't run? He can't pass? He scores only against gbefuns? His assists are wack? He can't jump and head? He will affect our teams ronaldo from flourishing? He may kill the queen?

Abeg na Ahmed musa the legend stout I want oh?
Mephis Depay video was finer than this. Mkhitaryan Assists and goals video was excellent. Ibrahimovic video was beyond perfect. I forget Mata.

Until we learn to buy what will improve us significantly. I remember too how some of us fans lamented SAF leaving Hazard to but Kagawa. But we were showed videos of how Kagawa was Assists king. Then we went to buy a similar player in Mata.

This Griezmann perceived speed (which is not up to Depay's or Di Maria's) would be average when he comes to EPL. This big space left by Laliga bottom teams wont exist even when you play Sunderland. The only thing I see is agility which is not even still up to what Falcao posses.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:26pm On May 23, 2017
raumdeuter:
Any player who doesnt score like Ronaldo isnt worthy of being a striker
So 98% of clubs will be playing strikerless
Where did I imply this?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:29pm On May 23, 2017
Funlord2:
So that was the job of only pogba himself? So rooney, martial, and lingard have clauses in their contracts that say because they did not cost 89m they should endeavor not to have, contribute or make as many assists or goals as pogba and ibra? No wonder that even though he is such a flop in your eyes he is still is spread out in all the top soccer blogs and websites polls for the seasons best midfielders? I wish I could flop along side such crappy players too!

http://www.football365.com/news/football365s-top-ten-central-midfielders-of-the-season



This your straw man is made from fine bamboo sticks!
This funlord shaa.... i've always supported Pogba, only saying that Ibra is the reason pogbas contribution to the team is overlooked.... If Ibra didn't need 100 to score 2, i'm sure no one would disturb Pogba b'cos the assists will be in his name!...
I'm sure you'll want to defend Ibra now.. smh...
Wait till we get a clinical finisher and y'all will see the beast pogba is...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:31pm On May 23, 2017
lekkie073:
r u afraid to call my name huh
as u rightly said d price tag on a player can make pundits come for his head just as d case of pogba. but aside d price tag he is actually good. what I told u then was that I am not bothered by d price of a player if it's gonna be a plus for d team.


and by the way, do u know d kind ill luck dat followed pogba dis season? he hit the bar more then 7times dat I can remember in d EPL dis past season
I didn't want to be insulted again. So I left out the name.

As for Pogba, I have nothing against him except that he didn't come commanding the midfield immediately. Kante immediately clicked, may be because he was in the EPL before. But SAF said early enough around February 2016 that Kante was the standout player that season. We still delayed in going for him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:31pm On May 23, 2017
The easiest way out of this Griezmann issue is to lose on Wednesday

Let the players lose so Griezmann wont come

And I am still waiting for suggestion of better strikers you can buy that will cost less and guaranted to deliver
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:35pm On May 23, 2017
codedguy1:
You seem not to get the point.

Whichever way you look at it, it improves the team. Imagine rashford taken off and griezmann is coming in or vice versa. Its better than a Rooney who is tired whether he has s played on the wings, as SS or striker.

What tactics/formation they use now boils down to what the coach has in mind. Mourinho is the one that wants yo buy the player he wants and he believes he has an idea what he wants from them, except you are telling me you and mourinho discussed it.

Am still waiting for THE LIST! and please Dont tell me you are busy because you have been replying post here almost going to 3pages now and I still can't see THE LIST




If zlatan and fellaini are finding it hard to beat defenders with heading why Dont you name the giants like goliath that we should sign that would beat every defender in heading.
He will improve us by what degree? A marginal improvement will be counter productive on the young players. Their development will still because Griezmann cannot sit on the bench.

That's all I have for you for now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thebondman: 3:35pm On May 23, 2017
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On May 23, 2017
elampiro:
Where did I imply this?
In 2 places,

1. Where you said in La Liga where strikers score 40 goals, Who are the strikers that have scored 40 goals in La Liga besides Ronaldo and Messi?

2
elampiro:
Ronaldo played just 2500 minutes playing 29 matches.
Griezmann played 36 matches with 3000 minutes and scored just 16 goals
Above you are comparing Ronaldos output to Griezmann forgetting that Ronaldo scored 6 penalties, minus those 6 penalties, Ronaldo will have 19 goals in 29 matches vs Griezman 16 in 36 matches

All those who scored more than Griezmann remove penalties and lets know how many goals they have
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On May 23, 2017
elampiro:
He will improve us by what degree? A marginal improvement will be counter productive on the young players. Their development will still because Griezmann cannot sit on the bench.

That's all I have for you for now.
Who are your preferred option to Griezmann that will cost less, willing to come plus getable and are guaranteed to score
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:41pm On May 23, 2017
raumdeuter:
The easiest way out of this Griezmann issue is to lose on Wednesday

Let the players lose so Griezmann wont come

And I am still waiting for suggestion of better strikers you can buy that will cost less and guaranted to deliver
Is Griezmann guaranteed to deliver? Remember too we have less quality players than A.Madrid to supply the quality passes, through balls and crosses. He might be required to track back to help out the defence as Mkhitaryan does.

The major problem is not buying Griezmann but how much are we buying him visavis the improvement he will provide. If we buy him for £80m and he scores less than 25 goals is that a good buy. The way I see this guy, he will struggle to score 20 goals. Why not gamble with two promising strikers who might score 15-20 goals with £35m each?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 3:42pm On May 23, 2017
GloryIsaac:
Zlatan really helped us improve our league position from last year smiley

And he also helped my man Pogba in proving the 89m by scoring match-winning goals and giving him 50 assists... smiley
I get your point! That was a post meant for another discourse! Anyway one of your new clinical finishers will be here in 2 weeks so be patient..... wink
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:42pm On May 23, 2017
raumdeuter:
Who are your preferred option to Griezmann that will cost less, willing to come plus getable and are guaranteed to score
Is Griezmann guaranteed to score? I doubt.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:46pm On May 23, 2017
teeezy00:
Who can u sign for less that is better than him now?? ?
Auba is quoted fr about £80mil, n blive him he can't perform lie he s doing with Dortmund in England with man Utd

Belotti quoted fr £75mil n I don't think he s better than Grizzy Cox I hv watched him all season.

Mbappe quoted for £100mil and above, too young to handle the price tag n heat of EPL

Who elsehuh
Unless we don't have scouts anymore and we only have to look at the top teams across Europe to get players. Athletico will take that money and buy someone for $25-30m that will perform wonders and make them very competitive. Then you'd be wondering why we didn't see that player. Because Mane was not quoted as $75m he wasn't good enough. Kante was too cheap for us.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:54pm On May 23, 2017
Branzy:
man Utd is like ATM .. both play defensive football let's don't fool ourselves
Atletico are a defensive team in CL and in big games but against little opposition teams, they are quite expansive.

They have good attacking fullbacks and in Koke, they have a midfielder who's one of the best crosser in La liga and there are attacking players such as Carrasco, Correa, even Saul Niguez, a DM is no slouch in the attacking aspect. Don't let them deceive you, when they are allowed to attack, they can burn.. They have scored plenty of 7, 6, 5 goals in many matches this season.

The thing is Griezman is their main outlet and recipient of most the creative passes, the striker is only acting as a decoy for him and to distract the opposition from him. It's not because they are a defensive team. Gone are the days when they were always playing negative with the view of being a small team but that's no more except in some big matches and in the CL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlord2(m): 4:01pm On May 23, 2017
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 4:03pm On May 23, 2017
raumdeuter:
He be like say you dey see ramdeuter for your sleep, where did I say he is the perfect player for Manure?
No be attackers wey dey score wella and assists be ur type??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 4:05pm On May 23, 2017
elampiro:
Mephis Depay video was finer than this. Mkhitaryan Assists and goals video was excellent. Ibrahimovic video was beyond perfect. I forget Mata.

Until we learn to buy what will improve us significantly. I remember too how some of us fans lamented SAF leaving Hazard to but Kagawa. But we were showed videos of how Kagawa was Assists king. Then we went to buy a similar player in Mata.

This Griezmann perceived speed (which is not up to Depay's or Di Maria's) would be average when he comes to EPL. This big space left by Laliga bottom teams wont exist even when you play Sunderland. The only thing I see is agility which is not even still up to what Falcao posses.
I beg to differ on Kagawa. Kagawa was signed for less than 15mil compared to the 36 mil + 6 mil agent fees that Hazard got signed.

Moreover, Kagawa hardly played in his best position under Moyes. He started 14 matches under Moyes with only few of them in the central role. Not to forget that most of the 14 matches came towards the end of the season and he was one of our best players at the end of the season.

While others, esp Mata was given chance in his favoured role, Kagawa hardly got same.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 4:12pm On May 23, 2017
Pay the money for Griezzy jare.
If unproven Mbappe is worth 100m, dunno why people are so worried about money United will splash on Griezman.

Third best player in the world, Proven both at National and Club level.

A player who buried the world champions at European Cup last year

82goals in 160 for someone who's not the main striker??

Wetin una want the guy to do?? Instead of saying he won't better the team or succeed, the current squad need to improve on their game too.

Evn if its 120milla bring the Lad to Old Trafford.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 4:14pm On May 23, 2017
elampiro:
He will improve us by what degree? A marginal improvement will be counter productive on the young players. Their development will still because Griezmann cannot sit on the bench.

That's all I have for you for now.
So name the players that you think will improve us exponentially that will come cheap.

You can even name some from our reserve team. Just name some players, that's all we are asking.


You cannot just condemn someone the coach has identified that would improve the team and cant name anyone that you think fits the bill and comes cheap and GUARANTEED TO SCORE since you already know griezmann won't guaranty us goals.

I ask again have you discussed our tactics and formation with mourinho that has given you a better insight than us here?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by fourfourfour: 4:16pm On May 23, 2017
teeezy00:
Who can u sign for less that is better than him now?? ?
Auba is quoted fr about £80mil, n blive him he can't perform lie he s doing with Dortmund in England with man Utd

Belotti quoted fr £75mil n I don't think he s better than Grizzy Cox I hv watched him all season.

Mbappe quoted for £100mil and above, too young to handle the price tag n heat of EPL

Who elsehuh
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