When a man is cheating, the society askes his wife to pray for him.. when a woman cheats even if it is once, the man is asked to throw her out.. does this not show societal support of male infidelity in Nigeria?? Is this not a form of male chauvinism

Yes it does, it is. Nigerian women are the only ones who can change this disease by not accepting their bs about it being nature! If he cheats be sure that 3 out of his 2 children aren't his

Diamondville:
When a man is cheating, the society askes his wife to pray for him.. when a woman cheats even if it is once, the man is asked to throw her out.. does this not show societal support of male infidelity in Nigeria?? Is this not a form of male chauvinism

Was it the lady or the guy that paid the bride price?

Sorry to burst your bubble, in Nigeria, the home is "owned" by the man because he paid to have the woman as his wife. Simple!

I'm sorry that you were born a female because in Nigerian homes, it is a man's world.


#Fact

ikp120:
Was it the lady or the guy that paid the bride price?

Sorry to burst your bubble, in Nigeria, the home is "owned" by the man because he paid to have the woman as his wife. Simple!

I'm sorry that you were born a female because it is a man's world.

#Fact

Few questions for you.. what is the essence of bride-pride? What about tribes that don't accept bride price? Can bride price buy a person's life?

Diamondville:
Few questions for you.. what is the essence of bride-pride? What about tribes that don't accept bride price? Can bride price buy a person's life?

Sorry, please ask your parents or guardians or village elders
about that.

I don't like the system either because I no wan pay bride price and all those marriage rite nonsense o. hehehehehe

Have you heard of the clause "be a man"?

ikp120:


Sorry, please ask your parents or guardians or village elders
about that.

I don't like the system either because I no wan pay bride price and all those marriage rite nonsense o. hehehehehe

Have you heard of the clause "be a man"?

I have..

Diamondville:
I have..

What do you think it means?

ikp120:
Was it the lady or the guy that paid the bride price?

Sorry to burst your bubble, in Nigeria, the home is "owned" by the man because he paid to have the woman as his wife. Simple!

I'm sorry that you were born a female because in Nigerian homes, it is a man's world.


#Fact

Iwo omo yii, O shey orire pupopupo

Diamondville:
When a man is cheating, the society askes his wife to pray for him.. when a woman cheats even if it is once, the man is asked to throw her out.. does this not show societal support of male infidelity in Nigeria?? Is this not a form of male chauvinism

Society doesn't actually encourage male infidelity, rather society pays more emphasis on the consequences of female infidelity which carry far more disastrous fallout.

Diamondville:
Few questions for you.. what is the essence of bride-pride? What about tribes that don't accept bride price? Can bride price buy a person's life?

Damn! ... Bride price is literally a purchase price ....according to the law ... All women are all regarded as properties! ....yes ...properties including my mom ..she is my father's property! ...under the law!

The bride price is a purchase price for the property being bought! ... It is customary! ...they consider women as an investment which before gotten must be bought ..since they will give birth, keep you warm in bed,clean the house n other house chores!

Just so you know women are regarded as Mother nature! ...they are expected to keep themselves clean by not involving in any form of unchaste life

because through you brings to life the future of our now! ...through you breeds our generations to come! ...that's why you should not engage in the same doggy(sleeping around) activities of men! ...

The same way yuar expected to be pure n untouched is the same way our leaders are excepted to be corruptionminded free! ... If they fail in curtailing their BlossomingSelfishMinds by engaging in corrupt practises ...they will be blamed n tinted in shadesOfShame by the public ..same thing applies to all ye women!

Don't follow the world(men) to do Evil! ..keep yourself pure ...you are Nature'sMostCherishedCreation ... You bleed very month, you grow faster than any other creation, you carry a child for nine months ...you are the only specie that can clear your eyebrows today n it will appear full the next day! #CaptainMakeUpToTheRescue!

On a serious note ... Be serious! ... You are in a man's world ...nonetheless You are the world the world needs for the man's world to grow! ..so stay strong and hold your ground like aConversation!

Diamondville:
When a man is cheating, the society askes his wife to pray for him.. when a woman cheats even if it is once, the man is asked to throw her out.. does this not show societal support of male infidelity in Nigeria?? Is this not a form of male chauvinism

Diamond disregard those silly comments above. I like this topic you brought forth because it shares a similar bias with the question I asked HERE. Without engaging it deep, I have this to say...cheating in marriage in todays world is as a result of certain factors to which the nuclear marriage system proliferates. Let me ask you this - will you be in support of a world where means exist that can effectively curb or make cheating on one's spouse undesirable or prefer a 'cheat-and-let's-cheat' kinda world as it seems to be ?

swagguElite:
Damn! ... Bride price is literally a purchase price ....according to the law ... All women are all regarded as properties! ....yes ...properties including my mom ..she is my father's property! ...under the law!

The bride price is a purchase price for the property being bought! ... It is customary! ...they consider women as an investment which before gotten must be bought ..since they will give birth, keep you warm in bed,clean the house n other house chores!

Just so you know women are regarded as Mother nature! ...they are expected to keep themselves clean by not involving in any form of unchaste life

because through you brings to life the future of our now! ...through you breeds our generations to come! ...that's why you should not engage in the same doggy(sleeping around) activities of men! ...

The same way yuar expected to be pure n untouched is the same way our leaders are excepted to be corruptionminded free! ... If they fail in curtailing their BlossomingSelfishMinds by engaging in corrupt practises ...they will be blamed n tinted in shadesOfShame by the public ..same thing applies to all ye women!

Don't follow the world(men) to do Evil! ..keep yourself pure ...you are Nature'sMostCherishedCreation ... You bleed very month, you grow faster than any other creation, you carry a child for nine months ...you are the only specie that can clear your eyebrows today n it will appear full the next day! #CaptainMakeUpToTheRescue!

On a serious note ... Be serious! ... You are in a man's world ...nonetheless You are the world the world needs for the man's world to grow! ..so stay strong and hold your ground like aConversation!

For ya mind, u don make sense abi ? I'm sure the two people who liked your twisted reply think just like you.

You say...

"..that's why you should not engage in the same doggy(sleeping around) activities of men! ... "

Activities of men you say! You're warning women not to go around having sexual affair, that it's only exclusive for the men, so I ask your wise self...are those 'adulterous' men sleeping with men like them ? Is it not females they are going to be sleeping with ? It's the same single and married women you're advising globally to "keep themselves clean by not involving in any form of unchaste life" that will be the ones men who cheats are going to approach or be approached by. Also, by what your statement implies, it's 'the malefolk' who reserves the right to live an unchaste life, so what kind of lifestyle would you call those girls who were virgin before innocently convinced into a serious relationship by men who effectively hid their marital life from them ? I do hope you see the twists in your dreary post.

Secondly...you say "the bride price is a purchase price for the property being bought". That's the mentality that works in the olden days because it suits the way things were back then, not now. Even in the Yoruba culture, bride price is done as a ceremonial gesture not property sold as they emphasize on family marrying family and not just the couple. All in all, the feminists strongly disagrees with you.

y3mi:


For ya mind, u don make sense abi ? I'm sure the two people who liked your twisted reply think just like you.

You say...

"..that's why you should not engage in the same doggy(sleeping around) activities of men! ... "

Activities of men you say! You're warning women not to go around having sexual affair, that it's only exclusive for the men, so I ask your wise self...are those 'adulterous' men sleeping with men like them ? Is it not females they are going to be sleeping with ? It's the same single and married women you're advising globally to "keep themselves clean by not involving in any form of unchaste life" that will be the ones men who cheats are going to approach or be approached by. Also, by what your statement implies, it's 'the malefolk' who reserves the right to live an unchaste life, so what kind of lifestyle would you call those girls who were virgin before innocently convinced into a serious relationship by men who effectively hid their marital life from them ? I do hope you see the twists in your dreary post.

Secondly...you say "the bride price is a purchase price for the property being bought". That's the mentality that works in the olden days because it suits the way things were back then, not now. Even in the Yoruba culture, bride price is done as a ceremonial gesture not property sold as they emphasize on family marrying family and not just the couple. All in all, the feminists strongly disagrees with you.

See this young man ...Your I.Q is as low as my blood sugar! ... Can't you endeavour to spare few minutes of your time to access the question posed by the OP n relate it to your comment! ...it is of no essence to this topic at all

Every bit of your statement contained pores of tantrums being thrown at my post ... My post was out there to advise n encourage women out there by giving reasons why ladies should avoid sleeping around with men

...since most of them believe because their male counterparts do it ...n they are not persecuted! ...they should given the same freedom to sleep around! ...that mentality is wrong ..n thus demanded my advise which was well doctored by my surgical apprenticeship post!

On the issue that bride price is a purchase price ...that's my presumption! ...because take a lot at it ...what's the essence of bride price in the first place ...you said ceremonial gesture! ..prrrrftt! Can you imagine! ...tell me why that ceremonial gesture is only prescribed for the female folks ...why not collect groom price also since yu said it is a ceremonial gesture.

At least since it is a ceremonial gesture .. N two families are partaking in such ceremonial occasion ..why don't the two families engage in exchange of groom price and bride price! ... You can see your school of thought is actually a school of error laced knots!

This is why I presume that ...it is a purchase price since under the Marriage Act in Nigerian Legal System n in accordance to the Nigerian Customary Law ...the wife is regarded as a property! ... Now tell me ... If she is a property. What does the dowry means ...is it not purchase price!

People may not view it as purchase price ...but am trying to break it down further that dowries collected before marriage are actually part of our custom as a gesture but in the in depth sense ...can be presumed to be a purchase price!

Don't say bride is an old age custom ...customs are our way of life ...no matter ao old it seems to have emerged ...it still leaves the stench on us till our very last breath! ...you can decide to not practice the custom ..that does not mean others won't continue it!

Some families don't collect bride price again ... Due to the depleting economic situation on ground

...some don't because they have enough money n their ego won't want them to collect anything from you

..some don't because probably the groom has been very close to them since childhood OR probably ...the groom has spent much on the family before the wedding ceremony is being planned for!

So! ..Mister I gave an advise to the female folks ..yu are not a lady also... Yu ar not fit to tell me the feminists strongly disagrees with me! ... Nemo dat Quod Non Habet ...you cannot give what you don't have ...you cannot tell me they disagree with me ..since yu ar in no position to claim you know their thoughts

Tell me! ..who made you lord over feminists? ..you are here claiming you know their mind ... Why don't yu just say you disagree with my school of thought rather than bloat around screaming your thoughts on behalf on the feminists!

Here you have it! ...knock yourself out!

swagguElite:
See this young man ...Your I.Q is as low as my blood sugar! ... Can't you endeavour to spare few minutes of your time to access the question posed by the OP n relate it to your comment! ...it is of no essence to this topic at all

Every bit of your statement contained pores of tantrums being thrown at my post ... My post was out there to advise n encourage women out there by giving reasons why ladies should avoid sleeping around with men

...since most of them believe because their male counterparts do it ...n they are not persecuted! ...they should given the same freedom to sleep around! ...that mentality is wrong ..n thus demanded my advise which was well doctored by my surgical apprenticeship post!

On the issue that bride price is a purchase price ...that's my presumption! ...because take a lot at it ...what's the essence of bride price in the first place ...you said ceremonial gesture! ..prrrrftt! Can you imagine! ...tell me why that ceremonial gesture is only prescribed for the female folks ...why not collect groom price also since yu said it is a ceremonial gesture.

At least since it is a ceremonial gesture .. N two families are partaking in such ceremonial occasion ..why don't the two families engage in exchange of groom price and bride price! ... You can see your school of thought is actually a school of error laced knots!

This is why I presume that ...it is a purchase price since under the Marriage Act in Nigerian Legal System n in accordance to the Nigerian Customary Law ...the wife is regarded as a property! ... Now tell me ... If she is a property. What does the dowry means ...is it not purchase price!

People may not view it as purchase price ...but am trying to break it down further that dowries collected before marriage are actually part of our custom as a gesture but in the in depth sense ...can be presumed to be a purchase price!

Don't say bride is an old age custom ...customs are our way of life ...no matter ao old it seems to have emerged ...it still leaves the stench on us till our very last breath! ...you can decide to not practice the custom ..that does not mean others won't continue it!

Some families don't collect bride price again ... Due to the depleting economic situation on ground

...some don't because they have enough money n their ego won't want them to collect anything from you

..some don't because probably the groom has been very close to them since childhood OR probably ...the groom has spent much on the family before the wedding ceremony is being planned for!

So! ..Mister I gave an advise to the female folks ..yu are not a lady also... Yu ar not fit to tell me the feminists strongly disagrees with me! ... Nemo dat Quod Non Habet ...you cannot give what you don't have ...you cannot tell me they disagree with me ..since yu ar in no position to claim you know their thoughts

Tell me! ..who made you lord over feminists? ..you are here claiming you know their mind ... Why don't yu just say you disagree with my school of thought rather than bloat around screaming your thoughts on behalf on the feminists!

Here you have it! ...knock yourself out!

The notion of perceiving women as mere human commodity to which monetary value is attached is what I oppose in males with such mentality and females who consider their worth measured only by price.

Don't say bride is an old age custom ...

Me stating it as an "old age custom" doesn't mean I am against it. Twisting my statement out of context to mean another thing is what hypocrites do. I only cited part of it definition to infer that not all humans living on the planet today observes it as it was in the past hence the word 'OLD', or you want to tell me folks in the western world are into it ?

customs are our way of life

It is also part of our customs to consult the divinities before doing so many things we take for granted and do today out of so-believed 'we are now civilized' swaqquElite the hypocrite please tell me how many people do so today ?

but am trying to break it down further that dowries collected before marriage are actually part of our custom as a gesture but in the in depth sense ...

Like I already said...hypocrites like you who roam about this country with their half-baked education irks me because you educated illiterates are only pro-culture/customs whenever it conveniently suit a bias in your world-view but are rigidly anti-culture/customs when some of us suggest we as a nation should fully go cultural and not partial such as asking the so-called leaders to swear oath under the presence of our African Gods and not the Abrahamic idols imposed on us by European colonialists and Arab jihadists in the past.

Back to the topic...
You stated:

Tell me why that ceremonial gesture is only prescribed for the female folks ...why not collect groom price also since yu said it is a ceremonial gesture.

At least since it is a ceremonial gesture .. N two families are partaking in such ceremonial occasion ..why don't the two families engage in exchange of groom price and bride price!

Why don't you do your intelligence a favor by first asking yourself WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESCRIBING IT SO ? Oh wait you can't because you've proven to be an educated illiterate. Anyway nothing bad in being one as I'm used to them. If you have read far and wide you wouldn't be ignorant of the fact that the world originally started off as a matriarchal one where matrilineal was the order back then before it gradually changed to a patriarchal one through the millenia and patrilineal became the standard as we have it today. To break that down to your level, it means until power switched gender, human descendants used to bear the surname of their mothers and not their fathers, and yes it was females (parent) who paid the groom-price dowry for reasons that were valid in those ancient times (not Biblical period).

I care not whether you accept that it is the menfolk who prescribed promulgated that standard among other things aside from the marriage institution, but with that said, it is safe for me to anticipate a fiery comeback from you asking for proof, so here's the water to cool you off incase you do that - a surviving example of a society where evidence of matriarchy still lingers by practice can be found in India, although corrupted now - the female still pays the dowry.

y3mi:

The notion of perceiving women as mere human commodity to which monetary value is attached is what I oppose in males with such mentality and females who consider their worth measured only by price.


Me stating it as an "old age custom" doesn't mean I am against it. Twisting my statement out of context to mean another thing is what hypocrites do. I only cited part of it definition to infer that not all humans living on the planet today observes it as it was in the past hence the word 'OLD', or you want to tell me folks in the western world are into it ?

It is also part of our customs to consult the divinities before doing so many things we take for granted and do today out of so-believed 'we are now civilized' swaqquElite the hypocrite please tell me how many people do so today ?


Like I already said...hypocrites like you who roam about this country with their half-baked education irks me because you educated illiterates are only pro-culture/customs whenever it conveniently suit a bias in your world-view but are rigidly anti-culture/customs when some of us suggest we as a nation should fully go cultural and not partial such as asking the so-called leaders to swear oath under the presence of our African Gods and not the Abrahamic idols imposed on us by European colonialists and Arab jihadists in the past.

Back to the topic...
You stated:


Why don't you do your intelligence a favor by first asking yourself WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESCRIBING IT SO ? Oh wait you can't because you've proven to be an educated illiterate. Anyway nothing bad in being one as I'm used to them. If you have read far and wide you wouldn't be ignorant of the fact that the world originally started off as a matriarchal one where matrilineal was the order back then before it gradually changed to a patriarchal one through the millenia and patrilineal became the standard as we have it today. To break that down to your level, it means until power switched gender, human descendants used to bear the surname of their mothers and not their fathers, and yes it was females (parent) who paid the groom-price dowry for reasons that were valid in those ancient times (not Biblical period).

I care not whether you accept that it is the menfolk who prescribed promulgated that standard among other things aside from the marriage institution, but with that said, it is safe for me to anticipate a fiery comeback from you asking for proof, so here's the water to cool you off incase you do that - a surviving example of a society where evidence of matriarchy still lingers by practice can be found in India, although corrupted now - the female still pays the dowry.

Arguing with you! ..is like trying to fill a silver spoon with a bucket of water! ...technically a waste of time!

My school of thought is my school of thought! ...n yuar of no capacity worthy to claim yours is better than mine ..

This is the same reason we have different school of thoughts taking philosophy as a case study ...we have Plato's school thought ...we have Aristotle's school of thought ... Hernandez school of thought n lots of others on each and every subject matter revolving round the principles and nature of the course!

....the same way a school of thought is filled with pores of errors ....is the same way another school of thought is free of errors but lack applicability! ...

So that's why majority of solutions are provided to researchers or students to choose which school thought they agree with and defend it! ...coz in this world ...we are all different in terms of choices and decisions ....where and how I was bred would influence my major decisions in life!

So pls ... Broda! keep your school of thought to your freaking self! ... You are free to exhibit your Icores of insensibility in your school of thought

Nonetheless. ..i must say yuar pretty much wasting your time if you think your school of thought is better than mine n I would with all intimacy n likeness of heart accept your views as superior to mine!

Just because you think something is wrong doesn't not make us subjected to your own thinking! .... We ar all governed by not by school of thoughts but by law ...and by law ...women are properties! ...whether you like it or not! ...that's of no essence to the laws of our jurisdiction!

So pls yuar welcome to knock yourself out with any freaking fairytale like thoughts of your own! ...we ar in a real world ...be real!

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For ya mind, u don make sense abi ? I'm sure the two people who liked your twisted reply think just like you.

You say...

"..that's why you should not engage in the same doggy(sleeping around) activities of men! ... "
You're warning women not to go around having sexual affair, that it's only exclusive for the men, so I ask your wise self...are those 'adulterous' men sleeping with men like them ? Is it not females they are going to be sleeping with ? It's the same single and married women you're advising globally to "keep themselves clean by not involving in any form of unchaste life" that will be the ones men who cheats are going to approach or be approached by. Also, by what your statement implies, it's 'the malefolk' who reserves the right to live an unchaste life, so what kind of lifestyle would you call those girls who were virgin before innocently convinced into a serious relationship by men who effectively hid their marital life fr God Bless You!