lloyds:
Trump is a prophet. Almost the whole world was fighting against his anti Islamic measures in USA. He is very right afterall.

lawkenoz:


it changes the situation of making you seem like an islamic apologist, and thus we can have a rational discourse without any religious subjectivity attached.

plus it shows you are truthfully against violence of any sort irrespective of where it comes from

ken4jj:


My terrorist friend, you did not counter the issues i raised.You always point the blame of terrorism over the world on the USA and i told you how Saudi Arabia is part of it. I condemened the West for going into Libya, it was very stupid decision because i know these islamic terrorist are just looking for justification for their acts. It is in them. Now counter what i said earlier.

I did not even add the carton killings and miss word killings in Northern Nigeria, na USA cause am too.Keep giving excuses, one day Islam will be restricted to their own territory because the world will be fade up.

Pluskid:


Not that I'm quoting you for any long drama, but i want you to understand one thing. If someone who calls himself a Muslim, goes on a rampage killing people, that's him, that's not islam. He is not following the teachings of our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W). There is no place in the Holy Qur'an or hadith(saying, action or silent approval of the Holy Prophet Muhammad) that says killing innocent people in the name of jihad is allowed. That's just ridiculous. What I see is just some people with something seriously wrong with their brain killing innocent people. Just because they're Muslims (which I probably think they're not) doesn't mean what they did was according to the teachings of Islam.

Pluskid:


I actually didn't want to reply you. But I couldn't restrain myself you know. I'm not a Muslim scholar. That's why I always say that anyone with questions should go the scholars and ask. Don't just sit behind a keyboard and be asking questions.

A link for you.

https://www.quora.com/Does-Islam-really-support-violence-in-the-Quran-If-yes-what-are-the-verses-Can-those-verses-be-justified-or-interpreted-properly-with-context

Timijo:
Did you read my post before you reply? I gave chapters and verses of the Quran that support violence and killing, and you gave me back the same thing.

Pluskid:


Not that I'm quoting you for any long drama, but i want you to understand one thing. If someone who calls himself a Muslim, goes on a rampage killing people, that's him, that's not islam. He is not following the teachings of our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W). There is no place in the Holy Qur'an or hadith(saying, action or silent approval of the Holy Prophet Muhammad) that says killing innocent people in the name of jihad is allowed. That's just ridiculous. What I see is just some people with something seriously wrong with their brain killing innocent people. Just because they're Muslims (which I probably think they're not) doesn't mean what they did was according to the teachings of Islam.

aminu790:
Why people nowadays call the name of Allah while committing a crime.


Its deliberately to dent the image of Islam. How many are caught and found that they are not Muslims?


Even those Herdsmen I doubt it and I dont believe it.

ollah1:



How old are you?
Where were you when us and it's allies destroyed Libya, Afganistan, Iraq and Syria? Recently, more than 1000 innocents(mainly children) have died in Congo and Iraq all thanks to NATO?
Why isn't the MSM broadcasting these events? Aren't they humans too?

Lightening:


The denial continues. Your post is loaded with guilt. Who accused Islam? You should have started by expressing condolences rather than defending a known bloodthirsty religion .

KratosCorp:
That's not the point. The point is that BEFORE the advent of NATO and prior to the invention of MSM, JIHAD was being carried out by muslims from right left and center.

In fact Jihad happened in the Nothern Nigeria back in the days (BEFORE THE CREATION OF NIGERIA) just as it is still happening till date.

The only thing that has changed is language.

In the olden days everuone called it by its name: Jihad.

But now, you and I are calling it terrorism.

However, the change of name does not change the fact that the culture is THE SAME THING ever.

It's pure Jihad.

Terrorism.

Pluskid:


I actually didn't want to reply you. But I couldn't restrain myself you know. I'm not a Muslim scholar. That's why I always say that anyone with questions should go the scholars and ask. Don't just sit behind a keyboard and be asking questions.

A link for you.

https://www.quora.com/Does-Islam-really-support-violence-in-the-Quran-If-yes-what-are-the-verses-Can-those-verses-be-justified-or-interpreted-properly-with-context

sugarwiz:

What are u saying?
Did any world power invade d north east.... What is d cause of bokoharam?
In situations like the u have to b human first before any other thing try to b sympathetic. Why don't u wish 9/11 never happened.

aminu790:
Why people nowadays call the name of Allah while committing a crime.


Its deliberately to dent the image of Islam. How many are caught and found that they are not Muslims?


Even those Herdsmen I doubt it and I dont believe it.

Pluskid:


Not that I'm quoting you for any long drama, but i want you to understand one thing. If someone who calls himself a Muslim, goes on a rampage killing people, that's him, that's not islam. He is not following the teachings of our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W). There is no place in the Holy Qur'an or hadith(saying, action or silent approval of the Holy Prophet Muhammad) that says killing innocent people in the name of jihad is allowed. That's just ridiculous. What I see is just some people with something seriously wrong with their brain killing innocent people. Just because they're Muslims (which I probably think they're not) doesn't mean what they did was according to the teachings of Islam.

ollah1:


If the discourse we have had isn't rational enough, then I wonder the kinda rational discussion we wanna have

AlanTuringAI:

I know you'll doubt Shekau, Osama Bin Laden and the likes are not Muslims too. The problem some of you have is denial. Instead of you to acknowledge that radicalism, fanaticism and extremism has become widespread in Islam of today, see it as a genuine problem and discuss ways these could be tackled, you'd rather cover up and make up excuses for such animals and blame the other religions. It's a pity.

aminu790:
Why people nowadays call the name of Allah while committing a crime.


Its deliberately to dent the image of Islam. How many are caught and found that they are not Muslims?


Even those Herdsmen I doubt it and I dont believe it.

judgedredd22:


olodo... this here, was just last week.... a good example of the mentality of you ilk :-

Muslims protest against Christians, forces closure of Federal University in Dutsin-ma, Katsina .
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A brewing tension between minority Christians and a larger body of Muslim students has resulted in the closure of the Federal University in Dutsin-ma in Katsina State by the university’s management, reports Saharareporters.
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The tense atmosphere arose when, just after their Friday prayers, Islamic students at the university mobilized and began protesting against Christian employees at the university.
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Andrew Moses, a security guard at the University, said, “We saw strange faces stationed at Academic Department housing the university management staff, including the Vice Chancellor. When we inquired about their mission, they simply said, ‘We are here for jihad against Christians in the university.’”
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Mr. Moses said he and other guards quickly alerted the university’s head of security who immediately called the police.
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A lecturer at the university revealed that there had been longstanding tension at the university, with Muslim students accusing the former Vice Chancellor, James Ayatse, of favoring Christians in filling academic and non-academic vacancies.
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The lecturer said Friday's crisis boiled over when Haruna Kaita, recently reinstated as the Vice Chancellor by a court order, set to resume in office. The university’s Governing Council had earlier fired Mr. Kaita over allegations of financial mismanagement.
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According to S.R's academic source, “Professor Kaita came to the university with a group of Muslims who threatened to deal with any Christians working here,” referring to the FG-owned university.
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He said the Muslim students backing Mr. Kaita also mobilized other Muslims groups from Dutsin-ma town to support their mission of unseating Christians in the university.
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One source told our correspondent that Samuel Zumve, the interim chairman of the Academic Staff Union of the Universities (ASUU), hastily mobilized some Christian students who came together “prepared to defend their Christians fellows in the university.”
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The chairman of the university Senate, Bichi, later ordered immediate closure of the university until normalcy returns.

Pavarottii:
Wen dem dey do other countries, dem no know Abi?

lawkenoz:


thats just their MO, deflect the real issue and blame every other person and factor. ive been trying to get one of them ollah1 to admit their are violent text in the quran just as it is in the bible. he rather chooses to play hide and seek, goes to get verses from the bible that are crazy violent and posts none from his quran,. if I were to go get from the quran and post he would tell you its context and blame the west, like one of them is doing here.... referring you to scholars like english language is now rocket science.

islam needs a reform, the sooner they admit it the better for them.

BigIyanga:

Another overt-terror apppoligist talking. The fact that your post has over 120 likes tells a lot about folks like who believe that someone is out to do damage to ur religion instead of looking inward to denounce bad guys in your midst.

Pluskid:


I gave you back the same thing with explanation and references. By the way, those verses were revealed during war times.

Let me ask you a question. Those people that were killed and some injured, were they at war with those that killed them?

aminu790:
Why people nowadays call the name of Allah while committing a crime.


Its deliberately to dent the image of Islam. How many are caught and found that they are not Muslims?


Even those Herdsmen I doubt it and I dont believe it.

Jabioro post=57173c255:
The term and condition apply to Muslims evangelical missions I can not understand.. how on earth will you spread your religion on violence, maim, killing and hatred in the name of Allah.. is Allah the same with true God?

Timijo:
You will always have something to say to defend your book.

aminu790:
I'm saying for the benefit of those who understand not your type

Pluskid:


You know what, we should just stop quoting one another. After all I don't think it'll change anything. You believe in what you want to believe and I'll believe in what I want to believe. Does that sound okay to you?

Pavarottii:

I don't argue with shallow minds that knows nothing about world politics and the tussle of world power