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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:29pm On Jun 04, 2017
iblawi:



The one we have now moves at 160km/h. When the train was launched they used the engine which was used for construction and testing while waiting for the main one to come. Stop posting trash.

“The speed is going to be improved upon from 100 Km/h to 150 Km/h when the passenger locomotives come , say, September, because the locomotive we are using now is the one used for construction.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/nrc-conducts-trial-run-on-abuja-kaduna-standard-gauge/
hit us up when they arrive dude..no biggie we are waiting grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:29pm On Jun 04, 2017
freshest4live:

What is the quality and the cost of all of these? What is the capacity?

We are waiting for the final product no need to keep yapping...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jun 04, 2017
Obudu cable transport
Obudu snake bends
Ikom bridge
Nigeria-Cameroon border

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Fidha254(m): 5:31pm On Jun 04, 2017
More bridges for wildlife.....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:32pm On Jun 04, 2017
uzzyfire:
lol no worry EAC is in it mature stages , d whole world will see

Mature in deed!! with only two building that have topped up... Why can't you guys be patient for the final work, we started talking about SGR Kenya when the train started running..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:33pm On Jun 04, 2017
In architecture on the African continental sphere and beyond, Nigeria is a force to reckon with

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jun 04, 2017
shervydman:


just like the Kenyatta's family's tightening their grip on ya. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
naaah ..nop its not even close.shervy ever played monopoly ?...dagote like the guy who bought every estate an no place to pass by without paying him.that monopoly dude
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:36pm On Jun 04, 2017
In ports Kenya doesn't come close

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 5:36pm On Jun 04, 2017
mtis:

there is what you wrote please Sir grin
" The speed is going to be improved upon from 100 Km/h to 150 Km/h when the passenger locomotives come , say, September, because the locomotive we are using now is the one used for construction. "

SEPTEMBER last year dummy.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:37pm On Jun 04, 2017
Fidha254:
More bridges for wildlife.....

Awesome..now that cant happen in Naija. First they'll kill the animals then construct later

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:38pm On Jun 04, 2017
68816419:

rubbish, so does that justify high cost of it for a project of which 90% of the total cost was payed and sourced from China ,for a poor country like Kenya?,how about Abuja-kaduna sgr(198km) which cost $860 millions (not billions?), kenya - Mombasa (400km) cost a whopping $3.84 billllllllllioooooooooons.!!!!!
the whole of Nigeria sgr projects contract for the 2, 733km (now 3053km )new Lagos - Kano rail was first awarded by former Presidential Olusegun Obasanjo in 2006 at a cost of $8. 3bn to the Chinese company ( CCECC ) but could not be executed due to paucity of funds. but now going on and now $11.1billions with addition extension of calabar section and port Harcourt...kenya is damn doomed my friends , please stop comparing stations with actual construction any body can build such ,all u need is good architects and builder
Kenya's Railway system entailed building bridges that stretched for kilometers in places like Tsavo ,which is why it was an expensive venture.
2.Ours is a Grade one DOUBLE STACK Railway, one of the few on the continent ,also part of the cost.
3.We have been repaying the loan since 2013 and will finish doing so in 16 years.Kenya charges a 1.5% Railway Development Levy on all Imports into the country and the amount collected is growing each year.So what is this about is being 'doomed'Errm. The Chinese are even willing to fund the second and third phase because they can see that there is a reliable way of repaying the loan.
SMH.You have no idea of what you are talking about.
What plans has Nigeria put in place to repay the Rail loan??Kenya has the Railway Development Levy.A stable tax that is not influenced by economic conditions. Nigeria has........

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:39pm On Jun 04, 2017
iblawi:


They are already in use. If you know how to read you will see it clearly written SEPTEMBER while the rail was launched in JUNE last year.
there is what you wrote please Sir grin
" The speed is going to be improved upon from 100 Km/h to 150 Km/h when the passenger locomotives come , say, September, because the locomotive we are using now is the one used for construction. "

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:45pm On Jun 04, 2017
iblawi:



The one we have now moves at 160km/h. When the train was launched they used the engine which was used for construction and testing while waiting for the main one to come. Stop posting trash.

“The speed is going to be improved upon from 100 Km/h to 150 Km/h when the passenger locomotives come, say, September, because the locomotive we are using now is the one used for construction.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/nrc-conducts-trial-run-on-abuja-kaduna-standard-gauge/

Your trains that are to move at between 100kph and 150kph are yet to commence. They've just been tested. While in Kenya the trains are already operating at average speeds of 120 and 100 for passenger and cargo respectively whilst both clock 160kph maximum speeds.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:45pm On Jun 04, 2017
Marcelo290:
I was making a study and I discovered that the type of capitalism practised in Nigeria and some other capitalist countries in Africa does not encourage development. Taking Dangote and his establishments in Nigeria as a case study, mostly in the area of cement production, I think he is enjoying too much monopoly which is not good for a developing country.

The funny thing is that he has the backing of the government, so who the government is for who then can be against? When there is monopoly of goods in a market, the owner of the means of production may increase the price any time he wishes, and since there are no alternates, the whole country gets affected, there was a particular scenario where one big business man imported cements to come sell, it posed a big challenge to Dangote, what did Dangote and his groups do? he reduced the price of his cement then to about #950 just to give the man a run for his money, the man in other to avoid running on a loss, pleaded with Dangote for him to buy his own from him for almost his cost price.

In my own point of view, monopoly kills competition, and competition kills development, a big country like Nigeria needs to be diversified and not allowing one person dominate the whole country, that's why when inflation occurs, the whole country gets affected! Although dangote has created lots of job opportunities for Nigerians, I think his form of monopoly is doing us more harm than good in this country, I think we are getting just one person enriched, why others keep going down...

This is basically my own opinion, so Nigerians and all lovers of wisdom, can I get your take on this issue?
Agree cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 5:46pm On Jun 04, 2017
mtis:

there is what you wrote please Sir grin
" The speed is going to be improved upon from 100 Km/h to 150 Km/h when the passenger locomotives come , say, September, because the locomotive we are using now is the one used for construction. "


SEPTEMBER last year dummy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 5:47pm On Jun 04, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Your trains that are to move at between 100kph and 150kph are yet to commence. They've just been tested. While in Kenya the trains are already operating at average speeds of 120 and 100 for passenger and cargo respectively whilst both clock 160kph maximum speeds.

Can you people see the report was talking of September 2016 and was written in June 2016.

Education is a problem in kenya
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jun 04, 2017
Check out second longest water bridge in Africa 3mb


Even in rail infrastructure we are on it


Talking of tough trains, some of the rail bridge are been built on water here

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:51pm On Jun 04, 2017
arinzeejikonye:
In architecture on the African continental sphere and beyond, Nigeria is a force to reckon with

What excites Nigerians so much with that aeroplane house in the last picture? I see them posting it everywhere. It's so ugly and tacky - like some architect tried to come up with something out of this world yet didn't have the skills to do it......more like trying to carve something and instead of coming up with the Michaelangelo stuff you come up with some ugly shit that no one wants to look at.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:52pm On Jun 04, 2017
iblawi:


Can you people see the report was talking of September 2016 and was written in June 2016.

Education is a problem in kenya
no no i think its your education..now read what you wrote...
The speed is going to be improved upon from 100 Km/h to 150 Km/h when the passenger locomotives come , say, September, because the locomotive we are using now is the one used for construction. "

Use come for the present tense (come, comes).
Use came for the simple past .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Marcelo290(m): 5:54pm On Jun 04, 2017
mtis:

Agree cool
You sure must be a dummy, I already saw where you were making fun with what I posted, besides you don't just say you agree without points to back up your claims, so this isn't for slowpokes like you cheesy cheesy so shift
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 5:59pm On Jun 04, 2017
NairobiWalker:


What excites Nigerians so much with that aeroplane house in the last picture? I see them posting it everywhere. It's so ugly and tacky - like some architect tried to come up with something out of this world yet didn't have the skills to do it......more like trying to carve something and instead of coming up with the Michaelangelo stuff you come up with some ugly shit that no one wants to look at.
Jealousy nor go kill you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jun 04, 2017
Azura edo independent power plant

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:01pm On Jun 04, 2017
Marcelo290:
You sure must be a dummy, I already saw where you were making fun with what I posted, besides you don't just say you agree without points to back up your claims, so this isn't for slowpokes like you cheesy cheesy so shift
A quote from one Bongo Adi

" With Dangote’s dominance of critical sectors of our economy, it is just a matter of time before every aspect of the economy comes under its looming shadow. The implications of such a colossal monopolistic economic structure for a developing economy with weak regulatory infrastructure as well as weak institutions will challenge students of political economy. "

so basically what the dude was trying to say is this..Welcome to the Federal Republic of Dangote

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:02pm On Jun 04, 2017
Marcelo290:
I had already clarified the issue of landlocked countries bordering us, Niger and Chad aren't economic viable countries, again they border the North which is far from the South where the ports are located. For the population factor you are bringing in, have it in mind that there has been a ban on importation of recent, we encourage home made goods, besides I wasn't giving any excuse, just stated the obvious fact which I even attested is of benefit to you guys.

Do you have to give an excuse even if its lame?. We are borderd with Somalia and South Sudan but we still export to them regardless of the fact that Mombasa is still far from them..

Now that you have put aban of importation, do you know the capacity of Lagos port then and now?(still below mombasa).
Now that the ban is in place do you produce the below items?
1. Motor Vehicles and not assembly plus all the parts
2.Refined oil, (Dagote plant is still underconstruction)
3.Electronics
4.Toothpicks, Utencils,shoes...
5.Among others

Nigeria is still anet importer..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jun 04, 2017
NairobiWalker:


What excites Nigerians so much with that aeroplane house in the last picture? I see them posting it everywhere. It's so ugly and tacky - like some architect tried to come up with something out of this world yet didn't have the skills to do it......more like trying to carve something and instead of coming up with the Michaelangelo stuff you come up with some ugly shit that no one wants to look at.



My dear appreciate good tins bro, life is too short for hate


In architecture, Kenya doesn't come close to Nigeria.
Read my lips.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:07pm On Jun 04, 2017
arinzeejikonye:
In ports Kenya doesn't come close

Yet Mombasa Port handles more than them all and is more efficient.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:09pm On Jun 04, 2017
arinzeejikonye:




My dear appreciate good tins bro, life is too short for hate


In architecture, Kenya doesn't come close to Nigeria.
Read my lips.
a saying goes like good stuff sales..so goes the architecture. the stuff ya posting bro in not of good quality or classy if i may say but that's just me . grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:10pm On Jun 04, 2017
mtis:

naaah ..nop its not even close.shervy ever played monopoly ?...dagote like the guy who bought every estate an no place to pass by without paying him.that monopoly dude
Lol, l can see you are having fun, you don't know what we are discussing about, you just dey shook mouth.
Dangote is from the north ( the great kano), and agriculture is taken seriously in the north, unlike the more educated and prosperous south. So while thousands of innovators and business men in the south focused on Banking, lCT, Telecommunication and oil, the north has just about four top business men, two of them are forbe's Billionaires and agribusiness cuts it for them. So Dangote has competitors in Nigeria but his business acumen is top notch, same way Apple and Facebook dominate despite the competition.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Fidha254(m): 6:11pm On Jun 04, 2017
adamskutty:
It is still nonsense, crap and rubbish compared to eko Atlantic city, infact there are not in the same category at all. Never compare. eko Atlantic is in advance stage.

what is even the landscape of this mini project of ur country BTW? grin

Hmm. give me info on population as well.
Eko is 24kmsq, Konza is 50km2.... But that should t matter, what should matter is the effects of the cities, and as far as I know Konza is in its own category, its far more valuable than most new cities bieng built in Africa... Monza wont be just some other 'commercial city or industrial city' this is a city built for one purpose only, research and innovation! This will be a place where you are not hindered you are free to think and innovate, all the necessary infrastructure will be there, if you want a billion dollar particle accelerator to study matter, you will have it.... It will have universities just for advance research only..that kind of thing....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:13pm On Jun 04, 2017
Jay254:


Do you have to give an excuse even if its lame?. We are borderd with Somalia and South Sudan but we still export to them regardless of the fact that Mombasa is still far from them..

Now that you have put aban of importation, do you know the capacity of Lagos port then and now?(still below mombasa).
Now that the ban is in place do you produce the below items?
1. Motor Vehicles and not assembly plus all the parts
2.Refined oil, (Dagote plant is still underconstruction)
3.Electronics
4.Toothpicks, Utencils,shoes...
5.Among others

Nigeria is still anet importer..
You are actually ignorant, even America does not produce her cars 100%, and 70% of innosun is manufactured locally. You can't call that assembling. Innosun has its car plant the first of it's kind in Africa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jun 04, 2017
freshest4live:

Lol, l can see you are having fun, you don't know what we are discussing about, you just dey shook mouth.
Dangote is from the north ( the great kano), and agriculture is taken seriously in the north, unlike the more educated and prosperous south. So while thousands of innovators and business men in the south focused on Banking, lCT, Telecommunication and oil, the north has just about four top business men, two of them are forbe's Billionaires and agribusiness cuts it for them. So Dangote has competitors in Nigeria but his business acumen is top notch, same way Apple and Facebook dominate despite the competition.
an yet Nigeria Ranks 114 Out Of 128 In Innovation Index 2016 in the world..shame bro

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:14pm On Jun 04, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Yet Mombasa Port handles more than them all and is more efficient.


That postulation is false, you can believe it anyway,


Do you know that apapa and Tincan ports underwent expansion, serving African largest market and largest populace, include Gulf of Guinea, West Africa and central Africa.

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