#eyesWideOpen... about to learn from my Oga(s).

tr3y:


Okay now I get you.
You are a semantic markup crusader , I am too even though I still mix it sometimes (Don't judge).
You still have to worry about cross-browser compatibility especially if you are using vanilla JavaScript.

Cross-browser compatibility has actually improved greatly, unless you want to support really old browsers which only a few 'software museum' dwellers use (XP users?).

Or IE 6!

Craigston:
Cross-browser compatibility has actually improved greatly, unless you want to support really old browsers which only a few 'software museum' dwellers use (XP users?).

IE8 does not support it and it's still the default version on fresh Windows 7 installation.
Seriously IE is just a pain in a devs' arsss! One day all this cross browser stuff will be a thing of the past just as using table for column is now!

Craigston:

Of course you can still use stopPropagation and preventDefault. And it's not different from listening to an event. It only helps you write cleaner, more maintainable code and separates behavior, presentation and structure.
Using html event trigger attributes such as onClick, onBlur, etc mix more JavaScript into your html which should be avoided. Instead of using those, query the elements you're interested in and use addEventListener() to attach event handlers to them. That makes your code more readable. It becomes clearer on first glance what your function is meant to achieve. Your html becomes free of JavaScript too.
I used this technique to write a template for a friend and reading the code was enjoyable. You understand the document structure better since it is almost html alone. Similarly, the JavaScript file was shorter and cleaner.

Now I see you are talking about code structure which I agree with 100% cause I always try to improve mine.

I thought you were implying that it might cause performance issues, that's why I was really asking for details.... because in my world, performance is almost everything

tr3y:

IE8 does not support it and it's still the default version on fresh Windows 7 installation.
Seriously IE is just a pain in a devs' arsss! One day all this cross browser stuff will be a thing of the past just as using table for column is now!

From tables to floating divs and now it's flexbox. It's getting better.

Craigston:

From tables to floating divs and now it's flexbox. It's getting better.

HTML is now more of a framework than just the semantic markup language it used to be.
A developer never stop learning!

tr3y:

HTML is now more of a framework than just the semantic markup language it used to be.
A developer never stop learning!

And CSS has also improved a whole lot, CSS animations, transitions and keyframes can get you a dynamic page without JavaScript (Although that would be hell for now).

You'd even find some Quora boys comparing CSS with Js

uhhmm finally am back after 2weeks of banning due to i put numerous hyperlink in my post as am trying to comment reasonable thing here in this thread

siping a bottle of zobo and watch as guys are ranting here which the king of troll.
I salute you all

by the way who have nokia charger here cause my phone is very low right now.

B-)

2 weeks of banning keh? man, me sef just come back from ban sha - but my own ban no tay reach that one.

DanielTheGeek:


And CSS has also improved a whole lot, CSS animations, transitions and keyframes can get you a dynamic page without JavaScript (Although that would be hell for now).

You'd even find some Quora boys comparing CSS with Js

Someone{on quora} was even asking whether people still code html/css by hand

dhtml18:
What have you got to say about this?

You have a stray script tag...

DanielTheGeek:


You have a stray script tag...

Says the code professor, but the code works and performs its intended task.

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dhtml18:
What have you got to say about this?

1) Stray Script tag

2) window.document.getElementById is the same as document.getElementById. All global JavaScript objects, functions, and variables automatically become members of the window object.

Sorry for the late reply.. Been so busy lately.

Well, i intentionally wrote it like that, it is not a stray tag - it works. Stray tag is not an error message as far as I am concerned.

larisoft:


What about those that claim to know PHP? could you install your own PHP (not lamp stack) and configure your simple notepad scripts to run php? Do you know how that language works? Do you know its founding philosophy and WHEN NOT TO USE IT?

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hmmm this i confess i dont know but will be glad if you could quote it and explain thanks

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tr3y:
Just tell us how much did boomshakalala paid you for this advert?

maybe she paid you with something else in which case tell her I also want to promote boomyakataba.

Sorry tr3y,
I am not hating or anything but please, do understand the person's point before attacking the person.
Some of us have noticed our fellow nairalanders (@dhtml18) for at least over a decade. So do attack the topic not the person.

Thanks.

I do python and c perfectly but last year I didn't earn pin in programming just at the end of last year I learn php and JavaScript and write a small piece of code for a client and got paid 10k a code while i have in python and c for over year

lets be real no knowledge is a waste but forget been pro and use tools that will get u cash Naija is hard I wish I have learned php all this year I was dwelling in c and python

silento:
I do python and c perfectly but last year I didn't earn pin in programming just at the end of last year I learn php and JavaScript and write a small piece of code for a client and got paid 10k a code while i have in python and c for over year

lets be real no knowledge is a waste but forget been pro and use tools that will get u cash Naija is hard I wish I have learned php all this year I was dwelling in c and python

Interesting, i was telling someone yesterday on Facebook about frameworks, and I said that Bootstrap is not the best frontend framework, and php is not the best programming language, but because it is in demand.

See my earning stats:

PHP - 65%
JAVA/Android : 18%
JAVAScript - 12%
All others (>10 languages) - 4%

So, if all i knew were just PHP, JavaScript and JAVA. I would still be earning about the same - although opportunities might still come for the other languages sha.

MEANSTACK for example, I have not earned a single MAVRO.
Visual Basic / Visual Basic .NET (with many years of experience) - 0 Mavros.

mikkytrio:


Sorry tr3y,
I am not hating or anything but please, do understand the person's point before attacking the person.
Some of us have noticed our fellow nairalanders (@dhtml18) for at least over a decade. So do attack the topic not the person.

Thanks.

Na, the dude is just TROLLING.

76 here

larisoft:
Am not impressed by what I see a person has done. Not with all the free apps out there available for one to customize and claim ownership of. And definitely not with many brilliant coders lacking GUI skills. Yes; A coder should not have to be GUI design genius.

what I look at are:

1. The neatness of code (does it have comments? is it well tabbed and spaced?).

2. The structure and architecture: Are related classes placed in the same folders? Are there irrelevant classes? If I add a module to this app, will I have to change everything else? Does a method perform only one function or several functions?

3. What are the unique things this app does? Is it basic crude operations (under which circumstances I will think you are good), or does it bring new breath taking algorithms which handle data with so much dexterity one thinks there is a human brain in there. (under which circumstances I will think you are super dope)? Programming is an art. Doing stuff that works is okay. Doing stuff that marvels is ....cool.

Finally, how much of this code did you actually write? It is definitely okay to use someone else's code, after all, the best code is no code at all (learnt that from Code Complete), but you shouldn't take credit for another person's work by posing as though you wrote it.

As for languages, the problem I have with people who claim to know several languages is that they dont even know those languages. You know C# right? If you were given only notepad, would you be able to write a medium-level c# app... like say...a windows form? What about those that claim to know PHP? could you install your own PHP (not lamp stack) and configure your simple notepad scripts to run php? Do you know how that language works? Do you know its founding philosophy and WHEN NOT TO USE IT?

If you could do all these in all the languages you claim to know, you'd definitely know computers deeply enough to justify your claims to bragging rights. But most of these guys only know one language. Some dont even know any at all.

yhu make it seem like yhur just interested in how well a code, is structured so yhu can copy / replicate it.

personally am interested in my code beautification, as long as it does what I want, when I look at my code,I understand how they interact, its yhu that wants to copy that needs those comment tags an neatness.

the computer doesn't give a Bleep about the code neat, as long as yhu follow its set syntax.

chalantmike:


yhu make it seem like yhur just interested in how well a code, is structured so yhu can copy / replicate it.

personally am interested in my code beautification, as long as it does what I want, when I look at my code,I understand how they interact, its yhu that wants to copy that needs those comment tags an neatness.

the computer doesn't give a Bleep about the code neat, as long as yhu follow its set syntax.

I can tell you are either a beginner or you are non-challant...

Or you have never worked on a project with >= 3 developers... How will you collaborate with messy code?, after some years, when you go back to look at an old script, it may look confusing.

I have a current codebase of more than 5k lines on one of my projects, if I didn't document and comment it other developers wouldn't be able to extend it.

DanielTheGeek:


I can tell you are either a beginner or you are non-challant...

Or you have never worked on a project with >= 3 developers... How will you collaborate with messy code?, after some years, when you go back to look at an old script, it may look confusing.

I have a current codebase of more than 5k lines on one of my projects, if I didn't document and comment it other developers wouldn't be able to extend it.

am actually non of the guesses yhu mentioned, as a developer of working with a team would be different, if not how would the know how the syntax interact, yhu know an programmer algorithm is unique to the one who coded it, just like someone else can't simply know yhur thinking process.

and yes I meant working alone, yhu know the computer or yhur client do not care about code neatness blah blah blah.

a computer only cares about the hierarchy, what is passing what and how when should behave.
yhur clients just want a working about.
me I want to have the final say "finally I did it".

chalantmike:


am actually non of the guesses yhu mentioned, as a developer of working with a team would be different, if not how would the know how the syntax interact, yhu know an programmer algorithm is unique to the one who coded it, just like someone else can't simply know yhur thinking process.

and yes I meant working alone, yhu know the computer or yhur client do not care about code neatness blah blah blah.

a computer only cares about the hierarchy, what is passing what and how when should behave.
yhur clients just want a working about.
me I want to have the final say "finally I did it".

you remind me of a friend who can't code because he makes silly mistakes and is non-challant. Do you know the similarity between both of you? You're lazy typers...and lazy coders..(with all due respect)

DanielTheGeek:
you remind me of a friend who can't code because he makes silly mistakes and is non-challant. Do you know the similarity between both of you? You're lazy typers...and lazy coders..(with all due respect)

I code "my passion ,my career path" , lol quite been an oxymoron, show me one coder/ programmer that doesn't make mistakes, especially the silly ones, nigga quit kidding yhurself, that is what makes a programmer, finding out what works and what doesn't work.

not remotely lazy.
am sure yhur dull brain haven't heard of the saying

" build first, optimize later"
if yhur looking for perfectionism in the sphere of programming, yhur a kickass slowpoke, cause even google can boast of that.

a good programmer knows not to spend his/her time optimizing a code that is not already working, finished work.

quit been a fuckaholic,raging on teenage hormones or yhu indeed new to programming ,cause I don't know any programmer that doesn't know that the neatness of the code layout is the least thing that matters or getting the job done comes first, optimization comes last".

amazing trolls

personally how well a programmer knows the language his working with,other than the language syntax itself there other things about the said language one needs to know, that only a master would.

like this one time, a friend of main summarized a class that would have taken me about 50 lines with 3 to 4 methods at that time.

this guy summarized it in 10 lines, using chaining method.