PrecisionFx:


Awori, Egun Egba,etc all make up the ethnic group called Yoruba.

Yes, but you said it yourself that why is the South East the only Zone that contains one ethnic group, while all the other geopolitical zones are multi ethnic.
That is why I asked you to list the tribes n the SW for us to hear.

These are your own words:

PrecisionFx:

Why should the SE alone be the geopolitical zone in nigeria that have one ethnic group and the remaining 5 geopolitical zones in nigeria have average of 60 ethnic groups each.

I was just trying to tell you how wrong you were.

fratermathy:

Political? Like really? So in your mind, all the ethnicities in the Niger Delta area that speak their own diverse languages (without any relationship to each other whatsoever) are political creations? Right?

Many of you from the Nigerian reductionist triad of Igbo, Hausa, and Yoruba, are so deluded by this contraption that you really feel you are better than the average man who was chanced to be born into a small ethnic group. Well, guess what? We really don't care what you think.

Please do not misquote me or turn this into something it is not. You yourself stated that a number of these minority tribes are Igboid or Yoruboid. Hence they have a common ancestry with this group. Ergo.... they are under it's ethnic group.

The reason for the detachment has to do with Political backstabbing and the civil war wahala if I'm not mistaken. At least google calls the ikwerres Igbos who rejected the igbo tribe tag during the war

I suppose you might feel balkanized against your will or miffed when they instantly Adress you as "Igbo" or "Yoruba". I grab that. However, it is the functions of your leaders to correct the misimpression that they are only three tribes in Nigeria and tell your history as it is.
Heck the last president was from the South south and he didn't seem to care much about being called Igbo did he??

fratermathy:


Ogunu is an Urhobo town, under Agbassa Kingdom.
Ajamimogha and Ugboroke are in Warri City are Itsekiri locales.

The others are communities in the local government. They are not within the metropolitan Warri. They are to Warri, what Okwe and Ibusa are to Asaba (if you are familiar with Asaba).

in that case, all those urhobo settlements that are not in any of the Warri Local Governments can't be considered to be Warri as well.
All those other places I listed are all in Warri South, so they are rightfully Warri.

NwaforIgbo:
The op craftly called all minorities sharing just common boundary with the Yorubas yoruba, while other tribes that not only share boundary with the Igbos, but also speak Igbo language, practice Igbo tradition and have I gbo laws, was regarded as and called bini people.
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LIES! Haba

Which ethnic group that shared common boundary with Yoruba within Nigeria did he call Yoruba? Is it Benin or Nupe or Egbira or Itsekiri or Etsako?

PrecisionFx:



Difference in language does not mean difference in ethnicity.


please go and read what ethnicity n tribe means, it's not a Nigerian thing, it's world over.


Read Scholarly articles on these definitions, it will help u a lot. Urobo, isoko, etc are tribes n not ethnic groups.

Drawing from your logic then, Igbo is also a tribe. Igbo is a tribe of Hausa (the major ethnic group in Nigeria). EOD.

You guys just think you can wake up and balkanise people's ethnicities in order to propagate your reductionist delusions? Your logic is very clear and if I am to subscribe to its flawed application, then you would also have to agree that Igbo is a tribe of Hausa.

There is only one ethnic group in Nigeria: HAUSA! All others are merely tribes!

SirWere:

Please do not misquote me or turn this into something it is not. You yourself stated that a number of these minority tribes are Igboid or Yoruboid. Hence they have a common ancestry with this group. Ergo.... they are under it's ethnic group.

The reason for the detachment has to do with Political backstabbing and the civil war wahala if I'm not mistaken. At least google calls the ikwerres Igbos who rejected the igbo tribe tag during the war

I suppose you might feel balkanized against your will or miffed when they instantly Adress you as "Igbo" or "Yoruba". I grab that. However, it is the functions of your leaders to correct the misimpression that they are only three tribes in Nigeria and tell your history as it is.
Heck the last president was from the South south and he didn't seem to care much about being called Igbo did he??

You cited some Igboid and Yoruboid examples. Kindly account for Efik, Ogoni, Ijaw, Urhobo, etc. Let's see how your flawed logic will work out here.

GEJ NEVER called himself Igbo neither was he ever called such. Igbos know themselves. You can't subsume people under your ethnicity because you share a country with them. This is why minority ethnicities will forever remain wary of the majority ethnic groups. What is even wrong with you guys? How can you call someone who has no relationship whatsoever with Igbo an Igbo person just because you want to propagate ethnic reductionism?

If we are to follow the logic you are using then I will boldly say we have only ONE ethnic group in Nigeria: HAUSA! Igbo and Yoruba are TRIBES of Hausa!

Zoolezoo:


LIES! Haba

Which ethnic group that shared common boundary with Yoruba within Nigeria did he call Yoruba? Is it Benin or Nupe or Egbira or Itsekiri or Etsako?

Leave them. They see only what they want to see. The hate they exude will consume them alone. In the original post, Igbo, Hausa, and Yoruba were mentioned. Igboid and Yoruboid were also mentioned.

I don't see Yorubas running around trying to derail the thread or making a fuss over stupid things. But go through the thread from the very first page and you'll see them doing what they do best.

Zoolezoo:


in that case, all those urhobo settlements that are not in any of the Warri Local Governments can't be considered to be Warri as well.
All those other places I listed are all in Warri South, so they are rightfully Warri.

If we are also to follow your logic, the Urhobo settlements in Warri are in Warri South LGA and are therefore in Warri. There is even a legislative constituency for Urhobos in Warri South.

Aside that, if you know Warri well enough, you would know that what is called "Warri" as we know it is 80% Urhoboland. All the industries and major locales that make up Warri are in Urhoboland (and I am not even talking of Uvwie and Udu yet). Anyone that sees or says anything contrary is just deluding himself/herself with tribalistic sentiments.

fratermathy:



Leave them. They see only what they want to see. The hate...

I don't see Yorubas running around trying to derail the thread or making a fuss over stupid things. But go through the thread from the very first page and you'll see them doing what they do best.

it's sadening, I really don't know what to call this, maybe insecurity.. some people feel they are the only people in this world, and they must dictate to every other tribe and if you say no to their request you are their number one enemy and you are also an agent of darkness.

I read through the post again trying to fault it, but couldn't find any thin wrong with it..

Zoolezoo:


in that case, all those urhobo settlements that are not in any of the Warri Local Governments can't be considered to be Warri as well.
All those other places I listed are all in Warri South, so they are rightfully Warri.

your logic is flawed.. I think you should visit warri yourself.

80% of warri is urhoboland, now other urhobo communities are fast becoming a city, places like effurun, osubi, ekpan, ebrumede. etc can't mention.

OP Ebira is an ethnic group consisting of different tribes they can be found in Kogi, Nasarawa, Edo, Benue. They are the largest minority groups in southwest due to migration for farming and commercial purposes.

genieluv:
@ OP, frathermathy, nice post.

I am from the middlebelt, so lemme help correct some little mistakes about the middlebelt ethnic groups here.

First of all it is JUKUN by spelling n not JUNKUN or JUNKUM as u spelt in some places. lol

>>>>Also, your number 22, Tivs were never part of Wukari federation.
Wukari federation was the successor state to the old Kwararafa kingdom after the kingdom was divided by internal divisions and jihad attacks from the Sokoto caliphate jihadists.

So, Wukari federation only consistes of the Jukuns, Kutebs, Ichens, Chambas, Jibu, Wapans and many other similar ethnic groups of Kwararafan descent in present day Southern Taraba, buh if you talk about the older Kwararafa kingdom which was the predecessor state to Wukari federation, that's where the Idomas, Igedes, Igbirras, some Igalas, Alagos, Mumuyes and many other dozens of middlebelt ethnic groups in Taraba, Benue, Nasarawa, Plateau, Adamawa and even Cross river states come in.
Thanks.

You are from the middle belt today, tomorrow you'll claim to be anioma.

fratermathy:


You cited some Igboid and Yoruboid examples. Kindly account for Efik, Ogoni, Ijaw, Urhobo, etc. Let's see how your flawed logic will work out here.

GEJ NEVER called himself Igbo neither was he ever called such. Igbos know themselves. You can't subsume people under your ethnicity because you share a country with them. This is why minority ethnicities will forever remain wary of the majority ethnic groups. What is even wrong with you guys? How can you call someone who has no relationship whatsoever with Igbo an Igbo person just because you want to propagate ethnic reductionism?

If we are to follow the logic you are using then I will boldly say we have only ONE ethnic group in Nigeria: HAUSA! Igbo and Yoruba are TRIBES of Hausa!

You know what.... I don't want to derail this thread, particularly given that I'm ignorant in this parts. It is your tribe after all and you have the right to call it whatsoever you like.

Good morning

Zoolezoo:


So What are the other significant tribes in the SW?

Egun is one

kenny1795:
pEpper content

no I heard that Igbo had different way of cooking jollof rice compared to Yoruba aside from pepe contenting

This one don go draw map.

What about the egun/Ogun people in Lagos
Why were they not mentioned.....

*fumes*
Op must be an urhobo

Hi fratermathy, I decided not to quote u so dat u can modify ur post. Ugboroke is an uvwie - urhobo town under uvwie lga. Urhobo territory in warri city is more than u think.

Noccerino:

You are from the middle belt today, tomorrow you'll claim to be anioma.

i will make you anioma jollof rice ok with carrots and sweet pepe

Amoto94:
OP Ebira is an ethnic group consisting of different tribes they can be found in Kogi, Nasarawa, Edo, Benue. They are the largest minority groups in southwest due to migration for farming and commercial purposes.

Some people will have us believe that the Igbos are the largest minority group in the SW. Do you agree?

9jakool:

Some people will have us believe that the Igbos are the largest minority group in the SW. Do you agree?

I do laugh at such people because Ebiras have been living in Yoruba territories before the forming of Nigeria and in short if an Ebira is speaking you may find some Yoruba words been used by the speaker due to years of interaction and living together. Ask peeps from Ondo, Ekiti, Ogun, Osun, Ilorin, Ibadan and even to some extent Lagos they will tell you this, though vast majority of them are in farm settlements and some of them have naturalized that you can't differentiate from the locals.

Amoto94:
I do laugh at such people because Ebiras have been living in Yoruba territories before the forming of Nigeria and in short if an Ebira is speaking you may find some Yoruba words been used by the speaker due to years of interaction and living together. Ask peeps from Ondo, Ekiti, Ogun, Osun, Ilorin, Ibadan and even to some extent Lagos they will tell you this, though vast majority of them are in farm settlements and some of them have naturalized that you can't differentiate from the locals.

So, are you saying that there are more ebira people than Igbo people in the SW.

Copacetic and educative. Thumbs up, OP. When I was in primary school, I thought there were only three tribes in Nigeria, Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba; The Northerners are Hausas, The South Westerners Yorubas, and the people of all other regions in the South are Igbos. But, of course, I know better now. I doubt there can be any adult around who thinks that way though, nevertheless your write-up is interesting and enlightening, an eye-opener to certain salient facts.

Afam4eva:

So, are you saying that there are more ebira people than Igbo people in the SW.

This may come as a surprise but that's what it is. We share close proximity with SW and we've been in SW for ages reason been that our ancestral lands are quite rocky and small which can't be used for large scale farming safe for some locations so our people migrated to SW before the coming of colonial masters. Joavid can attest to this but we don't seem to care about it

I know for a FACT that IBB is NOT gbagyi. He hails from the part of Niger state closer to kwara but not nupe too. Peole even claim he isn't nigerlite by birth.

Amoto94:
This may come as a surprise but that's what it is. We share close proximity with SW and we've been in SW for ages reason been that our ancestral lands are quite rocky and small which can't be used for large scale farming safe for some locations so our people migrated to SW before the coming of colonial masters. Joavid can attest to this but we don't seem to care about it

So, what you're saying in essence is that there are millions of Ebira people in the SW?

ewa26:
no I heard that Igbo had different way of cooking jollof rice compared to Yoruba aside from pepe contenting

i dont cook. But create a seperate thread to see the difference

Interesting

The continuous use of the word "minorities" makes me cringe

fratermathy:


I didn't draw the maps man. I saw it on Delta STate government website.

Well those maps are not the true representation of what is on ground.Itsekiri communities like ogheye,ogidigben just to mention a few have boundaries with the Atlantic ocean.
No wahala stay blessed .

PrecisionFx:
Lack of knowledge has made the Nigerian youth to keep using the Word Tribe and Ethnic Group to have the same meaning. All that you have listed here are Tribes found in Nigeria. We have only 3 Ethnic groups in Nigeria and they Are IGBO, HAUSA and YORUBA. The other over 300 Tribes in Nigeria are grouped under the 3 Ethnic groups that i have mentioned.

Tribes make up an ethnic group,China has thousands of Tribes but they have only about 50 Ethnic groups. Please read up Anthropological definitions of Tribe and ethnic group so that you can get a clearer picture.

Good day.

I can't believe someone would come out in the open to state the emboldened. THERE ARE THREE MAJOR ETHNIC GROUPS being Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba. In all, there are 256 ethnic groups in Nigeria. Other ethnic groups are considered minorities and there are sharp differences between tribes and ethnic groups even though they are linked.

The ethnic group submission thing used to be the thoughts of regular Yoruba folks who believe you must be Igbo if you are neither one of them or an Hausa. There is more to the complexity of Nigeria than the three MAJOR ethnic groups.

Fratermathy, I apologise. For some reasons, the mention wasn't visible and I didn't see it. I have seen a whole of lot of folks when don't have a life outside of here and they take pride in forming keyboard champs, you should clearly use the report button some other time, particularly if you don't have any interest in engaging them. Kudos, Oniovo.

Afam4eva:

So, are you saying that there are more ebira people than Igbo people in the SW.

Only in Lagos are more Igbo people than Ebira in the SW and Kwara.