davidodiba:


Are you human?

chuksanambra:


So, if they kill your pastor and rape his wife, once the murderous rapist gives his life to Christ, he's free?

chuksanambra:


So, if they kill your pastor and rape his wife, once the murderous rapist gives his life to Christ, he's free?

hahn:
This is how Christianity promotes immorality

It is like a pedophile that is on trial for murdering his victim allowed to go free simply because he knows the son of the judge and the state cancels his record of pedophilia. It is absolute nonsense and it is really baffling that adults can peddle such nonsense arrogantly in public

Bunch of ignoramuses who try to apply ancient ignorant barbarism in the modern world

Hier:


absolutely, God would forgive even the thief who did all form of evils just to get to the last minute and see Jesus and Jesus is saying to a repentant sinner is, Today, you shall be with me in paradise

Millz404:
God Forgives, the Government don't

Don't fvck around cos no judge is going to acquit you because u beg him for forgiveness on your knees.

You do the crime, you do the time or even worse.

jungle justice

Better Behave

GeneralOjukwu:



In that case. ..give me your sister/wife for some hot sessions. I would beg Jesus for forgiveness immediately after.

I would keep doing that till I supply pipe to all female members of your church

nunamyeong:
GOD that said HE will judge everyone according to their works do you think HE doesn't know what he is saying..

Hier:


Did I mention Government in my topic

ultimate77:
Can we relate Galatians 6vs 7 with 2cor 5 vs 17

Amhappy:


I think the person you quoted is trying to warn the abusers of that scripture. It's true that God forgives but the consequences may still be there.

Tearless:
OP, I will hack off your head and feed your body to my dog. Then I'll repent so that God will forgive me and I can make heaven. Can you see? So sweet and simple, but extremely stupid_ and evil.

GoodMuyis:


I strongly disagreed with you.
Which one is better?

To tell an immoral man that their is no God to judge is work, hence he gain confidence to remain wicked

OR

To tell an immoral man that there is God that will pardon his evil works IF he can repent, hence he sees compassion and change his from his wicked way

make i rest small..

Hier:


I wrote this post so as to give those who think God won't forgive them their past sin a different mindset about the personality of God, and by the way, I think we all need to come to the knowledge of Gods love towards us

chuksanambra:
Hier

So, if you steal a shirt from me and thereafter you claim to give your life to Christ, you think you'll be free from the consequences of your action? Any day I see you with my shirt, I'll put tyre round your neck. Go and explain your story to God in heaven.

When you give your life to Christ, you obtain SPIRITUAL forgiveness. It doesn't in any way confer PHYSICAL forgiveness. The only way to ensure physical forgiveness is to make peace with those you have wronged AKA restitution.

The law of sowing and reaping is not a spiritual law, it's a natural law. Hence, even if you claim to be saved, you must be responsible for the consequences your actions.

Giving your life to Christ wipes spiritual records, it doesn't delete your case file in Federal Sars.

hahn:
This is how Christianity promotes immorality

It is like a pedophile that is on trial for murdering his victim allowed to go free simply because he knows the son of the judge and the state cancels his record of pedophilia. It is absolute nonsense and it is really baffling that adults can peddle such nonsense arrogantly in public

Bunch of ignoramuses who try to apply ancient ignorant barbarism in the modern world

CzarChris:
I still haven't seen a complete explanation to this scripture. I am not much of a religious person, but I read my Bible and try to avoid evil. The same bible says that "whatever a man sows he shall reap", examples are abound in the Bible of people who were evil and repented of their evil, they were forgiven, but in one way or the other they paid for the sins they committed. I will like to use the Apostle Paul as an example, he oversaw Stephen's stoning and persecuted the early Christians, after repentance I don't know of any other Apostle that suffered as much as Paul did.
The Bible also wrote that heaven and earth shall pass away but my word shall remain, another passage wrote that non of his words shall ever fall to the ground. I believe that whatever a man sows he reaps, even though he is repentant or born again he must pay for his actions soon or later.
My thoughts anyway, then again what do I know?

hahn:
This is how Christianity promotes immorality

It is like a pedophile that is on trial for murdering his victim allowed to go free simply because he knows the son of the judge and the state cancels his record of pedophilia. It is absolute nonsense and it is really baffling that adults can peddle such nonsense arrogantly in public

Bunch of ignoramuses who try to apply ancient ignorant barbarism in the modern world

Kay17:


Don't you think there should be redemption for everyone?

greggng:


This is were I disagree with all u so called born again. Listen all sins must be paid for. We must pay for everything. Believe it or not.

IamaNigerianGuy:


Insofar as I would agree that some aspects of religion as a whole are questionable and that contemporary interpretations of Christianity especially Pentecostalism leave much to be desired with their ahistorical and unchristian focus on wealth, I must ask you to eschew your negative and militant atheism.

Christianity does not promote immorality. Far from it. Moral standards you enjoy today mostly come from the Aristotelian/Judean/Christristian teachings and traditions. Christian moral ideas from Jesus down through Augustine up to Calvin and the modernists like Dietrich Bonhoeffer (I leave out more than 30 other philosophers out of consideration for space), are responsible for much of the modern values we take for granted.

Christianity is at the root of the legal code practiced in just about all of Europe, America and the former colonies of both. Even Asians adopt many of Christian codes of conduct indirectly.

The killing of twins was stopped by Christian doctrines, the forgiveness of prisoners can be traced to christian ideals, same for the equality of the sexes and universal suffrage, Democracy is a Greek idea polished by Christian influence. Christianity preaches against usury, polytheism (partly for its destructive effect on society,), murder, adultery, stealing, bearing false witness, and showing unconcern at our fellow beings suffering. Even a respect for animals can be traced to Judeo/Christian teachings (one of the barbaric acts the Israelites noted about the Philistines was their habit of cutting off the leg of sheep for meat to keep the animal alive and the remainder fresh).
Finally, Christians and Christianity more than any other group brought and spread education to the world. This is no small feat. I would argue it is the strongest foundation of modern civilization

In the passage you quote, nobody, least of all Jesus is advocating that evil should go unpunished. Instead he means that no one is so bad that he will not be accepted into the fold if he repents. Remember the principal message of Jesus was forgiveness, love and repentance. The same Jesus declared a strict division between the religous and the political institutions : "Render unto Caesar what is Caesars ...."(Mark 12:17)
A world without punishment is not a christian world. A world without redemption isn't either.

I tend towards deism / theism/ agnosticism but that is not to say that I would support a misinterpretation of Christian doctrine in pursuit of my motives.

hahn:


How come despite the fact that Christianity teaches all these things you claim we still have a high rate of crime, public lynching, corruption, rituals, kidnapping by the same Christians in our country, Nigeria, despite having a church on every street and attending church service weekly?

chuksanambra:
Hier

So, if you steal a shirt from me and thereafter you claim to give your life to Christ, you think you'll be free from the consequences of your action? Any day I see you with my shirt, I'll put tyre round your neck. Go and explain your story to God in heaven.

When you give your life to Christ, you obtain SPIRITUAL forgiveness. It doesn't in any way confer PHYSICAL forgiveness. The only way to ensure physical forgiveness is to make peace with those you have wronged AKA restitution.

The law of sowing and reaping is not a spiritual law, it's a natural law. Hence, even if you claim to be saved, you must be responsible for the consequences your actions.

Giving your life to Christ wipes spiritual records, it doesn't delete your case file in Federal Sars.

hahn:


Of course not. If you commit a crime pay the time. That is the essence of responsibility. That is why we call ourselves adults

That said, god does not have the right to punish anyone for sin because it created sin and created us with full knowledge of our sins before we even commit them, if the claim of it being omniscient and omnipresent are anything to go by, and therefore the responsibility of our crimes rest on it

Fortunately, men of the judiciary know to ignore god when passing sentences because they understand every man is responsible for his actions

I am yet to see a single criminal that was found guilty and allowed to walk free just because he/she is a "born again" Christian

OtemAtum:
yes, a human-god

Hier:

Many people are living under condemnation all their lives, not knowing what to do. Like someone earlier said, what shall separate us from the Love that abound in Christ.

God sincerely Loves us, but we need to tell people God loves them at times, is not everytime we should be screaming the Hell gospel

adepeter26:

I as well do ask this question bro.

Its been a while you made comments on NL. Long time