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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ivolt: 2:44pm On Jun 27, 2017
GeneralOjukwu:


Joke is actually on you because you skipped the other points.

I am very open to suggestions. Since you don't want to use Nobels as a criterion for measuring intelligence...any suggestions?

Any points to contradict my initial post? That you can not provide any alternative is a poor indicator of your brain size....

Sorry, but that's the harsh truth.

As I said before, those obsessed with IQ have nothing else going for them
and are likely the bottom feeders.

I would have responded thoroughly to your post but your response to other
posters shows you as an uncouth,arrogant and dogmatic fellow.

I also believe that you are incapable of understanding complex ideas,
just like teaching a blind man the colors in a rainbow, debating you will be a waste of time.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by salegella: 2:48pm On Jun 27, 2017
winkmart:


Mr Langton Ndlovu, a Christian, described the move as ‘diabolical’.

“This is demonic, in this day and age, I never thought this was real. That’s unacceptable. I wonder how they read the scripture that says “there is neither Greek nor Jew” but we’re one in Christ,” said Mr Ndlovu.

The president of the South Africa Union Council of Independent Churches, Archbishop Modiri Patrick Shole, expressed shock that there was still segregation in the body of Christ, 23 years after apartheid ended.


“We don’t discriminate in church because before God we are one – whether white or black.
I find it weird that we still have discrimination in the church,” he said.



At the bolded; Christians are not obliged to follow the teachings of the Bible, rather, the have to follow the teachings of the churches to the letter. That is what we have been told by Bible thumpers and hot gospellers. So the leader of that Church was right.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by RaptorX: 3:01pm On Jun 27, 2017
White people generally whether American European or South African don't give a fvck about blacks, just that Africans like to lick their asses and want to be friends by force.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by delishpot: 3:04pm On Jun 27, 2017
GeneralOjukwu:


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Finished crying ? Here's a cookie, sonny! What have you invented Mr smart? How many Nobels have you won? Please don't count the ones you win perennially for stup1dity along with your parents. grin

Leave that guy. Him no know say "I get am before" no be property! Na wetin you get now and know now naim matter pass.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by delishpot: 3:08pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
Black Africans invented mathematics and writing, were the word's first seafarers and international traders. The oldest planned cities on earth are in Africa. Google the city of Kerma. Over 5,000 years old with geometric design, brick temples and monuments. Architecture was invented by blacks. There are pyramids in the Sudan thousands of years older than the oldest building in Europe. Astronomy and the sciences were begun by blacks. Whites are newcomers to civilisation. They got in at the tail end, merely capitalising on thousands of years of black ingenuity. You need to go and learn the true history of this world instead of being a conditioned slave who thinks he is 'inferior'.

So did the black brain stop evolving? Why have we not gone light years ahead of the white men that you claim are using our own technologies to outshine us?

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Nobody: 3:11pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
But Africa did build formidable societies. Pre-colonial Africans were minding their business here in prosperous kingdoms, before the whites came.
Just like you said, "No race is immune from vices" You can be very sure that pre-colonial Africans did fight wars among themselves, just as much as pre-colonial whites. War is one of the defining characteristics of nations/settlements/villages/clans/families whatever you call the group.

Rossikki:
The white man, if you know him well, doesn't see blacks or other races living well and "want to come and live". He sees that and wants to destroy, subjugate, or steal it. That is the lesson of history from Australia to Mexico, from Arabia to Africa. From New Zealand to India and the Caribbean. They go, they see people living peacefully, and they seek to destroy the societies out of their greed and racism.

Men are greedy. That is what leads to war. A fight over resources, be it natural resources or human resources. No nation ever went to war with a nation of beggars. Nations go to war with each other all the time. I can assure you that if it were Nigeria that had the upper hand like Britain once did, they would be conquistadors.

But you're trying to inject racism into the mix all the time. If they were so possessed with the thought that blacks were any less human, the logical thing to do would be to work to exterminate them rather than putting them to work in plantations. Using live gorillas for work could have given them less headache. That in itself shows that they quite agree that a black man is a rational being. Wars are about resources mostly. Racism doesn't go as far as you wish it to.

But by this your argument, would you agree with me that South Africans are being racist by attacking Nigerians who were prospering in their country? Will you agree that what is good for chukwuemeka should also be good for chukwunonso. If you fail to indict the South Africans involved in those atrocities, then, you have no ground on which to indict the white man on the charge of racism.

Rossikki:
The sad thing is they then got you to believe they are angels, and you now hate your own and love them.
Frankly I chuckled on this one.

I don't hate anybody. I just have a different view on things. Second time now you're attacking my person.


But one is forced to ask, why has Africa not found its genius after all this time? What changed?

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by RaptorX: 3:12pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
Black Africans invented mathematics and writing, were the word's first seafarers and international traders. The oldest planned cities on earth are in Africa. Google the city of Kerma. Over 5,000 years old with geometric design, brick temples and monuments. Architecture was invented by blacks. There are pyramids in the Sudan thousands of years older than the oldest building in Europe. Astronomy and the sciences were begun by blacks. Whites are newcomers to civilisation. They got in at the tail end, merely capitalising on thousands of years of black ingenuity. You need to go and learn the true history of this world instead of being a conditioned slave who thinks he is 'inferior'.
Africans always talking about what they achieved 50000 years ago, this is 2017 and you could barely feed yourself and thousands of you are drowning in the Mediterranean Sea to get to oyinbo country. Fake pride.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Donwilly20(m): 3:29pm On Jun 27, 2017
lonelydora:
What will the pastor be preaching in such a church? A racist church?

Ah, Jesus please when are you coming back?
are u ready?
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by seangy4konji: 3:46pm On Jun 27, 2017
Not new.

A friend of mine who hosted me in midrand had a pregnant mixed blood girl and she said we should go greet her parents and the girl prepared moimoi for us.

After entering the community where this girl stayed? I was wondering if I was still in South Africa. We drove over 40 mins and I did not see a single black. Just white males and females in cargo shorts and boots and hats.rich looking land cruisers and garages that showed wealth.would think you were in Netherlands or Australia. with a bit of their junkie also smoking anywhere.

I just pitied the blacks who were uptown suffering and hating on their fellow blacks.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 3:46pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
You are a demented fool. Only on nairaland can someone type what you did and not get banned. I suppose you reckon YOU and your mother and kids have lower IQs than white people? Have you told them that, or you're far too much of a coward to? Shameless, colonised dunderhead. If you had a working brain and did some research, you would know that whites have been enslaved and even ruled by blacks and Arabs in history. Ever heard of the Moors? That must mean they have a higher IQ than whites, by your Onitsha trader logic. When they ask you ignorant peabrains to go to school you will refuse. Bush fool.

His post is quite annoying but I refrained from responding (how many rubbish I go fit reply to for this forum ?).
A Harvard President actually got sacked for making a similar statement.
He is simply suffering from an inferiority complex and I understand why this could be so.
@Rossikki: Thanks for the link to Kerma - I had never heard of it before. The formal history of man is an incomplete patchwork of stories that excludes many phenomenon and actors, the black man inclusive, but we are asked to accept the narrative without question.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by acorntree(m): 3:50pm On Jun 27, 2017
TheLordIsGr8:

Just like you said, "No race is immune from vices" You can be very sure that pre-colonial Africans did fight wars among themselves, just as much as pre-colonial whites. War is one of the defining characteristics of nations/settlements/villages/clans/families whatever you call the group.



Men are greedy. That is what leads to war. A fight over resources, be it natural resources or human resources. No nation ever went to war with a nation of beggars. Nations go to war with each other all the time. I can assure you that if it were Nigeria that had the upper hand like Britain once did, they would be conquistadors.

But you're trying to inject racism into the mix all the time. If they were so possessed with the thought that blacks were any less human, the logical thing to do would be to work to exterminate them rather than putting them to work in plantations. Using live gorillas for work could have given them less headache. That in itself shows that they quite agree that a black man is a rational being. Wars are about resources mostly. Racism doesn't go as far as you wish it to.

But by this your argument, would you agree with me that South Africans are being racist by attacking Nigerians who were prospering in their country? Will you agree that what is good for chukwuemeka should also be good for chukwunonso. If you fail to indict the South Africans involved in those atrocities, then, you have no ground on which to indict the white man on the charge of racism.


Frankly I chuckled on this one.

I don't hate anybody. I just have a different view on things. Second time now you're attacking my person.


But one is forced to ask, why has Africa not found its genius after all this time? What changed?
African blacks have the lowest IQ of all human races on the surface of the Earth. Research has shown that African problems are not only due to colonisation, geographical factors etc but the level of intelligent of its inhabitants. IQ and wealth of nations explained this in details.
You will see some morons collecting bags of rice,money during elections and shouting sai baba for an old grandpa to lead them in this twenty first century.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Nobody: 3:54pm On Jun 27, 2017
acorntree:

African blacks have the lowest IQ of all human races on the surface of the Earth. Research has shown that African problems are not only due to colonisation, geographical factors etc but the level of intelligent of its inhabitants. IQ and wealth of nations explained this in details

Well, I don't have much to say about this IQ and research thing. I have learnt to take the words of the "experts" with a bowl of salt. Research could always be produced to justify any pre-conceived conclusion.

I don't have time or power to fact-check or argue, so I rest my case.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ephi123(f): 3:54pm On Jun 27, 2017
IamaNigerianGuy:


His post is quite annoying but I refrained from responding (how many rubbish I go fit reply to for this forum ?).
A Harvard President actually got sacked for making a similar statement.
He is simply suffering from an inferiority complex and I understand why this could be so.

grin grin
As many as possible!
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ephi123(f): 3:55pm On Jun 27, 2017
TheLordIsGr8:


Many blacks cause trouble wherever they are accepted. Fact!!! I don't blame the church people.

Sad to see this kind of reasoning. Very sad.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Nobody: 3:58pm On Jun 27, 2017
ephi123:


Sad to see this kind of reasoning. Very sad.

I'm equally sad to see you are sad about hearing the truth. cry cry cry

The way these guys are shouting racism, if they eventually are accepted into the group, that is the same way they would see every action of the host from a racist perspective. Everyone will have to tip-toe around them so as not to cause offense.

Their church, their rules.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ephi123(f): 4:03pm On Jun 27, 2017
TheLordIsGr8:


I'm equally sad to see you are sad about hearing the truth. cry cry cry

The way these guys are shouting racism, if they eventually are accepted into the group, that is the same way they would see every action of the host from a racist perspective. Everyone will have to tip-toe around them so as not to cause offense.

Their church, their rules.

cry cry very unfortunate. Pity.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 4:14pm On Jun 27, 2017
delishpot:


So did the black brain stop evolving? Why have we not gone light years ahead of the white men that you claim are using our own technologies to outshine us?
That is why you need to study history before commenting. If you did, you would know that no race or region is permanently "ahead" of the rest. Everyone rises and falls in their time, to be replaced by others. And it is no reason to feel inferior or unintelligent when it is your turn to struggle.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by AngelicBeing: 4:15pm On Jun 27, 2017
ephi123:


Sad to see this kind of reasoning. Very sad.
l sent you a message on whatsapp and you blocked me, l sent a Pm and you ignored, hian, be careful before I get angry tongue
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by TrajansKong: 4:19pm On Jun 27, 2017
ivolt:


The right question is why are blacks obsessed with foreign gods,
it is the white man's god and church why must a black man partake in the service ?
This ^^^!!

If we were told loudly and clearly to faaak aaarff from each and every oyinbo congregation in the world, we still wouldn't get the message!!

We will crawl backwards, disembowelled over broken glass to be accepted in their assemblies.

It's too late. Our Christians can no longer breathe or exist apart from them.

Africa... lipsrsealed

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 4:19pm On Jun 27, 2017
acorntree:

African blacks have the lowest IQ of all human races on the surface of the Earth. Research has shown that African problems are not only due to colonisation, geographical factors etc but the level of intelligent of its inhabitants. IQ and wealth of nations explained this in details.
You will see some morons collecting bags of rice,money during elections and shouting sai baba for an old grandpa to lead them in this twenty first century.
You can take your discredited, fake research from quack pseudoscience and stick it right back up your stinky anus.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by joroville: 4:22pm On Jun 27, 2017
You are reasonable
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by GeneralOjukwu: 4:23pm On Jun 27, 2017
ivolt:


As I said before, those obsessed with IQ have nothing else going for them
and are likely the bottom feeders.

I would have responded thoroughly to your post but your response to other
posters shows you as an uncouth,arrogant and dogmatic fellow.

I also believe that you are incapable of understanding complex ideas,
just like teaching a blind man the colors in a rainbow, debating you will be a waste of time.


Yawn at all the trash written above....

You had better not try debating with me, all I would do is make you prove your own f00lishness by yourself. ....using a MIRROR.

Arriverderci ....Go and play elsewhere
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ephi123(f): 4:24pm On Jun 27, 2017
AngelicBeing:
l sent you a message on whatsapp and you blocked me, l sent a Pm and you ignored, hian, be careful before I get angry tongue

cheesy tongue that must have been my alter ego that blocked you

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 4:25pm On Jun 27, 2017
RaptorX:
Africans always talking about what they achieved 50000 years ago, this is 2017 and you could barely feed yourself and thousands of you are drowning in the Mediterranean Sea to get to oyinbo country. Fake pride.
If Africans had not achieved what they did, there would be no modern civilisation to speak of today, so YES, WE WILL REMIND YOU AND THE WORLD THAT WE STARTED CIVILIZATION, next time you try to tell us we are inferior or unintelligent. If whites are so smart how come they had to wait for blacks to invent architecture, discover the sciences, discover mining of minerals, invent mathematics and writing, invent cities, and perfect those things for tens of thousands of years, before the whites finally crawled out of their caves in the Caucasus mountains barely 2,000 years ago?
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by AngelicBeing: 4:28pm On Jun 27, 2017
ephi123:


cheesy tongue that must have been my alter ego that blocked you
if I get blocked again by you, America will hear and I will completely disconnect all your lines from your service providers, enough said, I will send another Pm in 72days time grin

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by GeneralOjukwu: 4:29pm On Jun 27, 2017
IamaNigerianGuy:


His post is quite annoying but I refrained from responding (how many rubbish I go fit reply to for this forum ?).
A Harvard President actually got sacked for making a similar statement.
He is simply suffering from an inferiority complex and I understand why this could be so.
@Rossikki: Thanks for the link to Kerma - I had never heard of it before. The formal history of man is an incomplete patchwork of stories that excludes many phenomenon and actors, the black man inclusive, but we are asked to accept the narrative without question.

Mr superiority complex. ..We need to know how many Nobels you won, technological achievements that can be attributed to you.

If not, it's best to keep quiet instead of showing your brain size to the world.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by loomer: 4:29pm On Jun 27, 2017
AreaFada2:


Church for politics. grin cheesy


Make them go the church na, weda dem go see offering plenty
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 4:31pm On Jun 27, 2017
GeneralOjukwu:


Mr superiority complex. ..We need to know how many Nobels you won, technological achievements that can be attributed to you.

If not, it's best to keep quiet instead of showing your brain size to the world.
The Nobel committee is a group of white men sitting in Sweden. Blacks must wait for some white guys in Sweden to award them their 'Nobel prize', for what reason again?

This is why I say many of you are unqualified to discuss issues such as this. You cannot reason beyond the most basic, shallow level because you have no interest in research, studying, or expanding your knowledge and awareness.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ephi123(f): 4:32pm On Jun 27, 2017
AngelicBeing:
if I get blocked again by you, America will hear and I will completely disconnect all your lines from your service providers, enough said, I will send another Pm in 72days time grin

rotfl!!! grin please sir, don't let America hear, haha!

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by enemyofprogress: 4:33pm On Jun 27, 2017
Na so nnamdi kanu take start him madness today we are still looking for who to cure him
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by AngelicBeing: 4:35pm On Jun 27, 2017
ephi123:


rotfl!!! grin please sir, don't let America hear, haha!
Lol tongue

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by GeneralOjukwu: 4:39pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
The Nobel committee is a group of white men sitting in Sweden. Blacks must wait for some white guys in Sweden to award them their 'Nobel prize', for what reason again?

This is why I say many of you are unqualified to discuss issues such as this. You cannot reason beyond the most basic, shallow level because you have no interest in research, studying, or expanding your knowledge and awareness.

Mr man....instead of ranting up and down, do something simple.

Use a set of criteria to justify why you claim the level of intelligence of Blacks is superior to or even at the level of that of Whites.

I used Nobels and technological achievements. You and your horde have just been bawling without direction.

Did Africans discover electricity? Internet ? Electronics? If they didn't, what achievement can rival that of Whites?

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