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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 4:40pm On Jun 27, 2017
IamaNigerianGuy:


His post is quite annoying but I refrained from responding (how many rubbish I go fit reply to for this forum ?).
A Harvard President actually got sacked for making a similar statement.
He is simply suffering from an inferiority complex and I understand why this could be so.
@Rossikki: Thanks for the link to Kerma - I had never heard of it before. The formal history of man is an incomplete patchwork of stories that excludes many phenomenon and actors, the black man inclusive, but we are asked to accept the narrative without question.
Oh yes... I learnt about Kerma after reading "The Destruction of Black Civilization" by the late Dr Chancellor Williams. Williams was an African-American historian who spent 20 years exploring African nations in his quest to trace the history of the continent. It is an amazing book that has been called the Black Man's Bible. You will learn many things about ancient Africa in that book.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Nobody: 4:44pm On Jun 27, 2017
rafhell:
Black South African are probably the worst set of people in the world.
Not even close.We all know who are the world's biggest human traffickers

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by delishpot: 4:47pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
That is why you need to study history before commenting. If you did, you would know that no race or region is permanently "ahead" of the rest. Everyone rises and falls in their time, to be replaced by others. And it is no reason to feel inferior or unintelligent when it is your turn to struggle.

We then should focus on growth nobody succeeds on past glory alone. When you fall down plan to rise up not to sit in the dirt and blame others. What are we doing to rise up? We shoukd learn from history. Those who attain light should learn how to keep it glowing. That is what that your history lessons shoukd have taught you. History goes beyound the story. It should serve as a guide.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 4:55pm On Jun 27, 2017
delishpot:


We then should focus on growth nobody succeeds on past glory alone. When you fall down plan to rise up not to sit in the dirt and blame others. What are we doing to rise up? We shoukd learn from history. Those who attain light should learn how to keep it glowing. That is what that your history lessons shoukd have taught you. History goes beyound the story. It should serve as a guide.
How do we learn from history when the majority of you have zero interest in your history? You prefer to glorify whites and their history. Right here in Nigeria sits the largest man made structure EVER built - The Benin earthworks. You can see it on Google Earth, such is its huge size. Not far from it is the Eredo earthworks in Ijebu, which required more earth in its construction than was needed to build the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. These are world class achievements, which, had they been located in England or Germany, or the US, would have been restored, cleaned up, and promoted as tourist attractions. And you guys would have sought visas to go there and admire them. But because you people despise yourselves and your history, and have been colonised into feeling worthless, you ignore the achievements of your ancestors, and peddle discredited theories of black inferiority. That is the problem. Just look at some comments on this thread by supposed Africans. It's shameful.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by delishpot: 5:05pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
How do we learn from history when the majority of you have zero interest in your history? You prefer to glorify whites and their history. Right here in Nigeria sits the largest man made structure EVER built - The Benin earthworks. You can see it on Google Earth, such is its huge size. Not far from it is the Eredo earthworks in Ijebu, which required more earth in its construction than was needed to build the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. These are world class achievements, which, had they been in England or Germany, or the US, would have been restored, cleaned up, and promoted as tourist attractions. And you guys would have sought visas to go there and admire them. But because you people despise yourselves and your history, and have been colonised into feeling worthless, you ignore the achievements of your ancestors, and peddle discredited theories of black inferiority. That is the problem. Just look at some comments on this thread by supposed Africans. It's shameful.

Hahaha, you mistake me for someone you used to know. I want a better Africa more than you sef. The sooner we learn from our mistakes and history the better our story.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 5:07pm On Jun 27, 2017
delishpot:


Hahaha, you mistake me for someone you used to know. I want a better Africa more than you sef. The sooner we learn from our mistakes and history the better our story.
Ok..sorry if I misrepresented you, but you get the drift.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by delishpot: 5:13pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
Ok..sorry if I misrepresented you, but you get the drift.

Yes I do.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 5:15pm On Jun 27, 2017
GeneralOjukwu:


Mr man....instead of ranting up and down, do something simple.

Use a set of criteria to justify why you claim the level of intelligence of Blacks is superior to or even at the level of that of Whites.

I used Nobels and technological achievements. You and your horde have just been bawling without direction.

Did Africans discover electricity? Internet ? Electronics? If they didn't, what achievement can rival that of Whites?
Africans invented/discovered speech, writing, mathematics, astronomy, medicine, philosophy, architecture, cities, laws, international trade, sea travel and religion. Africans perfected these disciplines for thousands of years, while the whites were chasing each other with clubs and sticks in bear skins, in the Caucasus mountains of Northern Europe. None of what you consider 'white achievements' today would have been remotely possible if those black inventions had not been made prior. They built on black and Asian achievements. There are interesting images from ancient Egypt, which was a black civilisation, suggesting that they were familiar with electricity, and what we term 'modern' technology, including flight. Fact is there is nothing new under the sun. The trouble is you have failed to research and expand your knowledge base and awareness, especially with regard to African history.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:16pm On Jun 27, 2017
If the South African government could have accepted the existence of such a community in their midst, then I guess no one can complain. They were foolish enough to accept segregation in their midst.

I don't overly get outraged by racism. Ultimately, all human groups are racist. Black people only cry the most about racism for the simple fact they're by far the biggest victims, seeing as they occupy the bottom of every single society they inhabit - whether they're the majority or minority group. Racism is human nature.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ExInferis(m): 5:26pm On Jun 27, 2017
Moreoffaith:
grin grin grin grin

Before you blame anybody ask why white phone is more expensive than black.

In what planet is white phone more expensive than black?
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 5:38pm On Jun 27, 2017
ephi123:


grin grin
As many as possible!

No way.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Nobody: 5:55pm On Jun 27, 2017
[quote author=Jaqenhghar post=57884061]
The same happens here

I can take you to clubs and establishmebts here in Nigeria where blacks are not allowed[/quote


Can you please give me at last one establishment?unless Nigerians are not aware but am yet to c the organization that atleast to a level isn't threatened by Nigerians over discrimination they might get away but to a large extent we curtail it
Please mention them and I guarantee you that if a thread is created with the list ,in less than a month such must change
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by lepasharon(f): 5:57pm On Jun 27, 2017
Fake news undecided
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Jaqenhghar: 6:34pm On Jun 27, 2017
[quote author=nurshah post=57893878][/quote]
Lebanon club, Bompai Kano. In that same kano we have a mosque where only Lebanese pray there. They also have a cemetry where only Lebanese are buried. For years that jas been the tradition. All this your talk I dont know how you intend to change that but here is the example

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Moreoffaith(m): 7:34pm On Jun 27, 2017
ExInferis:


In what planet is white phone more expensive than black?

Na Pluto...

Na yesterday you start to dey use phone
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ExInferis(m): 7:43pm On Jun 27, 2017
Moreoffaith:


Na Pluto...

Na yesterday you start to dey use phone

No i started an hour ago.

But you still haven't answered the question.

Or are you too dimwitted to answer?
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Caseless: 7:57pm On Jun 27, 2017
jerryBoss1:
Good for them xenophobic people una never suffer yet !!
this is the comment i've been scrolling to see.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by babapressy(m): 8:08pm On Jun 27, 2017
Some people read d bible from the back
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 8:46pm On Jun 27, 2017
Obi1kenobi:
If the South African government could have accepted the existence of such a community in their midst, then I guess no one can complain. They were foolish enough to accept segregation in their midst.

I don't overly get outraged by racism. Ultimately, all human groups are racist. Black people only cry the most about racism for the simple fact they're by far the biggest victims, seeing as they occupy the bottom of every single society they inhabit - whether they're the majority or minority group. Racism is human nature.

Blacks are not at the bottom in the UK or the USA. That would be Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans (UK), and native Americans (USA). Also, I believe Africans in France do a lot better than the Arabs there, who tend to live in ghettoes.

Racism is not ''human nature''. People are taught to be racist. That is why a black person rarely gets harassed in Sweden or Holland, but is always a target in Russia. If it was ''human nature'', it would occur equally everywhere.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by IdeyFindWife: 8:47pm On Jun 27, 2017
positivelord
So this goes on in South Africa and yet those lazy south african blacks were busy asking Nigerians to leave, while the white takes the choice places and segregate. its ok

Aint that a charm?
But the truth is most Blacks would rather be an Uncle-Tom-ish 'Cain' picking on a harmless 'Abel' fellow black-brother than than taking up their case at fundamental level with whatever external force that's at work.

Rossikki:

Africans invented/discovered speech, writing, mathematics, astronomy, medicine, philosophy, architecture, cities, laws, international trade, sea travel and religion. Africans perfected these disciplines for thousands of years, while the whites were chasing each other with clubs and sticks in bear skins, in the Caucasus mountains of Northern Europe. None of what you consider 'white achievements' today would have been remotely possible if those black inventions had not been made prior. They built on black and Asian achievements. There are interesting images from ancient Egypt, which was a black civilisation, suggesting that they were familiar with electricity, and what we term 'modern' technology, including flight. Fact is there is nothing new under the sun. The trouble is you have failed to research and expand your knowledge base and awareness, especially with regard to African history.

Your patience in suffering and educating f00ls is legendary. I would've flipped on my 5th comment.

Nothing like watching a set of self-hating uncle-toms displaying their freakshow of rettarded "whitey-worship" to bring up your lunch in disgust. And some even make references to Christianity, God etc while at it, wonderful. This N/L is indeed a circus of demented clowns all grown on the worst kind of mis-education. I recommend 'using' ur NL app sparingly.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Pylony(m): 9:02pm On Jun 27, 2017
They should go and start clearing their corner in heaven abi na hell sef.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 9:04pm On Jun 27, 2017
IdeyFindWife:


Your patience in suffering and educating f00ls is legendary. I would've flipped on my 5th comment.

Nothing like watching a set of self-hating uncle-toms displaying their freakshow of rettarded "whitey-worship" to bring up your lunch in disgust. And some even make references to Christianity, God etc while at it, wonderful. This N/L is indeed a circus of demented clowns all grown on the worst kind of mis-education. I recommend 'using' ur NL app sparingly.


My brother... I really despair for them. Some of the things they write are so cringeworthy, you just pray other people around the world are not reading this site.

And the saddest part of it is that that are basically stating that THEY themselves are personally inferior to the average white person, in intellect and everything else. It's a complete failure and demise of the human being in his self-worth and respect. How can people live like that? I actually feel sorry for them. It must be such a heavy weight to carry around - this burden of manufactured insignificance.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Moreoffaith(m): 9:16pm On Jun 27, 2017
ExInferis:


No i started an hour ago.

But you still haven't answered the question.

Or are you too dimwitted to answer?

Try and google the price of white bold 2, bold 5, white blackberry classic and compare it to the price of black in the market then.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by ExInferis(m): 9:24pm On Jun 27, 2017
Moreoffaith:


Try and google the price of white bold 2, bold 5, white blackberry classic and compare it to the price of black in the market then.

Just cause your brothers in naija are ripping you off doesn't make it the norm.

Phones of same specs and build sell the same irrespective of color.

Check any reputable seller or the vendor's website.

Do you even google?

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by lonelydora: 9:30pm On Jun 27, 2017
Donwilly20:
are u ready?

Yes, very ready.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Jaqenhghar: 9:30pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:
How do we learn from history when the majority of you have zero interest in your history? You prefer to glorify whites and their history. Right here in Nigeria sits the largest man made structure EVER built - The Benin earthworks. You can see it on Google Earth, such is its huge size. Not far from it is the Eredo earthworks in Ijebu, which required more earth in its construction than was needed to build the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. These are world class achievements, which, had they been located in England or Germany, or the US, would have been restored, cleaned up, and promoted as tourist attractions. And you guys would have sought visas to go there and admire them. But because you people despise yourselves and your history, and have been colonised into feeling worthless, you ignore the achievements of your ancestors, and peddle discredited theories of black inferiority. That is the problem. Just look at some comments on this thread by supposed Africans. It's shameful.
Nobody is disputing your history Mr. Man but the world has evolved since then invention of the wheel. you cant continue living in the past. You talk as if when the white man came to Nigeria he saw sky scrapers and electricity. I tell you what they saw. They saw huts with grass roofs. Instead of roads they saw foot paths.
Its like saying you were the first man to be educated in your village with a Bsc. then you refuse to build on it. Instead you strut around your village posing with your BSc. then years later you have young men using their degrees to invent stuff and carry out research making you and your old Bsc irrelevant. Then you start blaming the young men for forging ahead and leaving you behind. That you are African doesnt mean anyone owes you anything. You get up and work hard. Thays what tue Chinese did. Thats what the South Americans are doing. You dont lie down and become great overnight
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:34pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:


Blacks are not at the bottom in the UK or the USA. That would be Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans (UK), and native Americans (USA). Also, I believe Africans in France do a lot better than the Arabs there, who tend to live in ghettoes.

Racism is not ''human nature''. People are taught to be racist. That is why a black person rarely gets harassed in Sweden or Holland, but is always a target in Russia. If it was ''human nature'', it would occur equally everywhere.

Yes, blacks are at the bottom. In the US, the median income is currently lowest among blacks despite the advantage they once had over Hispanics (many of who had less opportunities due to legal status) and native Americans. And the gap is only growing. In the UK, the black population has the lowest mean wage. I'm not cherry picking stats about Sri Lankans and Bangladeshis and Somalis and Sudanese and whoever you want to include. Among the racial classifications, it's a simple fact blacks are at the bottom.

Racism is human for the same reason we don't love indiscriminately. Else, there's no reason we should love our family any more than random strangers on the street. At any unit of society (family, kin, hamlet, sub-ethnicity and language/dialect groups, ethicity/tribe, nationality, state, race etc....even religion) we're wired to define ourselves in terms of what we have in common with others. Depending on where I am, I define myself in terms of my identity as maybe an Oraukwu man (my hometown), an Idemili man (which would differentiate me from an Ihiala or Awka man), an Anambra man (which would seperate me from an Ebonyi man), an Igbo man, a Nigerian, a black man, an African...It's perfectly human nature. And when you band together collectively, it's impossible not to favour those that share common traits over more distant people. It's a perfectly human emotion. Every human being thinks racist thoughts. Some just express it more than others.

Who says black people don't get harassed in Sweden or Holland. The far-right party of Geert Wilders which ran on a platform of demonizing non-white people and immigrants at a stage led the Dutch polls before he ultimately lost in the election proper. There is no utopia where racism doesn't exist. Some countries are just worse than others.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jun 27, 2017
Jaqenhghar:

Lebanon club, Bompai Kano. In that same kano we have a mosque where only Lebanese pray there. They also have a cemetry where only Lebanese are buried. For years that jas been the tradition. All this your talk I dont know how you intend to change that but here is the example


Kano,right? Shebi u don talk alright. Whether ba only talk I dey do is my business right? I initially never liked Lebanese ..so setting up a propaganda is very easy

*Modified*

I just confirmed ... You are lying ..people are allowed into Lebanon club .won't go further on this with you but I employ any nairalanderin kano to please go and confirm
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Jaqenhghar: 9:37pm On Jun 27, 2017
nurshah:



Kano,right? Shebi u don talk alright. Whether ba only talk I dey do is my business right? I initially never liked Lebanese ..so setting up a propaganda is very easy
Good luck with the propaganda in a country where her citizens still call Lebanese, Chinese and Indians "master"
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by IdeyFindWife: 9:49pm On Jun 27, 2017
Rossikki:


My brother... I really despair for them. Some of the things they write are so cringeworthy, you just pray other people around the world are not reading this site.

And the saddest part of it is that that are basically stating that THEY themselves are personally inferior to the average white person, in intellect and everything else. It's a complete failure and demise of the human being in his self-worth and respect. How can people live like that? I actually feel sorry for them. It must be such a heavy weight to carry around - this burden of manufactured insignificance.


That's why it becomes perplexing just considering the fact that you share nationalities with such neanderthals.

You wonder whatever went wrong with their evolution? How come they had to branch off so far back, so long ago because it not only takes exceptionally rettarded imbeciles, sharing whose oxygen might infect you with the worst, most cancerous case of life-shortening retardation, but also a lost, hopeless, future-less people whose societies must have failed on every level to produce such self-suicidal mongrels? How do you balance such equations? How do you redeem such a people?

You hype an American with "Land of the Free"; he answers back with "home of the brave"! The fundamental philosophy for their capitalism and equal opportunity American Dream. Even the ninnies know it but ask an average Nigerian youth what the "Nigerian Dream" is; they can't tell you in 2 pages of long prose neither will the submissions of one youth have any serious "rhyme or reason" with the depositions of another on that same subject! And the government's busy pussyfooting playing to the gallery of greed, misrule and insensitivity while country's falling to bits. Things fall apart indeed.

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Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Rossikki: 9:55pm On Jun 27, 2017
Jaqenhghar:

Nobody is disputing your history Mr. Man but the world has evolved since then invention of the wheel. you cant continue living in the past. You talk as if when the white man came to Nigeria he saw sky scrapers and electricity. I tell you what they saw. They saw huts with grass roofs. Instead of roads they saw foot paths.
Its like saying you were the first man to be educated in your village with a Bsc. then you refuse to build on it. Instead you strut around your village posing with your BSc. then years later you have young men using their degrees to invent stuff and carry out research making you and your old Bsc irrelevant. Then you start blaming the young men for forging ahead and leaving you behind. That you are African doesnt mean anyone owes you anything. You get up and work hard. Thays what tue Chinese did. Thats what the South Americans are doing. You dont lie down and become great overnight

I did not come on here talking about African history out of the blue. It was in response to insinuations and outright statements by you and those who think like you, to the effect that blacks are somehow intellectually deficient by nature, compared to white people.

You see, when you make such an insinuation online, you MUST expect people to call you out on it. Why? Because you are peddling baseless, discredited theories of racial superiority that sane, educated, intelligent and even unintelligent people the world over, have long ago rejected as unfounded.

Scientifically it is baseless. No respected scientist supports it. Historically, which is where I come in, it is baseless. WE MUST TALK HISTORY because the world did not start today. To claim that one race is superior to the other, you MUST explore the entire length of human existence, to see who did what, and when, from start to the present day. You don't consider just the present day. Or the last 100 or 200 years, in a 10,000 year recorded human history.

Why?

Because you are an educated man, not a child. By looking at the present day alone, you are like a baby asked to bathe himself, who only washes his belly. So instead of that trash you typed above, start to think objectively, like an intellectual. Or else you should go and get a refund on your education, because it did nothing. Let me ask you something. If you were called to address an international conference or even a national conference on development issues in Africa vis a vis the western hemisiphere, will you go there and start saying, ''You see the white man is better and more intelligent than we Africans, and that is why he is ahead and we are backwards''. Is that what you will say at the conference? I'd really like to know.
Re: South African Church Bars Black People From Attending Its Service by Nobody: 9:55pm On Jun 27, 2017
Jaqenhghar:

Good luck with the propaganda in a country where her citizens still call Lebanese, Chinese and Indians "master"


Why would u stoop so low as to lie for goodness sake . .people are allowed Ib the mosque as well as club .
You are such an evil person

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