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Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by NigerianScholar: 1:59pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Why does a parent test his children Why does a teacher test his children |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by hopefulLandlord: 2:32pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
NigerianScholar: because they're NOT omniscient! easy peasy now answer my own question |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by NigerianScholar: 3:05pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:They are not omniscient...agreed. but they should know everything about the person they are testing...their abilities e.t.c. the test is never for the teacher.....its for the student Can a teacher give grades without testing even though the teacher has an idea of what the student will get? If God made us not perfectly pure. Many people would have been like. He should have given us the chance. We re not stupid we wouldnt have eaten the forbiddem fruit etv |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by hopefulLandlord: 3:14pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
NigerianScholar: NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT!! a teacher can't "know everything" about the person they're testing, that's why we have tests in the first place!!! This is a blatant case of Fallacy of False Equivalence teacher may "have an idea", agreed BUT he doesn't KNOW he only has an idea, whereas an Omniscient being KNOWS for sure and not "idea" BIG DIFFERENCE!!! this is non sequitur and ignoratio elenchi now have a go at the question again cuz all your attempts so far have been totally off the mark Why should an omniscient being test his creation? you brought teachers-student scenario into the discussion and I've shown that its a totally different ball game from an omniscient-creation scenario cuz omniscience is not there in the former but there in the latter now please give it a much better shot 6 Likes |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by NigerianScholar: 5:18pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: The teacher will know the ability of the student. But the test is not for the teacher...it is for the student. God is omniscient but we re not. And the teacher student scenario can be used as an xample |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by hopefulLandlord: 5:38pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
NigerianScholar: you're still committing fallacy of false equivalence teacher doesn't KNOW the ability of the students, he/she only has a fairly good idea of their abilities, there are students who are good at classworks homeworks and even participate good in class BUT aren't good in high pressure situations such as exams it seems this difference still eludes you, let me give you further explanation a teacher can think student X would fail the exam and student X ended up passing and vice versa BUT for omniscience there's NO WAY his creation that he KNOWS would fail a test to suddenly pass it! that means he's not omniscient in the first place give it another go, your student teacher analogy excludes omniscience which is the most important part of this discussion 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:People in real life I discuss with almost always use this analogy and I keep explaining its like a lot of people don't understand the meanings of the words omnipotence, omnipresence, and omniscience. Nicely put man |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by NigerianScholar: 10:18pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:okay. Forget the teacher student scenario. U cant get what i am trying to point out Like i said. The test wasnt for God. Its for his creation. God is omniscient but we re not its just to make us know we cam be faulted And even though God knew we could fail. He still gave us the power of choice. He didnt create mindless zombies. I think i told u this before |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by hopefulLandlord: 10:40pm On Jun 30, 2017 |
NigerianScholar: and it still doesn't explain anything, let's analyse the first 2 sentences of your last paragraph "even though God knew we could fail." this is absolutely meaningless! you're now excluding "omniscience" from your god in order to make sense, what do you mean by "Could"? by adding that word instead of "Would" you've excluded the omniscient property, you've suddenly put your god in a situation in which it needs to make predictions about his creation and predictions about himself rather than have true certainty "He still gave us the power of choice." what's that "power of choice"? makes no sense when he already KNOWS what such a creature would chose? you've entangled yourself into the paradox of omniscience, the paradox I was trying so hard to make you see from the get go 3 Likes |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by hopefulLandlord: 4:17am On Aug 30, 2017 |
A man was walking along a riverbed smoking a joint when he came across a revivalist meeting and a preacher baptizing. The preacher looked at him and asked "Son are you ready to find jesus?'' The stoned gentleman said "sure" so the preacher dunks him underwater ,pulls him up and asks "Son did you find jesus? and the stoner replied "no" The preacher looked at him and dunked him again this time a bit longer when he pulled him up he asked the same question. "Son did you find jesus"? the stoner said "no" Frustrated the preacher dunked him again this time he held him down for a good minute, He pulls him up and again asked Son did you find jesus? The stoner coughing up water looks at the preacher and asks "Are you sure this is where he fell in?" 5 Likes |
Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by hopefulLandlord: 7:55am On Sep 10, 2017 |
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Re: The Best Atheist Quotes On Nairaland by CAPSLOCKED: 9:58pm On Jul 04, 2020 |
God is not malevolent my brother but a God of mercy. We all deserve to die because of our sin but He still show us mercy. IF WE ALL DESERVE TO DIE, WHY ARE WE STILL LIVING? DUNDEES LEFT RIGHT CENTER. 2 Likes |
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