hopefulLandlord:


how does an omniscient being "test" his creation?

NigerianScholar:


Why does a parent test his children
Why does a teacher test his children

hopefulLandlord:


because they're NOT omniscient! easy peasy

now answer my own question

NigerianScholar:

They are not omniscient...agreed. but they should know everything about the person they are testing...their abilities e.t.c. the test is never for the teacher.....its for the student

Can a teacher give grades without testing even though the teacher has an idea of what the student will get?

If God made us not perfectly pure. Many people would have been like. He should have given us the chance. We re not stupid we wouldnt have eaten the forbidden fruit etv

hopefulLandlord:


NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT!! a teacher can't "know everything" about the person they're testing, that's why we have tests in the first place!!!

This is a blatant case of Fallacy of False Equivalence

teacher may "have an idea", agreed BUT he doesn't KNOW he only has an idea, whereas an Omniscient being KNOWS for sure and not "idea"

BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

this is non sequitur and ignoratio elenchi

now have a go at the question again cuz all your attempts so far have been totally off the mark

Why should an omniscient being test his creation?

you brought teachers-student scenario into the discussion and I've shown that its a totally different ball game from an omniscient-creation scenario cuz omniscience is not there in the former but there in the latter

now please give it a much better shot

NigerianScholar:


The teacher will know the ability of the student. But the test is not for the teacher...it is for the student. God is omniscient but we re not. And the teacher student scenario can be used as an xample

hopefulLandlord:


you're still committing fallacy of false equivalence

teacher doesn't KNOW the ability of the students, he/she only has a fairly good idea of their abilities, there are students who are good at classworks homeworks and even participate good in class BUT aren't good in high pressure situations such as exams

it seems this difference still eludes you, let me give you further explanation

a teacher can think student X would fail the exam and student X ended up passing and vice versa BUT for omniscience there's NO WAY his creation that he KNOWS would fail a test to suddenly pass it! that means he's not omniscient in the first place

give it another go, your student teacher analogy excludes omniscience which is the most important part of this discussion

hopefulLandlord:


you're still committing fallacy of false equivalence

teacher doesn't KNOW the ability of the students, he/she only has a fairly good idea of their abilities, there are students who are good at classworks homeworks and even participate good in class BUT aren't good in high pressure situations such as exams

it seems this difference still eludes you, let me give you further explanation

a teacher can think student X would fail the exam and student X ended up passing and vice versa BUT for omniscience there's NO WAY his creation that he KNOWS would fail a test to suddenly pass it! that means he's not omniscient in the first place

give it another go, your student teacher analogy excludes omniscience which is the most important part of this discussion

NigerianScholar:
okay. Forget the teacher student scenario. U cant get what i am trying to point out

Like i said. The test wasnt for God. Its for his creation. God is omniscient but we re not its just to make us know we cam be faulted


And even though God knew we could fail. He still gave us the power of choice. He didnt create mindless zombies. I think i told u this before

obisco4u:
When will Nigerians learn, especially women. Sowing seeds and prayers cannot solve problems, because obviously, you're tabling you problems before an imaginary being. Problems are solved by following principles. Eg
If you want a promotion, get a certification and bring new ideas to your company and you'll get it. I don't see how giving out your SUV to frauds help you. Instead Donate it to charity that have connections with your career goals.
Nawa oo every small thing chineke, oluwa, allah. And you still believe they created the problem as a form of test for your imaginary faith. Will you bribe your examiner with tithes, offerings and seeds?

God is not malevolent my brother but a God of mercy. We all deserve to die because of our sin but He still show us mercy.