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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Nobody: 10:02pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Olu317: Egbon, I am sure you're aware Yoruba culture the patrilineal takes precedence in consideration of one's roots. What people want to know is your ile baba. Let me also add that such offsprings can not or will find it very difficult to ascend the throne and the prince/ss status will not hold much weight. |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by MrMaestro: 10:02pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
I noticed talks about immigration and current non yoruba residents. I am of the opinion that any immigrant can be naturalized. The issue of Nigeria is a big one, and we have to deal with the reality of there being a large number of non yoruba residents that needs to be addressed at the outset. In the initial stage, we must first adopt an immigration policy similar to the Japanese immigration policy. Only investors and those of skilled and technical fields will be allowed. Very strict, and a very low percentage of immigrants. Essentially, expats primarily will be the bulk of foreign residents. Then there will be deportations of those who are not yoruba. Probably starting from criminals, unemployed, and those offering nothing to our society. This will be unfortunate, but it will have to happen. No sane country that strives to be successful and better will avoid doing the necessary to ensure a better future. Finally, with a limited number of non yoruba residents, and with a heightened focus on cultural revolution, the nation will have converted most if not all of those who are not yoruba to the Yoruba culture, and future generations of these individuals will essentially be Yorubas. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by raumdeuter: 10:03pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
omohayek: My chairman, My own view is even more extreme, I will propose everyone with Ibo blood get out first and those interested in living here start their immigration paperwork with vetting from Yoruba immigration, stating what they want to come here to do. If Business they must have upward of 20M Naira in a Yorubaland bank account, to work the company hiring them must prove there are no Yoruba or Edo Ebira, Itsekiri Nupe, Igala etc people groups friendly to Yorubas with such skills similar to H1B visas. And no matter how many years you live or how many kids you have, even if you born your intestines your citizenship isnt guaranteed (Like in UK) If for vacation you have a valid 6 month renewable visa 10 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 10:04pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter:sealed. |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by raumdeuter: 10:12pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Obaluf0n: Thanks my chairman. Yorubaland made many mistakes from the 40s in dealing with our neighbours and some of these mistakes affect us till today, We shouldnt repeat it again, All these sophisticated Bullshit should go sit somewhere, The America and Britain we are trying to be like have even left political correctness and are addressing issues that affect their nation after seeing the adverse effect of plurality and mixing strange cultures What we see as normal is strange to others e.g respect to elders, Some people believe who should be accorded respect should be by how much you have in your account. We Yorubas believe in dignity of labor, No trade is bad, except Laziness and Stealing which encompass all corrupt act (Ole and Ole lo bomo je) others believe all business na business. Kaka kin jale, ma kuku deru. Rather tha steal I will prefer to be a slave is a popular Yoruba saying, Some other groups dont believe this 11 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AshiwajuFoward: 10:12pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
MrMaestro: That is it! That's the way it should be in my opinion as well (though I think the deportation part must not be a blanket one, those that are not troublemakers, I mean the one that don't call our land 'nomansland', can be allowed to remain while regularizing their immigration status). If I decide to go and live in China or Germany today, o ti sure ju wipe I go know at the back of my mind say I must learn their language and culture, so as to fit properly into their society. If I choose to naturalize or obtain their citizenship, I'll definitely go through some kinda test or exam to PROVE to them that I've assimilated enough into their society and will be a loyal citizen of their country. That's the way it should be. 6 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 10:14pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Obaluf0n:ofcourse it is impossible because patrilineal is the head within Yoruba enclave. And that wasn't the reason for the questions but the manner at which our brother had seen every person from the “Eastern side," to compulsorily seek a visa before entry to Yoruba land. This was the point I was trying to raise. Do you even know there was a time when “her" wasn't been used for Nigeria. If you recall the Nigeria's anthem's stanza, You will understand. Shouldn't we begin to think in this direction,since it is a patrilineal arrangement? ... 1 Like |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by AshiwajuFoward: 10:21pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Bro, you're funny as hell. Your post right here got me in stitches. 5 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 10:23pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
@ Intrepid01, I still see the bitterness in the write up of some of our brothers on here. You raised a valuable perspective, which needed be placed in consideration. And it is about equity, fairness and assimilation of people willing to naturalized. This will bring in different ideology although must be positive which must add value to our polity. |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by raumdeuter: 10:25pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
AshiwajuFoward: There are cultures in the world who respect diplomacy, there are cultures who only respect brute force, What they cant try in their land, they throw it to us and they know we will try to act sophisticated and shitt Abia sacked people from other states no one complained, Fashola shipped like 20 people everyone went up in arms cursing Yoruba people. Priests from Imo rejected priests from Anambra yet they feel they should be given rights in Yorubaland. Why do you think they dont step to Hausas but they see Yorubas as their toothpicks 10 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by shukuokukobambi: 10:25pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: You have my support for minister of homeland security. Ko si omo na 7 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by shukuokukobambi: 10:30pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Hmmmmm......very deep and at the heart of our omoluabi creed. Kai!! Ati ko eran mero tipe tipe 6 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 10:31pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Mon Dieu, c'est grave... These people are worth been monitored on Yoruba soil so as to continue to give reorientation to them for conformity. 1 Like |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by laudate: 10:37pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Olu317:You have a point. Folks like us would become 'visitors' or 'strangers', if that policy of non-Yorubas in the SW region is enforced, despite our length of stay and years of residence in places like Lagos. 3 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by laudate: 10:38pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
shukuokukobambi:
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Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 10:40pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Efewestern:Sorry for the late response, it was due to anti spamming stuff. Precisely to your perspective as it seems, on itsekiri people,the reality is that it was Nigeria created that it has taken away such opinion and people's identity from the new generation. Let me inform you that itsekiri fought on behalf of ILE IFE /Ekiti parapo during kiriji war. BINI didn't because it was not with any might. So, I understand your point but in truth they are largely Yoruba descendants. And if you say, they identify with Ondo axis, what grouping are the people in Ondo axis, especially the mentioned clans of yours? Even Arugbo/apoi in Ondo state speak Yoruboid language but claims Ijo (Izon/Ijawa). There is more that meet the eyes. |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by shukuokukobambi: 10:44pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Olu317: The reasonable conclusion is that: they will decide what they want when the time comes. 5 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by HughJazz(m): 10:47pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter:you get sense well well 3 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by FFKfuckedBIANCA: 10:48pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Iba Olorun. Iba Iya Mi. Iba Onile. Iba Alejo. I came very late to the party, am I welcome? 4 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by laudate: 10:49pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Why only Edo Ebira, Itsekiri? What about Nupe or Igala? 3 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 10:49pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
laudate:of course not once you can do the needful (get a Yoruba wife). On a serious note, I don't share outrightly banning as it seems because once you have what it takes to bring value to our nation ,why not? I am a hardened conservative but give wisdom to rule my decision. So ,once you are willing to support our dream and aspirations, you will be allowed to naturalized as It fit in to my own “opinion". 5 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by raumdeuter: 10:52pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
laudate: Yeah those are also included. I mean etc.Nupe and Igala are close to Yorubas ancestrally and we have had dealings for several centuryies before Oyinbos came here without any problem Even Sangos mother was a Nupe woman. The groups that share a border with Yorubas like Igala, Emira, Nupe Edo etc will be given a priority 7 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 10:53pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
shukuokukobambi:I agree to your opinion. |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by laudate: 10:55pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Noted, thanks. 2 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by raumdeuter: 10:56pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
laudate: We will only be friendly to those friendly to us. 2 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by FFKfuckedBIANCA: 10:59pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Olu317:If the Itsekiri's say that they are not Yoruba's, then they are not Yoruba. Let us respect thier decision Please I beg you remove Arogbo Ijaw from your equation. Apologies to Omoyele Sowere and the few noble Arogbo Ijaw guys, but majority of them are Militants. I am even of the opinion that Ese-Odo LG of Ondo be carved to Delta State. Ajakpa, Mile II Zion, Bolowo, Akotogbo, Egede-Igbene, Zion Church etc are all den of Miitants. Those criminals will give us trouble if we include in our prospective Yoruba Country. 8 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by SuperS1Panther: 11:02pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
raumdeuter: DK, how u dey? Longest time. Please where is Desola, IlekeHD, Katsumoto, Shymexxand the other baddest crew? |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by shukuokukobambi: 11:02pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Jetleeee: Onijogbon, Sho tun ti de? 4 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by MrMaestro: 11:04pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
AshiwajuFoward: Agreed, but honestly, there will have to be tough decisions that need to be made. Including deporting most (maybe not all) of those that are not yoruba, even if they're perfectly law abiding. This is a decision that needs to be made in the beginning. I don't think you understand the amount of non yoruba residents in the southwest. We don't want another Nigeria situation. Our forefathers failed to steer us away from this path in Nigeria, knowing this fact, we must do what is necessary to ensure without a shadow of a doubt that the nation remains an unquestionably yoruba nation for decades to come. To do this we must make these tough choices to prevent future generations from having to deal with more difficult situations in a multi ethnic society, similar to what we're dealing with now. 5 Likes |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Olu317(m): 11:07pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
FFKfuckedBIANCA:Are you saying because, some Arugbo descendants are a notorious, we should ignore them? The militancy you so mentioned isn't different from some street gangster like the ones troubling Ikorodu. We can contain every one within Yoruba enclave, Who isn't law abiding. And on the Itsekiri case, I don't believe in forceful subjugation. And if they seem good with their Niger delta, then no problem. I am only stating the evidence on ground. 1 Like |
Re: Draft Of The Oodua Region Yoruba Constitution by Jetleeee: 11:09pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
shukuokukobambi: 1 Like 1 Share |
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