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Re: Whats Your View? by eyinjuege: 8:22am On Jul 03, 2017
NaeChris:
First and foremost, Adam was not arround when devil came, Eve could not take responsibility just for few minutes, and that almost cost us eternal life. Secondly, no one is saying men should not assist in domestic shores or thereabout, i will do that myself when i am married, that a man does not involve himself with domestications does not mean he is less than a good husband.
Anyways, Adam was on duty, and was no where to be found. That's incriminating on it's own, it all happened under his watch.
You might be a good husband, but a terrible father and vice versa. It's not compulsory for that to be mutually inclusive.
You see some men shouting that their grown up children love their mothers more. That's the general belief, but it's all cause and effect. I'm categorically telling you now that it's not enough as a father to just provide for the needs of your children. Men need to do more, and get more involved in family life. Women hit that realisation since, and have being co-providers or even sole-providers in their homes especially these days.
Anyways, we've digressed from the main topic.
My stands on that is that it's everyone's (male and female) responsibility to safeguard/ protect the children and domestic helps. It's not just a responsibility for the women.
Also, child abuse/ domestic abuse on helps is perpetrated by both male and female. It shouldn't be condoned by either. Report any spouse doing so to the police or appropriate agencies, or call the parents of the children to come and pick their children.
Re: Whats Your View? by ImaIma1(f): 12:18pm On Jul 03, 2017
jhudit:
Sad one...
Now we understand your grievance.

Op, you can help us champion the case.
Someone has to bell the cat.
The women that beat their helps are wicked...
The men that watch their wives batter their helps,
What do we call such men?
It is based on the character of the woman involved. You can't use one to judge all.
I grew up in a home where we had helps and cousins staying with us. I do not remember my mum beating or maltreating them. Even after they moved on, they came visiting my mum for one thing or the other. Even with all the helps, we the children were still doing housework.

And my mum didn't pitch herself against us when it came to our dad. We understood that they were a team and we couldn't come between them. I don't really understand a mum being jealous of her kids. It's absurd.

And when it came to beating,my dad was the champion with his koboko. My mum used a sewing tape rule but she preferred to talk or punish.

So families really differ.
Re: Whats Your View? by NaeChris(op): 6:44pm On Jul 03, 2017
eyinjuege:
Anyways, Adam was on duty, and was no where to be found. That's incriminating on it's own, it all happened under his watch.
You might be a good husband, but a terrible father and vice versa. It's not compulsory for that to be mutually inclusive.
You see some men shouting that their grown up children love their mothers more. That's the general belief, but it's all cause and effect. I'm categorically telling you now that it's not enough as a father to just provide for the needs of your children. Men need to do more, and get more involved in family life. Women hit that realisation since, and have being co-providers or even sole-providers in their homes especially these days.
Anyways, we've digressed from the main topic.
My stands on that is that it's everyone's (male and female) responsibility to safeguard/ protect the children and domestic helps. It's not just a responsibility for the women.
Also, child abuse/ domestic abuse on helps is perpetrated by both male and female. It shouldn't be condoned by either. Report any spouse doing so to the police or appropriate agencies, or call the parents of the children to come and pick their children.
It was not under his watch.t
Re: Whats Your View? by eyinjuege: 7:31pm On Jul 03, 2017
NaeChris:
It was not under his watch.t
You're still not accepting responsibility on behalf of Adam. It was under his watch, he was the one in charge and he failed at it. Otherwise, unless you agree Eve was the one God put in charge of the garden or at the very least they both had equal leadership roles in the garden/ the home.
You cannot have the sweet part of being the head alone, and then refuse to accept the bitter part/ other responsibilities that come with it.
God put Adam in charge of the garden/home. He failed to keep the home/ garden.
I see a repetition of Adam's mistakes and even attitude afterwards in a lot of men generally today. Always failing to accept responsibility, always blaming others and their women for their inadequacies and failure to put a working system in place. Maybe it's ingrained since creation? Or they just lack understanding.
Re: Whats Your View? by joyAA(f): 9:52pm On Jul 03, 2017
RadicallyBlunt:
Women are naturally selfish and self-centered. That's why they compete with their children over demand for care. Believe me some even get jealous of how their husbands gets to d heart of the child than she does. If they do any little thing, they'll demand for worship.

I happen to be a child of such women. I love my mother but I can't pray for her type as wife. She has never experienced what it means to submit to a man all her life of being a single mother. Now me being the first man to make her realize how a man shd be treated is just a child to her. Why would she bliv anything i say. She battered me while growing up under her...what I would term maternal abuse. She was demanding gifts from me at 100L when I didn't even have enough to feed let alone hand outs.

I had to starve myself and depend on a neighbour for food just to save to buy her Ankara and shoes..Shes a well-paid senior civil servant o. I still don't think a woman can ever love selflessly.
Bro,
shocked shocked what are you doing saying our family wahala on nl?

Lol you've actually just described my mom, tho she remarried

swear down, this is just her life

And haven lived with at least one other family, I say YES its true, most women are selfish, some only care about the children they labored for, all others children are thrash.
Oyo is ur case if you jam one of those 'only my pikin' women and ur own mom na 'only me' cry

If they are REAL Christians, they will change, but most are just follow follow Christian

Justice must be served for those children its unfair, just unfair
Re: Whats Your View? by NaeChris(op): 11:14pm On Jul 03, 2017
eyinjuege:
You're still not accepting responsibility on behalf of Adam. It was under his watch, he was the one in charge and he failed at it. Otherwise, unless you agree Eve was the one God put in charge of the garden or at the very least they both had equal leadership roles in the garden/ the home.
You cannot have the sweet part of being the head alone, and then refuse to accept the bitter part/ other responsibilities that come with it.
God put Adam in charge of the garden/home. He failed to keep the home/ garden.
I see a repetition of Adam's mistakes and even attitude afterwards in a lot of men generally today. Always failing to accept responsibility, always blaming others and their women for their inadequacies and failure to put a working system in place. Maybe it's ingrained since creation? Or they just lack understanding.
Lol. Adam left the house for Eve to take care of, just for few minutes, within a short while, Eve turned the garden upside down. Yes Adam was in charge, but his assiatant was not wise enough. She fell so cheap to the lies of the serpent. Adam and men being who they are, if he had rejected the fruit, Eve will say he is keeping ''another woman'' outside even if there was none.
Re: Whats Your View? by Nobody: 4:59am On Jul 04, 2017
joyAA:
Bro,
shocked shocked what are you doing saying our family wahala on nl?

Lol you've actually just described my mom, tho she remarried

swear down, this is just her life

And haven lived with at least one other family, I say YES its true, most women are selfish, some only care about the children they labored for, all others children are thrash.
Oyo is ur case if you jam one of those 'only my pikin' women and ur own mom na 'only me' cry

If they are REAL Christians, they will change, but most are just follow follow Christian

Justice must be served for those children its unfair, just unfair
God bless you dear. I didn't know I have a colleague who understands, a female for that matter. I wish all women can be open like you. the world would be a much easier place to live.
Re: Whats Your View? by Nobody: 8:07am On Jul 04, 2017
Kids are abused everyday, physically, sexually and emotionally. They are all abuse and wrong. Your opening post already gives the notion that you are not concerned about the kids, neither are you trying to create awareness ;you're only spoiling for a fight.

I have seen several abuse carried out by men on Nairaland, the one that used nail on a child's skull, the father that destroyed his daughter's back with wire for watching TV in a neighbour's house, another tied his son for days over theft _ and the numerous cases of sexual abuse. If you say you haven't seen them, you are obviously being selective in what you see.

Let's assume women are the only ones that abuse, the men that watch this abuse go on are accomplices.

So, both gender are guilty of abusing kids.
It's advisable you/we condemn the crime and quit the blame game.
Re: Whats Your View? by BellaElla(f):
eyinjuege:
You're still not accepting responsibility on behalf of Adam. It was under his watch, he was the one in charge and he failed at it. Otherwise, unless you agree Eve was the one God put in charge of the garden or at the very least they both had equal leadership roles in the garden/ the home.
You cannot have the sweet part of being the head alone, and then refuse to accept the bitter part/ other responsibilities that come with it.
God put Adam in charge of the garden/home. He failed to keep the home/ garden.
I see a repetition of Adam's mistakes and even attitude afterwards in a lot of men generally today. Always failing to accept responsibility, always blaming others and their women for their inadequacies and failure to put a working system in place. Maybe it's ingrained since creation? Or they just lack understanding.
Re: Whats Your View? by NaeChris(op): 3:38pm On Jul 04, 2017
I see. But let the ladies use their vocal reporting voice to kick against child battering
Re: Whats Your View? by NaeChris(op): 3:45pm On Jul 04, 2017
We need to show concern
Re: Whats Your View? by NaeChris(op): 3:49pm On Jul 04, 2017
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