Emexnairaland:
Finally I was refused entry clearance by ECO saying that I am not a genuine student under sub paragraph K of 245ZV. Reasons for the refusal are that, taking into consideration my gap studies (my last study date 2012) and vague answers during my interview. I was giving chance for admin review.
But honestly I strongly believe that the ECO decision was unjust because I submitted evidence of my employment reference letter where I have worked and CV that showed my activities since my last date of study. I also explained it to her during the interview
On the note of vague answer giving in my interview,Entry Clearance Assistant gave me an impromptu call for a second interview even while I was in an unfavorable environment I didn't actually know what the ECO wanted to hear from me but I am very sure I spoke clear and fast that she asked me to slow my pace while speaking so that she could type my statements. She further mentioned that the AC and noisy background of hers was producing echo. At the end of the interview she acted to have been satisfied with my answers. But at the end I was refused.

School was disappointed to see that as an excuse to refuse me but also classfied it under refusal because of credibility, therefore will not give me a second CAS unless I choose to go for admin review and is successful and that they won't get involve in the admin review.
This is really a sad feeling and frustrating
I was given a chance for admin review in my refusal letter, but the worry now is that admin review takes time to be processed, I might even miss out September intake If I choose to go for the review due to the delay in AR.
I HAVE ALREADY PUT UP A GOOD WRITE UP AGAINST ECO DECISION TO REFUSE ME ENTRY.

Please Justwise, Ekpotek, other gurus in this forum I need your urgent advice.
I feel very sad about it for it has really retarded my career plan.

Question1:


This is strange and I feel for you bro!
But I thought you had planned on withdrawing your application earlier.

BTW The stated reasons for the Refusal are just too flimsy and ingenuine as the ECO knew that your last date of enrolment has passed.

As much as i can remember the AR are sometimes less or greater than 21 days before you get the result. However,I'll advice you to present a fresh application for September. Let your UNi know the circumstances surrounding the refusal that it all boils down to the passed enrollment date and that you would like them to issue you a new CAS. And apply early. And Pray. I'll also put you in my prayer.
Take heart. And rise again.

Emexnairaland:
Finally I was refused entry clearance by ECO saying that I am not a genuine student under sub paragraph K of 245ZV. Reasons for the refusal are that, taking into consideration my gap studies (my last study date 2012) and vague answers during my interview. I was giving chance for admin review.
But honestly I strongly believe that the ECO decision was unjust because I submitted evidence of my employment reference letter where I have worked and CV that showed my activities since my last date of study. I also explained it to her during the interview
On the note of vague answer giving in my interview,Entry Clearance Assistant gave me an impromptu call for a second interview even while I was in an unfavorable environment I didn't actually know what the ECO wanted to hear from me but I am very sure I spoke clear and fast that she asked me to slow my pace while speaking so that she could type my statements. She further mentioned that the AC and noisy background of hers was producing echo. At the end of the interview she acted to have been satisfied with my answers. But at the end I was refused.

School was disappointed to see that as an excuse to refuse me but also classfied it under refusal because of credibility, therefore will not give me a second CAS unless I choose to go for admin review and is successful and that they won't get involve in the admin review.
This is really a sad feeling and frustrating
I was given a chance for admin review in my refusal letter, but the worry now is that admin review takes time to be processed, I might even miss out September intake If I choose to go for the review due to the delay in AR.
I HAVE ALREADY PUT UP A GOOD WRITE UP AGAINST ECO DECISION TO REFUSE ME ENTRY.

Please Justwise, Ekpotek, other gurus in this forum I need your urgent advice.
I feel very sad about it for it has really retarded my career plan.

Mzstephh:
Hello sorry about that, that is totally unfair not even considering any factor ( visa fee, uni start date etc). I just checked online and it says the administrative review takes 28 calendar working days from the day you apply. Please check this link properly from page 85
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/623341/T4_Migrant_Guidance_29_June_2017.pdf
I also read online that you cannot add any further supporting document too, so I am not sure if you can add a letter. Apply ASAP and if possible fast and pray on this because it certainly doesn't make sense why they would just give flimsy excuses for no reason.
Good luck bro,

Question1:


Exactly bro. Re-application is the best at this delicate time.
Just be sober with the School because you have come this far with them. They should be willing to issue a new CAS.

And about your school let them know the issue was with the the DATE of enrollment. and no harm from your part of the application. They should just issue a new CAS jare

Vicrown:
Hello house, I recently got a scholarship at the London school of economics and political science worth £34,512 while the tuition fee is £20,122 remaining £14,400 for living allowance. However my CAS reflects that I have £0 for accommodation and I intend to pay rent from my allowance. And I can only have access to the fund after I have registered. Should I mention on the visa application form that I will be staying with a friend until I get my allowance? Secondly, how much is the IHS? Can I pay with verve or MasterCard? Thanks.

Mzstephh:
lol oga I'm a lady o..

Emexnairaland:
Finally I was refused entry clearance by ECO saying that I am not a genuine student under sub paragraph K of 245ZV. Reasons for the refusal are that, taking into consideration my gap studies (my last study date 2012) and vague answers during my interview. I was giving chance for admin review.
But honestly I strongly believe that the ECO decision was unjust because I submitted evidence of my employment reference letter where I have worked and CV that showed my activities since my last date of study. I also explained it to her during the interview
On the note of vague answer giving in my interview,Entry Clearance Assistant gave me an impromptu call for a second interview even while I was in an unfavorable environment I didn't actually know what the ECO wanted to hear from me but I am very sure I spoke clear and fast that she asked me to slow my pace while speaking so that she could type my statements. She further mentioned that the AC and noisy background of hers was producing echo. At the end of the interview she acted to have been satisfied with my answers. But at the end I was refused.

School was disappointed to see that as an excuse to refuse me but also classfied it under refusal because of credibility, therefore will not give me a second CAS unless I choose to go for admin review and is successful and that they won't get involve in the admin review.
This is really a sad feeling and frustrating
I was given a chance for admin review in my refusal letter, but the worry now is that admin review takes time to be processed, I might even miss out September intake If I choose to go for the review due to the delay in AR.
I HAVE ALREADY PUT UP A GOOD WRITE UP AGAINST ECO DECISION TO REFUSE ME ENTRY.

Please Justwise, Ekpotek, other gurus in this forum I need your urgent advice.
I feel very sad about it for it has really retarded my career plan.

mimilyrics:
Hi Justwise and everyone. I'd be renting accommodation close to school but I've been looking at properties with tenancy should start from Sept 1. I'll be staying with a friend from late August when I arrive till Sept 1st when tenancy ought to start but further search, payment and paperwork will be done on my arrival. Is it okay to input my friend's address(my temporary address for about 1-2 weeks) or the school address? Thank you.

mimilyrics:
Hi Justwise and everyone. I'd be renting accommodation close to school but I've been looking at properties with tenancy should start from Sept 1. I'll be staying with a friend from late August when I arrive till Sept 1st when tenancy ought to start but further search, payment and paperwork will be done on my arrival. Is it okay to input my friend's address(my temporary address for about 1-2 weeks) or the school address? Thank you.

Emexnairaland:
Finally I was refused entry clearance by ECO saying that I am not a genuine student under sub paragraph K of 245ZV. Reasons for the refusal are that, taking into consideration my gap studies (my last study date 2012) and vague answers during my interview. I was giving chance for admin review.
But honestly I strongly believe that the ECO decision was unjust because I submitted evidence of my employment reference letter where I have worked and CV that showed my activities since my last date of study. I also explained it to her during the interview
On the note of vague answer giving in my interview,Entry Clearance Assistant gave me an impromptu call for a second interview even while I was in an unfavorable environment I didn't actually know what the ECO wanted to hear from me but I am very sure I spoke clear and fast that she asked me to slow my pace while speaking so that she could type my statements. She further mentioned that the AC and noisy background of hers was producing echo. At the end of the interview she acted to have been satisfied with my answers. But at the end I was refused.

School was disappointed to see that as an excuse to refuse me but also classfied it under refusal because of credibility, therefore will not give me a second CAS unless I choose to go for admin review and is successful and that they won't get involve in the admin review.
This is really a sad feeling and frustrating
I was given a chance for admin review in my refusal letter, but the worry now is that admin review takes time to be processed, I might even miss out September intake If I choose to go for the review due to the delay in AR.
I HAVE ALREADY PUT UP A GOOD WRITE UP AGAINST ECO DECISION TO REFUSE ME ENTRY.

Please Justwise, Ekpotek, other gurus in this forum I need your urgent advice.
I feel very sad about it for it has really retarded my career plan.

MrsDaniels:
@Justwise please how much is tier 4 dependant visa fee if applying from Nigeria. pls i need urgent answer.

mimilyrics:
Hi Justwise and everyone. I'd be renting accommodation close to school but I've been looking at properties with tenancy should start from Sept 1. I'll be staying with a friend from late August when I arrive till Sept 1st when tenancy ought to start but further search, payment and paperwork will be done on my arrival. Is it okay to input my friend's address(my temporary address for about 1-2 weeks) or the school address? Thank you.

MrsDaniels:
my dear input ur sch address. Thats the best option for you. Cheers mate!

Question1:


Your school address is safer.

Please when are you resuming, and have you gotten your visa?

justwise:
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Use your school international centre as your address fro now

mimilyrics:
Okay. Thank you. Sept 16. I'm submitting my application this week. Had to get an updated letter from my sponsor.

justwise:


Check the British embassy website or Homeoffice immigration website

justwise:


If the main reason for the refusal is the gap as you pointed out then go for the AR but don't be in a hurry to submit it without going over it again and again. You need focus on things you were doing during that period of gap, that is very important.

If you submit that before the ending of this month you still have a great deal of time to meet up Sept school opening.

You don't need any help from your school for AR and you don't need to add any other document just that letter of explanation/argument against ECO's decision.

Take each refusal point and address it in a paragraph

xpizzy:
So sorry about your refusal after the long wait. You can post your refusal notes so that you can be advised on how to respond to all the points raised. Your AR needs to have strong defense points to increase your success chance. Good luck bro

Vicrown:
Hello house, I recently got a scholarship at the London school of economics and political science worth £34,512 while the tuition fee is £20,122 remaining £14,400 for living allowance. However my CAS reflects that I have £0 for accommodation and I intend to pay rent from my allowance. And I can only have access to the fund after I have registered. Should I mention on the visa application form that I will be staying with a friend until I get my allowance? Secondly, how much is the IHS? Can I pay with verve or MasterCard? Thanks.

Emexnairaland:
I Just posted the refusal letter, thanks

xpizzy:
My thoughts on this issue are highlighted below but let me issue a disclaimer that I am not a subject matter expert.
To start with, the reason for your refusal can be likened to the proverbial saying of giving a dog a bad name just so we can kill it. The term "genuine" as used by the UKBA is more vague than the "vague answers" they claimed against you.

Having said that, I want to implore you to consider the options available to you before taking any decision. I discuss this options below.

Option 1

This option is going through the AR process and giving very strong defense points. However, the ECM rarely overturns decisions that were refused based on "genuine student". If the outcome of your AR is negative, don't despair there is a last resort that a lot of students don't explore. It is called a Judicial Review and you would need the services of a UK based solicitor.

Your refusal would most likely be upturned because of the famous case of Adnan Mushtaq in 2015 see https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/42073-pakistani-student-wins-right-to-enter-uk-for-studies

An ECO had refused Mushtaq on the basis of not being a genuine student but after a Judicial Review, the judge upturned the decision and awarded costs against the home office.

Another benefit of the JR is that your solicitor would first send the Home office a pre action notice, giving them 14 days to change their decision or face legal action.

Most times the decision would be reversed as the treasury solicitor who represents the home office would review the case and deem it sensible to avoid litigation.

If however the Home office decides to go to trial, the JR could be a lengthy and costly (between 500-2000£) process but you'd surely prevail.

Option 2

Shop for another school if Ulster won't issue you a fresh CAS and ensure you address the issue by preparing better for the interview.

My 2 cents