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Humanistme:
I want to know na a simple yes or no will do.

ok,
Just wait, I am coming

KingEbukasBlog:
Deism and panentheism are types of theism . Deism is under theism. You do enjoy making a fool of yourself, don't you ?

I think you're the one making a fool of yourself, bruh. Deism and panentheism can be CONTRASTED with your PARTICULAR type of theism, so my point still remains.

felixomor:
ok, Just wait, I am coming

simple question, he can't answer

TLuzzie:
I think you're the one making a fool of yourself, bruh. Deism and panentheism can be CONTRASTED with your PARTICULAR type of theism, so my point still remains.

The guy is just looking for an escape

JackBizzle:
The guy is just looking for an escape

Lol. Seriously.

Humanistme:


simple question, he can't answer

Simple instruction,
You can't follow

ScepticalPyrrho:
Does the OT talk about galaxies and galaxy-clusters?
Does the Bible refer to the sun as stars?

Yahweh needs to do an updated version...

Seriously, you need to stop this shameful display. I don't find it interesting to mock the Bible or Christians, you always manage to drag me into this. That's why I try to ignore you and Ebuka.

After all our conversations on this forum you still want to drag in an ancient manuscript as if it would make your belief authentic.

Have a good day.

What manner of silly talk is this? Does the Old Testament talk about galaxies or galaxy clusters or call the sun A Star? How stupid can a comment be?

A creator God does not have to offer names to his creation but could value functionality above a name. Functionality is all there is to anything. A name does not mean functionality. Names are wasted when functionality is lacking. Proof of a name is in its functionality and not vice versa.

God left the naming of his creation to man. He does not desire such identities to his creation when he isn't resident on this earth. Man on the other hand needs to tag identities to everything since he lives here.

Even when he called the first man ADAM it meant HUMANKIND. Simply a first sample of all who are to follow.

I remember talking about our limited earthly perception here and same is applicable in this scenario.

What WE CALL stars here or the Sun or galaxies may not be how a creator God views them or calls them. We CHOSE to give them such names but do the names prove their functionality or their functionality was there FIRST before a name was given to it.

JackBizzle:



This was direct and open warfare on ignorance and your ilk lost.

Let me list you and tour friends' failed arguments

1. Entropy applies to the universe.

2. Kalam cosmological argument proves God.

3. Creator is the same as God. (I had to point out to you that this to your Christian religion and not all religions)

4. Kalam cosmological argument (if true) does not work for a polytheist gods.

5. I'm summary. You guys still didn't give an argument for a religious God. Deism is your last refuge

The number 1 on your list shows you lack a modicum of intelligence. Despite my back and forth with lightandDarkness and he clearly understood it. You on the other hand are deeply obtuse.

TLuzzie:
I think you're the one making a fool of yourself, bruh. Deism and panentheism can be CONTRASTED with your PARTICULAR type of theism, so my point still remains.

Albert Einstein, it is called A-Theism not A- Ebuka's type of theism .

KingEbukasBlog:
Albert Einstein, it is called A-Theism not A- Ebuka's type of theism .

Lol. When I call myself an atheist, it's in relation to the Gods of monotheistic and polytheistic religions, not the origin of the universe, which MUST definitely exist if the universe had a beginning. So you might want to ignore semantics and letters and focus on the idea behind them.

felixomor:
Simple instruction, You can't follow

this describes you�

Humanistme:
this describes you�

I doubt, you just demonstrated that.

TLuzzie:
Lol. When I call myself an atheist, it's in relation to the Gods of monotheistic and polytheistic religions, not the origin of the universe, which MUST definitely exist IF the universe had a beginning. So you might want to ignore semantics and letters and focus on the idea behind them.

The caveat there is IF.

CatfishBilly:
The caveat there is IF.

Indeed! IF it had a beginning. If Physical Cosmology later reveals that the universe had no beginning, and has existed forever, then the idea of an eternal origin must be discarded, and "God" in ALL its forms will be [color=darkgreen]permanently dead[/color].

spacetacular:
What manner of silly talk is this? Does the Old Testament talk about galaxies or galaxy clusters or call the sun A Star? How stupid can a comment be?

A creator God does not have to offer names to his creation but could value functionality above a name. Functionality is all there is to anything. A name does not mean functionality. Names are wasted when functionality is lacking. Proof of a name is in its functionality and not vice versa.

God left the naming of his creation to man. He does not desire such identities to his creation when he isn't resident on this earth. Man on the other hand needs to tag identities to everything since he lives here.

Even when he called the first man ADAM it meant HUMANKIND. Simply a first sample of all who are to follow.

I remember talking about our limited earthly perception here and same is applicable in this scenario.

What WE CALL stars here or the Sun or galaxies may not be how a creator God views them or calls them. We CHOSE to give them such names but do the names prove their functionality or their functionality was there FIRST before a name was given to it.

Lol. Just when I thought I've seen the worst.

No vex. I totally understand.

This is a public forum, expect to see more comments like that.

I'ld prefer the creators perspective on this subject not yours. Thank you.

TLuzzie:
Indeed! IF it had a beginning. If Physical Cosmology later reveals that the universe had no beginning, and has existed forever, then the idea of an eternal origin must be discarded, and "God" in ALL its forms will be [color=darkgreen]permanently dead[/color].

I think the universe has no beginning. Mistake people make is assuming that the Big Bang was the beginning,
Beyond the Planck epoch, science have theorized that there was something, just that it has no predictive value.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Lol. Just when I thought I've seen the worst.

No vex. I totally understand.

This is a public forum, expect to see more comments like that.

I'ld prefer the creators perspective on this subject not yours. Thank you.

You are actually the worst of the lot. You prefer the creators perspective yet you offered yours and I cannot offer mine?

Of course it's a public forum which is why all manner of crock like you said is permitted here.

spacetacular:
You are actually the worst of the lot. You prefer the creators perspective yet you offered yours and I cannot offer mine?

Of course it's a public forum which is why all manner of crock like you said is permitted here.

I didn't mean the creator has to be here himself. The entire Bible was said to be inspired by Yahweh. But nothing in it shows an intellect beyond human perspective as at the time.

- Elijah rode on a chariot of fire, not chevrolet?
- Jesus ascended into heaven? that's primitive thinking.
- Jesus is expected to return riding on a horse...? Not a private jet?
- Okay, I'm trying to remember any part of the Bible that mentioned dinosaurs... none!


You guys need to re-establish communications with Yahweh to reveal something that doesn't expose the Bible as a myopic write-up from primitive men.

ScepticalPyrrho:
I didn't mean the creator has to be here himself. The entire Bible was said to be inspired by Yahweh. But nothing in it shows an intellect beyond human perspective as at the time.

- Elijah rode on a chariot of fire, not chevrolet?
- Jesus ascended into heaven? that's primitive thinking.
- Jesus is expected to return riding on a horse...? Not a private jet?
- Okay, I'm trying to remember any part of the Bible that mentioned dinosaurs... none!


You guys need to re-establish communications with Yahweh to reveal something that doesn't expose the Bible as a myopic write-up from primitive men.

lol

the hole-ly babble also said "all eyes would see Jesus" when he's coming back

*cough*Flat earth *cough*

ScepticalPyrrho:
I didn't mean the creator has to be here himself. The entire Bible was said to be inspired by Yahweh. But nothing in it shows an intellect beyond human perspective as at the time.

- Elijah rode on a chariot of fire, not chevrolet?
- Jesus ascended into heaven? that's primitive thinking.
- Jesus is expected to return riding on a horse...? Not a private jet?
- Okay, I'm trying to remember any part of the Bible that mentioned dinosaurs... none!


You guys need to re-establish communications with Yahweh to reveal something that doesn't expose the Bible as a myopic write-up from primitive men.

Let me break it down for you in extremely simple terms because your reasoning is at most extremely callow.

Human perspective as at that time did not in any way shape or form dictate that we stick to that perspective when we can easily draw a correlation to our present day with it.

If Elijah rode on a chariot of fire and not a flaming Chevy truck how does that even begin to eliminate the message being passed? It simply buttresses your first comment about the prevalent perspective back then (I guess your callow mind could not link this comment and your initial one)

Jesus ascended into heaven and you call it PRIMITIVE THINKING? Do you realise how many light years ahead of you that action was? This was a time when man NEVER HAD ANY IDEA OF FLIGHT OR EVEN THAT ANYTHING COULD GO BEYOND THE CLOUDS. Yet this was documented.

Today we have pretty much everyone attempting a new method of flying using Jet packs or even flying taxis.

I remember long before people even imagined methods of flight using rocket propelled boots we saw comic books with super hero characters or villains being drawn utilising these methods and today we are seeing advancements in those fields and actual prototypes being put forward.

Do you think the internet you know today would still be in existence in another 200 years? We could have gone into the level of telepathic communication via thought projections which to an extent are already being utilised in video game technology. You are actually the primitive mind here.

Jesus returning on a white horse showed strength and nobility in holiness. It was a symbolic gesture and if you take that as literally as you read it then you surely need help with how to think broad and deep.

Now you talk about dinosaurs even after I already told you that man named everything. SIR RICHARD OWEN INVENTED THE NAME DINOSAUR IN 1842 so why and how would it be in the bible which was centuries before that? ( Do you see why I said you are callow).

You need to go back to school so you can actually learn how to reason beyond your head because right now your thought process is stuck in a rut.

hopefulLandlord:
lol

the hole-ly babble also said "all eyes would see Jesus" when he's coming back

*cough*Flat earth *cough*

Did you even bother imagining the way technological advancement would contribute to this?

You assume this means everyone would look up and see him in the sky? Satellite technology has linked the whole world together and if the whole world can have access to CNN or BBC etc you assume that such an event would not be immediately televised worldwide so ALL CAN SEE HIM?

Did you actually think this had to do with the shape of the earth? Gosh how do you guys even think? Rationality is lost on you.

The historic 9/11 attacks was practically beamed worldwide at the same time and some piggy backed off each other and you call this ridiculous?

spacetacular:
Did you even bother imagining the way technological advancement would contribute to this?

You assume this means everyone would look up and see him in the sky? Satellite technology has linked the whole world together and if the whole world can have access to CNN or BBC etc you assume that such an event would not be immediately televised worldwide so ALL CAN SEE HIM?

Did you actually think this had to do with the shape of the earth? Gosh how do you guys even think? Rationality is lost on you.

The people that wrote the bible do not even know that people lived in China and North America yet you are here trying to tell lies to yourself just to rationalize their ancient mythology and superstitions. You get work oo. So now every body will see the dead Jewish hippe's return via TV? You guys are real jokes. Keep making things up.

spacetacular:
Did you even bother imagining the way technological advancement would contribute to this?

You assume this means everyone would look up and see him in the sky? Satellite technology has linked the whole world together and if the whole world can have access to CNN or BBC etc you assume that such an event would not be immediately televised worldwide so ALL CAN SEE HIM?

Did you actually think this had to do with the shape of the earth? Gosh how do you guys even think? Rationality is lost on you.

The historic 9/11 attacks was practically beamed worldwide at the same time and some piggy backed off each other and you call this ridiculous?

So much for their "free thinking"

dalaman:
The people that wrote the bible do not even know that people lived in China and North America yet you are here trying to tell lies to yourself just to rationalize their ancient mythology and superstitions. You get work oo. So now every body will see the dead Jewish hippe's return via TV? You guys are real jokes. Keep making things up.

the level of idiocy in that post astounds me lol,via TV lol

dalaman:
The people that wrote the bible do not even know that people lived in China and North America yet you are here trying to tell lies to yourself just to rationalize their ancient mythology and superstitions. You get work oo. So now every body will see the dead Jewish hippe's return via TV? You guys are real jokes. Keep making things up.

As in, the post shut me up.
I couldn't comprehend such display of intellectual dishonesty.

dalaman:
The people that wrote the bible do not even know that people lived in China and North America yet you are here trying to tell lies to yourself just to rationalize their ancient mythology and superstitions. You get work oo. So now every body will see the dead Jewish hippe's return via TV? You guys are real jokes. Keep making things up.

You are the one not seeing the bigger picture. The whole world simply meant THE WHOLD WORLD regardless of present or future locations or populations. It was simply documenting a FUTURE EVENT which would fit into the PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE IN THE TIME IT DOES HAPPEN.

you are so myopic to say the least. Can you deny the involvement of television in global viewing of symbolic events? Why do you think everyone is clamouring for an identity on cable television these days? It is all leading to a singular event and in time those who would witness it would make sense of it all.

hopefulLandlord:
the level of idiocy in that post astounds me lol,via TV lol

We are getting there. Every corner on this earth would be lit up by a television or visual device as the case would be in the future then it would be clear to you

CatfishBilly:
As in, the post shut me up.
I couldn't comprehend such display of intellectual dishonesty.

Intellectual dishonesty or actual intellectual genius in truth. You are the one who is being intellectually defunct.

felixomor:
So much for their "free thinking"

They are all so annoyingly dumb. They simply cannot think wide and far. All they see is NOW!

CatfishBilly:
As in, the post shut me up.
I couldn't comprehend such display of intellectual dishonesty.

the Jew also said there are those alive then that won't die till he comes back, even told them to keep running when persecuted cuz he'll come fast and they won't run around too much before he's back

those guys are still alive today running all over Israel to escape persecution of Judaism and Islam, they're theoretically at least over 2027 years old right now, still waiting for that glorious return, running around for millennia

spacetacular:
Intellectual dishonesty or actual intellectual genius in truth. You are the one who is being intellectually defunct.

Whatever, man.