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Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by Nobody: 11:56pm On Jul 14, 2017
spacetacular:
Did those who carried out the terror attacks of 9/11 call a press conference before the ENTIRE WORLD beamed it worldwide FOR FREE AT NO CHARGE TO THEM?
It wasn't streamed live though. More importantly, where in the Bible did you read this.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f):
LightandDarkness:
It wasn't streamed live though. More importantly, where in the Bible did you read this.
It's called common sense and actual critical thinking.

Scripture doesn't have to spell out everything for you does it? Should it also tell you when to go take a piss, how, where and what to use?

So you actually think the 9/11 attacks wasn't beamed live? My God!

I remember and know that on BBC and CNN it was clearly said "This is the live footage as events unfold".

When the 2nd plane hit the tower it was LIVE.

when the first and second towers came crashing down it was LIVE

When the fire raged at the Pentagon after the 3rd Plane Crashed into it, IT WAS LIVE.

say something else.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by JackBizzle(op): 5:41am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
Were your tribes in Nigeria not once ISOLATED tribes? Now do you not have translators for virtually all tribes with your vernacular being central?
Keyword "once".

Also, there are still isolated tribes in the middle belt of Nigeria
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by JackBizzle(op): 5:44am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
if the scriptures were written and referenced the times in which it was written do you think God would ignore the times which would be at His coming?

If the scriptures were written today do you assume today's technology would not be referenced?

You guys hardly do any thinking yet you call yourself free thinkers while you are actually caged thinkers.
@ bold-

Yes. After all, God does not have email nor does he send texts
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by orunto27: 6:03am On Jul 15, 2017
What is Deism?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by Nobody: 6:10am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
It's called common sense and actual critical thinking.

Scripture doesn't have to spell out everything for you does it? Should it also tell you when to go take a piss, how, where and what to use?

So you actually think the 9/11 attacks wasn't beamed live? My God!

I remember and know that on BBC and CNN it was clearly said "This is the live footage as events unfold".

When the 2nd plane hit the tower it was LIVE.

when the first and second towers came crashing down it was LIVE

When the fire raged at the Pentagon after the 3rd Plane Crashed into it, IT WAS LIVE.

say something else.
Where in the Bible was it said, it's a simple question. Is everything in the Bible now open to critical analysis?, are we now free to take our own interpretations.

How would they have known the plane was going to hit the 1st tower and prepare live footage and yet there were people inside. There was recorded footage of the impact on the 1st tower and the pentagon being hit, not live footage, let's be intelligent. There was live footage of the second tower being hit as a result of live coverage of the aftermath of the attack on the first tower. So your statement that the " 9/11 attacks (plural) were broadcasted live" is false. You would have been more accurate to simply state one attack. To suggest there was live footage of every attack means there was foreknowledge of the targets which there clearly wasn't. Use your so called critical thinking.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 7:05am On Jul 15, 2017
LightandDarkness:
Where in the Bible was it said, it's a simple question. Is everything in the Bible now open to critical analysis?, are we now free to take our own interpretations.

How would they have known the plane was going to hit the 1st tower and prepare live footage and yet there were people inside. There was recorded footage of the impact on the 1st tower and the pentagon being hit, not live footage, let's be intelligent. There was live footage of the second tower being hit as a result of live coverage of the aftermath of the attack on the first tower. So your statement that the " 9/11 attacks (plural) were broadcasted live" is false. You would have been more accurate to simply state one attack. To suggest there was live footage of every attack means there was foreknowledge of the targets which there clearly wasn't. Use your so called critical thinking.
My God you guys are pathetically too slow to even be rationalists.

Read my comment again which you responded to without reading for sake of comprehension. Below was my comment which you responded to and show me where I mentioned there was live footage of EVERY ATTACK: take note of the bold texts.

"I remember and know that on BBC and CNN it was clearly said "This is the live footage as events unfold".

When the 2nd plane hit the tower it was LIVE. (I deliberately mentioned 2nd hit and not first so stop being slow)

when the first and second towers came crashing down it was LIVE (the towers came crashing down AFTER being hit and live coverage began from the 2nd hit)

When the fire raged at the Pentagon after the 3rd Plane Crashed into it, IT WAS LIVE. "( Did you not know the coverage on the Pentagon was live immediately after the 3rd plane crashed into its wall)

All the attacks were captured live by people with cell phones and even CCTV captured the moment of impact the 3rd plane had with the Pentagon however LIVE BROADCAST began at the 2nd impact.

Use your head alright and read with comprehension in mind next time.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by Nobody: 7:12am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
My God you guys are pathetically too slow to even be rationalists.

Read my comment again which you responded to without reading for sake of comprehension. Below was my comment which you responded to and show me where I mentioned there was live footage of EVERY ATTACK: take note of the bold texts.

"I remember and know that on BBC and CNN it was clearly said "This is the live footage as events unfold".

When the 2nd plane hit the tower it was LIVE. (I deliberately mentioned 2nd hit and not first so stop being slow)

when the first and second towers came crashing down it was LIVE (the towers came crashing down AFTER being hit and live coverage began from the 2nd hit)

When the fire raged at the Pentagon after the 3rd Plane Crashed into it, IT WAS LIVE. "( Did you not know the coverage on the Pentagon was live immediately after the 3rd plane crashed into its wall)

All the attacks were captured live by people with cell phones and even CCTV captured the moment of impact the 3rd plane had with the Pentagon however LIVE BROADCAST began at the 2nd impact.

Use your head alright and read with comprehension in mind next time.
spacetacular:
Did those who carried out the terror attacks of 9/11 call a press conference before the ENTIRE WORLD beamed it worldwide FOR FREE AT NO CHARGE TO THEM?
Now answer me with where the Bible stated, any of what you said, or simply admit it doesn't say it and move on. You are very willing to be a literalist when it suits you and take a more figurative approach when it doesn't. So if you can't state where in the Bible those things were mentioned either the Bible is flawed and needs spacetacular to clarify what it meant or it meant what it stated and nothing more.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 7:17am On Jul 15, 2017
JackBizzle:
Keyword "once".

Also, there are still isolated tribes in the middle belt of Nigeria
So your country has isolated tribes? Do you know what the word ISOLATION means at all?

How can they be isolated when contact has already been made with them and clothes being given to them by non governmental agencies and missionaries?

How can they be isolated when the government of their state buys food from them and PAYS them for it since they are mainly farmers?

You say they are isolated yet they have generators which they use to charge their phones (I wonder who they are calling on those phones since they are ISOLATED. I also wonder where they get the gasoline needed to power their generators since they are ISOLATED).

How can they be isolated when some of the parents send their children to school?

The boreholes they have THEY CONTRIBUTED MONEY to have it done. (where did the money come from and who did they pay it to and who got the borehole dug since they are ISOLATED to you)

You remain a dumbo.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 7:25am On Jul 15, 2017
LightandDarkness:
Now answer me with where the Bible stated, any of what you said, or simply admit it doesn't say it and move on. You are very willing to be a literalist when it suits you and take a more figurative approach when it doesn't. So if you can't state where in the Bible those things were mentioned either the Bible is flawed and needs spacetacular to clarify what it meant or it meant what it stated and nothing more.
And I asked you if the scriptures must spell everything out for you? Must the scriptures also teach you maths or how to speak English? Should it also contain in its verses when and how and where to take a piss?

Should it contain in its verses when you should take a bath or what kind of car to ride in? Should it contain verses that tell you when and how to paint your homes?

God knows you have the ability to reason as well so will not spoon feed you in everything. When you refuse to ponder on things and see how those relate to His Will then you would remain IGNORANT and continue foolishly wanting to be spoon fed by Him always when you do not need his scriptures to know when to get dressed and how. You do not need his scriptures to know if brushing your teeth is right.

Do you need scriptural references for those as well? Why not ask me for them.

Scripture isn't flawed! YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE!
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 7:27am On Jul 15, 2017
JackBizzle:
@ bold-

Yes. After all, God does not have email nor does he send texts
Another set of words produced from a fellow with one of the lousiest reasoning abilities I have seen in a long time.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by frank317: 7:35am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
It's called common sense and actual critical thinking.

Scripture doesn't have to spell out everything for you does it? Should it also tell you when to go take a piss, how, where and what to use?

So you actually think the 9/11 attacks wasn't beamed live? My God!

I remember and know that on BBC and CNN it was clearly said "This is the live footage as events unfold".

When the 2nd plane hit the tower it was LIVE.

when the first and second towers came crashing down it was LIVE

When the fire raged at the Pentagon after the 3rd Plane Crashed into it, IT WAS LIVE.

say something else.
It's unfortunately that u are shamelessly running ur mouth all over the place and priding yourself of having more sense than Everyone.

The scriptures does not spell out every thing for you but left u and every single Christian out the a whole big puzzle to figure it out any way your minds wants.

Now you are here making ridiculous assumption that Christ could possibly be seen by the whole world via visual technology yet you cannot answer a simple question on weather it is possible for him to come today/tomorrow or not. You know if u answer your theory will fall flat on ur face.

So according to u, Christ will not come except everyone has access to visual technology, this means Jesus will not come within the next 6months.

This is what happens when a foolish person runs around claiming to be wiser than everyone. You have interpreted the so called Almighty Bible like it's a comic book.

And to think that Christ coming is dependent on man's technology? U must be a huge joke. No wonder he has been waiting for man to build visual technology for him for over 2000 years. Why wouldn't he just appear miraculously and make it possibly for everyone one to see him up in the sky from everywhere?

My dear concentrate on accident victims. Bible interpretation is not ur area of specialization. Stop fooling urself here.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 7:35am On Jul 15, 2017
Heading off home now. You guys can keep dropping your incoherent words from your shallow thought processes and I would respond in time. smiley

Perhaps this is an opportunity for me to teach you what critical thinking actually means.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by spacetacular(f): 7:50am On Jul 15, 2017
frank317:
It's unfortunately that u are shamelessly running ur mouth all over the place and priding yourself of having more sense than Everyone.

The scriptures does not spell out every thing for you but left u and every single Christian out the a whole big puzzle to figure it out any way your minds wants.

Now you are here making ridiculous assumption that Christ could possibly be seen by the whole world via visual technology yet you cannot answer a simple question on weather it is possible for him to come today/tomorrow or not. You know if u answer your theory will fall flat on ur face.

So according to u, Christ will not come except everyone has access to visual technology, this means Jesus will not come within the next 6months.

This is what happens when a foolish person runs around claiming to be wiser than everyone. You have interpreted the so called Almighty Bible like it's a comic book.

And to think that Christ coming is dependent on man's technology? U must be a huge joke. No wonder he has been waiting for man to build visual technology for him for over 2000 years. Why wouldn't he just appear miraculously and make it possibly for everyone one to see him up in the sky from everywhere?

My dear concentrate on accident victims. Bible interpretation is not ur area of specialization. Stop fooling urself here.
The one who has been a buffoon has been you lot whose thinking processes shut down and switch to ridicule as a disguise for actual thinking when it comes to scriptures yet you all claim to be free thinkers.

I believe you have a father who may be over 70. The lifestyle and technology he sees and enjoys today was it available in his earlier years?

At his old age has he ignored PRESENT technology? Is he not TAKING ADVANTAGE of it?

Man is God's creation and all that man needed to live and thrive was put in man at creation. So all of the tech we see today are simply an expression of man's already given ability to thrive. God did not give man that ability for no reason you know.

Man is to work for Himself (comfort) and for God (purpose). Technology is for a PURPOSE and yes God would take advantage of it since it was his plan all along when he put this ability in man.

Why would man even want to have global viewing capabilities? Why would they have that desire even in them? Were they doing badly when they were alone?

In Genesis 1:28 God's instruction to man regarding the earth was Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth

Physical fruitfulness, mental fruitfulness and material fruitfulness. All we are seeing is simply in accordance with God's words to him.

Technology is a product of man's MENTAL FRUITFULNESS which is for GOD'S PURPOSE.

Your words are the words of someone who pretends and deceives himself into believing he is a rational being when his rationality is bereft of common sense or cohesion.

Only foolish Children speak the way you do.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by hopefulLandlord: 8:02am On Jul 15, 2017
frank317:
It's unfortunately that u are shamelessly running ur mouth all over the place and priding yourself of having more sense than Everyone.

The scriptures does not spell out every thing for you but left u and every single Christian out the a whole big puzzle to figure it out any way your minds wants.

Now you are here making ridiculous assumption that Christ could possibly be seen by the whole world via visual technology yet you cannot answer a simple question on weather it is possible for him to come today/tomorrow or not. You know if u answer your theory will fall flat on ur face.

So according to u, Christ will not come except everyone has access to visual technology, this means Jesus will not come within the next 6months.

This is what happens when a foolish person runs around claiming to be wiser than everyone. You have interpreted the so called Almighty Bible like it's a comic book.

And to think that Christ coming is dependent on man's technology? U must be a huge joke. No wonder he has been waiting for man to build visual technology for him for over 2000 years. Why wouldn't he just appear miraculously and make it possibly for everyone one to see him up in the sky from everywhere?

My dear concentrate on accident victims. Bible interpretation is not ur area of specialization. Stop fooling urself here.
everyone here knows why answering a simple question became difficult

I was on the receiving end of massive preaching yesterday all because of a simple question

Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by Ranchhoddas: 8:03am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
Heading off home now. You guys can keep dropping your incoherent words from your shallow thought processes and I would respond in time. smiley

Perhaps this is an opportunity for me to teach you what critical thinking actually means.
Why do your posts sound so familiar?

With every comment of yours I read, I get the feeling that you are just a reincarnation of an old poster on this forum. It is my belief also that you know who that poster is.

I put it to you are not who you say you are.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by hopefulLandlord: 8:04am On Jul 15, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
Why do your posts sound so familiar?

With every comment of yours I read, I get the feeling that you are just a reincarnation of an old poster on this forum. It is my belief also that you know who that poster is.

I put it to you are not who you say you are.
ssssshhhhhh!!!!

don't let the garri out of the cup
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by Ranchhoddas: 8:15am On Jul 15, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
ssssshhhhhh!!!!

don't let the garri out of the cup
Ooooooops...

Sorry.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by frank317: 8:27am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
The one who has been a buffoon has been you lot whose thinking processes shut down and switch to ridicule as a disguise for actual thinking when it comes to scriptures yet you all claim to be free thinkers.
Ya right... Everyone can see how free ur mind has ran. U have succeeded in letting it run out of ur dear Bible.

I believe you have a father who may be over 70. The lifestyle and technology he sees and enjoys today was it available in his earlier years?
At his old age has he ignored PRESENT technology? Is he not TAKING ADVANTAGE of it?
So? And who is arguing this with u. We are still waiting for u to answer if u think there is a possibility Christ could come this month or not.

Man is God's creation and all that man needed to live and thrive was put in man at creation. So all of the tech we see today are simply an expression of man's already given ability to thrive. God did not give man that ability for no reason you know.
No one is asking u this... Answer the question

Man is to work for Himself (comfort) and for God (purpose). Technology is for a PURPOSE and yes God would take advantage of it since it was his plan all along when he put this ability in man.
So while man is indirectly working for God. We can say that since God is waiting for man to pave the way for him, Christ cannot come before the end of this year. Should we quote u?

Why would man even want to have global viewing capabilities? Why would they have that desire even in them? Were they doing badly when they were alone?
I just got it wise one! They are building the technology for everyone to see Jesus coming from the sky. So with this,do u still think he can possibly come tomorrow?

In Genesis 1:28 God's instruction to man regarding the earth was Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth

Physical fruitfulness, mental fruitfulness and material fruitfulness. All we are seeing is simply in accordance with God's words to him.
Continue ur irrelevant sermons pastor.

Technology is a product of man's MENTAL FRUITFULNESS which is for GOD'S PURPOSE.
Ya whenever man acheived something good it's God's fault, but when the same technology results in something bad, it's man's fault.
But I will not let u distract me on the main issue. So with technology being God's purpose, do u think Christ can possibly come Tomorrow?

Your words are the words of someone who pretends and deceives himself into believing he is a rational being when his rationality is bereft of common sense or cohesion.

Only foolish Children speak the way you do.
I agree... Just answer the question with a yes or no. Let me help u... You can say yes but...., Or no but....
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by JackBizzle(op): 9:02am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
So your country has isolated tribes? Do you know what the word ISOLATION means at all?

How can they be isolated when contact has already been made with them and clothes being given to them by non governmental agencies and missionaries?

How can they be isolated when the government of their state buys food from them and PAYS them for it since they are mainly farmers?

You say they are isolated yet they have generators which they use to charge their phones (I wonder who they are calling on those phones since they are ISOLATED. I also wonder where they get the gasoline needed to power their generators since they are ISOLATED).

How can they be isolated when some of the parents send their children to school?

The boreholes they have THEY CONTRIBUTED MONEY to have it done. (where did the money come from and who did they pay it to and who got the borehole dug since they are ISOLATED to you)

You remain a dumbo.
What the fawk are you talking about?
Do you even know the tribe that I'm talking about?


There are villages not far from Otukpo that have no roads, no electricity and the children wear no clothes. Their dialect is not even the same with the general idoma people.

You are just talking as if you're a foreigner. Or just ignorant
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by JackBizzle(op): 9:04am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
Another set of words produced from a fello w with one of the lousiest reasoning abilities I have seen in a long time.
Does God send texts or email?

Yes or nah?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 11:01am On Jul 15, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
ssssshhhhhh!!!!

don't let the garri out of the cup
4everGod is back again. Na wah oo.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 11:03am On Jul 15, 2017
frank317:
Ya right... Everyone can see how free ur mind has ran. U have succeeded in letting it run out of ur dear Bible.


So? And who is arguing this with u. We are still waiting for u to answer if u think there is a possibility Christ could come this month or not.


No one is asking u this... Answer the question


So while man is indirectly working for God. We can say that since God is waiting for man to pave the way for him, Christ cannot come before the end of this year. Should we quote u?


I just got it wise one! They are building the technology for everyone to see Jesus coming from the sky. So with this,do u still think he can possibly come tomorrow?


Continue ur irrelevant sermons pastor.


Ya whenever man acheived something good it's God's fault, but when the same technology results in something bad, it's man's fault.
But I will not let u distract me on the main issue. So with technology being God's purpose, do u think Christ can possibly come Tomorrow?



I agree... Just answer the question with a yes or no. Let me help u... You can say yes but...., Or no but....
Stop wasting your time with 4everGod.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by lepasharon(f): 11:23am On Jul 15, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
Why do your posts sound so familiar?

With every comment of yours I read, I get the feeling that you are just a reincarnation of an old poster on this forum. It is my belief also that you know who that poster is.

I put it to you are not who you say you are.
lipsrsealed. !!!

Cc otematum
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by lepasharon(f): 11:29am On Jul 15, 2017
dalaman:
4everGod is back again. Na wah oo.
Lol I don't think it's him
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by Nobody: 11:45am On Jul 15, 2017
spacetacular:
And I asked you if the scriptures must spell everything out for you? Must the scriptures also teach you maths or how to speak English? Should it also contain in its verses when and how and where to take a piss?

Should it contain in its verses when you should take a bath or what kind of car to ride in? Should it contain verses that tell you when and how to paint your homes?

God knows you have the ability to reason as well so will not spoon feed you in everything. When you refuse to ponder on things and see how those relate to His Will then you would remain IGNORANT and continue foolishly wanting to be spoon fed by Him always when you do not need his scriptures to know when to get dressed and how. You do not need his scriptures to know if brushing your teeth is right.

Do you need scriptural references for those as well? Why not ask me for them.

Scripture isn't flawed! YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE!
So the answer is no, okay.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by Nobody: 11:47am On Jul 15, 2017
JackBizzle:
Does God send texts or email?

Yes or nah?
Lol. You wonder why god doesn't send e-mail or texts now, rather than communicating (allegedly) through vague signs, dreams, and voices in your head.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by hopefulLandlord: 11:55am On Jul 15, 2017
LightandDarkness:
Lol. You wonder why god doesn't send e-mail or texts now, rather than communicating (allegedly) through vague signs, dreams, and voices in your head.
he also shows up on burnt toasts and wet walls
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by dalaman: 12:35pm On Jul 15, 2017
lepasharon:
Lol I don't think it's him
Its him. Soon he'll start opening threads about healing and wonders.
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by lepasharon(f): 12:43pm On Jul 15, 2017
OtemAtum:
My own is that this spactacular, felixomor, goodmuyis, availableisme and the rest of them must not advertise forex tradings or ponzi schemes with any of their NL accounts. All of them are scammers, the working partners of 4evergod aka thief Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme, the son of late Onyemaechi Ekwueme, the Olokoro1 of Olokoro, who lived and died in Umudu town.

Their 419 family lineage and the history of the past, present and the future of their children, are they not written in the ACT OF THE 419 in the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH? cool
Hmm...do you think of this space character is who they say they are?
Re: Deism- The Last Refuge For A Dubious Religious Apologist by lepasharon(f): 12:46pm On Jul 15, 2017
dalaman:
Its him. Soon he'll start opening threads about healing and wonders.
Interesting. So 4evergod now chooses to claim to be a half-british female doctor/traumatologist/paramedic in the UK?
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